 Okay, good morning everyone and thank you all for joining class. Today I was not able to go to Bible college so thank you for the in-person students joining as well along with the online students. Welcome to class everyone. So can one of you please lead us in prayer? Anyone? Can I ask Shiv Kumar to lead us in prayer please? Shiv Kumar, can you lead us in prayer? Okay. Okay, thank you Nina. Yes, can you please lead us in prayer? Nina Santosh, you had your hand raised up so I thought you're gonna lead us in prayer. Father God, we thank you and bless you for this day Father. Father, we love you and we praise you Lord. We submit ourselves to your loving and Father. Help us to understand and practically do all these things what we are hearing Father God in our lives. In Jesus precious when we pray. Thank you so much Nina. Okay, so today we'll continue looking at chapter 3. We were talking about people when we are ministering you know Christian ministry or a building God's kingdom is all about people. Sometimes we mistake Christian ministry to just be like building organization or building churches or you know doing crusades or you know different programs but Christian ministry is all about building people. Okay, we know they know. Anand is it possible to please mute your mic? Thank you Anand. Okay, so Christian ministry is not just about writing books or writing songs or how many churches we built or you know how many places we've gone and done mission work. It's not about how many crusades and programs we conducted but Christian ministry is all about ministering to people and all of the others what I just mentioned just now all of that is actually to build people you know into Christ's likeness bring them from darkness into his marvelous light you know build them up to lead them into a life-transforming you know encounter with Christ where they are becoming more like Christ discipling them building them up in the ways of the Lord maturing them in the ways and in the faith in their Christian walk with God. So that is all about Christian ministry. Christian ministry is basically building people in the faith building them in the world building them to be more like Christ. So we're looking at various areas even as we minister to people what are some of the things that we need to keep in mind okay. So we looked at some of them last week so we'll continue on and I think it's I can't tell you the page number because it's different on the PDF and it's different I think for some of you who are following the the recent publication of this book I have the old publication so the pages vary but we are on this point where we're talking about overcoming personal insecurities okay. We all as we journey on in life from the very from you know from the time of when we are kids and we grow up you know we all grow up with various kinds of insecurities because of various situations in our life and if those insecurities are not dealt with you know it manifests itself in several ways even as we are you know working or ministering in God's kingdom in this field in this vineyard. So you know if you are insecure basically you know you come to a place where you know you're in you become insecure even as your identity in Christ as a child of God and then you begin to you know form an identity that you are a minister because you're not secure in yourself and who you are in Christ then you have to have all your you know if people don't address you with your full name with your titles with your degrees if they don't give you you know a place of prominence in meetings if you don't get the front row or if you don't get the place on on the platform on the podium you get angry you get offended because you you know you're overlooked you are unnoticed and basically all this arises from your insecurity but if you know who you are in Christ irrespective of whether people give you the highest place of first you know the most important prominent place of seating or you know whether they address you with all of your titles and your full name and give you all that honor you know you know irrespective of them whether they do it or not it does not matter to you because in your identity is secured of who you are in Christ so all of these honor by men that's not really or women that's not really matter to you because you are secured in your identity in your calling and who you are in Christ you know if you are insecure also you know you're insecure that other people are getting all the attention suppose you know if you're working in a ministry there are other men and women of God and they are getting the you know the the you know they all the privileges they get in the honor they are applauded and when it happens you become somewhere insecure and then you begin to you know become jealous you pride comes in pride sets in this jealousy hate and then you are basically gossiping about that person to put that person down you know back fighting about that person to the other colleagues to the other ministers or you're basically when you are preaching or you're teaching you're trying to magnify yourself you're basically saying you know in your sermons how anointed you are as a person how powerful you are and then you try to you know put down other ministers or men and women of God in the city because you don't want the people in your church or you don't want people in your organization to go to and minister with other organization with other men and women of God so you put other ministers down you talk about how you know some of the sins that they have committed or you know you can say that they're even teaching wrong teaching so don't go to that church and also you