 They were apparently getting ready to take a bus to get ready to celebrate Shabbat a short time ago I spoke to Ellie Bear the president and founder of United Hatsala who himself lives nearby and is still in shock over this tragedy Well, it's a terrible scene of an entire family who are Hurt from this terrible Terrace attack who just ran into them many many of the family members are injured in their All now in different hospitals in Jerusalem The little boy unfortunately, we were trying to save his life on the spot This this actually happened in Jerusalem in the heart of Jerusalem in the neighborhood of our moat right next to my house And this is not the first terrorist act that we have in this neighborhood Which we are right on the borders of the outskirts of Jerusalem This this family that was standing on the in the bus stop waiting for a bus to go for Shabbat Lots of them are just in different hospitals now in different conditions some of them in serious condition a lot of people are Emotionally traumatized. We are treating a lot of people the psychotrauma team of United Hatsala now treating people who are just devastated and just Heart very hard for them to deal with what they saw and so members of their family Were injured they saw people were waiting with them on the bus stop The bus stop was full of people and the terrorists just came towards them really driving really really quick straight into them Try killing as much as he could killing as much as early as he could it was a devastating scene Seen with little children with Shabbat clothing with Talit see saw people Talits are spread all around There's a very very sad scene that people with their Shabbat Strymos who are laying on the sides of the road most of these people take buses are people who cannot afford cars So they have a whole family with them waiting for a bus to go for Shabbat This this direction goes towards Moudin and towards other cities outside of Jerusalem Devastating Arab Shabbat For for all of us it is so devastating and can you explain a little bit more because this is the first We're hearing that it was one family are all of the victims all part of the same family or the injured part of the same Family as a boy who was killed It looks like that. I can't say exact details because that's a lot of the family members I'm getting phone calls every every minute from different family members, but it seems like a lot of them are from the same family That we're waiting on the bus together They were Literally one next to each other when the when the terrorists ran into is into the bus stop They had other people there as well from not from the same family, but You know before Shabbat you could see bus stops full of people waiting for the buses with their children Little babies at a pregnant woman there. She's in the hospital now in a trauma room in Hadassah We transferred a young a young a young young man To the hospital really serious conditions. We we we were really shocked from the scene that we saw Seeing one terrorist able to hurt so many people and he knew that this terrorist knew that Air of Shabbat, that's the time that he could catch everyone on the bus stop It's like Sunday morning when the soldiers are going to the army same thing air of Shabbat The families are going for Shabbat and this is unfortunately a terrible Beginning of a Friday afternoon where it's so usually so happy it wasn't so happy to go for Shabbat And this is sad for all of us here in Israel. I can't imagine I mean you've you I know in your job I have seen it all and clearly this is something that has really impacted you on such a personal level It's so hard to be able to be objective while you're performing life-saving measures when something so terrible happens You know, what are your concerns as a resident of this neighborhood? This is a serious concern well, you know Two weeks ago. I was having Shabbat dinner with my family and every one of my members of my family are a volunteer in United Otsala We're sitting in Shabbat dinner having dinner and the whole time we get a Hatsala emergency call of a shooting in a Synagogue right next door. It's been remote the vehicle is very close to here The terrorist identified as Hossain at Karakai was a 31 year old resident of the Isawiya Neighborhood of Easter Jerusalem who rammed into the bus stop. He is said to have been neutralized We don't have any more details as of now, but we have Jonathan reggae on the phone He is taking in all of the information. What could you tell us as far as new developments Jonathan? The newest development is that a time of anger the minister of national security is now on the side We discussed a lot about it I think that many of the people we saw we we already heard in the last hour that the protesters calling death terrorists I think they might be starting losing patience specifically with Eta Marvin veer Let's remember he up if we're looking for a reason why Eta Marvin veer was so successful in the election campaign and and what landed him eventually in the seat of the minister of national security is The promise to fight terrorism to find solutions for terrorism Which according to him were not found in the previous government? He's been in his post with five six weeks and already we're seeing a lot of terrorist acts a The two people a killed today added to the seven killed two weeks ago all of this under his watch Where are the solutions is preventing pita bread from from? From prisoners a move that justified or unjustified That's not the issue. Is this the way to bring security looking at the results? The answer is no, right? Also as far as we we spoke to the you know the Paramedics Eli bear and he was saying that there they were members of one family. Have you been able to get any other details? That's as far as we're hearing members of one family. We just heard from the men From from the men speaking before me a remote is a neighborhood that goes to more and more orthodox in recent years And and we can assume that the people waiting at the bus station where we're there heading for Shabbat there Therefore, they're from the same family same communities We do not know exactly the identities of the victims at this moment So unclear if they're all from one family, but but we can assume usually there are lots of families Together and so we can assume that many of those Injured and even killed and come from the same circles. Let's call it this way Also, you mentioned earlier when this news was breaking me We Eli bear who was the you know the founder of United had Salas actually from the neighborhood nearby I said it was just a few blocks from where he lives this this terrorist was able to you know Had plates that were legal was able to get there freely What does this mean as far as you know the fact that these two neighborhoods are so close together? There is no barrier of any kind What do you have to say about that? Israeli politicians they there's one mantra that they love to say all the time that Jerusalem is the Eternal and undivided capital of Israel. It may be true the city is undivided But it comes with a price and and the rather heavy prices as much as we're seeing because East Jerusalem might There Israeli residents Israel made it a point of making sure that they are Israelis annexing that area Practically to Israel and meaning that everyone in East Jerusalem is an Israeli resident with freedom to move anywhere They want in in the Jewish neighborhoods in Jerusalem or anywhere else in Israel With Israeli license plates and Israeli blue IDG Israeli ID's and I remember in a one of the previous violent waves in 2015 I believe it was the mayor then was near bar cut who's today the minister of economy and and a member of the Liquid party of Benjamin Netanyahu back then he put a little concrete A little concrete wall is separating the one Jewish neighborhood from an Arab neighborhood And he was strongly criticized because it was actually performing some kind of a division of Jerusalem And that is something that the politicians here do not want to do So if you want freedom of movement for East Jerusalem might this might be a price to pay unfortunately Right, especially, you know with this new government more things happening, you know from the judicial standpoint this week How was this incident even though we've had others almost seems like every week going to play into This transition and and what's happening internally and politically I'm not sure it will have any effect on the Judicial reform that the government is Planning and they're planning to continue with it. Yeah, they're starting Jonathan reggae. Thank you very much. We're gonna