 This is Tazeem from Don Bosco Institute of Technology and since we are affiliated to the Mumbai University we follow a similar pattern but to a great extent we also use the Moodle for posting our cost material, for even posting our question bank, we even hold online tests for the students. So like it's a bit different like we do follow the university so that nobody else points out to us that we are somewhere not following the university pattern but along with it. Management has made it mandatory for all the faculty members to conduct at least one test on Moodle. So like we have to compulsorily conduct a test on Moodle, we have to post our cost materials, we even keep like offline activities like students post their questions we answer to them or we even keep it you know after the hours of the college period during a test. Because this Moodle must be a relatively recent development. Sir we are using since 3 years. Do you remember how it was 3 years ago basically from the perspective of do you feel that use of Moodle has enhanced the effectiveness of your teaching and students learning? No sir. No. Not that. It is not. Yes sir. So in what way do you find it is useful? In your introductory lecture in the first day that day you said one title that changing the mindset of student that is very difficult to means it's not in faculties and to change the mindset of student actually they do not take it seriously. If let's say if you are conducting quiz on the Moodle let's say there are 30 questions they will come they will just if multiple choice questions are there they will just click on any of the options and they will submit it and submit the answers. But they won't take it seriously that is the biggest question. Yes but does it help at least in consolidating the learning material and making it available at one place? Yes definitely. Sir the reason for not taking it seriously is because we are as of now affiliated to the Mumbai University. So the students mindset is that they just have to give their exam and clear it out. So if we in the future we plan to become autonomous it could cause a lot of help to them. So for example if for the in semester quizzes and tests the weightage was 80 percent and only 20 marks for the final written exam then you think the attitude will change completely. Obviously definitely it would change. But considering the term work. So this is good thing what is the batch size you have and what is the number of students. It's per batch 25 students for practical. For lab. Yes. Okay. And class it is 60 to 65. 60 to 65 and how many students are there per year? Around 20 or 250. 250. Yes. So you have again 4 batches. Yes sir. So how many 4 teachers are involved in teaching this. Yes. And lab also the same 4 teachers. Yes. The same pattern that we saw there. One teacher taking 3 lab batches and the mundane things like blackboard and chalk is. So we use blackboards, we use whiteboards in the labs then we have OHPs in every classroom and LCD we have for departments. So like the ones who want to begin. So here is the question. How many teachers use OHP routinely and how many teachers use blackboard routinely. So question of. Sir it's actually depends per subject wise. Like if there is a programming subject it's there would be no sense in using transparencies or slides. I see this is a third time that observation is being made that if I have a theory subject I can use slides. It's a programming course then there is no sense in using slides. We have been teaching programming course using slides for 30 years. So we would like to understand what is the difficulty and we would like to share with you how we think it can be used. Yes. Hello everybody. I am Mithi Zadu from R.A.P. College. I have been teaching CP one from last 2 to 3 years. What sir asked is like we also in our department we have 2 to 3 OHPs as well as we have an LCT projector but when I insisted on carrying an OHP what I also feedback is the students are too small or they are like they have just come from the 12th to the engineering course. So teaching them on OHPs is too fast for them or it is too difficult for them to grasp. So it's better that you write on a blackboard so that they can jot it down and it will be effective for them to learn because they have been doing it since they were in the school and in the colleges. So this was what the other teachers or my seniors have suggested me because. Since you have the mic can you tell us how many students are there in R.A.P. First year we have an intake of 420 students and we have 6 divisions. 6 divisions. Yeah for the first year. So how about 70 students per. Yeah. 7 students. How many lab batches you have. One class like one we have 6 divisions so one division is when divided into 3 batches of 25 to 30 students you can say. Which are mixed of all the branches. And how many teachers they have we have 6 teachers teaching. No we are at present we have 3 teachers who are taking yeah one teacher 2 classes. 2 classes. 