 It's May 8th at 6.15 or so and we've posted the agenda in three places and on the website and emailed interested parties so we can move forward with this meeting and we have prior meeting minutes from the April 10th select board meeting and I found one correction when we were talking about adopting a lower speed limit for Bethel from Bethel Mountain from Middle Hollow Road to the Bethel Town Line. We didn't adopt it then we were just progressing to warn and start the process towards adopting it so I'd make that one modification and I didn't see any other corrections. I didn't either. Alright so I've moved to approve those minutes. Second. All in favor. Alright. Okay and then we have the minutes from the April 24th meeting where I was not present so I'll let you guys say whether you're not here to approve those. I have a wait these minutes over they are accurate and if Frank agrees with me. They second it. All in favor. Alright. I. I wasn't there. Alright we had on the agenda the guest Bruce Marshall and Janine where are they online or not in the room so I guess we'll table that for now and move on for a application for use of the town park and this is for the recreational cycling event the Vermont Grand Fondo and this would be on 624 and from 10 to 6 and riders start in Bristol and ride through Rochester as part of a larger group. Going through this before I don't see any problem with. I'm losing the town the park. This is a park application yeah. You got it. Actually no this is for use of the Lyons Club Park they're not going to use the main park so I. That's for the Lyons Club. Seconded. All in favor. I. I have requested that John put a couple loads of crusher on that. In that parking lot down there at the base because it's getting pretty longed it up. Alright. So he'll get to it when he can I guess I'll remind him again to do it before this date would be good I think. Alright so the next item on the agenda is adopting so we're is this still ready to adopt the amended ordinance now we've warned it enough this is the correction I was making to the minutes on the 10th and so this is a notice of amendment of speed limit on Bethel Mountain Road ordinance. So on May 10th the select board of the town of Rochester Vermont adopted or started the adoption process to amendments to the existing ordinance affecting the speed limit on a portion of Bethel Mountain Road pursuant to 24 VSA sections 1971 through 76 this notice is published pursuant to 24 VSA 1972 to inform the public of these amendments and the citizen's right to petition for a vote to disapprove of these amendments which we did not receive did we no so people seem to so the full text of the ordinance may be examined at the Rochester town office at 67 school street and during regular business hours so this is this is a notice for the paper that's going to go into the paper and actually it says May 10th yeah I'll change it to May 8th okay yeah so I don't think this is anything that we need to move to approve we're just going to sign it so it's a proper thing to go in the paper well can I ask you a question who is this Robert yeah how are you doing good good what's your question the question is what's the actual status with the V trans and the state with regards to the Bethel Mountain Road speed limit like we you guys just put forth that's um it's there that's a town determined speed limit so the V trans is there so their status is it's not their road well that's what I was trying to put forth to Frank Severe and you guys and Mr Bump that's exactly what uh Teresa and Bethel experienced all of a sudden it's not their jurisdiction do you know I have to I have to just share this with everyone there are people that ride bicycles that exceed the 50 mile an hour speed limit on Bethel Mountain Road so you might want to think about that but I did I shared this in the last meeting regarding changing reducing speed limits in the state of Vermont is a big task yes that's the process that we're we're in step two where I'm step two of that now that the notice is going into the paper so we're we're aware of the the process and and doing it properly yeah so with regards to Frank's concern about it is there any are there any minutes that he can share that with conversations regarding uh V Trans Mr Bump and the state and the town regarding what's actually going to happen because I don't think the speed limit will be reduced by law in the conversations we've had with Chris Bump there I've had with Chris Bump is we have to go through the process we did a traffic study on a year ago and we go through the Regional Planning Commission on the process of lowering it which is just basically we do the traffic study they accept the traffic study as being done and putting changing the speed limit on a road does not guarantee that people are going to drive that speed limit it just guarantees that that is the limit posted so that if there's law enforcement and somebody's going 60 miles an hour in a 40 they'll get a ticket this was done to help with possibly alleviating some of the truck traffic that goes there and that's the reason why we're doing this our car is going to drive 40 miles an hour probably not but that's not something that we can control every driver has the right to drive whatever speed they want to go they're going to do it there is a limit on what the law says they can do we control the speed limit there but there are ways that we have to go about getting it changed it used to be 40 miles an hour years ago and they upped it to 50 because some somebody complained that they wanted to commute to Randolph and they wanted to drive 50 and so they allowed it to happen in the past but we're doing it so that to try to help alleviate some of the truck traffic that