 But that was an error. So this is our second special common council meeting of this term Would the clerk please call the roll Holder person boran Here Donahue Felde Acle here Decker here Sorenson here Savaglio Mitchell there are eight elders participating. Oh Barbara Felde Okay, there are nine elders participating Very good. Thank you. Next. I ask you to please stand and join me in the Fledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands One nation under God Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. The next item on the agenda is public forum. So this assistant city clerk Mike Brunette You can step up to the podium ahead Can you please state your address? 1925 Salt 26th Street You have five minutes to speak All right, Squid Porco to city administrator three About the same amount of mirrors that we've had in the same time and pretty much every argument Everybody had going into the whole city administrator mayor thing was longevity Consistency if we have a city administrator, they're gonna be there forever That's gonna make everything you uniquely great because they'll have that perspective That's out of the way on the step two and it's like last time when I came up to spoke It was pretty much the same thing you had a you had a Formal council member this time. It's a current council member that is about you're about to go into closed-door session You're going to discuss. He is going to resign You're gonna go into closed-door session You're going to discuss the personnel matters regarding salary and whatever and then according to the thing You're going to offer Todd the job. This is not this thing on you Todd. It's the practice of administration And it's like you are also going to suspend the rules which is a very very very Shaboyan thing, but that circumvents the whole process should be used for emergencies and I don't know. I mean, I knew about this for a month at least you probably knew longer I don't I don't know what it is, but bottom line is the search is over. It's done Todd's the new city administrator and Not officially, but it's what it's going to be and that's all fine. If that's what you want to do It's what you want to do, but it kind of makes a Ridiculous it makes the argument of having to have an administrator and a mayor an obvious ridiculous one Because its bottom line is not only do you have all those extra costs generated in there But it's one of those back in the day the mayor had those duties and some sure they're Done the mayor is was on top of the chart and it went down and you had financed people You had your public works. They have whatever just like you do now. Nothing's changed But it basically at the top we have a completely Unaccountable on by the public unelected official and in this case, it's basically It's a councilman Jumping over from being councilman jumping over the top of the mayor and Becoming city administrator and it's like NFR councilman had these skills Which I believe they do not everybody has all the same skills to a degree, but it's like what upsets me is There was no updates with anything about as far as I know About anything what's going on and other than me finding out that our city administrator is leaving which is good for him Whatever he's doing. I'm happy. He's doing good moving on. I'm not happy I mean, I thought he did a great job. That isn't the point but you but everything gets handled behind the scenes and In reality, this is a city government. I mean and we're supposed to do what the people want And it's like we're supposed to get things done and I disagree with Todd on a whole mess of things But that's not even really The point of this whether I agree or disagree whatever on topics that doesn't matter because technically according to the Org chart or whatever he's in him he will be an administrator Which means he's not making day-to-day decisions, but we all know in reality That's a big part of what administration is and he who sets the table he was sets the agenda in whatever But going into it the last time we went around I think it was an alderman rind flesh and it's kind of like and I spoke and I said squid pro quo how he's getting it but honestly, I knew Daryl was Pretty much assured of getting that job here. There's not even another candidate at this point We'll never know who the other candidates are and I'm literally talking to Probably 15 people totally because nobody even knows this is going on But I'm still thought it was worth voicing that Concern with the procedure and the whole thing and it's because one of those why do we still? Need the different layers. What's changed? What's this? What's that? You have 30 seconds? All right, and bottom line is here We go again and this is sheboygan all over again, and it's and it's kind of like the community has zero clue What's going on and yet and yet here we go and it's like that in virtually every decision And it's like there's no rebuttal. There's no argument. Have fun in your closed session. I'm going home Thank you, Mike I Need to take a step back on the agenda and Ask for approval of the minutes entertain a motion to approve the minutes from the sixth council meeting held on June 15th Thank you for that motion in support. Is there any discussion on the minutes? See none. All those in favor, please signify by saying aye Opposed motion passes Next we'll go on To item we're going to skip item 3.1 We've had some discussion within the council and we're not going to go into closed session so item 3.2 Is going to be an interview with the final candidate for a city administrator to start things out I'd like all the person Donahue Our council vice president to review the interview process that brought us to our final candidate All the person Donahue 3.1 I thought we're skipping over 2.1. Oh, I'm sorry next is Is item 2.1 and this is a resignation of Todd Wolf is all their person Need a motion to accept that resignation There'd be a motion to receive and file the the Resignation second boring Okay, that motion is on the floor all those in favor Please oh, I'm sorry. We have to call roll on that with the city clerk. Please call the roll get in right now on my computer So I'm gonna have to give you a voice vote of a high Okay, I'm the same trouble I fill up Okay, boring I nine eyes Motion passes Now we'll go