 There we go. My name is Dylan Johns. I'm the assistant project manager for this project for the city. This is a pre-construction community meeting for our West Cliff drainage improvements project, as well as our sanitary sewer rehabilitation contract 91 project. Mike Bennett is the primary project manager. For the city, this is a partnership project between the city's transportation and public works department and the water department. This project will involve water, sanitary sewer, and stormwater construction. The West Cliff area has had frequent flooding problems, as well as undersized and caused by undersized drainage pipes. The stormwater aspect of this project will be upgrading that infrastructure. For the water portion of the project, they will be updating undersized water pipes. For the sanitary sewer, they will be rehabilitating aging and undersized sewer pipes. This has been a multi-phase project for stormwater. This is our third phase, although the name of the project is Phase 1. For the water and sewer portion, this is their second phase of the project, and this will be the last one before we're finished over there. Like I just said, this is a three-phase drainage improvement project. Phases 2A as well as 2B have already been completed. This is considered Phase 1 of our project. This will be the last bit needed to make the full upgraded system operational. Some details about the specific work we'll be doing for the stormwater portion. We will be upgrading the storm drain pipes along Trail Lake Drive, Manderley Place, Anita Avenue, and Suffolk Drive. There will also be some minor channel improvements in Foster Park, where the trail crosses the channel downstream of our storm drain outfall. We're going to be cleaning out the existing culverts down there, as well as armoring the banks of the channel around the trail crossing, just to prevent any potential erosion problems or anything like that down there. The waterline work will be done on Trail Lake Drive, Seminary Drive, Suffolk Drive, Anita Avenue, Winsfield Avenue, and Cherokee Trail. The Sanitary Sewer Rehabilitation will be happening on Trail Lake, Seminary South Drive, and then Anita Winsfield, Carolyn Road, and Cherokee Trail as well. This is our pre-construction meeting. We are planning to start construction in June after school lets out, and this will be a two-year project. We anticipate completing the project in May of 2024. We will be starting on Seminary Drive and Trail Lake Drive with our water and sewer installation over there. We're timing up construction on this project to try to minimize impacts to the elementary school, West Glif Elementary, and so the water and sewer work adjacent to the school will be done this summer, and storm drain work along Trail Lake Drive that would impact any drivers heading to the school will be done next summer, summer of 2023. Our contractor on this project will be Circle C Construction Company. I did see that they have at least one person on this call or in this meeting right now to answer any questions that may come up. Brian McGill will be the inspector for the city, keeping an eye on things for us while everything is being built. Circle C will be distributing door hangers on streets before work begins on your specific street. They'll send out door hangers one week before the start of construction to notify you that it will be happening on your road, and then there will be a follow-up door hanger left, I believe two or three days before the start of construction. The city did need to get a few easements on this project, but we have already contacted all the property owners where easements are required, so that process is already underway. If you would ever like to get more information about the project or any project updates during construction, there is a webpage on the city's website. That's the link for it down there, but if you're trying to find it, you can also Google City of Fort Worth Capital Improvement Projects and search for the keyword Westcliffe, and it will be one of the top results on the city's webpage. There will be traffic impacts during construction, during the storm drain construction on Trail Lake Drive in the summer of 2023. Trail Lake Drive between Incanto and Mangerley Place will be temporarily closed for the duration of construction along there for us to install the storm drain pipe. Unfortunately, the size of the pipe is so large that we won't be able to allow traffic to pass during construction, but there will be detours. Detour signs will be posted to direct traffic along the detour route, and other streets impacted during construction will be passable to traffic while construction is ongoing. With the exception of Trail Lake Drive next summer, you will be able to get up and down the road during construction. There may be times when there's an open trench that you can't get to the side of the road or something like that, but the streets will be, you will have at least one lane to drive on and any roads where it's necessary, our contractor will have flaggers out to help direct traffic. I guess we'll open it up to questions. This also on this screen is the contact information for the primary project manager, Mike Bennett, as well as myself and our Inspector Brian and our contractor Keegan, if there are things that come up during construction and, you know, any potential emergencies, you know, hopefully not, but just in case that is everyone's contact information. Dylan, we do have a question in the chat and basically what are considered the construction hours and will residents be impacted by construction noise overnight? Residents will not be impacted overnight. I believe the city's working hours are, Mike, could you help me out? Is it eight to six or seven to six, seven and six? So most of the construction, yeah, seven and six, most of the construction will be between eight and five, but there will be not, there