 Welcome, everyone, and welcome to Progressive Discussions Hard-Hitting Truth. I'm your host, James P. McDonald, and I'm with my co-host, the one and only Alex the Beer Master. How are you, sir? Two Jersey guys. That's what makes it fun, actually. Two New Jersey guys. Yeah, I was watching some videos of a turtle sanctuary, a turtle farm, too, called Garden State Tortoise, and they got some interesting videos on YouTube where they show not only how to take care of every turtle imaginable, but how to, they discuss saving threatened and endangered species, and New Jersey's got some wonderful wildlife. They got a wide array of wildlife here, and there are, unfortunately, because of habitat destruction, with the building of homes, and retail businesses, and then with pollution, these poor animals, whether they be reptiles, amphibians, or whatever, they have to keep on moving to survive. They've got to relocate themselves, and then there's over-harvesting by greed. It's like a fisherman. When I used to work with seafood, I noticed a little too many female crabs in the basket with eggs underneath, and I go, hey, they're supposed to throw these females back, the ones with eggs. It's against the law to take them, because that's how the species continues. The females become gravid. They lay eggs, the eggs are fertilized, they lay them, and that's how the species continues. But if you keep on, it's like a checking account. If you keep on debiting from your checking account, and you don't credit, eventually your checking account becomes all zeros, and the same thing with God's creatures, with Mother Nature. So now you've got me thinking now. So when you make money, and it has nothing to do with that physically, but it makes me think, so when you decide not to, if I don't remember my PIN number, and I do credit instead, that means I won't lose money. Is that what you're saying? Even though I'm taking money on my account? If you keep taking money out, and you don't put anything in, you'll lose. The money has no alternative, but for the money to go lower and lower until you have no money left. Right. Well, that could happen. Yeah, if you don't put money in. In the case of hunters and fishermen, if they over harvest, and they get greedy, and they start taking small, young animals or fish instead of waiting for them, having a size limit, they start taking small ones, the females with eggs, that is going to cause the species to become threatened and then endangered. Or extinct. And God forbid extinct. You know, and they're only hurting themselves. Like, you know, like commercial crabbers and commercial fishermen are only hurting themselves by doing that. You know, but through that, through that, because they're going to ruin their own business if they don't, yeah. Right. All right. Let me, seven lucky bells. All right. Okay. Now, show us the wonderful stout or porter or craft beer that you brought on. And then after me, legendary James will show what he has to do. Well, I don't, I'm saving it for the Wednesday. Oh, okay. Yeah, I'm going to do it right now. I'm not talking about Wednesday, I'm talking about that. I mean, I could go get the hard liquor, you know, that's not for the show. But anyway, let me, let me blow you up here. We can still have a little fun with it, like we always do, legendary James. So basically, James is the host of this show. And he's, you know, he's been doing this for a while. But now we're going to be, well, this show, this new show has been going for the past couple of weeks. It comes to me and James. But today, I'm revealing black rock stout. And it is from That looks good, man. I think it's two, not two rows. Crossroads brewing. Crossroads brewing. I think the legendary James probably can get this. I think, I think this is New Jersey. I'm not really sure what I think it is. I don't know if you can look it up real quick, James, but I'm not sure. But I think Crossroad brewing is New Jersey or Pennsylvania, one of those two. So it's good beer? Crossword? Crossroads, I think it is. Black magic stout? No, here. Black rock. Okay, got you. Black rock stop. So that's what I'm drinking. And I'm going to show you what it looks like. Right. Oh, yeah. I love a good stout. Look at it. Yeah, that's beautiful. It's like espresso coffee, the color. Cheers. It's very flavorable. Very chocolate. I give it a, I gave this beer, like I said on the other show, a 90. I can't give it a 90 now because I taste it more and more. So it's pretty good. So if we can get it, please do. Oh, yeah. Excellent. Excellent. I really love the stout. I brought on a wildcard Wednesday from Dogfish Head Brew. Yeah, it was there. It was called Worldwide Stout. I think you did bring it. The AVB was up there. It was definitely up there, at least 15% or more. And it was excellent. I just brought some hard liquor. Not that I'm drinking it now. I'm drinking water with apple cider vinegar, but let me inflate myself. Here I got Black Cat Golden Rum. Extra smooth from Suriname, South America, which is by Guiana and Venezuela. And it's an excellent, strong, smooth rum. All right. Black Cat, one of the best I've ever had. I still think Bucardi Black is the best bang for the buck for the money and Cruzan. Cruzan rum from the Virgin Islands. I think Cruzan is by far the best bang for the buck in rum. All right, for the money. So anyway, are you going to pour that up? I'm going to sip on that. You know what? You know what? Talk to the folks a little bit about the food that you presented Friday. And you want to talk more about your beer, because I got to go get something real quick. Okay. So let's do James. We'll be back in the next few minutes. Basically, last night or no, Saturday night. No, Friday night. I did Beggo Bites and I did Beggo Bites. It was like pepperoni and really good stuff. Next Friday will be donuts and beer. If you want to bring a donut beer, please do. If you want to bring a stout, you can do that as well. Because sometimes, you know, you might not have to find a donut beer. So that's why I'm throwing that out there, too, as well. Because you don't know where you can find a donut beer. Now, Evo Torre and I heard has a donut beer, but I'll have to see if I can find that. But until then, yeah, I think Gabriel Sola has mentioned that there's a Dunkin' Donuts craft beer now. There is, but that's a pumpkin I have at my sister's. I won't be drinking pumpkin. That's not really a stout to me. I'm going to try to get a donut beer. But there is a Dunkin' order and if I can find that, I'll bring that because that's close enough. All right. I got here my favorite shot glass, of course. All right. What I like is that the pirate, the Bikini top is wearing off. So soon it will become a topless shot glass. You could probably get it fixed there, James. You could probably get the glass fixed so it can last. No, no, no. The glass is fine. I can feel there's nipples on there. Oh, yeah. And it's big breasted, which is nice. And it'll be topless. Why would I want to put another Bikini top back on a topless shot glass? I'm going to taste the Black Cat extra smooth rum. All right. Who's that for? I'm Serename South American. It can definitely smell. The molasses are very full, full flavored. It is very smooth. So it must have been aged sufficiently. Mmm. Very strong flavor. And with a slight sweetness from the molasses, but it's very smooth. And it's probably what they call Agnejo, which is an extra aged rum. So I like it very much. And for you folks that are wondering, they're taking a peek at the show after it started. It's Black Cat, Black Cat rum from Serename South America. Nina, hold on. Who? Nina Yordi