on to item 3.2 all their person Donahue Thank You mayor Just because the information I want to convey at this point is of Significant importance. I'm going to take my mask down just a little bit with my apologies What I want to do at this point is review the pretty much in the extent the duration and the content of the Hiring process for the city administrator And if you'll just bear with me because it's a it's a it's a bit of a report but as we all know our current city administrator Daryl Hofflin notified us on April 27th that he was going to retire from the city department The from the city as a city administrator We Reviewed that we knew that Daryl would not be with us forever and ever and ever and we are very sorry to see him go but we moved Immediately into a hiring process in that our time frame to replace Daryl With someone with his skills and talent and so forth It was very short 60 days. It sounds like a long time, but it really isn't and I think he'll understand why as I go on The first thing that we did was we asked Daryl to review the His job description. Are there things that you want to add or subtract based on your four years of experience? Are there different things that we should be doing and Daryl felt comfortable with the job? Description as it was written So We are very lucky to have a new HR director Vicki Schneider who was invaluable in this entire process and Vicki Has been very helpful in posing or Composing I should say questions that that that we can be asking and And she sent those along It was our intent at that time to interview each department head and as well all council members to talk about What they would be looking for in a new city administrator We Had a discussion on April 30th a discussion and outline for the hiring process So we posted the position on a variety of websites We don't We don't do newspapers so much anymore, but the position was posted on indeed the Wisconsin City County Administrators Association the League of Wisconsin municipalities the City of Sheboygan website the City of Sheboygan linked in and Facebook I Requested that a Special session of the council be held on May 6th to constitute the hiring committee and to really listen to what? Alders had to say in terms of what they would be looking for as we were starting the hiring process Alders started with I think the very good news that our city administrator position under Darrell's Efforts has been highly professionalized. We've really made gigantic strides in the past four years In terms of how the city operates how we treat each other how business is being done in terms of Other attributes and values that council members would be looking for you told us that you were looking for openness on financial matters One alder said I don't want surprises One alder said that that he really wanted to speed up what seemed to be a slow pace of change We talked about the need for a smooth transition For an administrator who is proactive and has strong development skills Alder's voiced substantial concern about our finance department The issues that the department faces and how to resolve those plans We agreed that the strategic plan process probably needs to be more innovative and that we needed to look at 21st century methods as we were attempting to solve the problems that the city faces I Thought it was a good meeting and gave a direction to the hiring committee the hiring committee was mayor van der steen me Alderperson Ryan Sorensen and also a retired city administrator from Theansville Diane Robertson I Thank the mayor for his insistence on including an outsider on the hiring team She was I think invaluable in all of our review of applications and our interviews and And we thank her for the work that she volunteered for us Between May 7th and May 12th Mayor van der steen And or Ryan and or me met with every individual department head The these discussions as well as the findings in the in the CLA assessment. That's the finance department assessment We're guiding factors and determining the qualities that we need for a new city administrator. I'm going to share some of the Some of the responses and insights and concerns that department heads voiced First of all, they were almost uniformly appreciative of the professionalization of the department and city management in general In terms of what they would be looking for in a new administrator they would I say they but you know These were individual responses. We needed a morale builder someone with a cheerleading Personality We needed a patient but assertive person someone who can coach and who has good communication skills as a good listener who's approachable a Person who would be organized enough to involve departments at early stages someone who can prioritize who Has the professionalism and respect that the the the position needs someone who will engage And and has team-building skills creating a good culture a team environment Getting rid of silos that might exist in the current structure The city administrator needs to roll up sleeves can't just sit in the office needs to get out and Help people own problems as a team Needs to have command of operational issues Needs to work side-by-side Department heads felt with the administrator and needed to be involved with all departments One department head is looking for a person who will step in when things are simmering and not boiling over Somebody who can rally the troops understand people person who has the ability to Take input and make decisions and to act on big decisions in terms of specific skills Certain skills were outlined an ability to fully understand the structure of the water department Embrace state debt collection processes understand economic development and understanding the market Handling multiple priorities an ability to deal with the CLA report solving it problems balancing costs with revenue coming in Seeing that the grant and donation policy would be revamped Dilling in skill sets pay grades creating and revamping organizing policies orientation for new employees Process improvement across departments and purchase process For example or the city wellness initiative really working on core services Getting support for both HR and the finance department and making resources available and smarter use of IT many