know you come to a place where you are you know not giving opportunities for other ministers men and women of God for example if you're the senior pastor in the church and there's a junior pastor who's just come in and you know he's so powerfully being used by God anointed his style of preaching everybody likes and so you're becoming very insecure as a senior pastor and so what you do is you know you basically don't give that the junior pastor or the associate pastor the privileges of preaching or teaching you just give them some you know sideline job to do but the main things you do so that you are portrayed or you're seen as someone who is a preacher and teacher and there's no one better than you so all of these you know insecurities rise up within ourselves because of you know some of the insecurities that we have faced in life which we have not dealt with and it's manifested in all of these ways and sometimes we can even you know boast about from the pulpit how we are connected to men and women of God around the world you know how we are under their leadership how we are under their spiritual covering and so people can look at us and say wow you know big man of God a great woman of God but all that is basically showing our insecurity so what we need to do is we need to deal with some of the insecurities that we have within ourselves which you know can would have risen out of you know times when even when we were children you know when we were overlooked by our parents our parents not give us their tension they liked our other siblings or other brothers and sisters more than us or how are because we were not good in in studies in school and teachers put us down and you know or we've since we faced several failures in life where we've not been able to overcome all of those things and those manifest as insecurities in some of these ways that I've just mentioned so what we need to do is we need to you know ask God you know and ask the Holy Spirit to deal with those areas and to help us overcome those areas the next thing is don't provide a platform for people with personal agendas now you know whether it's a Bible study group or whether it's a church setup or whether it's a ministry or you're in a mission field you know people come in and they want to serve God but some of them come with pure motives some in the pure motives the pure heart some of them come with improper motives you know they have their own personal agendas in their hearts in their minds so before we give a response made main leadership roles or responsibilities to people who want to you know help out or who want to minister it's it's good to test people okay that's what Paul tells Timothy in First Timothy chapter 3 verse 10 says but let those also first be tested then let them serve as deacons being found blameless so basically Paul is writing to Timothy in this chapter and he's telling him about you know what kind of people you need to choose as leaders as deacons as ministers in the church and he's giving him all of these the criteria as we looked at it in the previous chapters so he's you know basically telling him that before you make somebody a deacon deacon is somebody it's just basically like you know serving in any ministry TV now we call them as volunteers you know the other word for deacon is servants in the Bible and so basically you know those who are ministering volunteering in different fields he says basically test them first so what are the areas that we need to test them you know test to see if they are you know just give them small leadership small responsibilities don't give them any titles or you know leadership roles and see if they're being faithful if they're committed if they're working with the rest of them together as a team they align to the vision and direction of the leadership they're not doing their own thing you know they're willing to humble themselves to listen to work together as a team in unity in oneness and then when you look at their life and their ministry and that example that they're setting their relationship with other people whether they're following the vision and the direction of the leadership of the you know whichever group then you know you know you can you can entrust them with the bigger response please with bigger roles you can even give them a title so best you know first test people before you give them a leadership roles and responsibilities okay there are people who come in with different kind of wrong motives and agendas it's basically they come you know saying that they want to volunteer and serve but you know they want to use this as a means to be recognized so that they can launch out their old ministry they're gonna launch out their own church they can promote their own personal ministry or business people different people come to church they have their own ministries they have their own businesses so they come into church and then they say okay this is a good potential church where I can get many people you know to buy my products or be part of my business or be part of my own personal ministry so they try to connect with people they come they want to serve in church and they want to come into leadership roles and response please and slowly we see that they're using this as a means to promote their own personal ministries and their own business now you know that is not a correct motive not a correct agenda which they are really serving in Christ so in the church and serving Christ to the church or the ministry that you are doing so it's better for us to test people see them because you know all of this has happened in church there are numerous examples I've seen myself you know and