will not be any work in the after hours. And then on the weekends, it will be limited. Contractors may work over the weekend, but they do have to put in requests for that, but we do not anticipate that being a regular occurrence. Questions out there? Yes. Well, how will our front yards be affected? So basically, now one of the things that we want to point out that the city has ride away, so the ride away does not stop at the curb line. If there is, if a resident has, has granted the city a temporary construction easement, then we may, the contractor may work further into, into the yard. Otherwise, their activities will be limited to the ride away. But again, that doesn't, the right away doesn't stop at the, at the curb line. There's a lot of streets that's either five feet or 10 feet that go into the yard. And therefore there may be times when the contractor is walking on that part of the yard or they may have some temporary materials there for a short duration. Now then, any, even if it's within that right of way, and especially if it's in a temporary construction, a construction easement that we have obtained from the residents, all of this will be restored and it will be restored with sod. So, and if there are any, there's a lot of times residents will put their sprinkler systems in the right of way because that enables them to water all the grass between the front door and the, and the curb. If there's any damage to the sprinklers that are in the right of way, we will all, the contractor will also fix those as well. So, the way we look at it, your yard should be, when we get done with a project, your yard should be the same as it is today or better. And if you have any questions or concerns about that during construction, please reach, and by the way, my name is Mike Bennett and I am the project manager for this. And so if you do have any questions or concerns that come up during construction or even afterwards, please, please absolutely reach out to us. I have a question. Can you hear me? Yes, sir. I live on Manderley Place. If I saw the initial description correctly, it looks like you're only doing storm sewer on Manderley Place between Anita and Trail Lake. I'm just curious what the size of that pipe is going to be and will Manderley Place ever be shut down as far as access to our driveway? You should be able to get access to your driveway. I will say this is going to be, we're going to have to work that out on Manderley. Now, unfortunately, there was a bit of, I'm sorry, that was not clear. If you understood it to be only storm drain, because in Manderley, we are reworking the water and sewer in order to get the storm drain in. And this storm drain is going to be a, it's a really big box. Mike, I'm looking up the exact size right now. Thank you. I want to say this is 27 foot wide and 8 foot wide. I mean, it's a really large box in that area. And we will be working on Manderley from curb to curb. So I can't tell you, it's never on a situation like this. I want to be able to tell you that you will have access to your driveway 100% of the time, but that's just not actually true. There will be periods of time where the hole is in front of your driveway and no, and basically what happens is the contractors will knock on the door and let you know before it happens that the equipment will be needing to get in front of your driveway. And so while we are placing the storm drain box and the sewer and the water, those times it will be best that if you are outside of your driveway, if you need to be able to drive your car. But there will be notifications with that. Okay. Then I'd follow up with since you're going to be working sewer, water, will that start sooner than 2023? That is very unlikely that the on the storm drain now because basically what the way we intend to work on that and typically work on storm drain pipes is you start on the downstream where the water is out falling that's the side start the place that you want to start and you start working your way upstream. And so the downstream is there at the outfalls right there at trail lake just north of windail court. And we're we've committed at this point in time that we're not going to do that work until starting in 2022-23. So I would and it's going to take every bit of effort on the contractor to get that stuff done over the summer in trail lake. So in all likelihood, manderley would probably start in the fall. Now this big speculation right now do you please please understand that. Yeah. The anticipated would probably be in the fall is when we'd get on the manderley of 23. Okay. Thank you. And to answer the first part of your question, the size of the pipe along manderley is a 10 foot by eight foot concrete box. Wow. Yeah. I don't think we'll have access to our driveway all the time. We do have another question in the chat. Let's see we had a contractor that was putting in a bid for this job stopped by our house several weeks or months back. Like I said, this project would include significant work in our backyard. Is that I'm not going to see if I can get okay. Sorry. I'm not seeing this. Jeff, are you seeing this whole It's missing a word. It says is that correct. I copied it and pasted it into Word document so I can see the whole thing because the chat is misbehaving for some reason. All right. So I think it would depend on what which is sewer. There is some sewer work that is going to be done part of because again, this is this project has two pieces to it. One piece is the drainage. The other piece is the water sewer and the water and sewer. Some of the sewer lines are in backyards today and they're moving some of those sewer from the backyard to the front and or to the street. And of course your sewer service, if it's currently running the back, they will have to change it and run it to the front. And that I know that's going to require some work. And it does that you just ask if that was