of these qualities are already present in our city administrator and but We felt that this discussion with both council with you know all of you here and on the screen as well as administrators Really focused for us the kind of person that we would be looking at in terms of a potential new City administrator now as of May 26 2020 24 applications Were received All of the applicants all of those applications were reviewed by the search committee which chose six applicants to interview The other applicants were basically felt not to meet basic job requirements either in terms of experience educational background Or the like One of those six withdrew So on June 3rd and June 5th Two candidate three candidates Let me back up. We interviewed three candidates on June 3rd and two candidates on June 5th We did this by zoom and for those of us who have done phone interviews as of as the first Measure to determine who goes on in the process Actually, the zoom interviews were terrific and gave us a really good idea of the of the five candidates Who we thought any one of them might be a good fit for the? For the for the position our search committee met multiple times on zoom and by telephone and We reviewed all five applicants to determine which ones we felt would appropriately advance to the second round and two candidates were chosen to To move forward one more application was received The way our job Announcement read was that May 26th would be not the closing date, but the first review date and Because we were all already into the process the June 8th application was not considered Now we did interview both Candidates candidate a and candidate b here in the chambers Those were in-person interviews because we were wearing masks. It was Really not quite as satisfying as a zoom interview. I would have to say but nonetheless, they were More extensive more in-depth Questions and we spent some time Gathering answers and analyzing responses after each Interview we asked all department heads to come into the chambers here and to essentially conduct their own interview of each candidate That process went very well. I thought so again our committee met and We selected the final candidate who was Todd Wolf. He was one of the two who was interviewed in the second interview process and We Offered him the position of course Subject to approval of the Common Council the hiring committee does not get to choose who the new city administrator is The council gets to choose that and that candidate as I said was was Todd Wolf. We also needed Successful completion of background checks would which included drug screen criminal background check verification of education employment references credit check and we also asked Todd to take a psychological and leadership assessment On So all of that happened between June 12th and June 19th on June 19 We negotiated a tentative employment agreement with Todd again, that was a negotiation process back and forth and And we reached the agreement that you all have seen on board docs There was give and take Some things Todd wanted he didn't get some things we wanted we didn't get and it so in every respect It was a successful negotiation So we are here today to Have you as the council essentially conduct the third interview to see if Todd Wolf is the candidate that you want as as as your City administrator the reasons why the Search committee is recommending Todd at this point is that we believe he brings a unique blend of both business experience and municipal management We did send out Todd's resume and his cover letter so you can see that he has had extensive business experience particularly with management issues and process issues making things work better and When he said he was a lean six sigma black belt, I thought that was Jujitsu, it's not it's a management tool, but it is a way that businesses It's a process that businesses undertake to make themselves more efficient and productive Todd's been around Sheboygan for a long time He was at Paperbox for a long time and is currently at Kurchoa He has been on the council. He was briefly here as an appointee Left and came back and he has been on the council since 2015 He has been president of the council for the last at least two maybe three years He has chaired the transit commission finance and Personnel he has chaired does chair now public works the redevelopment authority Marina parks and forestry and capital improvements This unique blend of knowledge of our city And the many challenges facing us and this is not only in the finance department, which of course is of great concern and Is a structural problem We're just facing all kinds of challenges right now we need to very quickly prepare a budget And deal with a wide variety of issues from my perspective Todd is full of good humor and often very bad jokes. He has energy that is To me pretty stunning I think The energizer bunny has nothing on Todd Wolf I have seen him bring full energy to city matters after long days at work And he has an ability to work with others and make us feel like a part of the team so it is for those reasons that I That the search committee is recommending that we hire Todd Chuck I will defer to you on this, but it would seem to me We have two decisions to make one is whether or not we will make an offer to Todd and then secondly a review of his contract Would it be appropriate at this time for me to move? that Todd be hired as our new administrator or Or And then the contract be discussed prior to that vote or would you suggest another way of dealing with this that up in the on the agenda is there is a resolution and the resolution Points Todd as the administrator and authorizes entering into the employment agreement You could use that resolution and you know make that motion and then talk through both of those sets of issues If if you wanted to I think you can divide for the question in the resolution If you so choose do you have any opinion is to the better way? dividing the question Me it depends on how you divide the question so you know if there is a concern that Leads an alder to believe that they need to divide the question. I think then then you should do that but without hearing that I think probably the the best way to proceed would be to to make the motion in the resolution and then