 All right, it looks like we're live, but we're waiting on a board member to get a quorum. Can't start until they arrive, so we will twiddle our thumbs. Hopefully play background music till we can start. I don't know. Joe, should we ask and see if there's anyone on the phone? Is there anyone on the phone right now? Kurt, are you able to hear us? Kurt, are you able to hear us? Yes. Yeah, I appreciate it. Thanks, Pam. Hey, man. Did I get a hold of you? Yeah. OK, because she didn't let me know if you were coming or not, so she was like, I wasn't sure if I was at number four. You should hear it. You're always critical to me. Yes. All right, we have our quorum. While I think we try and figure out getting someone on the phone, we will go ahead with calling the roll, please, Steve. You should call us to order. Sure. So we will, now that we have a quorum, we officially call the July 25th Architecture Review Board reading to order. Now if you could do the roll. Sure. Zachary Rust, Joe Clark, here, Pam Langen, Dick Lindy, and Jerry Jones, Bob Heimerall, and Dave Aldig indicated that they would not be able to attend tonight. All right. If we could please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. And for our board members, any potential conflicts of interest with our item today? Hearing none, we will move to item number four, the approval of the minutes from June 13th. We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Minutes are approved. Thank you. I think I'm getting a little feedback. I don't know if that's annoying anyone else, if that's adjustable at all. And do we have a caller on the line yet? Kurt, can you hear us and can we hear you? Kurt is saying he can see us but not hear us. Sign language, right? Jason, you'll just have to do interpretive dance. Yeah, that's right. Whatever it takes to get it approved. Kurt, we're just waiting a bit to see if we can get you connected. If you want, what I could do just real briefly before they get into this, I could just kind of explain to everyone where this is taking place, because the owner is obviously familiar with that. So this particular property that we're looking at today is in the former Schopko parking lot. So it's directly south of Applebee's. Schopko's in the process of right now being renovated into a hobby lobby and a Ross dress for less. And those had come to the board previously. One of the things that the owner of that property did create this outlaw that's in the parking lot, just south of Applebee's. So they have been working with Jiffy Lube, and now Jiffy Lube is coming in here with the site plan drawing and architectural plans that you have before you today. So I'm sure we can get the owner on. And then Jason today is from Excel Engineering and is here. And he can also speak to the project. Well, in the interest of keeping stuff moving, Jason, if you wouldn't mind introducing yourself and give us a little background of what's being proposed. I suppose Jiffy Lube was the service building just in the short 2000s sort of area. And then the building, which is kind of a wide-bump whole portion of the building consists of a separate area, a lobby area there. It'll be a lobby area, a lobby area. So yeah, it's a bad thing. Oh, yeah. Sorry about that. Good now? Yep. There we go. Southern, I guess the south two-thirds of the portion of the building that'll consist of four service bays. The two furthest to the north, those will be the quick Lube service with a oil-changing pit underneath. And then the furthest two bays to the south, that'll be for like alignments, break jobs, tire replacement, things like that. So buildings kind of centrally located within that parking area south to Applebee's. Anything that we are not repaving on the property will become green space. During our pre-op meeting with Steve and city staff, we kind of went through the building elevations to some extent. Jiffy Lube's prototypical architecture is 100% exotic. Oh, yeah. Jamie Hendricks. And Steve said that wouldn't fly. So he provided us some architectural details and pictures of what hobby lobby. And I forget the other user that's going in. Is it Ross? Yes. What they were looking at doing to kind of mirror what they were going to be proposing or providing for their front facades. So we've kind of tried to mirror that to some extent. Provided a full brick stone wanes coat all the way around the four sides of the building. We did try and provide some additional articulation on the east side facing Taylor with some variable height parapet, as well as providing some additional emphasis material for the brick kind of centered around the overhead doors for bays two and three, as well as on the customer end of the building. We also provided some awning canopies over the two entry doorways on the customer end, as well as over the centered windows on the north elevation. I know there were some staff comments that were in the report that was put out. I think one was just question on as far as equipment. There will be a RTU unit on the roof. I think the biggest RTU unit that would be used is a five ton, which would fall below the top of the shortest parapet height on the roof. That would kind of be centered in between bays two and three on the roof. I think we also provided just perspective from Taylor Drive to the top of the building showing that unit being fully, I guess, not in view. I'm afraid what other questions were in the report, Steve. I think one was just on maybe the window on the return portion of the customer area that's kind of shown on the south elevation. There is a brick material in between the window and kind of that inside