true. Is there any other thing with that? Does that answer your question in full? Do you have the detail of that? Because between Suffolk and Manderley Place, our sewer line is in the back and there have been problems with it from time to time. Do you have any of that detail in front of you to know if that line is going to be replaced? And Scott Taylor is with the water department and he helped oversee the design of the water department's portion of this project. Scott, are you online and able to answer that question? Well, I'm here, but I don't have my plans in front of me. I'm at that location. I would have to get back to answer that question. I'm guessing that the majority of the sewer mains that are in the back, we are moving those to the front or into the street. So that would require us working with the property owner. And Keegan, as we've discussed this with our contractor, will work with you to figure out what the best way is to reroute your sewer to the front. And that will be done. The city will be paying that cost. But we're going to try to avoid landscaping and things like that. But with this being gravity, we've got to get it to the street. But I would have to look up and see. And I may send Mike a response tomorrow when I get a chance to only go back to the plans and look at that. But I do believe Manderley is one of the streets that we are relocating the sewer to the front. Well, there's, I know we already have on man, I guess it depends on what part of Manderley, because there is sewer in the street that we're already dealing with. I don't see on this, I'm looking at the slide right now. I'm seeing that it makes you think that it's in the back. So there is sewer in Manderley and we live there. And the collection pipe in between the houses on the property line at the back of Suffolk and Manderley. That collection pipe comes to our property. And there's a manhole at that point. And then it turns and right angle 90 degrees and goes down alongside our house to the sewer in the street in Manderley. We probably won't have that much of a problem because we have the collection running alongside our house, which our sewer is tapped into. But all the other houses will probably have a different issue. Yeah, no, it sounds like you will, you would not be impacted because your lines going to where it would go no matter what. So even if we replace the sewer line that parallel that is along your house that would your sewer service would only be disrupted during a short period of time while we put the new pipe in and then we connected the services. So yeah, I think you probably will not have the issue with us, the contractor being in your backyard. Yeah, thank you. And to get back to the question from the chat from Maddie, I guess you posted a follow-up saying you live on Winfield and I'm looking at the plans right now. It looks like on Winfield currently your sanitary sewer runs along the back of the property lines and it will be moved into the street. So that that is what's happening for you and the impact to your yard would just be moving the service. Okay, we have another question here. Are sidewalks or winding of the roadways affected or part of this project Dylan? No, that is not a part of our project. Is there a recording of the meeting as I was only able to join at 625 and answer that? Yes, we are. Go ahead Dylan. I was just going to say yes, there is a recording and we'll be posting it on the city's web page project page for this. I guess I will go back to our contact page and does anyone else have any other questions? Yes, I have a question and that is along Anita Avenue from Winfield to Manderley. Are they putting a new storm drain from there? Because there's currently a storm drain close to Winfield and Anita that crosses to the southwest and goes into the open ditch behind those houses on seminary where the church is. Are they replacing that or taking that out? That portion of the storm drain pipe won't be affected on Anita between Winfield and Manderley. There's sewer work and I think water line work but the storm drain on Anita will be installed between Manderley and Suffolk. So all that water that comes down. And then a question on the sanitary sewer. I live right there where the Manderley and Anita come together just to the south of that just the next lot. And our current sewer is between my house and my neighbor next door that goes to the street to Anita. Is that being rerouted or is that going to stay there, that portion of sanitary sewer? That portion of sanitary sewer will be moved out into the street. Okay. All right. Thank you. You're welcome. One more follow-up question about sewer and drainage lines, sewer lines in the backyard. I notice on the map that Acacia is not affected Cordo or Anita. I live on the corner of Suffolk and Acacia and I know that my sewage empties out through my backyard. What about those folks who are my neighbors down the street of Acacia and Anita? Are they going to be affected with needing to have that sewage line moved out to the front? On Acacia and Anita north of Suffolk, no. Those lines will not be rerouted into the street. On Acacia, the lines aren't impacted. There is a sewer rehabilitation between Suffolk and Cordo between Anita and Trail Lake Drive. That sewer line runs along the back of the property lines, but it's being rehabilitated through pipe enlargement. So they won't be digging all the way across everybody's backyards. There'll be a launch pit and receiving pit at either end and the line will be trenchlessly rehabbed and then they'll go in. They'll have to go in to reconnect everybody's sewer services, but there will be minimal impact to people's backyards doing it that way. Understood. Thank you very much. With the follow-up question here, again, since we live on Manderley and have that sewer pipe running in the back, will that pipe just be abandoned once the new pipe is in front and