see where things go and I Sit from my perspective it would make sense to make that to to put that resolution forward in an undivided manner With a second and then we would begin discussion on both Mary Lynn I think we need to conduct the candidate interview first and then take care of that. You're right. Yeah my mistake I am so sorry. Yeah, but after we get done with that we will proceed so at this time I'd like to invite tad wolf to come to the podium and We're open for questions, which all the person would like to go first. I've got a couple mayor go ahead Vice President Donahue sent out an email today with the with the The first the first interview questions and then the second interview questions. I have it in front of me But if vice president Donnie who has those handy in front of her I would think we maybe could go over those five questions with Todd I thought all of the questions in the first the first round in the second round were very very very good questions Mary Lynn do you want me to read the questions or do you have them handy? Jim why don't you pick out the one you think is the best and start with that and we'll give some of the other Alders a chance to follow All right The first one the first one Todd is you will be starting on the city's 2021 budget as soon as you begin the job. What what will be your approach to developing the budget? Well, Jim, that's a obviously a really good question and obviously I've heard this one before The interesting part is there's quite a few portions of the budget that are obviously in in place and for review and The management team the direct the department heads have been tasked with With options for us to review to continuously look at ways to reduce our budget So not only are we looking at the budget for obviously next year But we also have to look at the ripple effect that's going to be happening, you know in 2223 and so on so what we really need to do is we need to get together as a group we need to see where we are with the the latest numbers that Marty has been working on with his team and we also need to work with the department heads and make sure that They've basically vetted all of their options to see what the best Combination of savings that we can do and then we need to look at it and see how is that savings going to be reflected in You know 21 22 and 23 and so forth and it also, you know, we need to look at The borrowing and the refinancing that that's also on the table and see if there's any additional options in that in those in those areas also Does that help you Jim? Yes, it does just to follow up on that Todd I've been asked by a couple constituents that have looked at you know have looked at your your background and It's not really a concern to me, but a couple constituents that You know, you have an excellent resume, but it's a little short on municipal finance And I and I realize you've been on the finance committee for many years and even shared the committee But if there are any areas if there are any areas in the municipal finance area where you think you may need some help What what means will you take either through coursework or Talking with contemporaries and other cities if you need help in that area, what would you plan to do to address it? Very good question. I've obviously been thinking about that Significantly, there's there's groups within the league of municipalities that you can reach out to I'll also be working with You know Carol worth who it has many years of experience working with I'll also be working through our groups You know with the CLCL RA is that I can't remember to acronym, but anyway I'll be working with the auditing group that that we work with as a city So we have great people within the city and we have great groups that we work with During our auditing process and those are the areas that I'll be working with and learning very quickly on Is there another question? Thank you. Is there another question? Feldy, please go ahead bar Todd one of my concerns is Strategic planning and the cost of some of the items that are on the strategic plan Coming off of the COVID-19 and less income coming into the city And I know you said everybody's going to be looking at their budgets, but How willing are you to put some things on hold or move them out a year or two? If it needs to be because we're having a money crunch in the city I'm very willing. I mean, let's let's all face it. We all have budgets whether it's personal or You know within the companies that we work and we have to be able to ebb and flow as I call it And you know this we're in unprecedented times We're in a situation that none of us a year ago would have even thought of so We we've been doing a lot of great work as a city trying to get our hands wrapped around Some of the deficiencies from years ago But we've always had the problem of planning for the future So we have a strategic plan that we've been following and we're at the end of that strategic plan But we we've got to start looking at you know revising it and and potentially extending it so My team and myself will be coming forward and we'll be talking about some of those options to the council and saying okay This is this is what our plan is This is what we've all agreed to and this is where we see That we need to go not just for like I said not just for 2021 But for 22 and 23 and and so forth we've got a we have to plan like I typically look at it plan for the worst and Hope for the best. Is there any other questions? I Have another one mayor from the list of the second round John Jim Jim Ryan Sorenson is next Thank You mr. Mayor Todd can you just talk about your your kind of view of sustainability and conservation efforts with the city and when you're looking At you know preserving parks or right now. We have a lot of lakefront erosion, you know What would you do as your role as a city administrator to prioritize sustainable efforts and initiatives within the city It's a really good question As we all know that the last time I believe the city actually did something look in a large manner With in particular with erosion dates back to the to the mid 80s mid to late 80s Unfortunately, it's not something we have money laying around for at this time So we as a community need to band together with other area communities along