 Mary-Helene Mordini-Yang, who's a wonderful friend, has also, when she gave election in my class last semester, she made the point that social-emotional learning are not two separate systems. And in fact, there's this parallel processing that's going on and where people are thinking and feeling and feeling about how they're thinking all the time. It's this huge negotiation to create meaning. How do I use the thinking and the feeling to understand what's going on around me? So we know if you look at how people are thinking or feeling about things, how people are thinking about things, and then you can get to mentalizing, and then you can compare and contrast that over time, we know that these skills are things that we develop in our life, but we only do that in contact with others. So the big idea here about being able to integrate with others, to network, to talk to other people, well, how did you take away that information about hold-ons that Tracy shared? Talking to each other refines your own thinking and understanding about the information. How do you make meaning of what is shared? Okay?