 Hey you guys, my name is Brittany and welcome back to my YouTube channel. You guys in today's video I'm going to be giving you a in-depth comparison between Saxon math and math you see So you guys if you are not new here to my channel You already would have known that I made the switch from Saxon to math you see And I just wanted to give you guys a video just showing you the comparison between both of the programs Especially since I have gotten my feet A little bit wet in math you see we have been doing math you see right now for about a month now And I really feel like I got my feet wet. I kind of like know how the program works And I have been loving it but to really be honest A lot of you guys have been asking me like for a more in-depth comparison and how I feel about both of the curriculums I just want to say this first off before I flip the camera around and show you guys inside of these levels Is that I really love both of these math curriculums One just bets better suits my daughter than the other and that's why we ultimately made the switch However, I feel like Saxon and math you see I really feel like they are equally comparable, especially for the methods that they teach mathematics Saxon is your spiral traditional approach Whereas math you see is your mastery. It's full on mastery and conceptual approach to mathematics However, at the end of the day, both of them get the job done. It really just depends on your kiddo and how they learn So I'm going to go ahead and flip you guys around and we are going to do an in-depth comparison between Saxon and math you see Okay, you guys we are going to start off by going over Saxon math I'm going to show you how this program works and how a day of lessons would look in Saxon math I do have another video on my channel giving you like a more in-depth view of Saxon If you want to learn more about Saxon math, but for the sake of this video I'm just going to explain like how a lesson works and how the program overall works So here I have Saxon 6 5 and Saxon 7 6 I don't have like the full textbooks and the solutions manual because I went ahead and I Sold that portion of my Saxon math, but I do have Saxon 6 5 here Still so I can show you and kind of give you like a more in-depth view of how this program actually works So you when you purchase this program you will purchase it in three parts You will need your test and your worksheets and inside of here It has all of your speed drills your facts practice and the test that you're going to be going over each and every day Here is the solutions manual, which has all of the answers to Your problems, which is really really cool about this solutions manual is it actually has all of the problems like worked out So you don't have to have like any guessing In figuring out like how to solve these problems for your kiddos Especially as they get up here in the mathmatic concepts You can kind of just look and see how their problem was supposed to look and the solution So this was my solutions manual that I used for Saxon level 6 5 And then here is the big bad boy, which is like the student text is pretty thick you guys But this goes over like your lesson And the uh mixed practice for the day So i'm going to go ahead and start off by showing you guys the tests and the worksheets That the kiddos would do so before they start their uh saxon lesson They will do their portion, which is their warm-up portion and in their warm-up portion It consists of their facts practice and their mental math So uh in this book saxon 6 5 since we already completed all the pages are going to be filled But I hope you guys still can kind of like get a good glimpse of all the things that the kiddos will learn in their facts practice So it starts off by them doing addition facts in the morning It's a variety of uh speed drills that they have they have addition Starting off then they go into subtraction and division and uh multiplication and towards the end of this um this level in particular The kiddos will be simplifying fractions Uh in their speed drill they will also be uh doing a mixture of turning in percentages Into fractions as well towards the latter end of this book These pages that you're seeing right here is the investigations extra worksheets that goes along with each investigation And I'll kind of go into that as I open up the student text for you guys But this is where you'll have like all the activity pages for your investigations as well so um Here again is again some of the other uh ways that they will have the kiddos doing the speed drills each day And this one was again turning percentages into fractions And I think that's where the speed drills ends and one thing I really enjoyed about this program was really being able to see Week by week beryl's progress when it came to Doing these speed drills and the time that she was able to get these done And it really allowed these facts to be more fluent for her. So as she was doing the problems It was helping her out a lot. So I definitely will say this facts practice was a great addition I know you can also do facts practice in your homeschool by using uh other technology and methods and ways like that but sometimes Pen to paper is you know great when it comes to that so Facts practice these will take her anywhere between like you said seeing a minute And maybe like five minutes a day to start off her saxon lesson This right here is saxon seven six and um These are some of the facts practice that she has and some of them are pretty similar to the first one But as it gets towards the latter end of this level, um, the kiddos are going to be uh reducing fractions in this level Um, what else are they going to be doing? They're also going to be changing uh fractions into percentages and uh decimals Yeah, so changing the percentages Interfractions and decimals in the latter end of this facts practice book as