 How did you first get into art, or I don't even know if you call it art, maybe expression is the better word? You know, I was about five or six, and there wasn't much to do on the farm, so I just started drawing, and just kept drawing. And then when I realized that there was caves up in my parents' farm full of Aboriginal art, well more storytelling actually, storytelling of the generations and all that, I started coming down from the mountains and writing what I saw and drawing and sort of like adding stuff to what I'd seen previously. So yeah, I think like six or seven, I don't know, I remember my auntie staying at my house for a couple of weeks, and she said, it's three o'clock in the morning. What are you doing? I'm like, I have to draw. I have to draw. And she's like, okay, it's always been a part of me, always. Did you have any influences from that early age, like anything you were trying to emulate? No, because we didn't have internet, we didn't have any art books. My mum, she did a little bit, but you know, it's probably like six or seven drawings. So I saw that, and I thought that was amazing. Little bit of Cubism, but yeah, I had no idea. Did you ever have to become like an art historian at some point where you're doing research or maybe not research, but at least like drawing inspiration from different forms of art or just kind of exploring the full art world and then maybe thinking like, oh, okay, this is interesting. Because everything at some point is just inspiration, right? We've all been inspired, especially when you think about music and stuff like that. And so did you at some point become like a historian or just? Because of my parents' farm with the Aboriginal art, I mean, that was my first taste of, I didn't even call it art back then, it was storytelling. So I'm very inspired by ancient art. So African, Aboriginal, Egyptian, you know, people always say, you know, who's your favorite artist? And I actually don't have one. I'm more about, you know, ancient art. That's where, I mean, that's where all art is from. That's where it started, just to make sense, yeah. Absolutely. That's where I draw from because I never want to draw from anything else. That's in vogue or that's, you know, that's been around for a few years because I don't want a blueprint of someone else's art. So I'd rather draw from the source than from someone else. So, you know, yeah. So ancient art is what I studied and what I grew up with as well.