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No. Yeah, because I'm using that's we we try to Separate our browsers because we have so much like set up stuff done for I got you Well the canary was properly alerting you to the coal mine. Yeah, no that's get out of there Justin is its namesake after all Really chrome is updating piece of junk Did you get a plaque from patreon? For having over a thousand patrons No Because you definitely have over a thousand patrons, right? I'm gonna give it to I'm gonna be up there Maybe they're gonna hand it to me then Save the shipping cost, you know So Yeah, maybe they I don't know what's it called the the guys from red letter media Got one. Oh God. Yeah. No, you have four thousand six hundred and forty-six patrons Oh Maybe I did just didn't properly appreciate it and left me Well The red letter media guys definitely got there's shattered. Okay. It shattered in the mail. Oh, no That's awful Yeah, somehow appropriate for them. All right, should we get going? Yes, let's do it Daily tech news show is powered by its audience not outside organizations to find out more head to daily tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Thursday September 29th 2016. I'm Tom married Justin Robert young alongside today We're gonna talk about drinking and eating with technology Yeah, you're right. Hey everybody, you know, it's it's uh, we're we're getting into the fall, right? This is when the autumn as some say autumn, right? have the Well, what's those what's some trees there in that in DC? The the cherry blossoms. Yeah, isn't that a right of that happens in the spring though? Is that oh is that a spring into summer? Yeah, I didn't oh, I guess no trees die in autumn, right? Like our hopes thousand a thousand so far today. Oh my good Lord All right, so we're gonna be talking about technology and Food food is there fine dining Delivering booze to your home Important issues in technology Also a few tidbits Facebook sent out an invite for their Facebook at work launch event October 10th in London They're gonna miss you No, I'll be there. Oh, no, you're gonna be there. You should go. You want me to crash it crash it. Yeah, okay Android wear 2.0 is delayed until early 2017 Which which we knew before right that most people who are into Android or likes are are saying that's fine That's fine. I'm yeah, I know they were supposed to put it out before the end of this year That's what they said at Google. I oh, I don't mind. I wanted to get it right and Microsoft has created a new division for AI Separate from Windows Office and Cloud. So Cortana now in a new AI division Interesting yeah, and you know probably better for them going forward considering how much You know IBM's Watson has become an enterprise platform now. Here are some more top stories. Ah Yes, the iPhone 8 rumors have begun KGI securities analyst Ming-Chi Quo has a good track record I'm predicting what Apple will do and Quo already has a report on the next iPhone glass front and back design Kind of similar to what the iPhone 4 and 4s had a less rounded glass cut Which I guess the old glass cut that we have now is called 3d glass this one would be called 2.5d glass It's supposed to be more durable Casing may come in two types. You might get stainless steel on your high-end iPhones and then aluminum for some If there's like a 5c equivalent that kind of thing Quo also think it's possible There could be a 5.8 inch model instead of the 5.5 inch model because of the reduced bezel size but really what what we kind of expect and what has been rumored with the iPhone 8 which will be a 10-year anniversary correct sense. Oh, right. No, there's that crazy rumor kicking around now Quo didn't mention that but yeah There's like the 10th 10th anniversary edition that the glass front and back The big rumor is that we are going to lose the only button on the front that the iPhone has ever known and we will go to a Just full screen that has haptic feedback to you know, home out of stuff Apple ripping off Xiaomi again Because the new me the new me flagship has that they have that that sensor button in the glass They like leapfrogged sure sure and it'll be curious to see I haven't played with to see how that feels tactically I will say on the iPhone 7s the The the button that's not really a button feels more like a button than the last phone felt like a button like it is Really remarkable what they can do with that that that haptic feedback to make it feel like you're actually pressing something now real quick side note This is Ming-Chi Quo the only reason that I even cock Cognizant to put this in the show is because it's Ming-Chi Quo and he and that's a fairly reliable source iPhone rumors man They always tear up the charts top of Google news top of tech meme top of the subreddits everywhere Why? Because we're out why here's why Tom there there was a day Kids ask your parents when all these would be very secret and everyone would just guess and they would look into their navels And imagine what Steve Jobs would bring to us on a certain predetermined day, right? And now we live in a different world because those moments in 2007 on we're so exciting that Everybody scrapes claws, you know pays off has sources in these supply chains So we break up that one massive surprise what used to just be a gigantic asteroid that would slam into our technology news landscape and Breaks it up in the atmosphere and now all's we get are just these little pinpricks of information Many of which are true and some of which are false But we all find interesting because how else are we going to be able to watch an iPhone announcement and say yawn Already heard it if we don't already hear it So it's feeding our own on we is what you're saying as a society Certainly so feeding your own on we was also my joy division cover band Well on we on we on we go double clicks reference the financial Times reports that its sources say Spotify is an advanced Talks to acquire a SoundCloud Spotify supposedly looked into acquiring SoundCloud last spring, but talks broke down over price Twitter made a hundred million dollar investment in SoundCloud in June valuing the company at over 700 million and the Docs with Spotify resume the company has an extensive collection of 135 million tracks some of which Spotify could use to bolster Its catalog although some are also episodes of this show which Spotify is probably not gonna bolster its music catalog with No, but I mean the Spotify has had an interest in getting into podcasts and exactly how much of You know the the SoundCloud experience is in spoken word I know I certainly use it as a place to upload every podcast that I do personally, but mostly that's because SoundCloud is thought to be a universal viral sharing solution Where there do