from Rhode Island. Hello, Nina. Full front. I'm on the panel, Nina. Come on. I haven't seen you in a while. Now, I don't have any full frontal shot glass. I got, it's a female full front, not full frontal, partial frontal. If I show full frontal, YouTube will pull my, well, they wouldn't pull my, no, I didn't mean it that way. YouTube would pull my video. Yes. But other people might be thinking, but anyway, all right, we're going to get to the topic here. Okay. Now, in the last show, we discussed how the CEOs of social media have been unfairly applying corporate fascist censorship, censorship on people for just giving their various opinions about different topics, maybe commentary underneath certain articles or videos and what happened. Okay. And they would punish those that do that occasionally by putting them in prison by blocking them from having the typical member privileges, they can't comment, they can't upload anything, they can't do, whether it be seven days, whether it be 30 days, whatever, two weeks. And it's, you know, meanwhile, social media doesn't look at what they do, which is sell your personal information to others, to companies and bombard you with spam. Okay. Which happens on my phone. It's a good thing my Android tells me when I'm getting a spam call or it'll say fraud, potential fraud, or it'll say telemarketer, it'll actually tell me what it is. Except for those that are using local phone numbers. See, that's the new sneaky thing that scammers do. They'll use local phone numbers so it doesn't come up on your phone. The warning doesn't come up as spam. Well, it'll come up as a regular phone number and you figure maybe it's somebody calling you. Right, right. So people like CEO, particularly Mark Zuckerberg, a Facebook CEO of Twitter, and now YouTube is getting into this censorship. They don't see what they do to the members and they use the fact that the members are getting, being able to use social media for free. They feel that that's an excuse to be above the law, above the First Amendment of the Constitution and any rights of free speech. But not looking at what they do. Now, in terms of politics, Republicans, when they had control of the Senate and then before that, when they had control of the Congress or whatever, whatever combination, Congress, Senate, White House, they look at what progressives and Democrats do under a microscope. Just like when Bill Clinton had that little personal thing with Monica Lewinsky, they right away, they wanted to impeach him for that. Yeah, but they never did. He's still state president until 2001. Meanwhile, Donald Trump is guilty of treason and constantly lying and using the presidency for personal gain with his business, his family business, but they don't look at that. So they're hypocrites. But what they'll do is they want to censor progressives from putting the real truth on social media and they attempted it. But judges said no. They wanted to remove anyone that was criticizing what they're doing or what they're saying and just revealing the truth about what's going on with the greedy oligarch control capitalists, the right-wingers and the establishment Democrats that are, they call themselves moderate Democrats or right-wing Democrats. They're in bed with the oligarch. They're getting paid off. So they're hypocritical. It's total hypocrisy. What they're doing. So they want to censor anyone who criticizes them or exposes them. Okay, but they do not want to be censored, criticized and exposed, but they want to do it to you. So it's all a power game, Alex. Yeah, but I heard that Facebook is getting sued anyway, so we should be okay now. Well, yeah, but he's still throwing people in Facebook prison. I mean, he put me for seven days last week. I don't know. He probably won't be in charge for long. If he loses his battle, if he loses his battle, but if he wins the battle, he'll still be in charge. Yeah, well, what he fails to realize is that your opinion, even though he owns Facebook, your opinion is sure. You okay? Yeah, wrong pipe. Your opinion is your personal property. Just because he owns Facebook, that doesn't mean he's above the law, above the constitution. Same thing with Twitter. See, anything with YouTube, YouTube, Google, they're not above the law. But from a political standpoint, the Republicans have done it. They look at you under a microscope. Every little thing you do, you got to walk on eggshells. They want to censor you for revealing the truth, but they don't want to be censored when they're lying and they're pulling underhanded tactics. So it's a power game. You know, it's like some people play, they play the race card or they play the gender card. The lesbian feminists play the gender card, you know, which means you're playing the victim in order to gain power. So certain groups of people, they use homophobic or, you know, if immigrants are here illegally and you criticize them, they'll say xenophobic, xenophobic or misogynist that they're, you know, a feminist and you happen to mention something that's true. You know, any group, any lobbying group should not get special treatment because no one is really better than anyone else or they shouldn't be better than anyone else. But they want special treatment. So they lay a guilt trip on everybody and they play the card and they try to make you feel bad, especially if you're a Caucasian male. Everything is our fault. In this day and age, everything's our fault. If Mount Saint Helens volcano shoots off a little lava, it's our fault. So this is, you know, this is the unfairness in this chaotic society, we're living in it. The world's chaotic, depending on where you are. Right. Yeah, I mean, I mean, in countries like, like Saudi Arabia, bombing Yemen and killing civilian women and children, you know, innocent civilians, they, though they call it collateral damage, but they're really, they're really murdering women and children. I mean, it could be any part of the world that's chaotic. It could be North Korea, killing, assassinating 80 people in front of a firing squad, practicing Christianity. Just for worshiping God and the Christian religion, they were put to death. You know, that's crazy. And this is the murderous dictator that Donald Trump says that we're good friends now, we have a love affair. You know, I mean, are you saying Donald Trump has put the dictator as a friendship now? Yeah, well, he always said that when he was president, this is a guy that puts people to death for anything. Anything he doesn't like, same thing, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, that's another murderous, autocrat, despotic country, right wing extremism. Is Joe Biden being friends with them? No, no, so we're good. Oh, no, no, no, no, not Joe Biden. Yeah, he's still an establishment moderate Democrat. He's he's not a progressive. He, he pretends to be progressive because he wanted to get a lot of Bernie Sanders supporters to vote for him. But he's, he's a businessman. He's still a moderate. Joe Biden? I didn't see him as a businessman. It's like Hillary Clinton. They're moderates, you know, but he is, he's moved more to the left. He's moved more to the left than he ever was before. Wow. I mean, any people can change, you know, they can change for the better and they can change for the worse. What about Joe Biden? Do you think he's changed for the better or for the worse? No, no, that's what I said. I think he, he moved more to the left. He changed for the better. I think he did because because I heard the user supposed to close down the country. He never did. Never. Because he said, that's what I heard. I didn't hear from Mitch McConnell, you