corner. You can't see it just because of the bumpouts there. But that's where Jiffy Lube puts the window if you guys would rather see it centered. I'm sure we could accompany that and center that on the south elevation of that return. As far as signage goes, this would be a typical Jiffy Lube sign package, how they would present their signage. I think there was a comment on signage for the north elevation potentially being centered over the center window there. I think Jiffy Lube likes to present their signage closest to the front of the building towards the roadway. So that's fairly typical for them. They'll kind of flip the signage to wherever the closest roadway is. And with this building kind of being set back into the site and behind some vegetation out front just south of their main entry, I think they'd prefer to keep the signage at that location on that north face. I think the only other question was on the dumpster enclosure. It was referenced on the plan to the architectural plans. But we don't have those. So describe what's being proposed. Yeah, dumpster enclosure will be split face block with color to match the brick material on the building with a stone cap. And then they either do a metal panel for the gates or vertical treks, boards, to complement the brick material, the stone material. Great, thank you. I appreciate you running through those staff comments. The window on that south elevation, whether it's centered in the EFAS or not, I guess I could go either way on that. Centered might look nicer from the outside, from the inside. Looked as if there might be a piece of equipment. I don't know how high that is. Yeah, I think there's a built-in with the TV just east of that window. So I think that's strategically where Jiffy Lube has it just to avoid that built-in furniture on the inside. Let's just address that one with the board. Any other thoughts on that window on the south elevation? How critical it is to anyone to center that window in the EFAS knowing it might disrupt the interior layout? And from a staff perspective, I wasn't as familiar with the interior layout. I don't think it's a huge deal. One way or the other, it was just something that was noticeable. And so there's no recommendation on where the other. No, it was a great question. And if someone feels strongly that it should be centered, it can certainly be included in a motion. Not hearing any strong requirements on that one. The other one, I guess a couple of other pieces I wanted to comment on, the question about the north wall signage. That one, I do agree with staff comments that if we could locate that in the Sunder Bay with a higher parapet and over the windows and awning, I think that would look better. And given that just around the corner to the east on the brick elevation is where the next piece of signage is, it doesn't seem to me that they need to be that close. You still have the visibility from the street. And the approach, I think that whole north elevation is going to be visible coming from the north. Sure, so. We've done that before. Like I said, again, it's Jeff Loob's preference to have it closest to the road, but we've centered it before upon a request. And then the only other question I had, and it was really minor, was on the west elevation, the signage there. If we're moving the north signage over the window and awning, if we would want to center the west elevation signage also over the doorway and awning, or just leave it centered on the wall above as you have it. Can I, I could go either way on that. And without seeing it, it's hard to know if it's going to feel too crunched if it gets moved to the left there. Don't know if you have thoughts on that. No, I mean, how we're showing it is tip would be prototypical to the Jeff Loob style. So I think their preference would be to leave it. And that elevation really isn't visible from the street. Right, it's kind of on the back side. Sure. So those were my thoughts. Any other questions or comments or thoughts from the board? Nothing. In that case, I would certainly entertain a motion. I would move forward as presented, but on the north elevation, moving the signage in the middle panel above the windows there, but leaving the signage on the west elevation as is. Super. So we have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? We're all clear that the only variation from what's being submitted then is moving that west signage. To the north, the north elevation. Right. Looking right at it. The north elevation, thanks. I just didn't know if we should see if the owner, by chance, one more time, whether or not he can hear us. Oh, great point. Kurt, are you there? Can you let us know if you're on the phone? I just want to make sure. All right. Sorry, Kurt. We're not able to get you on the line for this. So hopefully nothing here is to adverse to be able to do. I don't think so. So we've got motion to second. We've had discussion hearing nothing further. All those in favor? I signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion is approved as noted. Thank you very much. Thank you, everybody. See you tomorrow. See you tomorrow night. All right, so our next meeting is scheduled for August 8th, tentatively at least. And if there's nothing else, I would entertain a motion to adjourn. So moved. Second. Motion and second, all in favor? Aye. We are adjourned. Thanks, everyone. Hey, I appreciate everyone making it. What if we were to have one last, they wouldn't have made it on the go. So thanks, you guys for coming today. Appreciate it. Yes. Yes. Well, I had a bad something right before this. And so I just, I didn't know what it was.