not exist many in the world of spoken word audio if you want that that's where I think the price differential gets Gets interesting because Spotify would it would make sense for them to buy SoundCloud They get access to a whole world of musicians It may not be a hundred thirty five million tracks that are all music But enough are that they can get access to all these musicians those musicians would then get an easier route into Spotify They Spotify would have to keep SoundCloud operating as it is for that to continue to generate Independent artists because the the barrier to entry on SoundCloud is nothing right? You just upload you start putting your music out there and to do that They'd have to figure out either how to monetize SoundCloud better which SoundCloud itself hasn't done yet or Just live with it being a break-even or a loss leader You know it is in this very tricky situation You're right because artists have rebelled against the idea that you should charge per song or charge per Amount of audio that is on there. It has kind of restricted its money-making capabilities and yet There's a reason why Gigantic artists, you know Kanye West and the Drake's of the world will upload songs and this is probably Drake pre his Apple deal They'll upload Especially mixtape kinds of songs that they are not going to make it on albums because they just know their fans will hear it It's free. You see a SoundCloud link. You don't think twice about I don't know Do I subscribe to it? Am I only gonna get five seconds into it? Should I just search for it on YouTube like there's there's just Their their brand is very very viral and yet very very resistant to money-making. Yeah, yeah I just whatever happens. I want SoundCloud to continue to exist and host the back catalog of shows Yeah, I mean, I I don't want to have to move off of it either. I've got options there though I'm not too worried about that but you know, it's it's a nice collection. It does have a nice interface It's like a YouTube for audio. I love that well And they made that Twitter deal and the fact that they they have had a very very competent use of the audio card System within Twitter was huge because then you could just listen to a podcast would pop up in your Twitter feed Yeah, what would start playing you didn't have to worry about anything else That is viral in a world where there is not a lot of viral. There's not a lot of viral in podcast Very true Is this Amazon I think oh, yeah, no, sorry. It's me. I screwed that up Amazon Google IBM Facebook and Microsoft joined to launch the partnership on AI That's not just a generic reference. The group is called Partnership on AI it will conduct research and promote best practices The group hopes to expand to include not only more tech companies, but also activists nonprofits Ethicists and more it plans to use a standard open license to publish research on topics like ethics Inclusivity and privacy as it relates to AI discussions and meeting minutes will also be made available to the public so Kind of a weird thing going on with machine learning and artificial intelligence Everybody's in a race to open up their research, you know one day Google's doing TensorFlow and the next day Facebook's open sourcing a machine that they run and then Nvidia is open sourcing some hardware every everybody wants to make their mark Openly they're not protecting stuff and now I mean these are the big players Amazon Google Facebook Microsoft, you know, the only ones missing out of here are Apple And everyone speculates that Apple's AI efforts as shrouded in secrecy as they are are not as far along as these other companies Of course IBM with Watson in there as well. So these are the big competitors the people leading the way Agreeing to get together and like let's get ahead of the ethics issue. Let's get ahead of the privacy issue Let's do this sector right from the beginning Well, you're right because you've identified a huge reason to do this shared blame. They can say hey if something goes wrong It's not because one person has ruined the reputation of AI for everybody else They can say well, this is a partnership. We're working on this. We're working on it together If something goes wrong, it's because the best minds at all these companies thought that one thing was going to do something And now we will all correct it and it will be a industry-wide change instantaneously It's interesting to look at this lineup though Amazon Google Facebook. What do they all have in common? It doesn't matter what the AI machine you layer on top of their product is because they own the proprietary data That will always make it special So the AI can just be best-in-class AI and they will always have their own mountain of proprietary data to feed it To various people mostly advertisers Yeah, that's the analytics. No, it's a great point IBM and Microsoft are different IBM and Microsoft are building their own versions Because they're building their own machines both in Cortana and Watson to then go to other enterprises and say hey We'll help you Move your data in new interesting and exciting ways like well And Amazon's kind of playing both sides of those fence with Alexa too. That's good. That's another good. Yeah So it's interesting where they're coming from and you're and you're getting people on all sides of the fence But I think that the reason why they are very interested to share You know share where they are right now is because what makes them special is not the AI the AI is just something That they want to get as good as possible Because their data can be unlocked or the data of their clients can be unlocked in more new and exciting way It's the freemium model writ large In some ways, I mean that's oversimplifying it but but but that's kind of what you're saying and I think it's more than just PR I think it's also saying let's try to avoid pitfalls. Let's try not to do something That will cause problems either with people upset about what we're doing with AI or You know the Stephen Hawking's and Elon Musk's of the world worrying about AI becoming out of control Let's we know what this is. We work with it every day. We know what the actual risks are So let's make it very clear what they are and bring in great minds to evaluate that who understand this space and can say This is actually where we are in this process and and also This seems like the the people that are in Control here or are making these calls are engineers who want to be open and every once in a while you get Engineers that don't especially hardware engineers that want to shroud their things in secrecy so they can make a big splash But for AI people, you know, I'll say well when I was at the collision conference a few months ago That's all anybody could talk about and everybody