well. So that's where uh saxon Seven six will end off the kiddos In the end of saxon it does have the tests and I don't have all the tests again Like I said because bria actually completed six five. So I have all of her tests stored away Uh me keeping them as far as like our record keeping but this is how a saxon test will look One thing that's really cool about the saxon test and here i'm going to zoom you guys in One thing that's really cool about the saxon test Is that when the kiddos do the test if they get a problem wrong like right here with this fraction Question if she got the problem wrong It tells me right here that this question came from lesson 42 And then I can direct briel back to lesson 42 and then we can review that concept So, uh, it's no like back and forth and a page is trying to figure out like where those concepts was learned It's really really cool. Uh, the kiddos get a test after every fifth lesson So, uh, you really are able to see your kiddos progression as they go through these tests Within this level or within whichever level of saxon because after every fifth lesson You're able to see engage where they're at and you're really able to stop and pause if you see It's a concept that they need to work on more And uh, one thing that's really cool is that if it is a concept that they need to learn more about They do have a supplemental section in the back of the student text that the kiddos can go to So i'm going to go ahead and uh turn to a lesson and show you guys how a day would look So as you guys can see the day will start off with the speed drill That will last anywhere between a minute to five minutes depending on your kiddos capability And then we will go into a lesson. So I think I went ahead and I pulled out one of briel's old, um Workbook so I can kind of show you guys a lesson that she's doing. So I think I picked Lesson 116 Is the lesson that I picked to kind of go over to you guys of how a day of saxon would look So again, uh, she would do her fax practice and in this case her fax practice was um Her fax practice was going from percentages to uh writing it in fractions, which was like the test k Form we would do the mental math and she actually was doing the mental math portion through Nicole the math lady and nicole the math lady was actually how briel was learning her math lessons through saxon I did not have to teach the lesson Even though this text is written for written towards the kids where the kids can actually Read this and learn the math practice themselves and then go on to do the lesson practice She would actually watch nicole the math lady to get her lesson practice in so um Um Here is this lesson. This is briel's uh school nest notebook that she used Um, I really really love using grit paper For saxon because the kiddos are learning the skill of copying and writing down their uh answers like they have to write down The problems into their notebook and using grit paper was really really helpful So as you guys can see right here when she would do nicole the math lady nicole the math lady will give her some problems that she would do And she would practice those problems during the practice set and again this is just regular traditional math the way they're teaching her the concept of Adding and what are you doing finding common denominators and comparing fractions is what she was doing in this lesson So this is what she would do in her video through nicole the math lady Then after she would finish nicole the math lady She would go and do her lesson practice and for this portion her lesson practice went from a to I believe um a to In is where her lesson practice went to so here. Let's see Yeah, so right here is the problems that she did so from a to n She would do all of these problems right here in her lesson practice Then from there she would go into her mix practice now for her mix practice What I would do is I wouldn't require her to do all of these problems right here in her mix practice As you guys can see each mix practice Has 30 problems. So in her mix practice, I will only have her do evens or odds So here is brielle's work from that day. So this is her nicole the math lady Her lesson practice that she did and then her mix practice, which will include at this day She did odds. So she would do the odds And that concluded her math lesson and as you guys can see this is a traditional spiral um Where she is continuously reviewing the older concepts that she learned in the text From previous lessons and she is being introduced to a new math concept every single day Now sometimes when she would do the math concept They will only do like a part one to a concept and then Lessons after that she would do a part two of it and then uh, it will pick up from where it left off But in the mix practice, it will always have a continuous review Of each of the other problems that she did like this problem right here was from less than 116 This problem right here was from lesson 32 and 61 So one thing is that saxon is known for is that continuously Spiral when it comes to their curriculum and this is how the program just works overall in general So this is um saxon math I forgot to show you guys in saxon that saxon also has these investigations There are 22 investigations where they will go over like a specific skill And this one right here. They are actually teaching the kiddos how to use a protractor Which was really really cool. So brielle learned about obtuse right and uh straight angles And then in the test and worksheets They will have like a little uh exercise that the kiddos can practice using their protractor And she went ahead and practice using her protractor. So again, there is 22 of these investigations And they go over a variety of topics when brielle was doing saxon seven six She actually learned circumference and how to use a compass in one of the investigations as