goes over that mountain and that's why we're doing it well cars drive it i doubt it you know that was something we talked about and chris bump and i talked about that too so you know we're we're just doing it so hopefully the gps people will put it in there in their information where it may deed your trucks from going over there that's really why we're doing it well frank i totally respect what you just shared because uh uh all my neighbors along the Bethel mountain road uh uh the mackin tires all the they're you know it's it's the intention is great but i don't understand how uh dun mentioned that the uh reduction of speed limit has been from what i understood or gleaned is that the state has nothing to do with it is that my is that correct or not on the class two road we have jurisdiction over it but there's a process we have to follow in order to do what we're doing we have to justify it for one in the in the real justification is our neighbor in Bethel they have a full 40 posted speed limit and it's a continual road so we feel that the 40 is a limit there and all the powers that be agreed with us so that's why we're looking at it that way well you know that's a very logical conversation and by the way i don't want to hold up the rest of the meeting dune might have to get home to dinner but um it's just it's a discussion frank the uh my stomach grumbling can you hear that from on the aisle minus i don't think it's proper for a select board member to sit back and laugh about uh serious concern about a town and um i'm going to just say i'm just going to say good evening they say that to you you don't quote so good night thank you good okay um where was i um we have an application for second class liquor license for sandy's seasons books in bakery llc so i'd move to prove that now second all in favor right okay this is um and we have a bunch of applications for liquor licenses tonight number seven is the same for the village grocery and liquor incorporated which i believe is the new owners of the max market so that's good news to everybody that that was a pretty quick transition from a closing store to an opening store so i'd gladly move to approve that i'm glad we second it all in favor yeah and i think they're gonna i'm trying to turn that around um pretty quick yeah pretty shortly right yeah great okay and we also have approval for a second class this is a tobacco license for the village grocery and liquor all in favor all right okay and number number nine we have another application for the use of the park and this is for a library program for children about climate change appropriate to do it outside and maya newer is doing that and that would be on the 20th of this month main from nine to 11 so i'd move to approve that second all in favor all right agenda but the state has extended um licensing for liquor licenses right now that are trying to process everything through because of the they're doing it all on portal now oh yeah so i added these two because they came in today they came in today all right so the um this is an application for outside consumption permit for the rochester cafe which i would move to approve my second all in favor all right yeah and also from the same entity uh first class restaurant license from the cafe and i would move to approve that second all in favor all right so is that new that they have a restaurant license i know we've done a lot of liquor licenses in the past so now they're serving uh serving inside at the cafe is that right that's a first that's not that's a restaurant one yeah that's a restaurant yeah i just don't know about there are like what their hours are on that one okay probably should check all right that's new excuse me please um what was the exact wording it said restaurant license but wasn't there another word with that or something and then held our dining this is um basically just a first class um restaurant license okay so first class restaurant so it was an outside consumption permit and a first class restaurant a license for both for the cafe yeah because they'll serve okay wine they'll be able to serve their wine plus it's a health license for the serving food yes okay and so there's three of them then nope just two just yeah the restaurant license is that that health license yeah okay thank you yep sorry i didn't quite hear thank you no problem no problem the um um Tony from the library have you got something to read for us something to read we have a trustees meeting tomorrow at 5 30 at the library and just a sort of reminder that coming up in the next couple of weeks the great decisions program will will start that's been on the paper several times all right yeah thank you yeah um frank you got anything you want to share from the highway not too much so the street sweeper zooming around town today yep we had this had the street sweeper when he's done a bunch quite a few roads he's graded and i noticed already which is good we're basically looking forward he's kind of holding out for the grant application for class two on the beffa mountain road which we're hoping we get that so they could complete that work up there and that's about it he's back on the four-day weeks um 10-hour days the crew uh and that's about it and we have it yes thank you for reminding me that i had it written down here too um yeah there is a meeting on the bridge on the 11th i've asked john to sit in with that we meet with the the contractor and the the west cell bridge yeah this is for the west of rich yeah thank you um yeah we'll meet with the contractor and the uh jason keener the the designer and also with the brian austin the government and they have chosen somebody to be there at all times we have put out feelers for doing the compaction testing as the town