 It was difficult when you were off the road, wasn't it? If you had any, um, like, uh, action? Yeah, damage to the cab. That would be quite hard, wouldn't it? Well then, what their argument was that you could go and hire another taxi from the garage. But there were so, I can't say, uh, po-cards that you didn't, you rather have the time off. Yeah. I mean, you didn't get paid for holidays or anything like that, bang holidays. But we all survived somehow. Yeah, yeah. And would you pay like a, like an annual fee to the radio circuit? Or is it like a... Monthly. And that was the same whether you did lots of work or... Yeah. That probably wins out. Yeah, that's right. So that's quite a big overhead then, or it was an overhead. Yeah, but I used to enjoy the radio, I think. If I hadn't had the radio, I might have checked the job in a long, long time ago. It just made it more interesting. Yeah. And you get to know the customers, the customers get to know you. And it just, yeah, I was just pleasant. We used to love doing those jobs. Yeah. One of those sort of, these kids who were supposed to be a bit loopy, we were picking up from one school and the fella in the back was about 13, 14, and he gets out and he's chatting to me. He's leaned over and taken my watch. And the watch is gone. You've got it. Did you suck it? Yeah. Without you noticing? Hardly. It was so fast. I mean, it was an August one, which I always keep because of bashing it. I mean, he's giving it back. I thought, well, this is, if you can do that quickly, and you've got a £10,000 Rolex on there. Yeah. It would have been gone. Yeah, yeah. That's why I've never, never would have an expensive watch. Yeah. And this kid's supposed to be loopy. Yeah, yeah. He used to have a money bag. Yes. Well, it's what everyone had. Yeah. I used to have it tucked down by the seats and his petition. But I've had a couple of, at Waterloo, a couple of drug addicts who we've got a lot, mate, and they're leaning in there and they're looking for it. It makes you a bit more street-wise. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you ever did it? You know, did you have people who'd run at the end of the fair or? Yeah, I've had it. Well, mainly it's the hours working. Because working days and first and not very, very, well, a couple of times, someone wait for me. And I just drive off, I wipe the face a couple of times like that. But you prefer doing early mornings and days rather than nights? Yes. Because of that, yeah. And being on the radio, it guaranteed your money. And how the radio's gone? Or dialogue has? It's gone, yes. No, I've not seen any mention of it, no coverage of it anywhere. The radio circuit, under building, they got what, in the 80s? Early 80s, probably? Just off City Road? No, we got that in about 1998, I think it was. Yeah. And the value of it went so high? No, this one was, oh, I don't know what it is. But we sold it then, because we needed bigger premises. But this one is City Road. And then, of course, that was before Hull Street Roundabout, what they call it, Silicon Roundabout, and then it was just luck being in the right place. Yeah. Of course, everyone sort of moved in there. Yeah. It's a bit like the housing in central London, if you're lucky to buy one years and years ago, and it was just lucky that it's all gone up. So the radio circuit cooperative all jointly owned this property that was just getting insane amounts of money being offered to it. There was better to disband and split the profit. Yeah. And then fold dial a cab into... Just wind it up. Yeah. Or they wind it up and join these other two circuits. Oh, thanks. Well, I hope it's... Yeah, no, it's just the basics of how you get a badge and how, you know, what it was like back then. Did you ever forget to turn your orange light on? You know, so if you're driving around... Lots of times. I think it is no work. Yeah. And I wasn't the only one to do it. Do you ever have anyone fight over who got you first? I've had it once in Bond Street. I haven't picked a woman up. Another woman came running over to me and said, I saw you first. I don't really know. And you always said you'll always whoever gets in first, the one you get to. I mean... Like musical chairs. As I say, I should have had this... this book. Writing book and write all these things down. No, this is brilliant. This is absolutely... That's brilliant. Thank you. Because now when I get asked these really basic questions about the history of being a cabbie, now I know. That's funny about their King's Cross place. I didn't realise that they'd split up. More or less, that's why I like that. It's not until I've actually stopped and noticed how much King's Cross has played in my life. I mean, even St Pancras, underneath there, I used to have all my taxi work done by Brian. Oh, yeah, in the arches... Yeah, underneath the arches there. Before they knocked them down for the Eurostar. Yeah. It was in Prime Suspect, wasn't it? It all ended in the arches. That was the arches where you used to get your cab fixed. In Prime Sunset, they were the ones by the church. Oh, right, so it's further down. So they weren't out of the way down here. By the way, you sat me electrical work down there. This actually went in underneath St Pancras, where one brewery used to put all their barrels in there, so they said. Yeah. That's where you used to get your cab fixed. Yeah, and there used to be a cafe there. A lot of the fellas used. I didn't use it because I only lived up the road. Was it on the Midland Roadside, or the Bedford Road? I can't remember. You used to went in by... Well, you know, you've got King's Cross there, and you just went across the road into the arches. Yeah. Oh, the battery's gone. That's it. Yeah, and of course I went to school in King's Cross when we first moved down to London. I actually used to give the fella a couple of... I don't know. A couple of shillings or something. Because if your battery blew up or didn't work, you're off to work for a day, but you've got it changed. So you used to top up your battery? Battery, yeah, and water. And oil. Oh, that's right. The three things they used to check for you. So you used to... You would just say you fill up with diesel about once every two days. Yeah, when I finished work. And you'd always get that done in King's Cross? Yeah. In York Way? Yeah, quite a lot of fellas, we all did that because we lived there. And when they're filling up, they check your oil and battery? Yeah, and didn't overspill the diesel, so they all went down the side of the cab and saved you doing that. I never knew what it was called... Well, I know it now, but it was always called DERV in there. Which is, is that because it's diesel engine, something vehicle? No, it's just DERV. It's diesel, it's just sort of a nickname for it. You only get another third or a nice... It was just not quiet and simple times. People didn't have £200,000 more, which is a cab, rather than a brand-new cab that you're playing fortunes for. Yeah. You can relax a bit. That's why some of the fellas used to get up so tight they owed so much money. What, in the... Later on? Later on, yeah. Like in the 80s? No, no later on. I've said more in the 90s. Can you please help my daddy get 1,000 subscribers? Just click on his face. Thanks! Bye!