 Welcome to Toffy TV, joined by Andy. We're just going to have a little chat about Wilfred Tahrar. Obviously the saga is still ongoing. Everton is obviously heavily interested in bringing them to Gwreson Park, Crystal Palace, so far not so keen on letting them go or playing their cards close to the chest and trying to get more money. So we're just going to have a little chat with Andy about what would Wilfred Tahrar bring to this event and why he thinks Marko Silver wants Zahar so much. So obviously we know Zahar is an approving Premier League player 27 later this year. Why do you think Marko Silver's and Marcel Brands are going all out for them, it seems? Obviously with the start of the summer the room was looking for a left footed right wing because I think eventually Marko Silver probably sees as playing the 4-3-3 and usually one inverted wing is left footed, a right footer on a left wing, left footer on a right wing. But I think with Zahar the opportunity presented itself on Arsenal and for Pepe and they probably realised that they do like the player, they always like the player. And the opportunity arose where I think we had a bit of leverage in the DLM because we only want a team bidding and with the possibility of Arsenal being involved to push the price up to sort of leverage their palace out to come. Obviously palaces are still being difficult because Zahar could be the difference between them being relegated or not so it's a big risk if they sell them and I think they probably want the right amount of money so they can go out and buy a quality replacement they are trying to get to Zahar from under Watford's noses for example. So that's the, but why Marko Silver wants them? It's partly because he's stepping into the team day one, improve the side because he's played in the Premiership before and also he adds something different to the team that we currently don't have. He adds to the creativity, the fact that he can beat a man, break the lines of teams and he also plays in a real hard run system. Now I know he's not a super defensive, he's really hard on the team, he's way hard, way creates good. So he'd fit in to have it inside quite well in that sense. He gave us, I suppose he gave us something that we haven't got. You know, we're obviously last season and particularly the last 10 games of the season when we were at our best. We were explosive on the break, really obviously Bernard was up to speed then and in the Lucidim we're flying. Sheamus had a big good finish to the season and obviously the Charleson when he went over off the right hand side. The Charleson had a good season, had a little blip in the middle but he was good anyway. But when he was on the right hand side getting into those areas and then with Dominic Calvert-Luban we were a real threat on the counter attack with me. But Wilfred T'Harr is different again, a different profile I would suggest and certainly the Charleson has got the natural ability to score goals and is quite strong runs with the ball but I don't think he doesn't do what T'Harr doesn't say he's taking it off. No, it's not as good as the dribble. He's quick, he's strong, but in terms of skill going past the man Charleson's not quite there yet, it's not going to get there. The explosive and the sum of T'Harr can go past three or four men in a time. That's what we sort of lack at times. Bernard, Henry Charleson, both decent to good driblers but that top level ability to dribble to break the lines to beat a couple of men which then stretches the defence to create causes panic. That's what's hard to bring to the side. And he's quicker. It's top level speed. You're watching on the counter attack, you can carry the ball so quickly. The advantage he creates as well having him on the ball. You watched me in the Liverpool last year as you said that we spoke before on the field. Just frightened on the break. And if we're going to play on the break against bigger teams and away from home, perfect person for him. I mean, it surprised me. Again, you just mentioned it before and again it's all about options presenting themselves. You know, everything like you said before quite clearly but looking at a number of left-footed right-wings, I think they added down to a good short list of who they wanted and obviously made sensitive enquiries about what the demands were. And then this presents itself and you know, obviously sometimes a proven Premier League player can present himself. I've seen a lot of people on social media saying and suggesting along with journalists that he could be a real game changer for Everton this side of sign. I mean, he's had a good age. He obviously had the Manchester United experience which went there at 20 and it probably wasn't the right time for him to be there. I think he only started two games for this. The things that Simon did and then Moe's became manager. That can be a problem now because if you don't sign a player as a manager, you haven't got that affinity to want to play them. And maybe Moe's could be quite a safety face at times and probably sat out being a young player. He didn't want to take that risk because obviously a lot of pressure United would show if somebody got to sign. But yeah, that's it. And from then to impact to Palace, if you look just your raw statistics and ways played, year on year, he's got better continually. Every year improves his goals, improves his, all round game gets better. And at Palace, people can judge him how he plays at Palace, but think about it when he's at Everton, he's got a child, so I'm on side, Keam, Sigurdson, other quality players. You won't be able to mark him off the game with two players trying to kick him off the game because then you're going to leave one of the other players open. And that's what it creates. He will occupy defence and be able to stretch teams, but also he will then be able to express himself more because he won't have as many people marking him as well. You can understand Chris, the Palace's point of view. He's a fantastic player for this. He could be the difference between struggling maybe more. 10 goals and five assists he's taken on. He also won them five penalties. Willa Voivic, basically, works his goals, come off those penalties. So is contributions that side nearly 20 goals on all? That's big to take it out. They can't probably sign a 20-goal wing or a 20-goal striker, so that's the difference. And that's why they're driving such a hard bargain? I've got no problem with that. When you're the buying club you want it. You should just let us have them, but we've been on the other end of it. It's