would take that on as our side of the project uh to save a little money off the original bid but we haven't really got the details on all that yet so when we do we'll bring that out but the details are not there yet so we'll wait on that we're trying to save a little money and then julie and i'll be sitting down sometime after probably the middle maybe a couple weeks when she's freeze up a little bit and i'm not quite so busy uh to look for some phones to help alleviate some of the costs there for us if we can find them that'd be great yeah see um terry's not here on the utilities but um jeff i see her online as the energy coordinator if you got any anything for us tonight uh yes good evening um in two weeks the energy committee is going to be coming back to the board um to request a location and a date um actually we're going to propose a date but we will check with the uh the town um to see what is open what dates are open but we'll be looking for a location for an electric vehicle demonstration day either june or july and we will want to have a celebration of the charging facility in town as well yep they're making progress on that they've poured the pad the pedestal for it and have some piping the conduit ready and talking with the gmp today they think they're going to be ready around labor day um so we'd like a little bit of time after that and you know ideally the park would be most visible location we could probably also do something that the old ball field too but i'll look at conflicts and dates and we'll come back with specific request on that um with the library i think we really need to push back um to with historical preservation so that we can do the repair job properly i know i burdened you all with a very long email um depending my frustrations with that issue but getting a working weather-resistant barrier around the building is the only way to take care of it and then the other thing that i bring up to the board is that the energy committee is going to collaborate or is collaborating with randolph and with bevel on what's called window dressers window dressers are it's a non-profit out of main that helps communities offer low income and people with no incomes municipalities and businesses with inexpensive interior storm inserts that will add two more layers of the wind protection and the small amount of insulation and i will make sure that we measure the town buildings and give you the option as to going ahead and doing that with the town facilities that could benefit from it that's that's what's uh perk and now because those window insert sets we're going to be looking at it for town buildings but that's something that's just open to the general public to i presume yes yes we are going to try to recruit people and through the five towns of the root 100 valley i'm here and we will be talking to all of the um municipalities and also working through the food shelf to get to folks that have needs there with low income installations they can be done for free provided that someone either the recipient or someone for the recipient helps in the volunteer side of things with the actual build and the actual build is going to be in duffel they've got the best facility for it so are these open to bull at all or are they just uh something you put in in the winter that seals your window shut there there's something you insert from the inside in the winter and then you just pull them back out they're friction fit with a gasket material and you pull them out when it's ready to open letters plexiglass or something no it's a pine frame it can be painted white and it's uh there's a oh i'm blanking on the plastic type but it's the plastic type that you see meat packages wrapped in or vegetables in so that you can really see very clearly through it it's not a six mil cloudy kind of plastic thing okay so plastic yeah and it wraps the frame so that you wind up with two layers okay um interesting well thank you okay thank you um i see pristan's not here do we have any grant update info from her not tonight um just one thing on the energy the ev chargers are down there uh they've installed two uh separate uh ev chargers they're both level three which is the rapid charge and that's what they're putting in they were originally going to put a level two and in a level three but it's more expensive to put the level two in than it is to put the level three in so so they just put two level threes down there and they're hoping that either this week or next week they'll be operational so they're they're moving on with that they finally got everything together and talking with the guy today he was figured they'd be set they're hoping to have it done this week but you know depend on when the power company can energize yet get all the inspections done in the testing and so they'll there's still a little work to do but it'll be within a couple weeks you get on the map yep and it's good i mean level the dc fast chargers the level three chargers are really more appropriate for that location um than than level two chargers level two chargers uh what we would see it would be seen in the electric vehicle that can't make its distance by range part during the day charging while they pride a less efficient vehicle to boston for their meeting um you know so if anything was going to change the change having more fast chargers rather than medium chargers is better for that place jeff can i ask a question do you know if these chargers charge all electric vehicles including teslas uh no no um i suspect that they are going to have a ccs charging and the teslas have adapters that can be utilized the adapters are are rapidly becoming a solution for okay what kind of charging type you have but this is a gmp project not a not