well So this is also a part of saxon math that I forgot to show you guys earlier So now on to math you see Okay, you guys here is math you see and I am newer to this program Then I am to saxon. So I really hope I do this program justice and explain into you guys How math you see works and everything like that. So I'm going to do my best But I have been uh using math you see at this point for about two months now So, um, I kind of got my feet a little bit wet. So we're going to go ahead and give this thing a try So epsilon is pretty similar to saxon in the fact that with each level you have multiple parts to it So as far as epsilon, uh, the level goals, you will always have your instruction manual Which uh has the teaching the teaching portion for you If you decide not to utilize the uh dvds Or the live streaming now for the epsilon level I went ahead and I purchased the digital pack Which has the dvd live streaming and it also has the uh instructions manual Online for me to use. Um, however, I do have like the heart copy instruction manual as well Um, so again, uh, this is your instructions manual Which has each of the lessons the overview if you do want to teach it to your kiddos instead of them watching the video Led by uh, mr. Demi In the back it has all of your answers and it's very similar to saxon Where each of the solutions is actually like worked out for you So you don't have to like think about how the kiddos got their answer. I mean, it's all right there for you um, I love these types of solutions manuals because You really are able to target the point where your kiddo made a mistake and kind of like go from there And you don't kind of like have to guess by just seeing the answer if that makes any sense. So Um, this is again the instructions manual You also will have your student work text and this is the student work text for epsilon. Um Another part of it is your test, which you will get a test after each uh lesson I actually again, like you guys can see, I actually already have um, some of the tests are already pulled out like on monday Brielle is actually going to take uh this test number 13 And then we're going to be going into lesson 14 after she completes the test So, um, I already have some of them already used because again, like I said, we have been working through this program for About six weeks. So each of the levels again, they have like the three books similar to saxon and then your uh video lesson Here is zeta's instruction manual the student work text and the test Now with these levels is really really interesting is that uh with math you see They use the integer blocks for the beginner levels when you get to the epsilon fraction levels your manipulatives actually change to these uh fraction Fraction overlay kit This fraction overlay kit is really really cool because the kiddos is actually Learning their fractions through using these overlays And I really love sam brielle use these overlays as she is working on her problems And she is figuring things out. It's so crazy how um, something as simple as these overlays have really been helping her In solving her fraction problems. So this right here is the halves thirds fourths fifths Six eight eighths tenths sixteenths, and then it has unit pieces And in the back right here, it does have like a little manual of how the kiddos Do use their fraction overlays with the concepts being taught and um brielle really has uh used these overlays at first you guys i'm not going to lie I was being cheap and I was like, you know what? I don't need these overlays. She'll do just fine, but um We did fine having these overlays be very beneficial in teaching brielle fractions Now for the zeta when she gets to this level she's going to be using this um algebra and decimal insert kit And um, I'm not too sure exactly how this one uh works just yet because we're not on this level, but um This is how the kit looks on the inside So um, I'm excited to kind of see how they teach the decimals and percentages with uh these overlays and things like that in here, so um Yeah, we will see when brielle gets to this level and um, hopefully I will be able to like make you guys like an A review as she gets to zeta and show you guys like how they actually use the uh algebra and the decimal kits Um, so yeah, so this these are the components to the epsilon and the zeta So you guys I'm going to give you a closer look into epsilon and then I guess I'll give you a quick flip through of zeta Since I already have it here so you guys can see it. Okay you guys So the main difference between saxon and math you see is the biggest difference It's that saxon is your spiral based program where you're going to be covering each of these concepts that are actually in both epsilon And zeta at the level of saxon seven six I really feel like saxon seven six is a combination of epsilon and zeta If you kind of like put those programs together But saxon is in a spiral program or spiral approach. Hopefully I'm making sense But um, yeah, so the main thing the main difference is that we're going from a full-on spiral to a full-on mastery However, uh some misconceptions about uh math you see is that uh, it doesn't have any review And as you see when I open up this a student work text, you will see that Math you see does bring back some of the older concepts in this level That was in the gamma and the delta level uh for a little bit of review in the systematic review portion There are not covering those concepts again. How a traditional spiral brace program will cover those Concepts again. They just have it in there for additional review However, the main focus in this level is uh fractions. So hopefully uh, that makes sense So this right here is the student workbook and we're going to kind of get like a closer look and some of the pages in here Brielle actually did so um This right here is a pretty good overview