so it's important for us to first know the act the motives the agendas of people why they want to serve give them small you know roles and then if they are faithful and sincere they're just not looking for position and titles and to promote their own things then you can give them bigger leadership roles and responsibilities the next thing is don't fight what you don't do not understand you know it says here that in John chapter 3 verse 8 the wind blows where it fishes you hear the sound of it but you cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes so is everyone born of the spirit so basically Jesus here talking to Nicodemus when he wants to be born again so he's saying that the Holy Spirit is like a wind just like the wind we do not know where it's coming from where it's going the same way you know the Holy Spirit works in different ways ways you know we know that the Holy Spirit whatever he does is in accordance with the written word of God whatever God does does not violate his word does not go against scripture okay but we saying that we can also say that we cannot put God in a box which means we cannot confine God to his word of course God does not negate his word he does not go against his word whatever he says you know we can prove it in his word but there are times when you know God can you know work in ways or the Holy Spirit can manifest in ways that we can we never expected you know sometimes God can use people that we have not even thought of you've not even expected God can work or manifest in several different ways which is not we don't even see in scripture and what do we do when when we see this we don't fight it we don't say that it is you know what the people are doing or what is happening in that church or what the move of God in that place is wrong that's that's not the way that we need to you know react but we need to know that you know the Holy Spirit can work in unusual ways and unexpected ways he can manifest in unusual and unexpected ways so we don't criticize because we don't understand you know and we don't find it in scripture or it does not fit our way of doing things or our way of how we expect God to do things so what do we do at such times we just watch and wait if it is you know if it is the work of God then that it will bear fruit if it's not the work of God then it will slowly if it's just coming out of the fleshly zeal or it's a flesh manmade manifestation then it will be something that will fade away there will be no fruit none of them will benefit and one good scripture example that we have is here in Acts chapter 5 when the disciples the Apostles were bought before the council and they were said they said to them you know you're not supposed to preach and teach and do science miracles wonders in the name of Jesus and they said you know you judge for yourself the Apostles said to the people in the council the Pharisees that were there you know you judge for yourself whether we should obey God or men and then there you know there was a big uproar in the council and they put out the Apostles and only the people of the council the Pharisees the Sadducees were all there and there was a Pharisee named Gamaliel you know who was a teacher of the law he was well respected by the people and he says this you know he says men of Israel take heed for yourself what you intend to do regarding this men and now I say to you keep away from these men and let them alone for if this if this plan or this work is of men it will come to nothing but if it is of God you cannot overthrow it lest you even be found to find to fight against God so what this wise man Gamaliel is saying here is hey listen to me you know don't fight among yourselves you know if this is you know and don't have anything to do with these men just let them be alone you know if it is something of the flesh is something of their own thing that they have started you know if it is a movement of a man-made movement then we know that it will not last too long okay and he gives an example of a man who just came up and there was an uprising of a man and everybody were following him but what happened you know that man just fell up he just fell away and you know the whole group broke apart so says this will also happen if it is of man but if this is of God then you know you will find yourself fighting against God and hence he says you know don't fight against these men just wait and watch if it is of if it's something that's man-made it will not last you just fall away but if it is something of God then you know you can't fight God okay so the same principle we can apply in this context you know when you don't understand things some things are happening in the church it's a move of God it is some manifestations of the Holy Spirit and you say oh it's not biblical it's not found anywhere in the Bible you know if it is of man then you know wait and watch for the food you know because God says you know whatever is made of hay and straw you know if it's man-made it will be like made of hay and straw and you know when the test of time comes it will be burned by fire but whatever is of God it will stand for eternity so watch the fruits and you know that ways you will know whether this is a move of the Holy Spirit so manifestation the Holy Spirit or if it's just a fleshly man-made manifestation okay some things people say and do are not worth your time like it says in Ecclesiastes chapter 7 verses 21 and 22 can somebody read that please Ecclesiastes chapter 7 verses 21 and 22 anyone also do not take in heart everything people say let your heart your servant cursing you for many times also your own heart has known that even you have