connected? Looking at the plan, that line between Manderley and Suffolk isn't being rehabbed with this one. Parts of it will be the part that's in the street along Manderley that's being relocated. The one I just talked about between Suffolk and Courtauld that runs through the back of property lines is being redone, but it looks like the one that runs along your property isn't being fully rehabilitated. So it will be as is. Well, I'm assuming it'll be abandoned because you're running all the sewer lines to the front from the back line. There's an existing sewer line in Manderley that we're touching. That's what Dylan was trying to say. We're not rerouting that backyard line. There's already sewer in Manderley and we're relocating that one. Yes, I understand that. Right now you have a lot of houses connected to the back line. And all I'm asking is will you just abandon that line once you hook up to the front of Manderley? That's what we're trying to provide is that we're not rerouting. So no, there's not going to be the ones that are hooked up to the back today will remain hooked up to the back when we're done. Oh, okay. That was just that sewer line. The water department did not feel needed to be rehabilitated. Scott, do you have any, you're not in front of your plans. Do you recognize that at all? Did that do it all? Yeah, I mean, basically we evaluated that whole area and it probably did not meet the level of needing upsizing or replacing at this time. So that's probably why it was, it's not being touched. It is in fairly good condition. I have a question. I live on Anita, right where Manderley comes into it, just to the south. Behind our property, there is an easement area that opens up onto Carolyn Street, just immediately about one house south of Suffolk. And we have a storm drain and a sanitary sewer back there that frequently the storm drain and a heavy rain will blow the top off the box and wondering if you're going to be doing something about that. And that's what all of us do. I don't take this Dylan. So we really want to stay in touch with you. Our goal for this project would be to eliminate any blowing of the storm drain manually. That line will remain active, but by putting in this larger system, it should reduce the stress on the line that goes next year. Okay. Well, the reason I'm asking is because also the sanitary sewer back there often has a bad, bad smell coming out of it. And that just has been happening over the last few months. Those should be unrelated. Those should be unrelated. Okay. And that sanitary sewer line will be rerouted into the street. Well, it already is rerouted into the street, isn't it? It goes directly between our house and our neighbor's house out there. And we tap in right immediately on the, just beyond our gate, going to the backyard is where we tap into it. And it runs between our house and our neighbor's home. You said you were on the, could you say the intersection you're on again? We're right at 4125 Anita. And that's immediately to the south of the intersection of Manderley. And we are on the east side of the road. So that there's also currently, okay. I was going to say just to try and clarify what I mean by rerouted to the street, currently your sanitary sewer service drains to the back of your property. And it will now be draining to the front. Okay, actually to the side, ours drains to the side and connects with the, with the sanitary sewer that that's immediately out in front of our, in that intersection of Manderley and Anita. We had work done on it and they showed us where it ran a couple of years ago. We believe you. That's sometimes our, the, the services are picked up a little bit differently sometimes on our plans. Okay. The other question that I had really quickly, if I may, is when the water comes off of a grandberry and Carolyn up south drive onto Anita, after they redid the streets, they changed the, the rise in the center of the road, the crown of the road, they took it out and everything. And now then when the water pours down the street from the south of us, it just runs onto our side of the street only and does not go into the storm drains on the west side of the street at all. And I have video to show how that works. Is that going to be addressed? And also that the water that's coming off of that street up to our south would be equalized between the two sides. Dylan, did you pull up that set of plans so we can look at that intersection, please, sir? Yes. I'm, I'm working on finding it right now. All right. While Dylan's working on that, can I ask you one that the smell that you were receiving from the sewer? Yes. That happened when during rains or could have happened any time of the any time. Yeah. Okay. Typically in Texas, we do not run our storm drain with our sewer. That's something that does not happen here in Texas. There's a side by side in the back. Yeah. Well, sometimes what happens is, you know, there's a crack in the line or crack, more likely a crack in a sanitary sewer manhole. And so when in the range, you know, that can get a little bit of it doesn't matter if it's rained or not. That's what I was asking. So, yeah, it sounds like it just might be an older line. I don't know. But that's definitely not storm rain related. Yeah, that was that's just all started in the last couple of months. We've started noticing that smells getting worse and worse. And I didn't know since you're doing sanitary sewer, that was part of the plan to rehab that area or not. So, at the intersection of Anita and Manderley, we are putting in inlets. Okay. That's not, that's the opposite direction. That's north of us. Well, it's a little bit, it's a little. I'm talking about up at the corner of nor it's actually south of windfield. South Drive. Yeah, I don't think our, well, our storm drain system is not like that far. I don't think we're okay. We wouldn't be touching the streets as far as the storm