2 divisions. And labs. Same we are self taking. God bless you. You have so much load. I just I just I just wanted to one point to that. I am Professor Vidhate from same college Rambhavadik Institute of Technology belongs to Deva Patil group. You know with that even TAs are available at our place. We have a busy course in computers as well as electronics. So TAs are available to assist in laboratories, rest theoretical part and plus some part of practicals these people used to handle. Since we are teaching the college we sorry in the class we know we have what we have covered. So we are with them with the TAs to assist them. No problem there. But TAs are required because the load is more accurate. Yeah yeah the TAs are there along with the TAs. So you have TAs there. But the examination pattern is same exactly as a university. Same same. We have 4 hours of teaching lectures and 2 hours of practicals for every batch. 4 hours per week. Yeah. But I was told CP1 sometimes only 2 hours per week or something like that. No. Which API it is a different way it is autonomous we are in the Bombay industry. So 4 hours or minimum like 3 to 4 hours is given per week and 2 hours of practical every batch. 2 hours. We have a completely dedicated lab. I have not understood this because 2 other people also said that 4 hours per week is scheduled and which have mostly sometimes it happens 4 hours sometimes it happens 3 hours. But 40 to 50 hours are conducted. Yeah my question is very similar this is something which my priority mindset can't accept. If there are going to be 42 hours there are going to be exactly 42 hours there can't be 41. It is 42 only but it doesn't matter. So you don't do the simple time tabling jugglery that for example in a semester let's say there are too many Thursdays and holidays and what we do is we run on some Friday a Thursday time tabling. So we equally distribute all weekdays ensuring that not more than one weekday is already in a semester. I am just suggesting that to ensure that you have an equal spread. However, do you as teachers actually count the number of hours exactly that you have and at the beginning do you have a plan as to what you are going to teach in the 32nd lecture. Yeah. Before the semester begins. That is because of the university pattern which prescribes that you should have so many hours. Yeah. Before the semester begins we have to submit our total syllabus lesson plan what we call. We have to submit it to our HOD's like what are we going to cover in what lecture. We should have similar observation about students as he mentioned that students do not necessarily take these lab assignments and all very seriously or quizzes. No I think it is depends upon the faculty like how serious you are with the students about doing the assignments. But one thing to tell us like the Bombay university syllabus we are in the first year is covering C as well as C++. It is too taxing for the students. So I am covering 25 practicals when already the batch has started late because since the admission takes place late the students start very late in August. So it becomes very difficult for the students like at the end we are like it is a pity for the students to cover 25 practicals at the end. So like we have to help the students a lot. I would like to one point to this sir. In Mumbai university for first semester this is a very common problem. Yeah. The college used to start in month of August itself. And they hardly get you know some 10 weeks to complete the things. So for first semester this is a very common problem. As much as 40% of that. Around yeah. Around. This one starts late one month later 15 or 20 days late. So many number of extra week is given at the end for the first semester. That means the total number of weeks in the semester is 40 only. Actually it may not be 40 but it may not be as bad as that. The truth will be somewhere in between. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A few colleges by running you know these extra lectures on Saturdays could be covered. Could be covered sir. Even we do that sir actually. We do it on every Saturday. Okay. And you also. We have a dedicated lab completely for the FE practicals. What is the. We have a dual boot. Dual boot you know. Yeah. So you would be comfortable running this with Linux environment. Yeah. Yeah we run with Linux only sir. Linux. We have a CC Linux that environment. Yeah. Whatever Linux you have this is not a problem. No. The other question I had is that like so you already mentioned that mostly you tend to use blackboard. Yeah. In the classroom. In the classroom. Okay. Fine. Just I want to add one more submission to this sir. As far as the setups are concerned. We have web servers and all you know hosting and will be done by our people only their local place. And as far as the model and everything those motors are concerned. It can be deployed there itself and students can use it after working hours also. Correct. So. That's the purpose. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. Because that much scalability we have in our environment what we maintain. Even if I put my slides there even if I'm using blackboard it is useful to prepare slides because slides become a recorded version which people can see even later. Thank you so much. Thanks a lot sir. Thanks a lot.