wanted to talk to everybody about it. So there's right now just a very exciting Moment there whether or not they can continue to capitalize on remains to be seen Yeah, it it is always It's a truism I guess that The engineers on the cutting edge always want to be as open as possible And the older and longer in the tooth the technology gets And the older the company that's trying to embrace the technology is the more Closed off they want to get The us cspc Investigating 21 cases of samsung washers causing property damage samsung says in rare cases the washing bulky items It's washing machines may experience abnormal vibrations that pose a safety risk Low speed delicate cycle when washing quote betting bulky or water resistant materials and quote front loading models are not affected and despite the headlines None of the machines actually exploded though. They did do dramatic damage to themselves And the walls that dared try cage them in Yeah, so on the one hand part of me is a looks at these stories and says look if this was I don't know whirlpool. There'd be no tech blogs picking this up This is this is the fact that hey samsung batteries were overheating And so now we're going to look at the southern samsung thing that is not working correctly Because hey samsung is a common word. These aren't even the same divisions in samsung So this is but it is unfortunate for samsung that they have some washers that are this they're not behaving properly Like when you put an unbalanced load in a washer. Yeah, it's going to make a lot of noise Maybe it'll throw an alarm at you. It should not tear itself into pieces though No, no and by the way, if you want a very exciting couple hours just just Do yourself a youtube favor and just search for out of control washing machines Those things can be absolute bulls in china shops literally Uh, you're you hit the nail on the head here. This is a story about reporting This is a story about the fact that say i mean the the samsung galaxy note seven story Is something that has reached beyond tech. This is a good morning america story I was on my flight from la to san francisco today had another had an announcement as many people's flights have Saying if you have a samsung galaxy note seven, please do not power it on and please do not charge it When that's the level that the story breaks out in then. Yeah, it might be totally unrelated except for You know maybe uh on a very broad level you can say that there are you know qa lapses Uh within the gigantic mega corporation of samsung maybe but And samsung's in the news for exploding phones and then there's an acknowledged situation where there might be problems with the washers A samsung can't just let it Uh, hope that it goes away because it's going to be a big deal and once it becomes a big deal It's just going to catch fire. No pun intended. Yeah And the samsung lions baseball team hasn't even had that great of a season this year. So it's just It's hard all across the world for the tragedy Right Uh aol has released ios and android versions of its alto email manager Uh, if let me take you back to three years ago when we were talking about aol launching an email client Called alto on the desktop. Well, they've been continuing to work on it Uh, and now they've got android and ios apps launching and aol says they're going to save email Alto automatically sorts email into stacks. So it says these are your travel emails. These are your photos These are your files. These are your shopping emails. These are your personal emails And then the the thing that is impressive and is turning most people's heads is the dashboard Because that'll take an email pull the appropriate information from it and turn it into a card So if you have an upcoming event, it'll say this is the event. This is where it is This is what time it is. Uh, if you have a shipment, it'll give you the tracking number You have a flight. It'll give you that essential information hotel bookings, etc You get the idea and then cards rise to the top Based on the need. So if it's close to your flight and you're at the airport It's going to put that boarding pass card up at the top, etc, etc A lot of this is is stuff that inbox does for google, right? Yeah, but not as Elegant. I don't know if hella gets the right word But this has really got a good design with that dashboard which kind of combines the benefits of wallet And google now Into email in a way that I don't feel like inbox quite does yet. It's close Uh, the question is is it as good as inbox, which is very good on on the The part of being able to tell like what an event is, etc Are you going to try it? Should I you know what I should shouldn't I I think I'm going to try it. I've I've I've been I'm a I'm a I'm a bit of a saucy gentleman when it comes to flopping around my my email clients So I because you don't need you don't need an aol email address. That's good. A lot of people are going to hear Oh, it's aol. So I have to who has an aol email. That's believe me aol understands that they don't expect you to have it You can use whatever email address you want. That's kind of it's like outlook from microsoft You can use any email address in outlook too A kind of a second level beyond this because just thinking about aol is a brand, right? If we are to say that eventually everything old becomes new again and and nostalgia can dominate If aol decided to rebrand with the exact same Evocative branding of its early 90s sending Uh, congratulations. You have 40 000 hours on this uh compact disc and again kids ask your parents, uh Like I feel like I would have warm feelings about aol the brand now thinking of it as This a venerable early pioneer that you've got a boarding pass Yeah, yeah, like I don't know like maybe I could just use a i am in my life again Speaking of the 90s youtube has hired former def jam and warner music group executive lyre cohen as its global head of music Cohen is currently ceo and co-founder of record label 300 entertainment Which has fetty wap and young thug among others in its roster cohen will stay ceo of 300 until december 5th When he will move to youtube music. This is not cohen's first dealing with google Uh, not only does google have an investment with 300 when cohen was the head of wng in september 2006 Cohen oversaw an agreement with youtube that allowed the site to show warner music group artists in exchange for a share of youtube's Advertising revenue It was a deal that the new york times called the first time a major record company has licensed content to youtube So obviously cohen somebody who has been on top of this and has seen a a very uh, A great deal of influence for his artists on youtube And now officially going to be cash in a check from google. Hey all these titanic record label executives