 You know, when I caught the second case, I caught the second case. But while I was doing the first case, I saw what Defro did. Okay. You know, me and Harrio was cellies when they started Defro. So I got a first-hand look at when Defro was birthed. Yeah, we on boss talk one-on-one, one-on-one. Yeah, we gon' talk. Yeah, yeah. So I had no idea that I would be in the marijuana business. That was the furthest thing from my mind. I had made a, you know, when I caught the second case, I caught the second case. But while I was doing the first case, I saw what Defro did. Okay. You know, me and Harrio were cellies when they started Defro. So I got a first-hand look at when Defro was birthed. I was in the delivery room. You heard and seen it all. You know what I'm saying? I was in the room when David Kenner, Harrio, and me were all in the same attorney room. That's crazy, man. Like, did you think it would ever be as big as it got? I didn't even believe in it, you know. If, when Harrio was talking about music, I was talking about sports. He was talking about music. He was talking music. I was talking about sports boards. Exactly, and I had all the plugs in the music already. I already knew Dick Griffey, Older Smith. I met Barry Gordy one time. So I already had the plugs in the music. You know, Dick Griffey, he was a part of the, wasn't he part of Defro too? Did he help? He helped with it. He negotiated from what I heard and heard and read in the papers. Well, Dick told me himself that he took Shilk to an inner scope and he negotiated a contract for Shilk with inner scope. But you know, Dick was one of the first independence. Him and Older Smith was one of the first independent record people, black record people in the business. Some kind of way DLC say he was tired in there too. When Defro first became, was being born, I owned it. Mm, wow. How? Where Defro used to be, Future Shock. Future Shock was a company, Jury and I and Shilk and a guy named Dick Griffey started. And you know, all the period of time in that business space, sometimes things can get, you know, mixed up. When we interviewed him, he said, him, Dick Griffey, it was four of them as way, the way that he explained it to me. Okay, okay. Now that's excluding Harry O though, right? Cause Harry O was locked up at the time? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know Harry just got out. Correct. How's he doing? I used to do it really well for him. We didn't know Harry's a genius. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna just let you know flat out. He's a genius. The man is a genius. You know, he's one of the smartest dudes I ever saw in my life. I ever had a chance to talk to, you know, he's on the ball. Wow. And the thing is, man, like to see where you at now to open a dispensary, man, after that, did you ever think, you couldn't have thought it because you didn't know, but it's crazy that you're even dealing with it now. No way in, nobody would ever think. Well, you know, when I first started to get into the motion to get a dispensary, they didn't even wanna convict the fellas to work in dispensaries. Wow. That's how twisted this system was. This was twisted. So we had to go in and argue why convict the fellas should be allowed to work in a dispensary. Wow, that's crazy. And guess who they picked to argue? Why? Who picked me? Oh, and why was it so difficult? Like, well, for me, it was real simple, you know, but you have politicians who never smoke weed, they say, never sow weed. So they know nothing about weed. Right. But they're making decisions for the industry. They didn't understand that had it not been for the people who went to prison for selling weed, it wouldn't be legal right now. Wow. Wow. Those people made a statement. When you go to prison for that, that was literally making a statement. Like, hey, I believe in this. I believe in this enough to go to prison for it. So the people who went to prison for marijuana should be held in a highlight, especially all the people who were in the business because had those guys not made those sacrifices, it wouldn't be worse at today. It's crazy to convince them to, how did you just break down the, how did you get them convinced that it's okay for a guy who has a felony to be able to, you know. Not that it's okay. That it's absolutely necessary. Wow. That this business is not gonna survive if these guys are not allowed to participate. First of all, guys did not stop selling weed because of prison. Prison is not what stopped people from selling marijuana. No, can't do it with prison. Prison ain't stopping them from selling cocaine, crack, et cetera, I mean, they still selling all that stuff and they giving gangs a time out for it, but dudes are still out here selling it. Because they have no other way to make an income. This is what they know. They hustlers. The drug business has no selling. You don't care what color you is. You don't care about none of that. All they cares about, do you have some money? Will you take care of your business? You do those. That's all the drug business care about. I thought about you when I was on the way over. I said, have you, going in a bit, doing the things that you've done, have, did any deal ever go bad where you went in to purchase something and it didn't go right? A lot of deals. Because, you know, I mean, how many? That's what I'm saying. Like, there's crazy instances. I lost a friend like that. He got shot, you know, because the deal didn't go right because somebody tried to rob him. They came down from another state. Things from Memphis. They came to Texas and they try to, you know, they're supposed to do a deal and go back to Memphis. But when they came, they came to rob it. Right, right. And they end up killing it. But like, there has been cases like that. I know I've seen them as well in the game. I never, never got robbed. Never got robbed. That's what I was thinking about. I almost got kidnapped before. Mmm, almost got kidnapped. And, you know, I don't have people run off with millions. Correct. Millions. Millions of dollars. Millions of dollars they don't run off with. The way I looked at it is if I give it to you, then it was something I could lose. Yes, because you're fronting this, you're fronting it to them. Correct. So if you front something to them, you already got, it gotta be something that you can afford to lose. They may not give it back.