the lake We need to put pressure on on state and federal To say hey what what can you help us with you know, whether it's grants or federal funding or something? Because this the problem that we have in Sheboygan is not just Sheboygan related. It's all up and down The lake it's everywhere. I Know that we need to do is we need to reach out. We also need to plan for some of this stuff I mean we we need to have a plan and you know, the water will go down at some point hopefully and We still got to have it in our strategic plan for the future that we will address when economically we can and when Just mechanically we can get to the to the erosion areas as far as parks and that again We are very fortunate to have as many parks as we do obviously Because of COVID we've kind of locked things down a little bit, but things are starting to open up But we we need to continue to maintain them and we need to find better ways to To use these facilities and let people enjoy the great community that we have. Thank you Okay, Alderperson barn Thank You mayor This is question number two from the second interview questions a hypothetical the The city's finance department has very significant issues and making the transition from a department head Who ran the department for many years in her own? Individual manner the staff remaining after her departure is under trained Finance financial records are hard to ascertain Monthly budget reports for departments are difficult to produce What approach would you take putting the department back in order? Thank You Jim very good question Hypothetical is a really unique situation there that you guys are talking about What I what I plan to do is obviously working with the department heads not just I mean finance is obviously one of them That we have to work on but we need to focus on training. We need to focus on the processes The city of Sheboygan still is using the air AS 400. I believe it's called we've got to get off of that We've been on Munis for over 10 years, and we're not utilizing it correctly or to its optimum point That's going to be a struggle for some departments, but we're going to work on it together We're also going to make sure that we review and update all of the job descriptions We're going to be reviewing the processes that people are doing Some of the things that I've seen in my career is you get you get some longevity and people are doing the same thing year over year Even even if the even if it's not needed so you don't realize it But it's it's one of those habit forming situations where they're just used to the day You know day in day out day in and day out situation, so we need to review and see is Everybody cross-trained are they able to help each other and are we doing the things that are needed or are we doing things that are maybe They're they're wants but not needs, you know, where's the data going? So we need to use technology We need to make sure that the the That our employees have the training that they have the tools and that they understand what their expectations are And then we have to hold them accountable Just like we have to be held accountable by with what we do Is there another question? Go ahead Dean Take the mask off it's easier I'm gonna borrow one from on from here because I would like to hear the answer in this one Sheboygan is becoming more even more ever more diverse in the next school year majority of students in the sheboyganary school district Will not be white what opportunities and challenges do you see for the city as we become more diverse? What should city governments role or involvement be? Very good question. This is something that's in my opinion, you know, not just the city and a community issue It's a it's a it's a world issue. It's a it's a country issue We as a city need to be setting the stage. We need to be getting involved We need to make sure that people understand that we we want diversity. We were open arms to it Today's a lot different than it was when I was a kid and and that's good We need to grow we need to change sheboygan is a great community It's an old community. It's it's you know, and this is gonna sound a little cliche, but it's I Was going I went to some meetings big It's a German Russian group and it's funny how it was explained to me that sheboygan actually was kind of like a melting pot There was a lot of Germans that came here Dutch that came here Russians Greeks, I mean you think about that that's that's amazing the heritage and the ethnicity that we have here But yet we don't realize it We need to get more people involved with it. We need to be more open open-minded open open hearts and we have to You know get a group together that can help us spearhead that spearhead that into the future Thank you Other question. I have a question Go ahead Marcus Thank you Mr. Wolf if you wouldn't Mind indulge me for just a moment a presidency is set in the first hundred days What is your plan over the first hundred days to make the best impact? Well, I'm hoping that it's not going to take a hundred days to be honest with you We have so much that needs to be done so quickly We have budgets that have to get reviewed not just by the department heads and not just by finance But also by the council so my focus is going to be working very quickly on obviously our two two large large areas of concern one is obviously finance and We need to get them Structured a little bit better, but we've got to work with them. We're not broken We just need to make some improvements do some tune-ups. We're not going to rebuild everything overnight But we need to define what what is needed moving forward what in that's also looking at CIP and Working with the department heads and finding out what we can do in Strategically planning for the next couple of years not just next year, but the years further So my hundred days is going to be introducing myself to everybody making sure that we we understand that there's new processes and Practices that are going to be taking place Making sure everybody understands that communication is is key making sure that we are reviewing the the department needs and What the goals are where are we with the goals that are have been put in place by the prior city administrator? make sure that they have the the tools and the Resources