from the You know late 80s mid late 80s through 90s through aughts among them, of course Lee or cohen or lyre cohen i can never remember exactly how it's pronounced and uh jimmy ivyne ivyne of course now at apple cohen will be doing Similarly a job that you know at youtube and google now that they want to get serious about youtube music It seems like uh, you know, but we're just in this full merge of of tech and content now, right? Yeah, it's it's there's a similar thing going on over at tv as well Uh amazon netflix even youtube red Have hired executives out of television to come and help them understand Okay, how do we do the deals like it's we we get content youtube doesn't have a problem with content But how do we deal with this other industry and that youtube music is the poster child for not having dealt with The industry very well the the relationship is in tatters over there. At least that's the public Perception of it. My wife works at youtube and she actually does work with youtube music people But she doesn't tell me any of that stuff. So I don't know for sure But it's pretty obvious that it's not going well when you have executives at music labels publicly saying youtube is trying to cheat us They're not paying us enough money So why not get a heavy weight like mr. Cohen to come in and say hold on you guys I speak your language. This is what youtube is trying to do. This is what we can compromise on Let's come to an agreement that helps everybody well and and Now it is google saying we want to be serious in this fight for the subscription hearts and minds of music lovers everywhere There is no secret that the vast majority of and we talked about soundcloud earlier youtube is a gigantic if not premier place where Fans of music find the music that they love and it's odd because it's not a music service It's a video service But it's free and it's there and and by and large many artists have found a piece there And the liorko and as Warner music group head said no no no Let's make a deal To just get on this platform so people can watch our videos for free because there is no resource for that Like there was in the 90s with mtv and vh1 And that that is that is the analog right youtube is the mtv right now And and viva would like to be And so the the record industry is also a little bit split over the fact that Many of them not all of them are involved in this venture that they would really like to be their hulu To be the thing that that they could crush youtube with and it's not doing it and so They They there's a little of a little ego tied up in there as well Well, certainly so and and you've even seen how that's changed For spotify and apple music, you know and title, you know now They don't want to just have Kanye west do a video For famous They they want to give him a bunch of money to do an art piece where he has mannequins and and naked people sleeping together Apple music doesn't just want to give drake money to do a one dance video They want to give him a director and uh, you know a budget to shoot a 30 minute action film because that that's what Is worth subscribing for is to see this full gigantic thing and not necessarily what we used to think of as a as a music video I'm very curious. Uh, listen uh Lear Cohen both through the 80s in his work with russell simmonds Through the 90s of when he took over def jam and really revitalized that record label bringing an artist like, uh ludicrous and You know all the the def jam south stuff He has had a tremendous tremendous track record including feddy wop who came out of nowhere Three years ago, you know that this was A a huge success story where an album that had been a year and a half old All of a sudden trap queen becomes this like song of the summer So i'm very very curious because this like the jimmy ivy and higher at apple was Smart people given money and resources which tends to do good things. Do you think? We see youtube create a label Oh, I think i mean they're looking at lindsay sterling Who built her entire career on youtube as a shooting star in mainstream music now? Uh, and you you got to be thinking they wish they had been able to sign her at some point Well, so if they are going to take the same model that apple has jimmy ivy And is basically going to these artists and saying he went to frank ocean Uh and said hey look you got one album left on your def jam contract. Here's what we're gonna do You're gonna record a visual album And you are going to release that on friday And that will satisfy your legally when we have had our lawyers look through it That'll satisfy your contracted def jam on saturday you will release an apple music exclusive that you own all the rights to Uh, we'll just get exclusivity on distribution Called blonde and it will be the bigger more critically reviewed more paid attention to album It will piss off def jam. It will almost certainly burn your bridge with that label But who needs a label chance the rapper had the number one album in the country Uh on apple music apple music's distribution You are seeing major artists now smaller artists. Who knows there's probably going to be a place for People to put in some promotion, but for major artists The idea of a label means less and less by the day What and this goes back to why Spotify wants soundcloud, doesn't it? Yep Yeah, uh, right. Uh, well those are the key stories big thanks to all those who participate in our subreddit and help us identify Those key stories every day submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit dot com Let's talk food a couple stories caught our eye today one danie meyer Who any of you who know shakeshack? He's the guy who founded that but he also owns some high end dining facilities including union square hospitality group Which runs the union square cafe, which is reopening in Manhattan next month He's teaming up with resi Uh, most famous probably to this audience is the fact that gary vanercheck is involved with resi resi has been around for a couple years Trying to compete with open table by saying hey pony up a little cash And we'll get you that hard to get table at that one restaurant that you usually have to call 30 days or more in advance for They're now creating something for to hang with me folks the reservation os app I'm sorry the reservation app resi is creating an os Uh, they're creating a point of sale system for fine dining They developed it with union square cafe and the idea is that the managers and the sommeliers the people who know the wine They will all wear apple watches and get alerts from this resi os as significant things happen So table's been waiting too long somebody orders wine Somalia doesn't have to get a ticket shows up on the apple watch goes and grabs the bottle takes it over to them People will