cursed others thank you Nina so here it says do not take to heart everything that people say okay and also if you look at Proverbs chapter 20 verse 3 it says it's honorable for a man to stop striving since any fool can start a quarrel okay you know when we are working with people we know Christian ministry or kingdom building is all about people but the greatest challenge are people themselves you know working with people working along with people it's a great challenge okay so even as you serve people you know you'll be realized that we cannot control them we cannot control we are not responsible for their attitudes for their behavior for the choices and the decisions that they make you know people are you know quickly they quickly applaud you they they say nice things but you know the next day they can turn around and they can retaliate they can criticize they forget you know all of the you know what you have invested into their lives how you have ministered to them you know the support and encouragement you have given to them all of that they can just forget in a moment in a day they can you know they can suddenly criticize you they can point out your flaws and your shortcomings and you know at such times we need to be strong yes there are times and when you know when people criticize us they point out to our flaws and our shortcomings we need to take that we need to correct ourselves that is just going to help us as a person to become more better okay so that we can serve God in a better way we can become more Christ like we can serve people we can minister to them in a better way when they are willing to take criticisms check ourselves correct ourselves but you know there are times when people unnecessarily criticize you know they retaliate they just know you know that they are behind our back they are you know back fighting behind us and they are you know basically criticizing us there's nothing that we can do you know don't quarrel don't fight against them because it says it's honorable for a man to stop striving don't quarrel only a fool will start a quarrel okay so don't quarrel with them you know just be focused on the call of God you know even as things happen just give it up to God and you know God will take care of things because it is his vineyard it is his field it is his kingdom he knows you know who is for him who is against him who is you know for the work of God who is doing things that is going to bring strife and division and when God steps in when you hand it over to God when God steps in and fights your battle you know things just go very smoothly unhindered you know but if you if you try to you know meddle with things if you try to you know get in and try to you know argue or discuss things or and all of that it'll you know make things even worse it'll worsen things you know they'll be strived there will be division unnecessary waste of your time and energy so you just focus on the call of God and you know continue strong in what God has called you and God will take care of such people so don't retaliate don't quarrel you know at times we try to defend ourselves don't do that as well just learn to pray and release all of those feelings those hurt to the Lord and keep moving ahead for what to what God has called you to do I think this is this is something that I have really followed I have done I've always told the Lord that you know I don't have the time and energy to fight people you just take care of them God and I've just seen God just beautifully take care you know either move them out of the team or you know basically build up my relationship they're able to see what I'm doing why I'm doing what I'm doing they're able to see God's plan and purpose in everything and they just come and realign themselves but it's just wonderful to see how God works and fights your battle for them for you okay when people give you feedback you know just take whatever is necessary whatever is unnecessary leave it don't get moved by what people say like we just read here I do not take to heart everything that people say okay the next thing is leave offenses behind it's not worth carrying them with you a good example here we see is in Galatians chapter 4 was 11 and 12 can somebody read that please Galatians chapter 4 was 11 and 12 anyone can read Galatians chapter 4 was 11 and 12 please I'm afraid for you less I have labored for you in vain brethren I urge you to become like me for I became like you you have not injured me at all thank you see rather so here we see you know Paul saying you know writing the church at Galatia and this is a church that he has basically labored in bringing them to faith and you know now they are being easily swayed by other people you know basically Jews who have become believers now and they're trying to bring him you know telling the people that you have to keep the law you have to keep some of the observance of the law the circumcision of the flesh and follow other rituals and things like that and the people at Galatia the churches of the believers at Galatia easily you know buying that they swing towards that and you know and Paul is writing to them and he's saying that you know I'm afraid for you less I have labored for you in vain okay he's taught them that all of these keeping the law keeping the rituals all of this in the new covenant really does not matter what matters is your faith your you're made righteous by your faith just like Abraham was even before the law was given was made righteous by his faith because he put his faith and trust in God and so he says that you know all that I've labored seems to be in vain because now you are buying into these you know what