of how uh epsilon looks So these are all the concepts that are going to be taught in epsilon There are a total of 30 lessons However, each of the lessons can take you anywhere between a week for your kiddo to master Like as you guys can see uh, brielle only did three Worksheets before she was prepared for the test to master it Whereas this week right here when she uh, learned about the rule of six infractions She spent the whole week plus to test mastering that concept. So um, this is kind of like your checklist for The lesson practice and the systematic review before you get to your test in um epsilon So hopefully that makes sense that uh, this program since it is mastery Is not meant for your kiddo to do every single lesson practice and every single systematic review practice They are doing this until they have mastered the concept and they can pass the test At least that is my understanding of how the program is working and how it has worked for brielle so far So as you guys can see I kind of dropped a ball and filling out This portion for where we're actually are at in the epsilon program. So In the beginning, uh, this is how the student work text looks So, uh, your kiddo will start off by watching their video at the beginning of each lesson From mr. Demi on how the concept is taught and uh, they do their lesson practice now for brielle We've been doing about two lesson practices a day So, uh, for the first day when she did it, she did lesson practice one a and one b And then I realized okay brielle got this concept in uh teaching the The portion of the fractions how she was learning two-thirds of and then she had some fraction word problems So I was like, okay, I think she's ready to go ahead and uh do a systematic review So, uh, we skipped lesson six and we went straight into her systematic review of this lesson And this is again how the systematic review looks where they're going to be reviewing the new the concept that they just taught them However, they're still going to give them some practice of older concepts that they went over So in this case, they gave her a quick review on a perimeter right here and then um, here goes the next systematic review, which is one e And uh, we didn't do this because at this point brielle was ready for the test Um, this portion right here, which is the one g. It always has some type of application and enrichment. Um Lesson and this one is really fun. The first lesson. I actually skipped but moving forward I make sure that brielle actually does this application and enrichment because it's really fun Uh hints to solving word problems. It has some type of puzzle Some type of uh added a review in this portion and she's been really enjoying this page So on the days that she does her test for Um, the lesson I have her do her application and enrichment that same day So, um, one thing I definitely can say about math you see you guys as you can see Compared to saxon the pages are very clean And it's not cluttered at all. So if you have a kiddo that, um, they kind of get overwhelmed by seeing a lot of problems on the page, uh, they definitely won't have that feeling with, uh, math you see because Everything is laid out so simply. Um, I'm actually working through this program the math you see, uh primer With my four-year-old right now and I can definitely say it has the same type of format where the pages are Nice and clean and um, I definitely love that So as you guys can see for a lesson two and three brielle kind of just went straight to the test And uh, we actually didn't do these lessons. She watched a video and she was confident Because we were coming from saxon and this was a spiral or saxon is spiral. So she did cover these concepts Um, we just I had her watch the video so she can see how mr. Demi taught it and then she went straight to the test So each lesson again, we have your three a three b And three c for your lesson practice And then after three c you have your systematic review Which then has your quick review of order concepts from previous levels And you have three pages of your systematic review And then you have your application and enrichment and that is pretty much how the program goes So after each lesson you do your um test right here in the uh epsilon book And again, the tests are so simple and clean each test only has 20 problems And um, I just love the format and the flow of this Your kiddo is just working and honing in on one concept at a time However, it still reviews the older concepts that they went over in previous lessons So um, they're never going to kind of like forget what they already went over because it's always going to have that review Of what they went over previously in the fractions So, um, I'm just going to go ahead and continue to like flip through here One misconception I definitely will say like I said before is that uh math you see does have some portions of review because as you guys can see In the systematic review, they are reviewing over a multiplication right here and towards the latter end of Epsilon the level they will be reviewing over other things like Measurements and fractions They're going to be going over circumference in this level as well. Where is it? Um Let's see It's towards the latter and they're going to go over um circumference and they're going to go over Other concepts other than fractions. Oh here goes the measurements right here. Uh, they have a Pretty good bit of work problems I was really surprised because when I first heard about math you see I heard that they didn't have many work problems But they do have a good bit of work problems, especially in a systematic review And um, I make sure briel does all of the work problems because I really think they're beneficial um Right here. There are graphing points in the coordinate. Um, so While the focus again, like I said is on fractions in this level They will be