 Good morning everybody In continuation with I'm Dr. Vivek. I I'm a medical doctor. I Am from an institute called Aziza Institute of Medical Sciences. I teach human anatomy For medical students first year Now in continuation with the discussion already happening. Can we digitize medical education? We have seen the moodle being used for moodle being used for Technical courses like BE MBA MCA and also lawyers are using it mathematicians are using it bankers are using it Can we digitize? Medical education can we use any kind of LMS for making doctors? Now how many of you agree that you know we can we can we can use Moodle for or any other LMS for thank you. Thank you for the response Now medical education has got different domains One is called cognitive domain where we will be addressing more about the data and knowledge stuff The second is called psychomotor domain where the medical student will be trained How to you to you how to learn the skills of giving injection or making an IV line or operating a patient or something like that and The effective domain where the student will be taught about the sympathy the empathy characters the communication all those things now in the present form of Moodle 3.3 we may not be able to Incorporate much of psychomotor skills and assess it we may not be able to incorporate much of effective domain and Assess those things but certainly yes cognitive domain. We can use moodle for training as well as for assessment so in this regard I will be talking about my experiences of using moodle for For Making anatomy learning now why why I why I'm standing here is not many doctors are tech savvy But definitely yes when when bankers when lawyers are using moodle or LMS why can't doctors doctors is killed in everything, right? We accept ourselves as no masters for everything so What we my presentation outline is something like this I'll be talking about flip classroom study and the challenges which I faced and how moodle will be Helping us to circumvent this and how to improve the moodle experience of as I said 16 to 21 years as University of DIY portal they were making much more emphasis on the 16 to 21 years. They are much more You know device-friendly they they learn faster the equivalent quicker. They are smarter And and you just cannot expect some text to be learned by you know a student who is sitting At home or outside in the canteen and and you just cannot expect some text to be read by the student and Learn the text to myself. So the what what what is exactly flip classroom means No, we all teachers go to the class take class and we expect them to learn beyond whatever we have thought So there's a usual thing which is happening The classes will be usually didactic lectures will go on stand just like this and there'll be some something in the PowerPoint we will come we will deliver the content in the time allotted But our expectation is beyond that you know at the end of the class we expect them to do wonders Beyond whatever we have thought now in the flip-flip classroom what will happen is He will learn the core concept at his will using the videos shared By any of the platforms LMS By himself by his own motivation He will come to the class with some core core concepts Okay in the classroom whatever the time allotted about 50 minutes or 45 minutes in that duration he will be actually Integrating his core concepts learns learned with the applied Aspects of the concepts. So he is expected to integrate better in the classroom And after the classroom he is expected to to put these concepts working Okay, that's what happens in flip classroom For this study I have taken four topics for my own speciality anatomy the cranial nerves and I created the videos for learning these things and And I shared those videos in our social platform like what what's up? I'm not used LMS here And I met a what's up group of students of entire hundred students and I asked asked them to see the videos And come prepared to the class these videos were of just two to three minute duration two to three minutes I'm using the term again Just around 240 seconds or 180 seconds They were of lesser size The content clarity everything was good And I held the class flip classroom in during the classroom activity. We I divided the class into Groups of ten and I give them the assignment They have to work upon in that ten minutes and then come and present the integrated aspect of the concepts It all went well As far as my knowledge goes But and after that we have taken the the tests we have I've conducted a multiple choice question test of 25 marks and The scoring was done and the analysis was done And we can see after the flip classroom the number of students who have scored more than 16 marks out of 25 is much more than the conventional didactic lecture classes and The number of people who are past in the test were also significantly higher Out of 90 students only 96 students have taken the Participated in the study four were absent for one of the classes conducted however, however The the the initial euphoria whatever was there when I announced that okay I will be sharing a video to you in the whatsapp group The euphoria whatever was there it initially whatever initially euphoria was there. It got faded later That I hope Every one of us who are working with the moodle have met with this challenge particular challenge When when the moodle is introduced or LMS is some LMS some new thing comes in there'll be There'll be a lot of interest initially but later Later nothing nothing will happen after six months everything will stand still so that's what other speakers are also mentioning Now we can also as we'll see out of hundred students Who have who have who are there in the class? now out 83 students use smartphone the rest of the videos were seen by Blockspot, but just before the class This screenshot was taken just before the class you can still see that you know 26 students have not watched the video They have not watched the video they have not downloaded they have not seen the post nothing But still they came to the class we were we have asked actually asked everybody to fill a worksheet But all 96 students fill the worksheet Now this proved that you know the students are smarter than than what we think they might have copied the answers from other fellows Or just by using just just it was ticking ABCD or filling a word So they might have written some word or some other thing so such such thing is happening This is I'm sure the same thing will happen in moodle platform or LMS as well So in order to circumvent all these things my suggestion for moodle content developers As rightly was pointed out by one of the audience here in the earlier thing Why why universities were not using the moodle We are lacking the content which will address our students Okay, so what I want to convey from this stage is