these Jewish believers are telling you of keeping the law of keeping the Old Testament practices of the law and but Paul is saying that you know in spite of me teaching you and helping and building you in the faith and you know being a model to you as well so that you can follow my lifestyle my way of living he says you know you have not injured me at all even though he's saddened in his heart even though he's heartbroken even as he's disappointed but he says you know you have not injured me at all that means he's telling the you know I'm not offended you have cost me nothing to get hurt and that is so wonderful okay for a man to say that you have not injured me at all but what you're doing is wrong but he's saying you have not hurt me and also you know we see that in another instance you know Paul makes a mistake you know in the one of the missionary journeys the first missionary journey when they go Paul and Barnabas go on the first missionary journey they take along with them John Mark who is Barnabas's cousin and you know somewhere during the first missionary journey John Mark says he does not he's not interested in continuing with them so he says he's not going to be part of their missionary journey anymore and then he stays back and this greatly offends Paul he's not only disappointed but he's he feels offended and then we see that when they go on the second missionary journey you know Paul tells Barnabas okay let's set sail to let's go on our second missionary journey and Barnabas says you know will take my cousin John Mark and Paul says no it comes to such a serious you know strife among them that you know Paul says no and Barnabas says no we will take him and it becomes like a divide between them becomes a division and hence Barnabas says he will go separately with John Mark on his own missionary journey and Paul takes Silas and goes along with him in the second missionary journey but we see later on that you know Paul realizes his mistake and he corrects himself and we see that you know he takes John Mark later on he realizes that you know John Mark was not being lazy or he's not you know compromising his call or you know it's not being complacent but there was some genuine specific reason why he did not want to continue with them on that missionary journey later on he sees you know John Mark seal his passion for the Lord and he takes him back in his team so John Mark continues to minister along with Paul and we see in Second Timothy Paul writing to Timothy says get Mark and bring him with you for he's useful to me in the ministry and we also see that he talks about John Mark the cousin of Barnabas you know he says when he comes to welcome him when he's writing to the letter of Colossians to the church at Colosse so we see that you know when Paul knows his mistake is able to correct it and he's able to you know work along with John Mark minister along with him see his potential and also work minister along with him for the extension in the building of God's kingdom so two examples that we see here you know there are times when you know when we are building up people and they go away from the faith or when they do things that greatly disappoint us we shouldn't take it very personal and Paul says you've not injured me at all but we continue to minister to them continue to build them up in the faith and at times when we judge people wrongly and when we see their potential we need to correct ourselves and also you know continue to minister along with them and use their gifts and talents for the extension and the building of God's kingdom okay people grow people change so be ready to let go of them you know people some people journey with us for a season some people journey for seasons together and a few of them will journey along you with you from start to finish but you know different people at different times you know who we have labored for them in the Lord we have brought them up in the faith we have churnied along with them we have built them up you know we have trained them the skills they give say they have they have you know we have released them into different roles and functions in the church or in your ministry or in your mission organization wherever you are serving and then it comes a time where you know they want to go out and venture out and do their own ministry start their own ministry or go to another place and start their own work or business or they want to go to some other church you know we at those times we don't want to let go of people we feel that you know hey we have invested in your life you know we have taught you we have built you up in the faith if it was not for me you would have been nowhere you wouldn't even know your giftings are calling and all of that so we expect them to you know be with us for the rest of our lives well that is not a right heart attitude that is bossing with people that is controlling people that is being authoritative of people but just as we lovingly welcome people into our team into our group when they want to leave you know just be happy to release them let them go you know don't hold on to people you know sometimes we feel that you know we've labored for them they have to labor for us you know we have feel that that attachment to them we also feel that when they leave and go who will fill up their role there'll be a gap who will fill it up you know all of these is ungodly soulish attachments and this is something that is not spiritual this will hinder the work of God so we need to guard ourselves you know as from such things we need to let go of people just bless them send them away with joy wherever the Lord is leading them and if they come back