 I agree. I agree that I don't know is the best answer, but oh I love this, but but I don't like I don't like saying that because I feel like What is your name by the way Tyler Tyler Ty can I call you Ty I go by Tyler I rarely call anyone my own name. That's why I just wanted that one opportunity in my life So you go by Ty. I go by Ty Tyler's fine, too Tyler yeah, you might have to do a quick little chat real quick. All right, so five minutes. I'm an atheist That just means that I don't really have a belief in a God Yeah, I'm looking for good reasons to believe and I thought this would be a good opportunity to come down and talk to people Yeah, see what they believe see why they believe it. Do you happen to have a god belief? I I do not I would describe myself as an atheist Sometimes an anti-theist Yeah, yeah, I like I there's obviously positives and negatives to everything, but I you I typically think that religion Typically does more harm to society than benefit So I I would typically I would sometimes describe myself as an anti-theist rather than an atheist Actively opposed to it. Is there any benefit to Religion but without the theism. Yeah, like sense of community on it is what most people Honestly go like even if they don't admit it to themselves I see like a lot of people go to church just for the sense of community sure that it brings and the support system that they have That's good. And I don't think they you You necessarily you don't necessarily have to have a god belief in order to have a system like that It's just there is no existing structure for people like that for people who don't have a god belief I understand like that's like that. So that's like a positive that religion can have But in terms of negatives, I feel like just I think religion Religious doctrine ultimately teaches people not to question things and I think that that's a That's a harmful thing to society over the long term if there was a religion that wasn't as decisive Was all about Asking questions and about loving your fellow man and stuff like that and you were surrounded by that more so than what we're surrounded right now Would you be more likely religious? Or stay religious probably I wouldn't be religious, but I would respect religion That was the case, but I still that's a clarification. I don't think it's I Honestly, I can't see how it's possible to have a set of beliefs revolving around a god belief That involves questioning your faith because I feel like any amount of questioning ultimately breaks it down for me like that's I I've never seen any logical support for there are some people for example, where's the Sun? You got the Sun right here. It's pretty unarguable that the Sun exists. What about those guys? I mean it exists, but like at that point is is it a supernatural belief? Yes, is it like like the Sun gives us life gives us heat? Makes the flowers grow we eat the flowers blah blah blah blah Like without the Sun we'd all die there for Sun's creator of life. We worship the Sun. That's our God other than that Everyone love each other. I mean yeah, I feel like I feel like that's a I don't think that that's the same thing I can't necessarily think of Where the distinction is It's for me personally. It's that Because we call something something doesn't make it that thing Yeah, it's not necessary to call the Sun a God You already got good names for the Sun. We'll just call it the Sun. Yeah, give me a reason to call this a God Or some of your proofs for it. Yeah, and if it's not satisfying then I I don't see a need to call it that How did you become an atheist? You know I may ask it. That's a long story. I've never really been religious just in my household Like whenever I was a very very very small child We went to church I guess but it's not it was like before I could even remember So yeah, I just never really believed in God and especially in middle school Around like eighth grade is whenever I really started to come into my own identity about that and And think about why I wasn't religious What would convince you that a God did exist say the Christian God if something could convince me Are you open-minded? Yeah, I would say I'm open-minded, but there's just nothing out there right now if there if there was anything that went against Well, okay, I was about to say anything that went against natural law that we currently know but that would just That wouldn't even like if it was just okay doctor. Yeah If something went against natural law that we currently know That would just be something else to incorporate into our new theory So I wouldn't even necessarily consider that proof of God if it if there was literally like Jesus resurrection and he came to earth and performed miracles. Okay. Yes That would convince you that would probably convince me So if a guy did some tricks where he's just like hey see that's that's a snake You don't have to be christen to walk some water. Jesus does that for a little bit bad enough Be like, oh, yeah, it would have to be more rigorous than that There is I don't you've probably heard of this. There was this guy that Put up a put up a bounty basically to show any kind of supernatural ability. James Randy That was probably it. Yeah, put it and then said if anybody can perform supernatural things you get this million dollars or whatever Yeah, nobody's been able to claim it so far So I feel like if someone was able to consistently perform miracles that would have something like that would have Been proven by now In the event that someone did actually prove miracles on a consistent basis. Yeah And told you that Um, they were God Because I'm able to do these things that you can't explain Is that proof that they are in fact a god? It's it's not proof, but it's support And it would it would make me more inclined to believe that But it wouldn't tip the scales to actually believe in Like how would you be able to distinguish like a god versus like a wizard? like Yeah, that's a good point or a time traveler who just knows really cool technology that you can't happen at that point What what's proof for god? I I just don't really like the word proof because I don't really think anything is proof. It's just support Then what's demonstration for a god existing? What would be a direct support for a god and not say for a fancy time like like you said Or is it a wizard or a time traveler? Yeah, I guess how do you make the decision? I guess I guess you can't in that Yeah, I didn't think about that. But yeah, it could be someone that just has supernatural abilities. That isn't a god exactly I think in a world like that where that's a possibility I don't know what would convince me exactly and I think I don't know. It's probably the best answer What do you think? Yeah, I I I agree. I agree that I don't know is the best answer but Oh, I love this but But I don't like I don't like saying that because I feel like just saying just putting my hands up saying I don't know. There's no way to know for sure. I never said that that seems like that seems like I don't know followed by knowledge. Sorry. I wasn't I wasn't trying to prescribe those beliefs to you I'm just saying some people do say that. I understand So I think I don't know is the best place to start anything else you put on top of that is a different path Yeah, but I don't know and there's no way to know it. That seems to be like another. I don't know for me For me, it's I don't know and that's the best place to start learning to you That's the best place to start the journey of I'm going to try to figure you out And if there is a god out there, I don't know how I'm going to do it But I want to start with the premise of I don't know that way It is 420. All right, you got your test coming up My test my exam's at five. So I'm so good. Did you study at all for this? No, don't want to get out of here. I don't study. Tyler I enjoyed the talk with you, man. I enjoyed it. Yeah. Yeah, thank you again. Thank you for your kind words. I appreciate it Like you're here. Yeah to contrast what's going on over there You are you a chemical engineer? A chemistry student not an engineer. I'm biochemist myself. Really? Yes. Um, you already know my contact deeds, but Um, I'm a graduate. Study chemistry. It's a good field to be in. I've been a job there. What do you think? Do you have enough conclusive evidence to get you to 98% That god exists? And you don't have to say I don't know right now But like, do you think your position is justified? No