drain goes. But the water department project, I guess that Dylan, the question would be is typically when we go through, I think I've been at a public meeting here where residents have discussed the crown of the road being adjusted, I guess would be a way to say it. And that has not been a part, there's not, that has not been a part of this project is. Well, it just, it makes it, it makes it so that one side of the street remains completely dry as far as water going down that, anything on the west side is not getting a water feed to it. It's only on the east side that it happens because of the lay of the land. Yeah, and I will tell you the typical design is, while it's not necessarily convenient, our goal is to keep the water in the right of way. And so what, what's supposed to happen is the curb is supposed to be higher than the crown of the road. So before it spills over into the yard, it should be spilling over the crown and onto the other side of the street. Now we, there are times we try to avoid where it's getting lopsided like that, but overall that doesn't lift to the side of, to the concern to where we necessarily start modifying the inlets and things like, like that. Well, I've got, any of the, any of the storm drains on the west side are just totally not getting water in them. So yeah, well, what happens is, because that's in the more frequent events, the smaller events where, where, where you see them most of the time in the heavier rain events where it starts spilling in, those inlets would still be beneficial when it there, it's the super heavy rains where the water is spilling over the crown. There is no crown anymore. They made it completely flat. Carolyn Schwimmer, one of the engineers I talked to years ago said they took the crown completely out. Really? Yeah, it's completely flat. We'll, we'll, we'll take a look, we'll take a further look at this and see. Okay, thank you. Absolutely. Are there any more questions out there? Okay, what about sewage line in Anita? That's a new, I think that's a new, a new chat. What about sewage line on Anita between Southbrook and Manderley? That one is remaining in place. It's between Terrell and Anita. Are they going to replace the streets also after they're all done? Dylan, do you want to take that? Yeah, we will be repaving the affected streets. They will have, they will, the contractor will be following the whatever plan is produced that shows the, the crown and typically they will have streets to have the crown. And that, that is what the contractor is putting in unless we show something differently. And, and I believe we're using standard details. I believe we call out using detail with the crown. So how, so they're going to start at Tray Lake and Seminary and then they're going to go east on Seminary to South Drive. That's going to be part of the first, I guess this summer, is that correct? And then Manderley and Tray Lake and down to almost Wendale, that will be next summer. Yes, that's correct. Okay. Do you know when they're going to work on Anita Avenue? You're guesstimated, I should say. That, that, that gets a little bit more difficult because Manderley, there's so much work that's going on between Tray Lake and Manderley. It's kind of a best, best guess. Okay. So and they're going to spend a bit of time on Manderley. Okay. Thank you. Out of curiosity, again, I'm the one on Manderley. That huge seven by 10 bucks cover. Does it go up to Anita and stop? Is that where or where it starts at Anita and Manderley and then comes down to Tray Lake? Yes. The seven by 10 box culvert runs down Manderley from Anita to Tray Lake. We'll be turning the corner on Anita and I believe that box is a little bit smaller. The one on Anita is a seven by seven box and then I believe most of the pipe along Suffolk Drive is also a seven by seven box. Okay. Okay. So it's really starting up on Suffolk and then you're going to turn south on Anita and then you're going to turn west on Manderley if I understand you right. Oh, yes. Sorry. I misunderstood what you were asking. The storm drain portion of the project, the most upstream part is on Suffolk near the intersection of Granbury Road. Okay. So we'll be going all the way down Suffolk to Anita and then down Anita to Manderley, Manderley to Tray Lake and then Tray Lake Drive to that channel. And then you turn the existing storm drains to the new one where they're next. Yeah. Okay. There was a lot of work done last year at Granbury and Suffolk. Was that part of the storm drain project in one of your earlier phases? Yes. That was phase two B. Okay. Thank you. At Anita and Manderley, there's three storm drain inlets there. Are they going to be bringing the new pipe to the east side of the street? I hope. Because that's where the bottleneck of flooding is. Could you say the location again, Anita and what? Anita and Manderley. There are three storm inlets at that intersection. And I just want to make sure that when they come up with the new 8x10 coming up Manderley, that they're actually going to connect that to the east side of the street. Because that's where the flooding is. Because that's where the flooding bottleneck actually is. Yes. All of the existing inlets will be tied into the new pipe. Okay. Good. Thank you. We're just going to have a chat with people. Do we have any other questions out there? It looks like we've, I believe we've answered anything in the chat. If I didn't answer your question on the chat, please retire or let us know. If that is all, I think we can call this a wrap as Dylan and Jeff mentioned this meeting has been recorded. So if you missed anything and or if you have any neighbors who would like to hear the meeting, please direct them to the city forward's website and search for Westcliffe and you will find the link to the project page. That is it. We will let everybody go back and have a dinner. Thank you for joining us and for all the questions.