 predicted it'll be probably near three four and probably under three that's number one right instead of showing a rise in the next quarter we'll have sixteen point four expenditure military this quarter and it'll probably drop to 14 the next quarter that it carries from July through September I don't know what this man will do but they all underestimate Bob McNamara's efficiencies you know what he thinks he's going to do he thinks he's going to cut back ammunition expenditure orders this year between a billion and two billion my gracious now he just got bombs running out of his ears because he decided we were going into war that we were gonna lay them flat we've had bad weather for two or three months we haven't used them the extent we thought we would we got them a lot faster than we thought we would to the point where we up to 16 point billion something in this quarter and his best projections next quarter shoving them as fast as he can getting as quick as he can want to get it over with it's just 14 something so that will be the drop the next quarter now I'm not much of an economist I have met anything like the world to experience these other fellas but I've told our people from the cables I read there I've just told my friends that I sit around the porch where the Johnson City the Judge Morrison said don't know much but I just said now boys don't get anybody on your payroll here you can't live with the next two or three years just tighten up let's don't do let's don't go further than you can you can live with them because I don't want to have much higher price people that you can't that you're gonna have to let go and cause a lot of bad feelings so don't get that number two you think you're doing pretty good now and you want to go out expand all over the place if I were you I just keep that in the bank I saw Herman bounds on the man did in good enough from 32 and he was pretty damn liquid and I'd keep a little watch on that and number three every one of these promoters that come in and won't do everything from run a ship on the lake to go out here and add extra extra capacity there's little plant you just tell them that what's gonna happen when some morning Ho Chi man comes in and says I've had enough now we didn't think that had enough in Germany and we didn't think that had enough in Tokyo and we were planning to go in with a hundred thousand men on the beaches but we didn't do it and I'm not going to tell anybody else this and I don't put much credence in it but before the day was over yesterday I had the most realistic the most convincing the most persuasive peace beater I've had since I've been present that was at three o'clock yesterday I hadn't finished this dinner here with the Prime Minister they will call it me out on a very urgent call Secretary of State and defend now I don't think it amounts to anything I'm not a fellow like Adelaide Stevenson that gets a drink in a bar and thinks that somebody about it it means he wants to surrender I'm not I'm too hard-headed for that but when I see them do what they did yesterday the most perfect execution in the history of our military forces according to the experienced military people they went in there and they were 300 yards away from Russian ships and everything else and hell they didn't even spot a water on them they just cleared up and flattened out and leveled out the oil refineries and didn't kill insubmitted and got on out and didn't lose the one plane we figured we lose 20 but when we when we go to doing that yesterday yesterday they had a man in Saigon and yesterday they had a man in Washington one talking Secretary of State one talking to our ambassador both up and saying that Hanoi had said that here were conditions they'd never offered before now we are analyzing those and we don't think I don't think much of them all of the diplomats do but I don't think so I don't think they've had enough yet but I don't think that we can forget I'm not gonna let my boy Johnson City forget that they can't wake up some morning and have $12 billion worth this stuff and I told my another damn thing when you appropriate this money to the general base spending bill you do it you do it if you've got your bank balance you've got $200,000 cash or they're not earning any interest anything else you see a damn pretty boat you like to ride in when you say what the hell I'm not gonna live always you buy it that's what a general does if you got to go get the money and you have hell getting it that's what's happening so I think that I'm saying to my people be cautious be careful don't get more people than you can endure if things slow down a little don't don't get a lot of stuff started here you're not gonna need when these boys come home don't raise too much hell about employees you can't get because you're gonna have running out of years here any day and if my camera by chance should fool Ho Chi Minh and cut off his oil flatten out his places and he should decide that he'd rather listen to Russia than China yeah and he incidentally supposed to be on his way to Moscow at this moment and the Chinese are just having hell inside their outfit right so I think the prudent thing if we could do it the wise thing from everybody standpoint the would be if our people just not to get off of their drunken binge on spending and to just hold things in reserve because we're gonna need every damn one of these plants we're gonna need all these public buildings and we're gonna need all this highway building and we're gonna need everything just soon as we turn some of these three million boys out of the army well that's right but we've got a lot of programs that will that can be speeded up when that happens and the only thing that impressed me in Dirksen yesterday was I think he's probably got something on you're being a man of austerity at this juncture now you've been right along that's there's no question about that but you know how it is in this business better than I do people forget that very quickly and at the moment I think if you could find some way of getting in the position of showing how aware you are of the inflationary threat and how anxious you are to contain it and be a have that as a posture and say just as soon as this thing is over well I'm gonna go ahead with a lot of programs that we may have to postpone our phase out at this juncture it seems to me that there's a good depth of what Dirksen's saying there I'm far any austerity program that we can put in that'll keep our budget under what I recommended that to anybody up there of support right so you just keep it up and I appreciate you information I'll follow through all right fine and have a guy I hope you get a few days rest I'm going to when you're going to hospital well I hope to go up around the 15th I'm gonna get a get a alterate or you're gonna alter either I'm going to the medical center in New York yeah no here in Washington okay Bill good luck fine thank you sir