the the the text matter From our courses will not be taken In the true sense by the students now we need to involve more of interactive videos And there should be this the content of the video and the clarity of the video the clarity of the video should be Tailor made to our students requirements and there should be interactiveness and this should be integrated with the Formal assessment, so I'll be talking about this individually Videos should be tailor-made And today morning We saw many of the universities private as well as public They're using you do videos from YouTube or Khan Academy or some other places Which are tailor-made for the requirement of their students Indian scenario is different Indian scenario is Learning happens only for university exam That is the basic thing here There's no nobody self motivated to learn all those things. There's all extra things But there see my I am teaching I am taking class for first year first year medical students Our students motto is to pass first year medical exam the summative exam It will be happening after the year and that will be conducted by a university So my videos or the my content should Assist a student to pass the exam Only if if I share such videos then he is interested to look at it If at all I am showing him some 3d animation simulations all those things of course it will be There will be initial euphoria. There will be initial excitement But once he comes to know that all those 3d animations or simulations He cannot put it on the paper in the university exam That doesn't matter to him anymore So my videos should be tailor-made to my students because my classes will have specific learning objectives And those specific learning objectives, I will be writing based on the university curriculum Which are prescribed by the universities of Indian universities So I cannot be downloading some university of Illinois or some university of some other Australia or America or somewhere I cannot be asking my students to look at those videos And learn from them So the second important thing is the narration in the videos should have an Indian accent It shouldn't be having some Chinese accent or something else and we cannot expect our students I come from Kerala. In Kerala English is spoken totally differently So we need to have we need to have our content delivered to our students in the way they want Now let there be questions all along and let there be navigation disabled. So as something like Something like this The videos with navigation in a in a navigation disabled Now he cannot navigate And go to the end of the video What I've observed from student mentality is if at all A student wants to look at the video of two minutes duration two minutes duration just 120 seconds or 180 seconds Then videos should be of Of a sequence like some bollywood or hollywood movie Imagine a sequence where bahubali will be running over the elephant and killing some Alien or something now it should be the video quality should be in such a way It should be engaging in such a way that he should be able to see 120 seconds The student of today's era 1916 to 21 years They just cannot see any Non-engaging videos They they will not just see if they will see the initial five seconds If it is not engaging they'll just run to the end And if it is if it is having a message then only they will scroll through the entire thing So the most important thing what I suggest is this navigation should not be navigation should not be there Disabled and let there be Let there be questions all along All along the video like At at regular intervals 10 seconds for 20 seconds Let him click on the screen and let let it let let him take a question only after answering that The it will continue Now that is an important thing And the duration the size quality everything matters in india especially because we have a very narrow internet band And we cannot expect the HD videos to be running in all the devices Throughout the country We don't have to 4g networks everywhere So the duration the quality everything should be addressed while preparing the videos And let there be questions Let there be questions all along and something like Something like this only if he answers If he answers such kind of a thing then only the video should continue further So that is the one Then the final important thing is We need to integrate the lms with the formal assessment Unless we integrate this with the formal assessment no student is That keen in looking at the looking at these content available online So As we have rightly pointed out by other universities in the morning That the lms will run parallel to the active learning whatever happening in the in the curriculum regular curriculum Now if at all we have An integration somewhere then only all students will be on board and everybody will look at the content delivered Finally I want to tell anything which is not assessed is not learned learned Now assessment in india is only university exams. So better to us better to link these LMS learning with the university assessment systems Then only everybody will take an active participation in lms Or the final take-home message conclusion is we need to have tailor made videos And we need to have interactive videos and we need to integrate these lms with the assessment Only then our content will reach every student. Otherwise, it will be a just a as as madame was telling It's a lip service by the universities. Thank you very much No, what I what I understand you're saying is That students are not really interested in learning. They are interested in just passing the exam In that case, I think moodle is not going to help Right that is true, sir. That is correct. As you said moodle is totally based on self-motivated learning So it's not for those students who wants to pass the exam As you are saying rightly Hello, sir. So question I totally agree with you about the interactive videos How is that related to the flip classroom? The flip classroom From what I understand is a face-to-face Activity which also brings up a question I had for the previous presenter How do you do blended learning on the lms system if you want to squeeze in that answer? Feel free to do that as well. But so Getting back To the original question How is the interactive video related to the flip classroom? And I guess a related question is how do you how do you Construct a flip classroom online So this what I've what I've done is I have conducted a flip classroom shared the videos, you know, what's up No This is before they come to the face-to-face classroom before they come to the face-to-face It was shared potato was before the classroom activity and We can use moodle for such kind of sharing And moodle brings about much much interactivity among during active learning during the learning So wait wait doing the face-to-face Face-to-face will