know, when the Republicans had control of the Senate, you know, they wanted to close down the country, you know, they're, they're not in favor of course, they're never in favor of raising the minimum wage. No, they want to close down the country because of the, the C word. What, coronavirus? Yeah. I just didn't want to say it because I didn't want to cause problems. Well, I'm very happy. I'm very happy that the FDA finally approved the Johnson & Johnson single vaccine. You only, you don't need to, you get one shot. It's not as effective as the Pfizer and the Moderna vaccine, but it's good. Yeah, but I rather, I rather get that than, than the one that's not so good, you know, I want to get really awesome, you know. I'm, yeah, they're still good in their own way. No, they, you know, it's still the percentage, the percentage of success is still at a decent level. I mean, it's not, it's not mediocre. It's not ineffective. It's, it's, it's very effective and, and, and it just needs regular refrigeration and it's a one shot. You don't have to get two. It's a one shot vaccine, boy. It's not, it's, it's high, but it's not as high as Moderna. I mean, As Moderna and as, as advisor, right? And, and, and Pfizer. I rather get the Moderna. I mean, go Biden, Kamala Harris, and Dr. Fauci, they all got the Moderna. And you know what? They never, as far as I know, they've never had any hives. I mean, some of these, some people are going to get hives. Don't get me wrong. Okay. I don't want to be a jerk, but some people are going to get those hives. It already depends on what, what is learning. You know what they got? And it doesn't happen often. When they get the second shot, it doesn't happen often. You're right. Go ahead. They experience for one or two days, arm, arm pain, shoulder pain, whatever the injection is put in. They feel some pain. They might, they might get like a low grade fever. They might get a rash too, legendary James, but it goes. We see that, but then it dissipates after one or two days. And then it's gone. You see, they don't get, they don't get, they don't get mild or moderate COVID-19 symptoms. They don't get that. They just get a little bit of symptoms. And then after one or two days, it's gone. It's still COVID, it's still COVID symptoms, but it's just with the vaccine. It's not COVID. You're not getting a live virus. You're, you're not getting a live virus. You can't catch COVID-19 from the vaccine. You know, you're basically getting a dead COVID-19 virus. Well, not with the Pfizer Moderna, with the other ones. I think with Johnson, it's a different type of vaccine, Pfizer and Moderna, the funky called Moderna. The different science. It doesn't utilize the dead virus to get your immune system, your antibodies to recognize it. It's a different scientific process of getting your body's immune system to recognize the COVID-19 virus. Okay. It's not, it's not like, before that, all, all vaccines were based on a dead, a perfect, perfectly intact dead virus. Well, what is about this one? There's no dead virus in these vaccines? Well, I think Johnson and Johnson is based on the old, the old fashioned, the dead virus, the replica of the dead virus. The replica of COVID-19, that's dead. Yeah, the first two, you know, I mean, I'm not an infectious disease scientist, but I, I do know, I do have a good layman's knowledge base on what's going on. And I know the science is different, but all roads lead to Rome. You know, they, they're all, they're all, they're all effective. Now they're developing a booster shot just in case these mutations, these COVID-19 variants, just in case one of the variants is sort of giving vaccinated people problems, they're coming out with a a third booster shot. So we have three booster shots. So we have three booster shots. Yeah. So another word, let's say you get, you get Moderna. That's two, that's two shots. All right. Okay. You get your two shots. You feel great. Other people are getting vaccinated. They feel great. So now eventually, let's say by the end of December of 2021, you start seeing people with no masks, you know, people, the restaurants are opened up again. You know, this, this, you see less people with masks on. So, okay. So that means a lot of people getting vaccinated. So they come out with a third with a booster shot, just in case one of the mutations starts to cause some symptoms in vaccinated people. So then they can go get this booster shot and stop it from getting worse as well. And then nip it in the bud and, and, and just stop it then in its tracks. Now, are they going to keep doing booster shots as the year goes on until this COVID just appears? Or the, I mean, maybe they should have a five or six vaccine, five or six, booster shot as well. But I guess they're going to based on how quick they stop. I don't, it's not going to require another booster shot. Just, just one booster shot. So you just had just three booster shots free. You just said there's free. No, no, no, no, what I'm saying, they're not the first, the first shots are not booster shots. They're, those are the, that's the initial vaccine. Right. That's the original, right? Right. So if you get Pfizer or Moderna, that's two shots of the vaccine. Or if you get Johnson and Johnson, there's one shot, one, right, regardless. Now the booster is like a bonus plan, but a bonus shot. Okay. But it's only if it, only if you need to get the booster shot. You might not ever need to get the booster shot. But at least they have it for the next coronavirus outbreak. Because you know, viruses, viruses always mutate. Yeah, but that's been going on for hundreds of years. They only mutate if they can replicate. If you, if you, if you cause, if you stop it from replicating, which spreading, if you stop it from spreading by having people follow the rules, sanitize their hands, wear masks, distancing for a little bit, then the virus has nowhere else to go. So it, it dies. So once you, if you stop it from spreading, there's no replication. Therefore, there's no mutation. But once we go back to the normal, and I don't say new normal or normal, when we, once we go back to normal, like we were before, are you saying that we still need to be careful even when we go back to normal? We still need to make sure these viruses don't get mutated, but all viruses get mutated no matter what we, where we slice. Well, I'm sorry, but that's the truth. They mutate. Now, we, the human race has dealt with other terrible pandemics in the past. Yes. From 1917 to I'm sorry, 1918. We keep on screwing up on the, the 1918 Spanish flu. And then you had like the bubonic plague from the Middle Ages. You had like cholera, smallpox, yellow fever and all that stuff. And then you also have AIDS in 1981. Right. And there was a tuberculosis, which I believe is a bacterial infection. But just like COVID, just like COVID. Right. And then you got, you had the polio. You have polio, which is a crippling, debilitating disease. And they came out with a vaccine. But the thing is that in all the pandemics, I mean, unfortunately, after a tremendous amount of people lost their lives, astronomical, eventually herd immunity was achieved. Now it's going to be achieved this time with vaccines and herd immunity. Right. Yeah. Well, there's, you know, there's other, other, other pandemics achieved herd immunity with vaccines too. But they were, they were vaccines that took many years to develop. Right. But these vaccines didn't, which I'm surprised. Yeah. Because the government told, had these scientists work around the clock. This was, this was, um, uh, this was a priority. Let's put it that way. Right. So basically after