be able to pay their checks without having to wait for the rest of the table because of this operating system So just a bunch of ways to integrate the service at a fine dining establishment. Justin Yeah, very very very interesting play for them because there certainly have been Plenty of solutions for getting a reservation online and they are pretty pervasive. I mean, I know that In in various different mobile and desktop even browser versions open table plugs into a Very simple no sign-in system where you can just say oh no I want to go to millennium in oakland uh at eight o'clock on thursday And I did that from just finding the google search result on my browser What resi is looking to do is say hey There's a lot and who knows exactly how big this market is But specifically living in the bay area and also in in new york city la absolutely as well probably chicago miami There are a class of restaurants That are very expensive And are curated Experiences so you want End service and this is a way for people to get that I mean effectively if you've ever worked in a restaurant This is just basically a way that your manager can have a mathematical understanding Of that table was sat two minutes ago. It doesn't seem as if anybody's given them water Let me walk over there apologize for the busy night and make sure that they get water and we get an app in there You know for free, right? Or the the the sommelier is able to just come over and bring wines and start a conversation immediately Instead of having to wait for the server to go run to the bar put in the drink order run to the kitchen Make sure that that order gets in and there's some allergy situation And then go over to the sommelier and say hey can you head over to the table to talk to them about whatever wine they might want they can even uh One of the situations they described in the story was uh when you see that a table starting to wrap up Message the coat check person With that table's number and then the coats magically can appear for everybody right when they need them Now i'm curious to see how the rubber meets the road on this Danny mayer is somebody who has a very forward-thinking philosophy I think it has a really good shot to work at a restaurant But I think anybody who's worked at restaurants can let you know that very often the crew that is there is not necessarily one that uh, you know congeals together in the best kind of ways and maybe having I know for some waiters that there is a waiter or waitress listening to this podcast right now that is saying oh wait another way that a manager can be right up my my Something yeah apple watches for all that's so exciting right and the servers don't get the apple watches Only the only the managers and the sommeliers the managers and the sommeliers in this restaurant And if you like your manager, that's probably not a bad thing if you hate your manager It might be a bad thing But that's a little pedantic. No, and it's a good it's a good point that resi os Designed was designed for union square hospitality group Like this is resi working very closely to make it in this one situation Which I mean that's a good way to prototype something like learn by talking to the people who actually need it and suit it to them But then the next trick will have to be like, okay How do we adapt this without having to go through intense? Negotiations which with every single restaurant and designing it custom for them Well, when do we get the off the rack version and will it work? I mean, I think that you're what what you are seeing now is nothing different than what ibm and uh, Microsoft want to do for ai like they are they are looking they're designing something for enterprise solutions So you are going to call resi and you're going to say oh my god I saw what you guys did for danie meyer. That looks so cool We really want that too and you're going to get a very friendly person to call you back and say hey Here are our pricing tiers Here's the ability that we have to consult with you to to go ahead and do it now What's what's interesting about this? And i'm sure that there is a a multitude of videos give of gary vaner chuck in his trademark vaner chuckian style Very excitedly explaining why this is a brilliant idea and I happen to agree with them that This is something that has just not existed before Uh, you know enterprise level restaurant solutions by and large are very industrial It is like point of sale systems and they've almost Kind of been the same major terminal solutions since the mid 90s, right? This is a way to do that now. Let's get into the tech angle a little bit the apple watch Which has Certainly beyond the fitness tracker had a hard time finding a killer app that just exists on your watch Might have an interesting solution here in that it is just always on you're always going to be able to do it and it's Although culturally It is rude to look at your watch while somebody is talking to you It is even ruder for someone to pull out their phone and enter stuff in And so a manager who's bustling around doesn't want to have to stop and look at a tablet Doesn't want to have to pull out a phone, but a watch is perfect for that Sure, and and you know, it's always there. You're always going to be able to just check it and just see You know from an overseeing perspective It could be very interesting. I'm very curious to see what the os Is going to be I think a lot of what we have in this story is Phase two stuff that is is very artfully kind of blended in to sound like it is phase one stuff including the the payment uh at the tables and stuff like that like right now this os is just for the staff and There's a there's another angle on this which uh, if you if you're not didn't realize apple has been working with ibm and plenty of others on enterprise sales of devices and They just most recently signed a deal with Deloitte and touche to help them sell products into the enterprise This is going to be one of their talking points in those kind of meetings like hey Have you seen what the union square cafe folks have been doing in manhattan? That's an enterprise level institution of the apple watch And your factory floor your your military application could benefit in Similar ways because of x y and z Yeah, it really does highlight why the watch is a good place for information and computing And and ultimately whether it be apple or or android ware or or even fitbit The the problem is is that we can see a more exciting future And yet we just keep hitting this class barrier that you know has battery life and processor and radio Availability kind of written all over it that we we just cannot get past that to unlock All the exciting stuff that we could just do on our wrist now on the other side of the wrist For people who don't