specifically a rochester project so they're making that kind of determination as to what what plug it up with them um excuse me could i ask you a question jeff um this year planning to have this demonstration coming up uh demonstration day in june or july for the electric vehicle charging station you said but you talked about having the demo demonstration maybe on the park but where exactly is the state it's charging station um that's is that down on the lions club park or where is that going to be the park and ride at the park and ride across from the lions club park would be able to say it across from the fire station okay across from the fire station okay yeah thank you sorry to interrupt no problem all right thank you um we have some um folks in rob you came in to give us a little update on your research what what have you got for us so uh i want i guess what we can have two weeks ago i went to my first meeting of the grandville first responders board uh rochester and hancock recently had board members added to that and i'm the rochester guy and suddenly came out of that which i think is pretty interesting and uh this will be the first public announcement of the project although it's just the beginning of the project um dan sergeant who's a who's a captain of both the grandville fire department and the grandville first responders was at the meeting together with matthew perishes the administrator of worva the white river valley ambiles people uh charles piso's a training officer there and a theodore smith ted smith uh who's a captain at the grandville fire department so anyway most of the discussion uh was about the um a plan to establish a working transport ambulance on this side of the mountain that would work in coordination with uh worva even to and including meeting them halfway well whatever means people could be transported from this side of the valley overdue to the hospital uh in randall fastest uh as most people know there used to be a service like this here in the past uh his feeling was that right now the grandville first responders have most of the hardware that you would put in an ambulance uh they have a number of drivers who could drive the ambulance and they're thinking to get a new truck and they're thinking that instead of getting a similar sort of crash truck like they have now they would get a an ambulance capable of transport uh and then fill up whatever the missing holes in the equipment were but that's and he thinks that's not a big deal that the basically the hardware you and the ambulance used ambulance uh the big deal is the people the personnel volunteers who would who would staff this um and he thinks and the worva guys thought this was probably a two-year process to get to the point where such a service would be in place um the the costs that would be involved they don't know yet because they really don't have a budget uh the one thing that was mentioned was a concern over bylaws that are either uh rochester fire department bylaws or town bylaws i'm not sure which but the restrict uh firemen working in two different towns and there's a lot of pretty reasonable reasons to restrict that you know people show up from a fire and they're from you know what what who do you take orders from what's your job so there's reasons that i understand for the fire department thing his point is that the grandville first responders even though they're part of the grandville fire department they're separate financially separate and separate administratively as much as you can be in a tiny you know outfit like that so he would hope that uh in order to help with this with a problem of personnel that this bylaw could be reexamined and maybe you could break loose some people from uh because it's a small valley from from our town to to work over with those guys too the assumption is that they would house the ambulance there in grandville um training is a big deal um and of course the number of bodies but actually the number of people I have there is volunteers going up i think up to 20 20 now which is really good so this is not this is the beginning of something and and there's a lot of you could argue in many ways whether or not it's really worth whatever it's going to be to have an ambulance on this side of the valley it's a volunteer service just like a fire department so they don't you know they're not there all the time although depending on the number of people you had you could staff it you know you could staff it up um but there there are costs associated with there would be there would be costs associated with there's no doubt about it how those costs would be paid for who would pay for them you know we don't know yet this is something that Dan I think has put a lot of research a lot of of work into it and all and the folks from wordville were pretty positive about it I think they were cautiously positive because it's not easy to do this I mean we know we had one here before but it would mean you would for for somebody that had a health crisis or an automobile accident or something on this side of the valley uh that was really critical and you really needed that time and I've been in a situation in my life where I've barely made it to the emergency room so it's not a joke when you're the guy in the you know uh anyway I won't go on uh Martha if you have any further questions you can send me an email or something uh but this is the first kind of public announcement of the intention to do this and that's the end of my presentation thank you I appreciate you taking on that um very good correspondence and working with them um Susie did you have something that you wanted to talk about oh yeah I just have a couple of questions I was hoping Terry was going to be here because I've spoken with