to achieve those goals make sure that those goals are actually still on target to what we want to do moving into the future and Making sure that we we make a plan for not just Focusing on finance and HR, but also looking at other areas within the city that We feel need to be addressed in a in a quick manner Does that help you Marcus? Thank you Thank you next question All the person Sarnson, thank you got got a few more they're popping up Todd can you explain sort of your supervisor sort of in management strategy, you know How will accountability be different when you're working with the department heads? And how will you change that moving forward? very good question Ryan one of the things that I brought up during the interview process is my It's gonna sound kind of funny, but I have five steps So I'm I am somebody that I'm the kind of person that gets in the trenches works with people I like to understand the processes and practices so that I can help coach mentor train so Part of my five steps is basically the first step is coaching so I believe in coaching coaching is where you basically are working with somebody just You know in the office you're giving some some tidbits of maybe some improvement areas or Some training on some things, but it's it's really open and and it happens daily Those are things that everybody should be doing whether it's department within the departments or departments helping other departments and It's it's team building and it's communication and it's making sure people have that openness The next step is number two is is mentoring so you go from coaching to mentoring mentoring means that you really you're You're doing a much closer Review of assisting somebody you might find out that somebody doesn't have some training in let's say munis And that's why they don't want to switch over to munis. So maybe we work with them on that. Maybe it's internal Help you know working working with some other people that are doing similar jobs But it's it's a much more hand-to-hand kind of situation. So you have coaching and mentoring the third one is Training and where training comes in is making sure that that the employees have the tools that they need and that Typically when you're done with coaching and mentoring the deficiencies or the the missing link is basically identified Coach mentor trained those three should be cyclical They should always be happening for all of us whether it's me and you or any of the city employees we should always be coach mentoring training everybody within the group and the reason for that is You're going to continuously make each person better with everything that they do Unfortunately step four is basically discipline discipline isn't always a negative It's perceived as a negative But it's still it's still a building tool and that's why you have different steps within discipline The whole concept and we've all been disciplined At some point you get that aha moment you realize it. Oh my gosh my boss really does mean I've got to do this This is part of my job. So you have your coaching your mentoring your training and sometimes it does go to discipline 99% of time when that happens the person has that aha moment and a choice is made and they they they get it They understand this is this is the vision. This is the mission of what we need to do here Sometimes though you have the fifth step and that's dismissal Sometimes that's a hard decision But what I found in my career is typically when I get to the fifth step either the employee has moved on they've resigned because they realize that The job that's expected and what they want to do don't Basically align so they move on on their own Sometimes you still have to sit down with that person and have them understand that things have changed we've taken these steps and It's just not a good fit So those are my five steps and for me in my in my career and management It's been a very very good success and I've I've I've never had anybody sitting in my office going I didn't see it coming or I've had people that have left and said You know Todd, it's just it's not you. It's me. It's just you know, not that we're dating But it's it's we need to move on and they realize that it's not the direction they want to go So that's kind of that's real quickly. That's my management tactic and and explanation Another I got another one So right now we have an empty industrial business park And with the national recession that we're enduring and with everything going on with the coronavirus You know, it is difficult it's going to be a difficult task to To to recruit and find you know businesses that want to relocate there and as a city You have to make some pretty big payments coming up To support the business park So I guess what is what would be your approach to work with our planning and development office? And hopefully attracting and recruiting businesses to that park There's you know, even with this challenge Companies are Globally are having to recreate themselves. I totally agree. We we did a great job as a city You know developing the industrial park for continued growth The city does need that for for the future. It's unfortunate that we weren't able to land some some businesses prior to that But I from what I understand an industry with with my background Businesses are recreating themselves But the benefit of the cove it for the United States is that businesses that were once promoted to be Off-seat offshore are now coming back So I really think that what's going to happen is and we've got a great work ethic within the Midwest within Sheboygan County. We have some great companies within our community There's a lot of companies that are going to start pulling their those factories back to the US and There's a lot of stuff that's going to change So we need to promote the fact that we're here. We're shovel ready. We we have the community We have the support. We have the infrastructure. Everything is here And it will come back. We built it. It will come It's we just have to make sure that we're marketing it right that we're communicating with these companies And we've got to put our hand on the pulse and we've got to watch what's going on It's amazing how quickly things are changing and how quickly the United States and companies Realized how dependent