like to go out to fine dining or can't afford to go out to fine dining And just want to stay home and have a nice whiskey or beer Drizzly exists. It's already a one-hour delivery app in many places in the united states But the problem is a lot of liquor stores Don't really want to work in an hour delivery fashion And so they haven't signed up. I think they've signed up 1500 liquor stores across the united states So drizzly completed a marketplace that they're launching in san francisco Where more stores can sign up and give customers not only the ability to compare prices But also choose between one hour same day next day. Maybe even pick it up yourself When they want to order these things so you got more options Yeah, this is Kind of curious, but it's it's smart for drizzly because If you are just a company Uh, all right, so so, uh, let's take a look at like eat 24 or grub hub or something like that Like things that do this for food just provide a layer on top of already existing delivery services So, uh, you know people can get more business restaurants can sign up for that because by and large Unless you're in a very very weirdly zoned place that has very peculiar local laws Nothing's illegal. Nothing illegal is happening when grub hub connects you to your favorite chinese place It's just an easier better way to navigate their menu and make an order there are Byzantine local liquor laws and if you are trying to launch yourself as a Online brand which comes with the berry or comes with the reputation of being omnipresent Open up your app get it done You will always disappoint people Because of the local laws like you're just going to have to hit that barrier What the marketplace does is say you want to know what? Forget us trying to go to everybody If you would like more sales and you are Interested in working in our thing in our in our way to go Then you come to us and and you will see the benefit of what it is to work with us Well, one of the things drizzly is touting here is we figured out how to do this in 50 states in the united states And that is no mean feat because of the variants of laws related to liquor and its consumption So guess what we should take that hard work that we did for one hour delivery And and use it in more ways than just one hour delivery because more people can take advantage of it Because they know what those laws are they're like well, you can't do that in this situation But we could do next day or we could do pickup. So let's let's let's make those options available You know it's it's it's interesting because that has kind of been you know, especially out here There is a booming business and blank gets brought to you and yet alcohol has not quite followed that despite its tremendous popularity Uh because it is hard it's hard to do it's hard to stay on the right side of the law of and If if drizzly can figure it out, which it seems like they have then I know I will I'll be I'll be a part of that I'll be their huckleberry All right. Well, it's launching in San Francisco. So, uh, you know, yeah, I don't know Let's see if they're if they're if they're delivering to oakland and maybe uh, maybe next uh next week I'll I'll show up drunk. All right In the service of research mind you Uh our pick of the day comes from glenn the geek Who right is a very I usually don't write like to read these self these notes that are nice to me But I just think he's doing an amazing thing here. He says eight years ago You inspired me to start a podcast in the horse world the horse radio network now has 27 hosts 10 shows and we hit 5000 episodes tomorrow And then he says thank you for doing what you do and for being an inspiration to podcast everywhere, which is very nice Uh, but the fact that in any way I might have inspired someone to create An amazing podcast network in the world of horses, which monk sister is by the way. She keeps horses. She loves them Uh, it's fantastic. So go check out horse radio network dot com Uh and take a look at it If you're at all into horses That's super fun horse radio network dot com That they think that stuff about vets. They've got stuff about, you know keeping your horse healthy Uh, it's amazing. All right our message of the day comes from Jonathan Lawson I've been trying to get this one into the show for like a week now Jonathan would like to see marching band virtual reality He points out that a lot of videos exist where say a drummer will wear a gopro And you get that first person perspective Jonathan says what if the drummer in that video was wearing a vr rig? Obviously the current vr rigs are too bulky, but it's only a matter of time before that becomes a non-issue In addition that would be really good for the teaching aspect of marching band because you could turn around and see the footing and and whether people are in step and stuff like that Uh, that sounds uh, fascinating. I mean, I think It's it's gonna be interesting because you know, uh, we there was also a story today about Best Buy going to do a midnight launch event for playstation vr And the more I read about playstation vr the more I want playstation vr I think it's going to be very very cool But i'm curious to see where this world goes because Right now you have probably the best physical experience in the vive with the playstation vr According to reviews you're going to get a heightened visual Experience and the triple a games which you cannot discount So now where is the market for experiential vr? Where's the market for indy vr? Where's the market for triple a vr? Is it easier for instructional situations like this? Somebody's teaching marching band and wants to use this. Is it easier to get a playstation? Is that just you know, it's a little easier to get through the educational budget? Maybe that's that's interesting Well, thank you. Justin robert young for joining us as always. Uh, what else you got to tell folks about Well, I think i'm gonna get a 32 ounce growler of jc flyer ipa look at our ship. We delivered to my house in oakland Uh, but aside from that, uh, I am uh, man We, uh, had a really really big week. Of course the debates happened this week You can listen to tom and i break down those debates on the politics politics politics podcast or wednesday edition was Just a big full breakdown of uh me and tom talking about everything that happened. That was a blast. Thanks for having me on I really enjoyed talking about everybody loves it so far. I mean, uh, maybe somebody will hate it later But for right now it's almost universal praise Uh, and then also check out the contender The game of presidential debate where you and your friends can simulate a on-stage presidential style television debate using Real talking points from real presidential candidates. Uh, it is it's been a huge week