covering over other uh concepts as well from taught from previous uh lessons So here's the latter end of um epsilon and as you guys can see Uh, they start over going over basic algebra towards the end of this really preparing the kiddos for what's to come in uh zeta, so um I love again, like I said, how clean the pages are the kiddos is honing in on one concept at a time And they really are a master in it and uh so far so good Like I said, I'm still pretty new to this program But that is pretty much how a lesson will work in epsilon and how a week would work Again, the weeks vary based on your kid's skill level And if they master that concept faster or not now if your kiddo does Need more practice on the um the digital toolbox, which is completely free for you You're able to access uh worksheets where you can generate more worksheets on the concept If they go through all the worksheets in the um actual student work text, which is really cool So they have ample amounts of opportunity to master that skill before uh moving on So i'm going to give you guys a brief flip through of zeta and how it looks on the inside as well Okay, you guys so this is zeta here is our instruction manual student workbook and our test Right here and i'm just going to give you guys a brief flip through again It's exactly the same where we have our lesson practice systematic review and all the concepts taught it is uh again 30 lessons and the kiddos they take their time mastering each one of the lessons This level uh goes over only decimals and percentages However, as you guys are going to see as I flip through the pages They will be reviewing some of the concepts taught that was taught in um epsilon, which is kind of cool So right here, this was like one of the first concepts that was taught in epsilon that they have as a quick review So again, the focus is not going to be on um Fractions or multiplication or division, but they will bring in that review from the previous levels because uh since This is a full-on mastery after your kiddo has finished each level of uh math you see They will have mastered uh all in that particular uh subject that they needed to learn Now for me since I was coming from a spiral brace program to a mastery based program One thing that I noticed that brielle was missing in her overall um mastery was a larger Um multiplication and division practice. I noticed uh, she didn't go as far as As far as math you see went. So what I did was I just had brielle practice Um these type of multiplication problems. Oh, sorry. This is uh decimals, but I had her practice um four by three and long division um as she was working through the beginning parts of epsilon for the first six weeks until she mastered that skill So when it presented itself in epsilon, she was of all ready to go So that was a way that I was able to kind of like fill in those gaps for brielle and coming from a spiral to a mastery based program um, and I didn't want to teach her how to do Division and uh multiplication the way that math you see taught it because she already learned it and I didn't want to confuse her I just wanted to make sure she knew how to do a long division long multiplication And she mastered that skill along with learning um fractions from epsilon again because I was coming from a spiral program It's kind of it kind of was hard for me to place her But when I figured out uh where she needed to be at um, it definitely has been a seamless uh transition for her And as you guys can see right here here goes some more review of the fractions in the zeta level So again same format one concept at a time Nice and clean pages and the kiddos can really hone in on that one concept Um, I know a lot of people's concerns with coming from a spiral program to a mastery program is like If you do decide to push your kiddos back into public school or if something was to happen That your kiddos will only have mastered like one concept One thing I would say is that once you get to these levels, especially like once you get to zeta And pre algebra and on I feel like uh what they're covering in each of the levels is pretty spot on So I was okay with making this transition for brio at this level Because I know once she gets or once she completes per decimals and percentages She's pretty much going to be on par with her other. Um, I guess students that are in like public school As far as learning the concepts if anything was to happen And we were to move away from homeschool and go towards like public school She would her uh math magic skills would align with what the public school is teaching once they go into like The pre-algebra geometry calculus level It's still mastery in its approach But it's not as mastery as like the beginning levels where they're just doing math or where they're just doing addition multiplication division for the whole year um these Upper levels kind of like a line up when um, you are comparing it to other programs Um, so yeah you guys this actually is uh, math you see thank you guys so much for watching today's video I really hope you guys enjoyed just like this in-depth view like really seeing inside of saxon and math you see I know a lot of you guys like myself You're not close to like a homeschool store where you can kind of really put your hands on these curriculums and like See them firsthand. So I know how helpful these videos can be. I mean trust me. They're very helpful for me as well So I really hope this video answered all of you guys's questions about Saxon and math you see if you guys have any more questions Feel free to leave them down below in the comment section And I will do my best to answer all of you guys questions Especially as we are like in search for like our next year's curriculum and things like that Um, so yeah, thank you guys so much for watching today's video And I look forward to seeing everybody in my next one. Bye