this COVID thing goes away, if there's other, uh, disasters, they might not have to go around the clock unless you find a, a virus that's similar to COVID-19. Exactly. Exactly. Let me check, uh, yeah, I'm really surprised that because Tom Mobile was really, really enthusiastic and gun-ho about being on a show. I'm really surprised he, he says, I'm in, count me in. That's what he told me. He says, I don't know why he's not here. He's supposed to be there. He said that to me once before about a beer review, uh, show. And he says, I'm in, count me in. And then he, you know, I sent him the link. He never showed up. So when he says, he's done this before, this is nothing new to you. All right. Now this is the second time he said, count me in. And he didn't, and, uh, he didn't show up. Uh, I just want to check something. Uh, uh, So how do you feel that possibly going back to the new, no, going back to normal couple months from now or a year from now? No, not a couple months. No, no, it's, it's, I, I say, I say, I say the word normal will be coming out of the rabbit holes to say hi or the top hat and the cane and start dancing. I'd say that'll happen by autumn. I'd say it's, it's possible by autumn or the 2021 that, you know, that people that herd immunity will start to become established. Yeah, but that's because of vaccines now, not just because of us. No, no, listen, these, these right wing, these right wing rednecks, rebellious rednecks. They keep on saying that no vaccine, the vaccine is, is bad. The new world order wants to kill us with the vaccine. There's a chip. They want to put a microchip in us with the vaccine. They believe all the crazy conspiracy theories. They say herd immunity with no vaccine. And this is the problem I had with, uh, with, uh, with Damien Owens. He says, Oh, the vaccine is, um, is a, is an evil new world order scheme, uh, diabolical scheme. Hi. And he says, we need herd immunity. We need to let me ask you this. I hate to say this to Owens, Mr. Owens. If he's watching, I hate to say this, but you know what? There's other vaccines. Are you saying those vaccines are new world order too? Yeah, makes me wonder. Is that what you're thinking about? The other vaccines too? That's been going on for decades. Please let me know, James. We've had vaccines for decades. Uh, uh, the other vaccines didn't have, we're not, we're not, uh, ways to poison the population to kill us off. Or at least people weren't saying that. Oh, this is a new world order. They're saying it now because all the nuts that are able to post their, their garbage on social media, right? They didn't have social media back then. Oh, so they might have been thinking, Oh, it's new world order, but they couldn't say it out loud because it wasn't, there was no social media like stream yard or Facebook or there was a need for it. Let's put it that way. Nobody wants to see their kid have polio and be crippled for life. All right. Okay. So, okay. That's Franklin D. Roosevelt. President Roosevelt was in a wheelchair with polio, post polio syndrome. That's true. Nobody wants to see their loved ones die from smallpox or, that's true, yellow fever, cholera, whatever. Right. All right. So, you know, you don't have the thoughts of an evil new world order plan to, to, to control us or, or wipe us up. That doesn't come into your head when your loved ones are on their death bed and, you know, they're sick. You, you, you want to save the lives of your loved ones that you want to save your own life. So, you know, all this mumbo jumbo doesn't come into play when you're dealing with your health, your own self, your own situation. Yeah. And your, your family, you know, you just want to, you want to, you want to, you want to save your life. You want to save your family's life. That's what you think about. But only crazy people have time to think of conspiracy theories and not even worry about, worry about saving their own neck. Do you believe, and I want your opinion, James, do you believe that these vaccines are, are in new world order? It can't be because they cannot be because they had been having vaccines for decades. You know how many times they, they've been interviewing Bill Gates and I don't know about times. No, recently they keep interviewing him and asking him, are you, you really putting a microchip in the vaccines? And he starts laughing and he says, of course not. You know, I want, I want to save our, I want to save our population. Do you think, do you think he's doing that? Well, the fact, let's put it this way, that the COVID-19 numbers are rapidly decreasing as, as the vaccines are increasing. So the numbers, the curve is getting lower. But that's what we want. Right. So, so there's a correlation between the vaccines getting out there into the arms of people and that curve coming down, that, that COVID-19 number coming down. So it's doing this, vaccinations up, up, up COVID, COVID numbers going way down. If it was poor, if it was poisonous, the vaccines, that wouldn't be happening. If they were, if they were toxic. Okay. I agree with you on that one, James. It wouldn't be working. You're right. Because what you would see is the vaccines coming up, but you'll also be seeing COVID-19, back, COVID-19 cases going up as well, along with the people dying from the vaccines. You're right. You're correct on that, my friend. Right? Or I'm wrong about that. Please tell me if I'm saying that. You're right. You're right. You know, you have a, you show a lot of common sense. Yeah. Let me do something here. It's going to feel weird to go back to the old normal, but I'm back to normal. But you know what? We deserve it, legendary James. We really do. Well, nice people deserve it, but most Americans are not nice. They're crazy. They're, they're, they're imbeciles and they're lunatics. Maybe those people go to jail when they go back to normal. I don't like the people that, that wanted to kill U.S. congressmen and congresswomen on, on January 6th. Okay. Those people, I don't, I don't wish them any, any good fortune. Let's put it that way. Well, they were trying, according to you, they were trying to kill, meaning they were trying to go to the Capitol and kill everybody. Basically, I didn't hear that until you said that. They had, they had, they had a mission to, to, to kill certain senators and all those people. Yeah. Yeah. Congress people, they had specific people in mind. And I want your opinion, James. Yeah. Do you believe that they were waving people in and you believe it was Donald Trump that told them to do that? I don't believe that, but I want your opinion if it is. Let me tell you, there, there are certain Republican far right wing Trump supporting conspiracy theory nuts that are in Congress now that gave tours of the cap, of the Capitol building. Prior to the election. So people with red MAGA hats, they were seeing, they were seeing given tours that of the people with the red hats wanted to know where everyone's office was. And they got a grand tour by these Republican congressmen called Congresswomen. Now, why, why on earth would they do a treasonous thing like that with a bunch of lunatics if they weren't that they didn't have the same mindset as the Trump pan Z MAGA supporter. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. Like I said, if you don't like Trump or you don't like Joe Biden, there's no reason to cause a disaster at the cap. There really isn't. It's just being baby now. Right. If Joe Biden won the Trump one, there's no need to do all that craziness because all you're going to do, I think someone died during that incident. A couple of people died doing a crap. And I think let me, I mean, I don't know if that's true or not, but I think I heard, but it's still wrong. I don't care. It shouldn't be that way. Well, you're talking about insane. You're talking about trespassing on federal property with the even though, even though the even though the senators, whoever it was that invited you in, you still did wrong that day, basically. Well, they had they had an intent to commit premeditated murder. Yeah, they trespass on federal property with the intent to murder congressmen and congressmen and congresswomen just because they don't believe in the same beliefs. They kept on shouting hang Mike Pence, the vice president hang Mike Pence. They kept shouting that because they felt that Mike Pence wasn't doing right. But whatever, they went there with the intent to harm him and they also vandalized federal property. They smashed doors and windows. Okay. They smashed doors and windows. And the yes, basically a premeditated murder and the and the attempt to change. No, no, let me talk. Go the attempt to change an honest election. All right. No, the attempt to change an honest election. Right. So the the election was certified to be an honest election. And they wanted they it was a coup. And they were by force, they wanted to sabotage. That's the word I was looking for sabotage an honest election. So that is pretty much what happened. So, you know, you have the hypocrisy of people that like a child taking a tantrum, people that want their own way, they want to get their own way. And if you if you tell the truth about them, they want to censor you. But they don't want to be censored when they're lying. And obviously, the Trump supporters have been lying and Donald Trump himself who incited the whole thing has has been lying every day of the four years he was in. So he has. So he has caused that issue. I know no president as far as I concerned has caused issues like that. Never. And now here's here's the most here's the part that is most upsetting. Senator Mitch McConnell, he when he got up and gave a speech about Donald Trump inciting what happened in January 6, he he he gave a really great speech and he he revealed everything the truth. After he was that he was asked if if Donald Trump remains in control of the Republican Party and tries to run for president again, will you support him? And he says, of course, wait, first he says he is a traitorous treasonous, you know, pathological liar that that that incited incited the insurrection. And then he turns around and says, oh, of course, I would support him if he ran for president. So he doesn't know he's going to run for president, isn't it? Because, you know, I mean, I don't hear what I'm saying. Mitch McConnell talked from two sides of his mouth. He is a two-faced hypocrite. First, he tells the truth about Trump. Right. And he says, of course, I would support him. Well, so that means that Mitch McConnell only cares about party. He doesn't care about the country. He doesn't care about American people. They only care about their party and what's good for their party in gaining power. They don't care about anything else, but just doing the same corruption that they've been doing, stuffing their pockets, putting the putting the tax burden on the middle class instead of where it belongs on the rich, giving giving the rich a tax vacation because the rich are giving huge campaign contributions to these establishment career politicians, the Republicans. Mitch McConnell gets, I'm sure his pockets are wide open and his hands are out. And he sees all the lobbyists that want to talk to him. And I'm sure his palm gets greased all the time. So that's where I think it is. You know, just even tourists, if you want to find the truth, follow the money trail. Follow the money trail. And he's right. Well, that's crazy. Oh, yeah. I don't know. So you believe even when we go back to the old normal, do you believe this craziness will continue on once we get off, once we're done with the masks and the social distancing and all that craziness? Do you think this craziness will still go on even when we go back to the old normal? I'm talking about politics wise. There's a strong possibility because the hatred and bigotry and insane behavior and corruption with these fascist stormtroopers, it doesn't matter if there's, if this COVID-19 or not. I think their agenda of overthrowing democracy in the United States is still going to continue. I mean, I hope it doesn't come true, but we might be looking at a civil war someday. So do you think, we have, but that was Donald Trump's doing. Donald Trump was trying to overthrow democracy, but he's no longer president. Well, he is, he's always been one of the shittiest characters that were ever conceived in a womb. I mean, he's a power hungry. He's a pathological liar. And he worst of all, he's a sociopath. He feels no remorse for what he does. So basically, if it wasn't for Nancy Pelosi or all these other people, do you believe that our democracy would have been over if they didn't stand for what they believed in? Well, what I'm saying is would Donald Trump basically take over if Nancy Pelosi and other people didn't stand for me? Well, Nancy Pelosi has always been another moderate career politician, but she's not as bad as a Republican. But, you know, she's a corporatist, you know, she takes big money from corporations. That's every politician, right? If you're a good one or not. Yeah. Well, the only one who doesn't take big money from corporations is Bernie Sanders, but the DNC always screws over Bernie Sanders. They don't, they don't, they deliberately sabotage Bernie Sanders. Yeah. Well, he left on his own. He didn't want to run anymore because I think he just felt Donald Trump should win. And that's, I'm talking about the 2016 election. Well, he, Bernie Sanders, if he wanted to, all the way back in 2016, Bernie Sanders, with our revolution, Nina Turner, our revolution, he could have created a third new progressive people's party. But he can still do. He can still do it. And he can still do it now. But for some reason, he has this, this pipe dream, this obsession with trying to save the Democrat party, trying to restore them to what they once were like during John F. Kennedy. Well, you could, you can, but you have to have the same beliefs. Yeah, but there's too many corrupt people in the DNC. There's too many, there's too many people that, that have sold out what we're talking about. And they, they sabotage him in 2016 with Deborah Wasserman Schultz or what I like to call her Deborah Wassercunt shits. Keep it up there. And now with this bucktooth, be a scrawny bucktooth beaver, Tom Perez, the head of the DNC, he screwed over to Bernie Sanders in 2020. So look, Sanders must have known he was not going to get the nomination by the Democrats. Well, that's why he probably left for that moment. Right. Now, now, now, if he, because he has such massive supporters, he could have formed the third new party because his supporters were furious that he capitulates. At the end, he capitulated and didn't even decide to run as an independent. He could have run, he could have ran as an independent. Through that. I'd still be on the ballot as an independent. I've never seen anybody win as an independent. Well, Bernie Sanders, Bernie Sanders is different because if you saw, if you saw the massive amounts of supporters at the Bernie Sanders rallies, but, you know, you can, you can, you can like look out and just see acres of them. I mean, you would know how, how much momentum he had in 2016 and in 2020. And they didn't want to support Joe Biden, all the Bernie Sanders supporters. They knew that Joe Biden