we are on other countries, you know, not just Asia but other other countries in general and Nobody wants to be caught like this again So I think the benefit that we're going to see is you're going to see the need for automation the need for manufacturing the need for hard working individuals and All of that plus many other things are here in Sheboygan County already So we just have to expand on it. Thank you Any other questions? Mayor Park, Feldy. Yes, sir. Please go ahead Okay, I'm gonna go there the number one survey question is Sheboygan we're still chasing that down And seeing it still at the number one I want to know Todd as He's been an older person for long enough and now is looking at a city administrator What can you do to make sure we can get more of these roads fixed? Well, first off roads are one of my pet peeves if for anybody that that Talks to me about it. What we need to do as a as a council and as a city is we need to have a Realistic plan we need to actually have a budget that actually says okay It's gonna we've got to what 216 miles of roads in Sheboygan not counting alleys and things like that But we got to put a plan together. It might be a 10-year plan It might be a 20-year plan, but we need to get everybody to understand This is what the plan is and this is how much it's gonna cost and then we've got to start Finding ways to budget that money so that it's we know we're not gonna get it overnight But at least we know we're nibbling at it and if we're not putting this much money in We're gonna it's gonna go from say 20 years to 21 years at least then you guys know what the ramification is There's too many things. I think that in the future. We need to have a better understanding of What the cost benefit is for projects? Whether it's part of our strategic plan or part of our just overall infrastructure of of yearly maintaining it I don't in the years ago. There was really never a Designated amount of money that was put to roads guaranteed. It wasn't like 10 million dollars a year or something. I'm just making that up, but there was it was never Defined and locked in so when things started going south people would just pull and shuffle and move things around We need to have a plan whether we like it or not We have to have a plan and then once we have that plan if somebody says hey, you know what and again I'm just making this up if it's a 20-year plan and someone says I can't wait 20 years Well, then we've got to look at what what can we give where can we pull some money from? What's it gonna cost to take it from a 20-year to a 15-year plan? We right now? We just don't know and Things have changed. We we do a lot more of the roads ourselves As far as you know overlays and things like that, but we also know that The roads are crumbling faster than we're paving them and fixing them So we need to know what that's going to look like in the in the near future Thank you Next question. I have another question, Mayor born Todd this this position is all-encompassing and you've got a tremendous amount on your plate And I really appreciate the high energy level I've seen from you over the years that I've served with you But my question is once you get into this for you know a month or so Do you think you're gonna need an assistant to the city administrator? What do you think you might be able to delegate and what would you be looking for in that person if you if you need an assistant? I believe Darrell has one or had one and Just give me an idea what you would be looking for and maybe what that person could help you with Thank you, I do agree that the city administrator's position does need assistance and Darrell Mr. Hoffland had had that assistance For the majority of the time that he's been here, but he that assistance was also Feathered into The finance department and we need to get assistance into finance So to me we should be able to do the same thing that we were before bring somebody in that can help out in finance and also with budgets and nose mu-ness and we can and Obviously can help Help me with reports and stuff like that that are going to be needed to keep the communication Open with everybody as far as like we've been doing I want to keep going with the great Reports that Darrell has worked very hard with his team to develop Thank you for that question anyone else I have a question older person Phillips here go ahead Thank you Todd looking at the budget moving forward and understanding that we are going to have a somewhat lost at least of revenue For example looking at room tax and how that might look going into the summer month A lot of businesses are facing this challenge and having to make contingency plans and reduce expenses Have you personally put any thought into areas of the city budget where we could? Reduce our expenses Yes, it's going to be a difficult difficult discussion on that topic just because of the fact that The city over the over the years has continued to downsize as I call it We do have to understand that you know the city provides a service to the constituents and that's what they pay us for so we We as as a city need to make sure that we're Optimizing our resources optimizing our services But we also need to look at the services and find out if again, you know using the cliche their needs and wants Are they things that are that are nice to have or things that they need to have? We The city does a great job with all of the things that we're doing But there may be some areas that Constituents really don't value as much as we do We need to also look at technology and and see what we're doing and see if there's ways that we can Automate things so that these services can be Continued but at a lower cost From the city's perspective again, the city is like a business. We are a business we need to continuously look at how we do things and make sure that we're doing them as efficiently and as effectively as possible and Those are those are things that we need to do it and review together as a council and as a city administrator and Find areas that we can potentially make some cuts Thank you another question Well, if there's no other questions then we can proceed on to the Item 4.2, which is resolution number 40 of 2021 by all the persons down here with Sarnson to appoint Todd Wolf as the new city