him in the past um there there's water coming into my basement and um all through the drought it continued and uh Terry did come in and he had some kind of testing device that he said would pick up water flow in the pipe um and he didn't pick up any but he said that he was going to and I'll follow up with Terry um but I just want to preface this with somebody who has more advanced equipment that would come in and see if there's leakage somewhere if there's a leak from the town I've had I've had three different contractors strongly urge me to contact the town as to whether or not that that's the problem in the southwest corner of my basement I went down there just before I came over the soil is so wet that you pick it up and squeeze it and the moisture comes out there's no runoff from the road the only runoff that my house has is from my roof um and as I said it's been wet for the last 20 years that I've been there so um like one of my questions is you know as I said I'll talk to Terry to see if he can we can revisit this and he can get in touch with whoever it was he was thinking of getting in touch with and then where does the responsibility fall in terms of of of figuring it out I mean I I don't know what I don't know what to do other than talking to Terry and now I'm here talking to you about it because it's seeming more and more like that's what's going on um because there's no place else for the water to be coming from well it could be an underground spring down to I mean we have that issue right down by the town garage if you drive down to go over the bridge to river brook just right in the middle of the road there's a running stream that comes out of there in the spring and no one knows where it's coming from it's just from the ground um but it could that be determined somehow well I would think that for Terry's point of view we just look and see if there's any leakage anywhere as far if we can detect any leakage from our system and and alleviate that issue but I would say it's probably just a ground thing and everything basement or you call Mike there or whatever it is oh you know I understand that it's just that I don't know what else because it's it's it's it's really wet where the water where the water water comes in and then where the sewage pipe comes in that area is wet as well it may be just tracking the pipes into your house too that could be the water runs along the pipes yeah would flow follow the pipe because it's just a natural occurrence that it would have a channel would make a channel where your pipe is okay that's a that's a normal thing but if there's leakage there they should be able to detect that yeah if it has the the people with more sophisticated equipment to to hear or to eliminate it or diagnose it okay I have three uh some pumps in the hardware that tend to work not uh 24-7 but year-round they kick in when we have there's a lot of roof on the hardware yeah and when we have heavy rains we will get water into the basement of the hardware because we have basically a stone foundation underneath that hardware so water finds its way in we have three some pumps in the basement that right they'll kick on in august if we get enough rain yeah yeah okay so so just get back in touch with terry and he can he can just do whatever needs to be done and he'll communicate with you guys or yeah we can follow up with that too I mean we can talk to terry about it see where he stands and they go from there because if they do bring this better equipment then I think they should really take a close look down by the town garage too because it's like it's just like a stream running out of it yeah those are out of the middle of the road yeah but it dries up I guess during the summer I don't ever remember seeing that but boy it runs right down the road my last question is that where the where the water the main water pipe comes in from the road into the basement it's like a cave kind of thing like there's no wall there was that the builder the original builders or when the water when the water comes in who does that the homeowner the town or should I concrete that closed I mean is it a stone foundation or is it report concrete it's concrete the whole foundation is concrete yeah so that they would probably made a little wooden form over where those lines are going to come in and then over time that would might have rotted away you know to to to leave an opening to put the pipes you know but it shouldn't be a big opening it's a big opening it's a big opening I don't know I mean is it but it's concrete that's falling away I believe so I mean I don't know if there was anything there ever because I wasn't around okay all right all right I mean yeah I'm just trying to gather information I'll track them down thank you I'm really curious though if your kitty's still outside waiting for you got anyone online that has anything they'd like to talk about tonight just the other thing we have the part of the trees we did acquire that grant for uh five thousand with a matching side of it for another five so making it a ten thousand dollar enterprise for us we uh Nancy Lois and myself took a trip to Moncton to look at the trees and we purchased six trees with the grant they're all two and a half to three inches in diameter I don't do you have the the type of trees they are do you one's a sycamore I remember sycamore and a hornbeam a hornbeam okay and and they'll will be wanting to put those in the ground within a couple of weeks I'd like to do it by the end of next week before they get solidly leaved out it's recommended that we do that and I think Doug Duvall is going to be here this weekend and he can sort of look at how to site them the placement we're we're thinking probably from Bethel mountain road