was a corporatist and Elizabeth Warren is a corporatist. You know, and Tulsi Gabbard is a corporatist and who else? Oh, Amy Klobuchar is a corporatist. Pete Buttigieg, Buttigieg, whatever you want to call him. I never heard of these people. Yeah, they were, they were in the debates, the Democratic debates. These are all corporatists and the Bernie Sanders supporters knew it and they knew that they saw how many our revolution progressive independence were winning elections. You know, like, like the squad members, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the others. They're from the our revolution, progressive independent organization, and they were winning left and right. Nationals, many progressives were winning elections, nation-wide. He had such powerful, massive momentum, he could have very easily ran as an independent or formed the third party. Now, what I would do is, if this was a normal world, society, we're living in the country, in this country, the, our revolution, the Democratic Socialists of America and the Green Party, these three organizations should join into one big jog or not, into one big political party, the third political party. Oh, they're all, they're all extreme left-wing progressives, all three. The Green Party, our revolution, Democratic Socialists of America, all of them, all three should come together and combine to form a third new progressive people's party that doesn't accept contributions from any corporations or mega-rich, just like Bernie ran twice. He only accept donations from regular American citizens. Okay. Could I choose that if I were to decide to run for president or governor? Oh, you could do that. You could do, you could do that. You got to get a certain amount of signatures to make the ballot, to get on the ballot. I mean, you don't, look, some of these people in the squad, they're, some of them are not, are not lawyers or judges or career politicians. Some of them are just, just normal everyday American citizens. Like me and you? Yeah, well, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was a waitress and a waitress and a bartender. Oh, yeah, she, she wasn't a politician before. So what is she now, a politician or she's back to being a waitress? Oh, she's a United States Congresswoman. Oh, okay. From, from Bronx, from the Bronx in Queens, New York. Oh, no. Yeah, no, she's in Washington. She's a famous, she gets interviewed all the time. She, she is a current Congresswoman. Wow. And, and she, before that she was a waitress and a bartender. So there you go. So that proves to me that I can run for governor or president, just like anybody else. Yeah, yeah. And you can, you can put, you can hang a banner in the background like Alex the beer master for, for governor of New Jersey or for, for senator or congressman, whatever you want to, congressman is good. That would be awesome. So yeah, so I'm just, James, I'm sorry, I just get crazy. I just hope, I hope eventually we won't have to wear these masks. According to you, we probably won't have to wear these masks anymore. Would you like, would you be interested in asking the Divining Rods any questions? Why not? Let's bring them up. All right. Here, hold on. I'll go get them. And you, you do some promo for your, your food show on Fridays. Okay. Okay. So James is going to get the dividing rods. He'll be back in a few minutes. So my food Friday will be bagels, I'm not bagels, donuts, donuts and beer. If you can find a stout, please do. If you can find a donut beer, please do. Any beer would work. It'd be delicious. I can't wait to do it. And so eight o'clock Eastern Standard Time through Friday. Scratch the bagel thing, that was the last Friday. So donuts this Friday. Okay. I'm back. The bagels. Not bagels. No, not bagels, donuts. I made it. We did the bagels by Saturday. Remember when on it, when Aunt Esther on Sanford the Sun said to Fred Sanford, you, you bagel-eyed fool. No, but we're not doing bagels. I already did bagels the other night. That is true though. I like that saying though. I've never heard of that saying, but it's pretty cool though. But yeah, this Friday is going to be donuts and stout or donut beers, whatever. You, Gebronies out there, that didn't come on the show. Shame on you. Shame on all of this. Shame on you for deceiving James P. Madonna and lying to him. Let me get a warm up of the Vining Rods. You feel like being a guest on my show and answering some questions? Are those people that didn't come on the show, are they natural born douchebags? You think, you think it's, it could be alcoholism or, so, so it's not alcohol. So they must, they must, they must really suck, right? They must really be asshole motherfuckers. Yeah, that figures, that figures. All right. Now that it's coming up. And then, oh, hold on. We're just, it's my, my, my receptions. What'd you say? Cousin It? Showed up from the Adams family? Really? All right, well, I'll have them on after the Vining Rods. Yeah, the famous cousin It from that show, the Adams family. You know why I remember that? That's the hand you're talking about, right? No, not Cousin It. What am I saying? I know I'm getting yelled at, scolded. Thing, it's thing, it's not Cousin It. Cousin It's the one with the long hair. It's thing from the Adams family. Yeah, but I'm talking about the hand. That's thing, T-H-I-N-G. I'm sorry, I'm saying Cousin It. Thing, huh? Thing, thing. Okay. Bowled out. All right, I'm sorry. I made a mistake. All right. I'm looking forward to meeting them again. Yes. All right. Alex, I'm sure you have a good question. So Dividing Rides, I'm curious. According to James P. Madonna, we, we might not have, eventually afterwards, after, maybe, maybe after the fall, is it possible that we'll be still wearing masks or not? Wait a minute. They just said no. Okay. Well, that's shocking. So is that, does that mean that because of the vaccines, herd immunity will, will finally kick in by the fall, autumn of 2021? No. No. I'm confused. No, it says yes, herd immunity is going to kick in. Herd immunity means we, the virus is going to go bye-bye. All right. Yeah. So what other questions do you have, James? Let's see. Will, after the, the P-Pack or whatever, the CPAC, you know, the conservative convention they had in Orlando, Florida, do you see Donald Trump trying to stir up lots of trouble while Joe Biden is president? Yes. Okay. Is it because he is so insanely narcissistic and power hungry? Yes. Is he, do you, do you think the Vining Rides that Donald Trump is perhaps insane and sociopath? Okay. Okay. Is this why he, he, he always talked very positive about murderous dictators throughout the world? Okay. Because, because he himself sees, does he see himself as a power hungry dictator that wants to control the universe? Yeah. What an ego and a bloated orange demon. So the Vining Rides. All right. All right. Do a little, all right. Go ahead. The Vining Rides, do you think Donald Trump will run for president in 2024? And do you think he'll win? By the way, those are two questions. Okay. So I'll ask one question and then I'll ask you. Yes, two. Just, you know, do it one at a time. Okay. So do you think Donald Trump will run for president in 2024? The Vining Rides. Yes. Okay. Do you think the Vining Rides, do you think he will win the 2024 election? No. Okay. Awesome. Well, will Donald Trump be nominated by the Republican Party in 2024? No. No, yes. So the Republican Party is going to show its true colors? Are they, are they? Yes. Are the Republicans, are they really going to become that in saying, to nominate him? Yes. Oh boy. How about that? Okay. So basically the Vining Rides said no when it came to him running, meaning he's going to win. No, it said no, he's not going to win. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. But he's going to be in it. Right. That's what I'm saying. But they say yes for everything else for right now. Yeah, he's going to challenge Joe Biden for the presidency, which I think is hilarious since he is like the worst president in the history of the United States. And many times over. Maybe Trump won't try to run this time. I mean, I thought Trump was a good president at one point, but once he started all this craziness, I'm like, okay. Did you think, did you see that gold statue that they, that they made of him? It reminds me of the golden calf from the Old Testament. No, Bob, look that up. I didn't see that one. I put the photos of it on Progressive Discussions Facebook page. Yeah, I'll put my name under it. I'll put your name under the photo so you could see it. Yeah, it's a, it's a page or is that a club? Because now page, let me, let me go there. Because all I see is, all I see is everything is food. No, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll get you there easy. Okay. I'll wait for you. What is Facebook trying to, trying to force on me now? Cross-app messaging? I don't want to deal with this now. You know, they, they force things. I noticed that when you're on, you run social media or you're on many business related pages that they force things on you like almost like fishing. You know, where you can't, you can't close out the page. Wow. They don't give you the option of closing out. Well, you know how I do that? I go on Facebook and I, and I go, if I'm, if I don't, if it gives me an issue, I just go like this like that. And then like that. That's how I do it. If I don't want to be drunk with flip flops and he, and he's holding like a star, like, like it's a sizzler from 4th of July or something. A sparkler, I'm sorry. Is that, is that the thing I need to go to? I'm confused. South Dakota governor, I heard the interview and he sounded like a real doofus. You know, he's out of his mind. All those, all those flag waving right wing evangelical states, they all belong in a padded room, those people. Let me put, hold on. I don't see any issues. No, no, I'll get you there. All I got to do is, what the hell is, I hope nobody, oh, here it is. I found it. I found it. All right. All right. I'll put your name under there. What's going on? You're not coming up? Oh gosh. You know what I'm doing? You would have to type, you would have probably had to take my name in. How do I know what to do? This is what aggravates me about Facebook and Zuckerberg. I know you click like to it and then I try to put your name under it and your name don't show up. Oh yeah, you play it to put my, I don't know. I got to do it with my phone. It's not working on my desktop. Now, you see what I mean about something's working with the desktop? It's like, why can't it be like universal? Like, why can't both the desktop and the phone work together? Yeah, that's true. Now, this is going to be different. I was, watch, I'll be able to send it right to your messenger. I'm surprised how much, how many. Isn't it crazy that I'm on Facebook now, James? Well, it does make things easier. Yeah, sure does. Another friend of mine after a long period of absent is on, back on Facebook too. Yeah, but I was never on Facebook until now. Yeah, it makes, it does give you more options. Okay, I can't believe this. All right, I'm going to send it to your messenger. Go ahead. I'll get it. Sometime this century, Jesus, it's taking forever. And I got fast Wi-Fi. Oh, bitch. All right, it should be arriving in your messenger. Oh, there you go. Oh, yeah, the red stuff. Okay, with the red. Oh, yeah. And then you should be the computer. I can learn how to. Nina, Nina, your tea. We're going to, we're going to have fish and chips and haggis. Who is this person here? She's just Scottish. What person? Now I got, I got comments to make about those photos. Now this is my problem. Whoever took those photos is obviously not a real professional photographer, because you don't just snap a photo. You have to get the right angle. You have to make sure there's not other people in the photo. You got to, you got to zoom in on your, your target, your main target of the photo. And this person is like, just click, click. I mean, there's a lot of, a lot of dumbasses that do that. They just hold up a camera or a phone and go, click, click, click. And, you know, and you got, you got an image of a person holding up her her phone, taking a, you know, somebody on the side, taking a photo of the statue. Yeah, it's kind of weird. I take a photo. I, I do a preparation. I scope out the area and make sure there's nobody coming and make sure there's nothing unwanted that's going to be in the photograph. Well, I mean, but they might have wanted that. Yeah, that's the thing. Ah, they don't know what they're talking about. They're idiots. They don't know how to, they don't know how to professionally take photos. You notice, like, if you went to my, my, my Facebook profile, you'll see that all my photos were carefully taken. I don't have any miscellaneous distractions in my photos. None whatsoever. You people out there that said, you know, put me on, I'm in, man, I'm in, I'm in. Oh yeah, I see what you're talking about. You told me today, I'm in, man, and yeah, last night, I want to be on a show. Yeah, put me on, yeah, put me on, yeah. Go fuck yourself. Oh yeah, I see what you mean, James. You have all your, your videos, all your pictures right here. Oh, I mean, the scenery, not, not, not me. I mean the, the scenery, like, you know, when I take scenery photos, I, I... Oh, like this? Yeah, all right. Like the, the, the, the beef heart, the raw beef heart. Come on, have a heart. I like that. Yeah, show, show Nina what it looks like. She's not on, she's not on. All right, hold on, hold on, let me, let me get, let me see what I got. I took the beef heart, I said, happy St. Valentine's Day, raw beef heart, and underneath I put down, come on, have a heart. Have a heart, have a heart. You people suck, you people suck. You lied to me. You bared false witness against thy neighbor. Okay, I am going to, I know he's anxiously waiting in the reception room. I am going to get thing from the Adams family. I know he is, he's retired now, but he's still doing okay. Then he still comes around once in a while. Yeah, once in a big while. Let me get, okay, thanks. Still in here? You can come in now. Okay. All right, thing is here. Now thing, we haven't seen you in a long time. Are you happy to be back on my show? Well, what do you think of the show so far? Right? We should, oh, I'll be like that. Oh, geez. That's what you think of my show? What's your problem? I think you need metamucil. Go fuck yourself. I think you, I think you need a fiber in your diet. You're very grouchy. What an attitude. Thing, my name is Alex the beer master. I would like to drink a beer with you one day. Do you like to have a beer with Alex the beer master? What's your problem? He doesn't have a fat ass. He's a bitch. Shut up. Um, ass bandit. Would you, would you, would you like to be a co-host someday with us? I know that, that's some of the, uh, the, the booze hounds on, on the, uh, on the shows and on the, oh, gee, relax. Were you, were you got a hypertension or something? You drink too much. So what, you drank too much, uh, coffee, so too much espresso. You're all, all right. That's it. What is that again? All right. That's it. He's always in such a grouchy mood when he's on a show. I hope to drink a beer with him one day. If he doesn't, if he