We did a little mini expansion If anybody's familiar with the contender you can get our 12 card mini expansion At bit.ly slash debate pack. These are all quotes that came from the debate on monday We've already placed our order for all the decks that we are going to order for this run And as of right now i'm looking at it. We have 20 left So wow get in on it better get in on it now because uh, I don't know when we're going to re-print them if we ever do Uh, hey folks, we're about to hit the first of the month again So if you've been wanting to join the dts analysts slack Now is a good time if you support us at 20 a month Which is a dollar per episode or less depending on the month You'll get an invite to the slack Just make sure to choose that reward and make your pledge before october 1st at patreon.com Slash dts big thanks to all the people who already support us and are in that slack It's fun talking to them every single day our email address is feedback at daily tech news show dot com Our show is live monday through friday 4 30 p.m. Eastern come join us out the geek radio dot com diamond club dot tv And our website's daily tech news show dot com back tomorrow with darin kitchen and len peralta talk to you then Part of the frog pants network get more at frog pants dot com I hope you have enjoyed this program Boom, good show. Oh, what should we call it? Uh, I don't know tom Um, can you hear me? Yes, we can. Ooh exciting Uh an apple rumor a day Pardon me, right samsung now lift literally ripping itself apart samsung washing machines of note It's time for the d t tns wine tasting I want my youtube samsung Where palmo s. Yeah, where's the booze one? I was expecting some boozy titles um Hey, hey, I am tired of using technology. I am tired of oh I get it ai. I'm tired of using technology There's our people sending things to me Um, may I please text your order? Samsung singing that same old song Nothing nothing's blowing you away, huh? No Resi wrecked your restaurant You know stuff like that can get really annoying though Like um having a system like that like I I kind of I'm kind of agreement with not agreeing along with uh Justin I'm like, you know just another way for management to get on my It is it's one of those it's one of those things that sounds great, but it's which would you put the whole the social Social aspect of of Being behind the counter. Well, I mean, you know What would be very interesting is if resi's system also did staffing and and uh was able to uh, you know not rely on the kind of like art and science of a uh Of a manager to say well looks like this amount of reservations, but it might be raining so There might be less yada yada yada like uh, you know, that's that's where you get Crap service in general if you're at a restaurant and you get crappy service It is probably because the manager Five hours ago understaffed the restaurant or a week ago understaffed the restaurant compared to the crowd Uh, and and that's the problem where it's like okay. Do we need another? Way for a manager to know that they understaffed the restaurant and their servers are running around like Yes, if it means that they're going to take care of that table, but no, it doesn't fix a bad manager is what you're saying Yeah, doesn't fix or a bad system. I mean a lot of restaurants, especially chain restaurants implement some Very oddly rigid By the way, I don't know what like overnight kind of became like a a very tech forward and pleasant dining experience Wendy's really I went to a Wendy's with andremain yesterday. Oh, yeah, and uh Totally remodeled kitchen or dining room looked great uh and uh They had uh, they're a little uh floating uh POS guys Just like as soon as you walked in it was like an apple store just a guy asking you what you wanted You know put it in you walked over to the register paid them And then they had like a little screen up top So you didn't have to wait and crowd by the counter Uh-huh, just you know flash your name when your stuff was ready and they would call you come pick them up. It was nice So let's so let me ask you this. This is a key test. How is the food? Oh, I mean it's Wendy's. I don't know. I mean, I only ever get for for the last 20 years I've only gotten one thing at Wendy's which is I haven't been to a Wendy's in like five six years Oh, all right, Wendy's If the concept of uh spicy chicken sandwich delights you then then you need to get your ass to Wendy's Because it's the best spicy chicken sandwich and fast food and that's not debatable Uh, I will debate you on it Because you have you you you have literally put it out out there Spicy chicken sandwich of of any fast food chain Any restaurant or in fast food the spicy chicken sandwich at Wendy's is without here Everyone has chased them for two decades. I will have to eat one and then Find a few take the challenge Roger I will go I will eat one. I don't know who else does anything remotely spicy. Yeah, what's the competition and spicy chicken sandwiches? They've all tried like that's been the only thing that Wendy's does that no nothing stuck around, huh? So everybody else has tried little things, but here's what Wendy's got right initially Is it's a chicken patty a breaded chicken patty that has all the spices in the breading It's not a sauce that gets put on on top of it Interesting because everybody else wanted to cheap out and just use the same chicken patties that they use on their other chicken sandwiches Uh, and then just throw some sauce on top and have that be the end of it. Uh, it's not going to work like that Uh, we're good some Chick-fil-A fans Down here. No Chick-fil-A's listen Uh, I will say Chick-fil-A does a good spicy chicken sandwich It is just not Wendy's spicy chicken sandwich. Who does the Chipotle chicken sandwich? Is that Wendy's? No, is that Carl's junior? Oh, Carl's junior right Uh, but yeah, no, I mean I I will say it's in the it's it's it's in that sauce. Yeah He like Chick-fil-A and Wendy's are at least in the conversation So ken brings up does uh pop I do spicy chicken you would assume they do They do but that's the the problem is with this with uh The the Popeyes is that when you're just looking at straight fried chicken breading It's very very brittle and very very hard to the point where it kind of like scrapes your mouth And like that to me is that's not what you want in a sandwich It's what you want in something that you are like picking with your fingers and very specifically kind of eating or Eating with a fork and a knife if you're donald trump on instagram Dark Redeemer says Popeyes does po-boys too, which is all that's kind of setting yourself up in a little bit of a different category Yeah, so final title I'm gonna go with may I please text your order Yeah for number six no mayo or tomato