administrator effective July 7th of 2020 and authorizing the appropriate city officials to enter into an employment agreement with Todd Wolf All the person down here Thank You mayor At this point, I would move to suspend the rules and adopt the resolution the the Reason for suspension is that Administrator Hofflin will his last day will be July 3rd, and we need to move with due speed Is there any objection to suspension? Seeing none then we have a motion from Alder Donahue in a second by Alder Sarnson that item is before us for discussion I would like to make a comment, please. Please go ahead Thank you. I just wanted to express a little bit of disappointment in the process although I do think Todd is a very qualified candidate and As many of the characteristics That I think we are all looking for and I do have faith in the Members of the search committee that they have done a very fine job. I just think there was a little Lack of communication between the search committee and the rest of the council. I didn't you know last we talked it was We're looking for a new city administrator and and what are what are we looking for in that city administrator and now here? We are we've got one one Applicant before us. I know that it was a process of being narrowed down, but I would have preferred to see the top view candidates be brought forward to the council or at least have had some Communication or discussion or opportunity to maybe review and compare Some of the top candidates So I just wanted to make sure that I shared that concern that I have and again That's not to say that I don't think Todd is a qualified candidate because I do Thank you for those comments. Is there any other discussion? Mayor I just wanted to mention one thing. I had some discussions Had some discussions with our HR director today and Vicki was very kind to not only We all were aware of what the starting salary was going to be of $150,000 but I asked I asked Vicki what the total package would be and The total package for Todd including health insurance dental insurance and Are the city's contribution to the Wisconsin retirement service the total package for for Todd will be 186,000 $606 for the for his contract and That does not really surprise me And I think for you know for a qualified individual We have to we have to step forward and and give give our city administrator that support But I just wanted to let the council know if they if they hadn't done their research themselves that that's what the that's What our all-in cost is going to be for the city administrator. Thank you Thank you, Jim for those comments Any other discussion? Mayor I just want to if I could I'm going to support Todd tonight for this position and The reason I'm going to support Todd is I think it's very important that we have a candidate for city administrator that come in that can come in and Hit the ground running If we would have had an outside candidate and I'm sure there was a couple of them that were pretty good But the problem there is you're going to have a candidate coming in that it's going to probably take a year to get up to speed and Todd has the background with being an alder and working with many many of the department heads Either being a chairman of the respective committee or building Relationships with them since he's been on the council and I think that's going to be invaluable as we go forward that Todd can hit You know can get off to a fast start and make some changes that are necessary and Dig in and work on this very difficult 2021 budget, so I have you know, I have no I'm convinced that he's the right candidate and I'm convinced he's going to do an outstanding job for us. Thank you Thank you for those comments Alderperson Sarnson Okay Any other comments or discussion with that? I'll ask the clerk to please call a roll Ackley foreign Decker Donahue Felde Mitchell Phillips I Savaglio Sorenson. Hi There are nine eyes Motion passes unanimously Congratulations, Todd. We'll We have a name plate down here that you can take home for your past experience on our city council Yes. Okay, Todd. You have some comments you'd like to make mayor city council City attorney if you can see me And city of Sheboygan residence It is with great gratitude and council support that I have been chosen to the to take this position of city Administrator for our great city starting July 7 I am taking this position at a time of great change Uncertainty and questioning about the lot about our lives together As the past Alder and council president I have assisted in our development and growth I've always been conscious of enforcing best practices and budgetary stewardship Our future path will be exciting and laborious for all For all of us as we are in an uncharted times Our future path our overall views of the pandemic our local and state and economies Will all provide opportunities and challenges as we move forward. I Personally bring years of business management and leadership that will assist Will assist us in the future growth and development while working with the city's department heads We we will be reviewing and working together as a team to determine and develop a strategy For the areas that need to be the quickest and most attention Additionally, there has been a righteous demand from people in our community That we look at how to do business with each other how we treat each other What is in our hearts about how we are different and how we are the same in what we want for our families Our prosperity our sense of what is what living in our city is all about. I have much to learn About these issues, but I but it is my pledge to you here in this in the community That the city government each department in the city Will in weeks months and years Look deeply into the diversity means to us and Inequity looks looks like how we are to conduct our business to ensure a just and equitable and inclusive community for everyone who lives here Thanks again and together and only together we can continue to help make our city community Open to all to live work and play together. Thank you Thank you Todd Next of adjournment older Donahue Second thank you for that motion and support all those in favor of adjournment, please signify by saying aye Opposed we stand adjourned. Thank you for your time tonight