over through towards Nancy's house would be the first set because these are to replace those ash trees that are that are have to be dead within three or four to five years so these were recommended by the the arborist up there the owner of the the nursery which is a wholesale outlet it's not they're not open to retail but this is really an interesting little trip we took there and so we'll be looking for volunteers with some machinery and try to get the holes dug and and the trees planted and then after that we'd like to before the end of the month before Memorial Day we would like to put mulch around all the other trees that are on the park we've arranged to get the purchase of of whatever yardage of material we need but we'll be looking to get some volunteers together to just you know come up for a day and do some shoveling and we'll get a few people with equipment that can run the mulch back and forth and just you know bruise it up a little bit to keep the mowers away from the base of the trees and try to protect that a little bit and the mulch will probably last maybe two years at the most but you know it'll at least help alleviate and then maybe in the future we can look to maybe up it a little bit more we won't have to put so much mulch but just enhance it a little bit whether we do it ourselves or more contracted out will be a lot less so well maybe when they're they come through um trimming around power lines and they are looking for we could um that stuff is usually pretty gnarly yeah it's got all kinds of stuff in it so i wouldn't i wouldn't suggest that we're looking at a dark mix that colton can provide to us um excuse me frank um you are looking for volunteers to help with the the work planting the trees and doing the mulch and everything should i mention that if someone wants to volunteer should they call the town office should they call you how or should they just show up or do you have a date in time or yes um if they're interested in helping in it with any of that they can give their name to julie at the town office and we'll keep a list and and then we'll let them know they can leave their email address or we can or the phone number and we can let them know what our time frame is what exact times we have so we haven't established those yet i think we're just waiting just to kind of and then we'll have to have maintenance in the summer months too they're going to require watering yeah where with the water is here okay thank you where with the water company is there a the fire hydrant we'll get big tanks and well you won't need a big tank there's only six trees so whatever if you use a five gallon paliper tree once every three days or whatever they recommend we do i've got a little 65 gallon tank that i use for my sap in the spring and you it can be used for this during the summer and it can go in a little trailer and we can go right out and and hitch it on a lawn mower and then just feed it that way that's exciting so are you going to leave the ash trees or they're we're going to see how they survive i mean there's no telling that they'll actually die we don't know um it was recommended by the the natural resources group and the parks and rec people that said these trees are just the type that the ash bore will get because they're in the open and they're susceptible to that so we're just trying to do a pre planting so that we if we do have to lose them we've got something in place going forward and they survive they're they're still not yeah that's what we're that's what we're trying to figure out where we should plant them without taking up all the open space either you know one of the problems is they are all the same species and so if something happens we potentially will lose all of those ash trees so once one gets at the rest of them well go go like dominoes so we've got six that we bought this year and we're starting from the beffa mountain road makes more sense going towards park road because there's less trees there there's more competition that if we go down towards the the park house there's the trees there's more trees there that are closer so we may not have to put so many in reserve but that's exciting and all the all the big trees are ash trees that's all just on the outside coming down park road yeah those are all ash green ash so most of them all of them are green ash there's two 50 years ago when they planted them that's what they did they don't recommend planting like that any any longer not one species yeah so and then they they also looked at all the trees the natural resources inventory dollar trees that are there there's 49 that are there and we have the condition of every one of those trees yeah so they were really helpful and they were good with the grant as far as they helped us get through that part of it and they were really excited that we were taking a step forward and trying to preserve that area even the arborist said you know I come down here sometimes I just want to go over and sit on the on the park house porch he said because I think I want to go there when I get grazes I love looking at that park so he comes over from Moncton and passes through here on occasion so he's familiar with our park which is nice to hear you know it's a good thing to hear all right Tony about I don't know a year or so ago some guy was here talking about giving trees to the town yeah do that happen along the river there on the edge of the on the edge of the river there because we lost a big butternut I think a couple other trees up there so we had to put a bunch up there no I'd like to get rid of the ones that are there all right um if no one has anything else I'd like to talk about I'd move to adjourn my second all in favor all right thank you all thank you thank you