Uh, I can sub a salad for fries I always tell them to put them on the side now. Here's the concept restaurant. I just came up with all right This is an open source. I'm gonna a like like the ai people take this and run with it Uh the emoji restaurant where you you only serve dishes that could be represented by emojis And all of your orders are placed by emoji. So wait a minute I imagine a poo sandwich coming in somewhere. Yeah, you don't put that on the menu not every emoji is on the menu Although I guess you could do a chocolate ice cream Is that poo or chocolate sundae? Roger is like everybody in the chat room too is immediately like poop eggplant Because we know what people do with emojis It's a million dollar idea, right Hey, what if and this is And I already I think it's a dumb idea I'm just gonna say it Like you basically took The the the combination kfc taco bell experience. Yeah Uh, and you needed an app based on where you were it would triangulate All the fast food restaurants that are close to you, right Have its own scientific research on what keeps longer than other things, right? So you'd always want to pick up some things last or whatever and the idea would be it would get you fast food within like 30 minutes of ordering Because all the drivers would never really have to go beyond like two blocks two or three blocks. Okay And you order whatever you could order some taco bell And a spicy chicken sandwich from wendy's if you lived within a triangulated point of both You're like I want McDonald's fries a wendy's shake And a spicy chicken taco from taco bell and that's one order And that's one order and you just do it all through one app And the app would have some research some like food science in like, okay Well, you got to go to this first and then this and then this you order it all via the app Because all these places have their own apps So it's literally just somebody you could probably even automate it I wonder actually I wonder if those apps have apis that you can plug into I don't know It seems like at the end of the day it would be a lot of hassle for something that's supposed to be fast food Not for the not for the end user would it? No, I mean is the end user picking this stuff up or is like no, it's a delivery service Yeah, and then it's very expensive for fast food and I will order really good food instead Yeah, I mean I guess you start restaurants have very thin margins and fast food restaurants have incredibly thin margins Well, yeah, but you're not getting the restaurants are paying for it. You're there's a delivery charge I know but what I'm saying that's how grub hub door dash. That's how all those work Yeah, I guess but but roger's right in that The idea like I never I'll order a lot on postmates all the best food on post mate Now you're right Because it always like, you know who wants, you know some soggy ass Well, and then you got things like in and out where they banned door dash They're like, no you you cannot get our food Stop putting our logo in your app. Stop telling people our menu That's not how it works because because it wasn't An ideal situation when when the way door dash works It could be 45 minutes from the time you order 50 maybe an hour And then you get this like cold burger and the fries aren't as good and in and out It was like oh now people think that's our food That's not our food our food is meant to be consumed shortly after order But you want to know what there's a a fantastic mac and cheese place right up broadway from me Called um, what is it homeroom homeroom mac and cheese. Oh, yeah, I know homeroom and they Decide they got so much business on postmates That they just opened up their own to go only Kitchett Huh now can you walk up and get it to go? I think you could We're just doing so much to go ordering. Yeah, the point is like we're just gonna deliver this Have the same recipes same ingredients, right? But just have one that's only dedicated to Getting that stuff into tins and out the door asap Yeah, I wonder if they're I mean, I guess that's the thing with in and out is they don't have proper packaging Yeah, because I even I I live Just far enough from the in and out That the fries aren't always hot by the time I get home And that's me going straight from the drive-thru home, right? Unlike I'd like a delivery service Because all they ever give you is a bag Yeah It's not my bug There's got to be there's something to that like a la carte because it It may turn a lot of people off to be talking about fast food because you're like, oh, I don't I don't like fast food But there's all kinds of fast food that people like things that are you know fast to make but not chain restaurants Sandwiches those are pretty quick Yeah, but subway kind of ruined that whole thing for me for the longest time What's that just like getting sandwich for for a meal like lunch or something just because I didn't They're they're I wasn't very fond of their ingredients. I'll leave it at that Then you've got to go to um, what was the other one? I went to quiz nose. Yeah, I had or go to that hot toaster oven place So I went to togos. I went to have been to subway. I've been to quiz nose I've been all to the change. What about the toe when you looked at game spot. Did you go to toaster oven? That was amazing. That place was amazingly expensive. Oh, it was six dollars. It wasn't that crazy You six dollars first in san francisco Yeah, but this was but this was like what 10 years ago Quiz nose was like five you weren't it wasn't that different. I didn't like quiz nose either Yeah, I thought they're bread hot bellies are pretty sweet. That's a pretty sweet, uh Option as well I did I did pride myself on being able to get lunch for five dollars Uh, when I worked around seen it because I would either go to uh the deli And just do the hot bar Or I would go to the curry place which all of their entrees were 4.99 or 3.99 Uh, all right friends. I'm out of here. All right, man Adios. Have a good one. Good to see you this week. Oh, yeah. Thank you so much for your hospitality. Absolutely my pleasure All right, peace See Oh, man, everyone's well soundcloud does this thing where you press save and it doesn't save Like it actually does save but the the screen doesn't take you to the Next screen to the next screen. It just keeps reloading the save screen Thank you ken from chicago Let's see if it actually did save though May I please text your order? Yes, you may Oh Sometimes you get tired of restaurants You get tired of everything I do. I'm just I was old when the world was young they came out Came out of this world griping and complaining you could tell because I was crying. It's like All right, we are published. Thank you all for watching We'll see you with darin and len and roger and myself tomorrow