shapes up. You want to, you want to have a beer? Would you like to have a beer with Alex something? Are you sure? You know, James, I like about you. You have the awesome, uh, personality. I never know what's going to happen when I hang out with you. Keep up the good work. Thank you. You don't get it, but someday you will. You'll get mine. So tell me what happened, what went wrong with the, the show that we did on the, on the food channel? What do you mean? No, we did a show and you said you had to delete it. Oh, uh, because they used, they used the, someone used their last name. I didn't want to be on. I didn't want them because they were in the background. I was, I was doing my, my food review and they used their, their last name and their first name and I didn't feel comfortable leaving it up. But I'm going to try to do a food review tomorrow. If not, we'll see what happens. You were, you were, you did the food review at home or you did it on location? At work. How do you, how do you do, how do you do a review on, on liquor at work? It wasn't liquor. It was food. You know, you're a German. Oh, it was a food, it was a food review. Yeah. You're an alcoholic. I thought you were, you were bringing your lunchbox with you or something. James, again, I'm happy to have you around for some of these because you are a trend. Yeah. Well, thank you. I appreciate the kind words. I hope one day you'll see that, but I'm hoping you will. You know, these other jabronis that, you know, let's say, I'll be there, man. I'll be there, I'll be there, you know, you know, they're full of shit, you know. I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened to Tom. Tom, I wanted to meet him. I mean, I'm just according to you the past couple of times, you didn't come on. The beer whisper, he calls himself the beer whisper and the whiskey whisper and, and he told me he got really enthusiastic. And, and even I, Eric, Eric is, you know, he's moody too. You know, he's, he's not predictable. But do you become moody too, James? I want your. No, I don't know. I usually, no, I usually, when there's a problem, I usually I mean, communicate with people. Right, but I'm saying, do you think I was ever, do you think I'm ever moody? That's what I'm gonna tell you. Yeah, and J. Terry, he's not moody and he's very reliable to very consistent. I wish we could have him on the show. Well, you know, the only way he can, the only way we might be able to get him on a show is like, if, if, if, if, if I had a request to do, let's say a Fandango Friday or a Sensational Saturday and, and it was like 2.33 a.m., let's say it was late. He gets up at 2 or 2.30 a.m. And then he does dawn busters at at 5.30 a.m. Central time. To that? Well then, if that's the case, he'll, he'll, he'll be up. Maybe he would have had breakfast and you know, I can't picture eating at that hour, but you know, maybe I can persuade him to come on the show and then, then he'll have to go get ready to do his dawn busters. So this is a possibility. I mean, the problem is I have work on Mondays. Yeah. Yeah. And, and like Friday, Friday and Saturday, it's tough. It's tough to get people. Now, now, like Eric knows that if he comes on this show on a Sunday, he, he can't stay on too late because he has to get up for tomorrow. Hmm. So, which is understandable, but he spent a good amount of time last Sunday. Yeah. So that was good. So he did his fun and then he had, you know, he did his fun. I said, look, I said that to Mick Vaughn Raven. I said, you want to come on? You're more than welcome. You come on. So you stay on for an hour. There's a lot. You can say it an hour. And we, we've done that every week. How long we've been doing this show? For a couple of weeks, right? I lost track. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Like I told Mick, I says, look, worst case scenario, let's say you come on and you can only stay for 30 minutes. Now, a half hour, you could, you could still say a lot in a half hour through that. It could happen. You know, I mean, it's doable and a half hour is better than nothing. At least you're on the show. Yeah. You still had your fun. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And so anyway, this is, this is the thing. You know, I mean, you got to do it when you got, you have people to do it with. Now, now the show that we did when you were home, that's still on Facebook, right? Yeah. Everything else when I was home was still on there. Oh, no, just not one thing that was at work. I, I took off. Not the one that I was home. No. No, you're taking a look. Go ahead, take a look. It's still there. I think I hope it is. What I was supposed to do is go to, go to, was it progressive discussions? See, I'm on my desktop now. So I'm able to bring up the sophisticated Facebook live program. So I would, what I was going to do is experiment and, and take a video of my phone, of the monitor, and kind of show you how you add people. Remember, you were, you were looking for how to add people. Yeah. But that's for only Facebook itself, not, not stream your stream. Or I don't have no problem at. No, not stream. I like, like in other words, let's say you're using your, your computer and you're on Facebook. And you want to do some beer reviews. So, you know, for Facebook. And then you, you said to me, look, I figured out how to work it. But I, I can't find how to add people. So then I says, well, next time I'm on my computer, I'm going to go. And I'm going to bring it up and ask you, is this what you see? Okay. So you're going to, what are you going to do? You're going to go live on your Facebook, on your phone right now? Yeah. Well, I can't, I can't. You probably could. I guarantee you. I probably could. It's just that it's going to. Echo. I won't be able. I mean, I'll be able to not put you on, because your, your microphone and video can only be used. Only one at a time. That's right. Right. You don't have to put me on. I'm going to watch it. No, but I want to, I want to take, I want to take a video of what it looks like on the computer when you try to go live on Facebook. So I could show you how to add people. Because when you're on your computer, I'm almost sure you can add multiple people on video. You're probably good. Yeah, it's different. I'm not sure how to go live now, but. Yeah, it's a different, it's a different format. Yeah. Different format. But okay, what I'm going to do is, I mean, I don't see anybody else jumping on. Actually, let me, let me, let me see if anybody sent me a message. I'll just close the show. I'll just show and then we'll, we'll do the big experiment. Okay. No, no, you see, no, you see there that nobody's, nobody sent a message. So you know what? Let me close the show. Let me tell everybody it's been great. Thank you for joining progressive discussions. For this week. And it was great having you. It was a lot of fun. Alex, it's, it's been wonderful as always. And I'll see you all next Sunday. Right. You and me. Now, when me and Alex do live shows on Facebook about food and about different stuff. They're great shows too. Okay. So anyway, good night everybody. And, and you, I'll see you on Facebook because I'm going to do that experiment. So you want me to leave here then? Okay. Leave StreamYard and I'll meet you on, on, on Facebook. I'll keep my messenger over. Are you going to send me the link on messenger to go on to that? Yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to try to go live. And then I'm going to take a video of where you have to click to bring guests on. All right. Well, I'll see you over there. And if you mess you over there. All right. All right. See you then. Bye.