 Welcome to the World Radio Communication Conference 2023 WRC 23 being held in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates. We've got the great pleasure of being joining the studio this morning by Claude Pichavan who is the Executive Expert of Communication, Navigation and Surveillance at Airbus. Claude, welcome to the studio. Thank you. Thank you very much for this invitation. It's a pleasure to be here. Now Airbus is a member of the ITU radio communications sector. Why is WRC 23 important to Airbus? In fact, WRC 23 as well as all the cycles of ITU important for Airbus because Airbus is connecting people, connecting people through the various products that we have in Airbus. So I'm speaking about aviation, helicopters, satellite systems, stratospheric also airplanes. So we have a lot of products which are relying on radio communication, radio navigation and radio surveillance. So this is a very important topic for us. Absolutely, because without radio communication I mean the skies would be a chaos. Absolutely. So we really are looking for the outcome of WRC because we have some topics in which we have an interest. For sure the most one which is I would say a trendy one but not only which is important is sustainability and we are convinced that sustainability will be part of our duty and this is part of our strategy and so we'll play for it and so for me radio communication is a way also to contribute to sustainability aerospace. And what do you mean by sustainability in terms of aerospace? Sustainability for aerospace is that if you are able to optimize trajectory, roots, then you will optimize and you will have less fuel consumption, less noise and so it will contribute directly to sustainability and so we have also other means to contribute to sustainability like satellite networks and systems. Now WRCs are all about spectrum allocation. What spectrum areas are of interest to the aviation industry and how do they actually impact the aviation industry? In fact radio allocation is very important because we have two folders. The first one is to try to protect the current allocation we have in order to protect our services which are related to service of life and regulatory of flight which is for aeronautical not post importance and we are also looking for other new opportunity for new application. So I will say try to have more efficient spectrum and so if we are able to add additional application services in the existing band it will be a good way for us. Now I was just talking to my daughter this morning when she was writing to me from a plane the advances certainly in terms of connectivity on planes are quite incredible. How is that going to be affecting the aviation industry? For sure people and particularly passengers are looking for connectivity on board the aircraft like at home. So we need to ensure that we are capable to provide this connectivity. We come back to the sustainable aspects so we need to ensure that it will be not at high cost and so with efficiency so again we come back to the efficiency of the spectrum and so this is a key asset for us in order to master it for passengers but also for the airlines. We talked a little bit about outcomes before but what are some of the outcomes that the aviation industry would like to see emerge from WRC 23? In fact we have a couple of items and we have what we call the 1.7 agenda items which is related to space VHF and another one which is maybe a smaller one which is 1.9 which is HF Enance and those two items will clearly contribute to the optimization of the air traffic management particularly for ocean region and remote region. So this is for us two main items which will contribute to I would say improve the air quantity called I would say regularity and safety of flight. I know that you're not a fortune teller but how do you see the future of Airbus? I think it's a very ambitious future because we are convinced that and we pioneer today the sustainability of aerospace so we want to be part of it. We have a lot of projects in it and so radio communication is also a part of it. So this is what we are looking for. We have also other projects like advanced air mobility and so this is also another way where we see a trend growth and so we need to be part of it. And drone taxis and that kind of thing is that going to be something that you would be involved with? I hope we will be part of it for sure. This is a segment we are looking for also definitely. Possibly here in Dubai who knows next time we are here. Well Claude Pichier, thank you so much for joining us in the studio. It's been fascinating talking to you and we look forward to catching up with you again very soon. Thank you very much. It was my pleasure. 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