later on you know welcome back in them in your team don't say hey you left us and went and now you didn't do well in that place and you're coming back and say okay I teach him a lesson or I teach you the lesson I will not you know give them any roles of response please no we shouldn't do that when they come back welcome them back but when they want to go they'll just send them with a blessing with a joy just release them and knowing that you know God will bring somebody else it's God's vineyard it's God's field what you're doing you know just like God brought in that person he's taking him away from that place God will surely bring someone else to fill in that role so don't be insecure don't fight against it don't be disappointed just bless people let them go and God will bring somebody else appropriate to help or to fill in that role or that vacuum that is that is left empty there okay flatly don't accept it don't give do not give it you know people can flatter us by saying different things about if you're a worship leader you know how well you lead worship how anointed you are if you're preacher teacher leading a Bible study group prayer warrior you know they can praise you and they can flatter you you know when they do that just you know just give the glory and honor to God okay just thank them and you know polite people like to stand them but in your heart just give glory and honor to God and you can also say okay all glory and honor and praise to God why do you need to do that because you know when we continually receive flattery from people and then comes a person who gives you one criticism not so-called criticism or some area you can improve or some area they have seen people in that same in that same position in that same you know whether it's a worship team or a musician or somebody was a prayer warrior they can they would have come you know from some other church and they said none in that in that church or you know I went to this church and I just observed this they did things this way they did things that way and I really liked it I'm just giving you as a suggestion and you know if you're a person who's constantly used to flattery you know not you know you come to a place we are not willing to take suggestions from people you're not willing to take you know correction then it'll become very difficult for you okay so you know being a place where even when people give you those the flatter you just give the glory to God just thank them give them the glory to God so that you will be in a place where you're also open to corrections to suggestions for improvement and also how when people tell you how you can do things better you know you'll be welcoming it off it and you will take it on and that will basically help you improve okay like Psalm chapter 115 verse 3 says not unto us oh Lord not unto us but your name give glory because of your mercy because of your truth so when people flatter you you know give God the glory and honor because we know that it's not us it is it is God who is working in and to us and we know what kind of vessels we are and how God is basically pouring out his anointing and basically using us okay the next thing is you can listen to people's ideas but you make up your own decision you know there are times when God gives you different ideas thoughts suggestions you can share it with the team you know there are few people who will take it that are there would be few people who would you know who would would not want to you know sign up for it or they would think that it's not an idea a good idea suggestion but if you've heard from God you know that it is what God wants you to do and there are few people who stand by you who you know they hear from God they also say yes you know we sense this is from God and just go about doing it people can give you ideas and suggestions some is in alignment with what God is called you as a leader giving you the vision to do you can take it on but there are some ideas and suggestions which you know do not align or go along with what God has called you to do or the vision the planet purpose is given then just listen to those ideas and suggestions and go with what God has asked you to do because ultimately you're not here to please man but you're here to do what God has called you to do okay do not permit anyone or any individual to control you you know there are people in our teams if you're the head you're leading a volunteer team or the pastor or you are head of an organization you know you have people in your team who are established business people rich people famous people intellectuals you know they try to use every opportunity to influence the leader the pastor in a nice way but they're basically trying to control the pastor tell the pastor what he should be doing what they should not be doing leader what they should be doing what they should not be doing some of them may be sincere some of them may mean well but you know however their approach their motivation is wrong because they have experienced you know fame or they've experienced you know you know you know they have done well in in the in the second world it and you know their leaders and they feel they're entitled to control things even in church or in the ministry but that can be wrong so you know listen to their suggestions you know but you don't have to be controlled by anything and everything that they say okay take their ideas inputs but finally the decision that you need to make as a lead leader because you're accountable to God for the vision that he's given to you or if you're a pastor you're accountable to pulpit and the ministry of the church that God has and trusted to you