not nice. Well, let's just, before we finish, let's have a look at some of the stats. So, we've got some of the stats up here. Yeah, I've got Ramza, I've got a friend of mine off Twitter. It's RamS. He does some great work like this. Great visual, data visuals. He wants to check them out. Basically, this is a hard data. This is a lot of it, what we call advanced data, because obviously people understand goals and chances of creating statistics. But this is a lot of stuff like extra shot selection, non-penalty goals, which is important. When you're golden, your ratio of your goals from non-penalty is obviously, you don't rely on non-penalty, that Nicholas Pepe's side for Arsenal scored 22 goals last season, but eight of them were from penalties, so it can make quite a bit of a difference. You don't get the same amount of chances of penalties, you don't have the same effect as a player. So, you look at, obviously defensive metrics, but he's a winger, not really even looking to that. Passer-wise, it's progressive passes. Progressive passes for wingers is because the space is shortened and he can make them passers. They generally don't have high numbers, so that's not such a worry. He is a bit below average in terms of the premiership numbers, but the way he plays, it's not such a big issue because he carries the ball, so he's not looking to flip balls through constantly and try and find gaps in the team. He's looking to take it on himself and be that one. Running top 10% in the league in terms of making progressive runs, whether that's from his own half into another half, or making progressive runs for them or making three metres into a team's penalty. So, as you can see, even just with the basic statistics, 10 goals, 5 assists, 52 chances created open play. As I said on Twitter, that would be 12 more than both Bernard and Sigurd Samargin to open play last season. So, we really would add something to our team creatively in terms of being able to break the lines. Teams would naturally have to cover him because he's so good on the ball. It creates opportunities for other players, so I think we'd be getting a really good player. If you look at, in terms of in depth, the top 10% for a winger. Just for everyone. If you look at the lines, they're basically the average across the Premier League. So, the percentile rank essentially is where he ranks. So, in the top 10%, you're obviously one of the best, but if you look at his dribbles, he's in the top 1% of dribbles in the league. That's incredible. It is incredible, yes. So, that's the type of player we're getting. Obviously, some numbers are a bit below. Shot selection isn't great because a lot of the time, he's looking to cut in off right winger to expect lots of shots. And everything, he's probably going to get better opportunities because he's got more space to set. A lot of the time, faced with two attackers, it's two defenders, so it'll make it easier to have a bit more chances to shoot. As they pass on, I'm not too worried about. Passes into the penalty area. It's excellent in terms of the number of passes he's getting into the penalty area. So, that's what we need, someone who can break those lines. When you're facing your family, you can take three to two, three players up the game as they call pack, and nowadays it's a lot to do stats. So, you pack three players, you have problems in the box, they lose their shape and that's a good chance for us. The interest in the success of through balls as well, which is above average, because from a wide play, being able to thread balls through as well as take people on. I think there's like a statement about Sarah that he's just a dribbler. He's actually quite a talented footballer. He does create a lot of chances, maybe, and he's because he does obviously so good at dribbling. He can remove players from the game and create chances that way, but he is a good pass for the ball. I just want in terms of his main trick, his step over, isn't it? He's so good at it, so why not? Why does he need an array of tricks if he's got one that's very successful? You know, one that's very successful, but just those stats there give you the better indication as well of just how good a footballer he is, really. He is a very good footballer, yeah. I know people, some of you might have seen some of the big data websites saying he's not a top six player. Disa is only one half of the pitch. You can see the eye test. Disa doesn't measure how explosive he can be as well on the ball. Now, how much defenders fear him. He doesn't suggest that two players are marking all times. Now, basically, he is mostly apart maybe from Andrew Stans and their whole attack. And now, for example, as well, Patrick Van Aanholt really benefits for him, because them two players include the fullback on the wing that covers the heart. He's always in round the back and that's his goal. So, it will help you look at Dean as well. Yeah, I think... Sometimes when those metrics are thrown out, he's not a top six player, you have to remember where Chris the Palace has been as well in terms of the league. We had a relevant look at Dean. People were like, he's not as good as the fullbacks at the top of the league. They were pools being put. You've got better sense of role. He's crossing to Lerente and Yncholeth and he's growing everywhere. He's looking at 15 or 16. Stats can be fairly effective. That's why I don't like assists. I've always said this. Assist are only predicated on how good the finishes are. So, you've got the best finishes in the league. You can have loads of assists. But you could be the world's best creator and if you've got Llewman, he has fluff and chances up front. You're not going to get many assists. So, it's a lot of context. But there's no doubt. At any point in his context, he's a fairly good player. I know he does 10-27 and people say it doesn't fit it, but he's 10-27 in November. He's got 4 full seasons. He's still got 33-31. I still got a play. I'll have to see whether or not Crystal Palace are interested in letting them go. If they're not, you don't understand why when you look at the stats there. Let us know what you think in the comments section below about Wilfred Zahar. Is he the one you want to do everything you need and can he be the difference maker at the top end of the pitch for everything? Can he take everything from outside the top six into the top six? Is he that good? Let us know in the comments section below. Big thanks to Andy for joining that. Big thanks to our Rames for his stats there as well. 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