happen in the classroom How do you use moodle in the face-to-face? Not not during the classroom activity. It can be used before the classroom. I see I see for for sharing the videos And once we put the videos in the in the flip classroom in the moodle and make it interactive Then there will be active learning. He will learn the concepts before the class and during the class. There will be much more integrated learning That's what I want to tell you. I see. Okay. Thanks for that Okay Actually, it is I'll this tip classroom can be possible for the school level also and I'm trying for that And I'm successful in implementing few of the things not all We can have any interactive videos and put it into the course module itself And as they log in We can know that either they are seen or not and based on that we'll be having the question So ultimately flip to classroom can be available anywhere and moodle will help you only to assess it It will not be possible within the classroom. Yes, sir And it's not only for higher classes even for the schools. It is possible and retaining Span of the students has to be considered For engaging how we can engage that is the most challenge Every educator is facing and that has to be addressed based on the Skills which we can have how we can make it more interactive and more engaging. That is the challenge Exactly sir engaging learning engaged learning is an is a challenge That's before the class. Hello. So here here at the back. So my name is nazi shake and I am a test engineer by profession and I teach state board student ssc students So I have gone through this Khan Academy A website and have Gone through the courses also. So what they have they have a youtube videos and they have a quiz Like so what you said that we have to prepare a video where One something is explained and we put up a Question and once they answer the next video should be played So how do you how we can achieve this because I have been Creating videos in youtube for for max and science So how how exactly it is done? So if you can explain in a short No, in moodle. We have a plugin called h5p Using h5p. You can make interactiveness. You can use a youtube video and Create interactiveness there. So Just repeat it once h5p plugin h5. Okay. Thank you. Hello. Hi Over here. Yeah, I'm dan. I work in a School I'm the digital coordinator. So I have this wonderful task of figuring out which lms to implement And we are exploring moodle, right? The problem for me as a digital person has always been I am yet to see Digitization of education Really elevating education in the classroom All the presentations today have been Good, but We are only taking what is existing offline to the online space For example, we were talking about narrative videos. I believe Where normally a teacher might talk we have a video explanation with a teacher Recording narration. Now. I'm not saying that's bad. I'm saying that's Just making what's offline online Can you because you have experience Can you tell us if there is a possibility at all of doing something different? I mean technology is So vast so brilliant Are we is this all we can do with moodle or with any lms? With moodle we can do much more but but basically depends on the content What you have to offer You just cannot take some youtube video or other videos which are made for some other purpose And use it in the Indian scenario Indian in the Indian context So you need to create such kind of an engaging content first Then you can use moodle for anything For for the delivery and for the assessment Yeah, can I Some of the questions that have been raised here. I Teach creativity using moodle Now I think that would be as tough as teaching medicine I have found that if you can structure Knowledge you can disseminate it easily And again when it comes to where you talk spoke about Assessment and tying it with university assessment. I think there are ways around it I I do the assessment Using batches and people like to show off badges, especially if they can share it on social media So that's motivation rather than assessment. I think Which should be your key factor, you know in being able to Be proud of your achievements and get recognition for it. That is a much better than saying, you know I've passed this exam and therefore it's good enough. I think being able to share it at the end with the open badges Moodle integration, it's fantastic I truly agree with you. So the motivation should be should be the driving force It's not a university degree or certificate. It's one more very quick answer to what he raised. I mean I worked on learning systems right from 2001 where we created our own system using javascript and stuff like that You can you can take offline Knowledge or lessons Converted into interesting stuff, you know using animation and vector graphics Make it very interesting and it's being proven again and again today by juice the mobile app is Going through the roof So it's not just taking, you know brochure where I'm putting it on the net So the immense possibilities you just need to explore a bit more. Yes. Thank you. I don't want to make any question I only want to tell you that all the things that you were saying about the video And that you have steps so the people are engaged step by step. There is an app called ed puzzle The ed puzzle Is so you put any video your video any video that is on the net And then you have an access to make three times three kinds of questions And make your own video and then you can embed it in Moodle So it's a great tool that I for all educators I have been teaching spanish for 14 years and now five years online with Moodle So to embed your own video this app ed puzzle is Exactly what you are saying And I am working out in ivy school and this is the way to engage the students because they all know more than me I am 50s and so sometimes I learn from them. They are giving me the apps. Thank you. Thank you So one just uh, there's no question here In our units, I'm from the ui part of the university again. Uh in our university. We also have mbbs pds physiotherapy all the health sciences similar problems But there are Companies in india that are focused on just developing content as per mci guidelines Uh, I don't want to advertise their names here, but there are companies which is hiring doctors Who are speaking at the back and the lectures are in a 3d animation So i'm not a doctor. You are so anatomy. So they'll go one layer of skin second layer and the doctor is As per mci curriculum. So there are companies doing that and we're already talking to them so that they can share it on our lms So there can't be anything replacing Practical teaching for a doctor, but at least somewhere you can go It is difficult to get uh moodle into the medical education, but cognitive domain. Yes, definitely can be uh integrated Thank you. Thank you very much