at the same time you know you know we could also help these people intellectuals those in the business field rich people famous people equip them and how they can be better you know two words of what God is entrusted to them how they can extend God's kingdom in the secular world in the business world in the intellectual world how they can you know bring in God's kingdom and his kingdom brain rule presence wherever God has established them okay the other thing is you know when you're in leadership you're not only accountable to God but you're also accountable to your family and also you're accountable to you know leaders above you those who are in the governing and regulatory body so our lives must be transparent should be open enough for anyone to examine anything about us and you know any area where they can question us we can answer them with a clear conscience okay having said that you know there are also super spiritual people in our church you know prophets prayer warriors and you know they come and they try to influence the leader by saying you know that says the Lord or this is what the Lord has spoken to me and they try to be an intermediary between the pastor or the leader and God okay it's good to hear what God is speaking to these people whatever God is speaking to these people would all be in alignment with what God has speaking to you and giving you the leader who's he's giving you the vision the direction the leading so it would be alongside that so you know listen to them play about whatever prophecies whatever they say you know that says the Lord what's what God spoke to me you take it before God ask him and if the Holy Spirit is you know affirming that then you can move ahead but you know don't be submitted to all of these prayer warriors you know or those you know those who are prophets intercessors prophetic people you know don't make decisions based on their prophetic words or revelations you are in a place of accountability before God God will speak to you as well affirm things what is also coming from other people and then go ahead with what you know sense God is leading you and guiding you okay and spiritual ones with caution you know there are people who are in a volunteer teams you know some of them who are doing various roles and responsibilities in the church sometimes when we tell them to do some things you know they say that this is what God spoke to me or I will do as the Lord leads and this is actually a cover-up of their own desire for their own independence and their own in subordination they don't want to be under the leadership they want to do whatever they think whatever they sense whatever they feel is right and they can come across as really super spiritual people you know I had I have an example in one of our teams we have I noticed this person who was super spiritual and would always say you know would would not speak up much but would always the find him I would find him not aligning himself that what you know what we are doing as a team but he would say you know the Lord spoke to me the Lord told me this the Lord told me that if he questioned him why are you doing this this way you said this is what I sense is what I prayed about is what God told me to do and I remember once you know we were you know it was in children's church we were just together you know there was classes going on and the Holy Spirit was telling me go and sit in that class go and sit in that class and I was like Holy Spirit how can I just go and interrupt and sit in that class because as a leader does that look good I'm just going and sitting and you know it's trying to judge that leader what the teacher what will the teacher feel and I was walking up and down the Holy Spirit saying go and sit in that class and then and finally obey the Holy Spirit and I went and sat in that class and I was shocked because we were all you know following a particular topic of the curriculum that we were all doing but this specific teacher who I told you about you know was teaching totally something totally different a totally different topic and I was quite shocked and I was quite sad in my heart and I didn't interrupt the class I just got up and then after class you know the person himself said I want to I want to speak to you I said yes even I want to speak to you and then the person said you know I I just sensed God telling me to teach this topic and I was like you know okay but then I said you should have discussed that with me you should have at least shared it with me then I just gave him this example I said now you know there are two teachers in this class one Sunday one just imagine one teacher is talking about Holy Spirit and the other Sunday you're teaching them about parables then how will the children coordinate one Sunday Holy Spirit one Sunday parable what if pastor does that in in the adult church if one Sunday is going to be teaching us about the gifts of the Spirit the next Sunday is talking about parables the third Sunday comes back about another you speak about another gives us a spirit and the fourth Sunday is talking about parables will it be able to even correlate in our minds as adults and we are here teaching children and the person kept saying you know this is what God is speaking to me this is what God is telling me to do and then as a leader I said no sorry we cannot have this going if you would like you please teach you know the topic that we are following otherwise you can make a decision see that was so sad but somebody here was so super spiritual who's saying that you know this is what God spoke to me this is what God showed me to teach the children that was very sad to hear because you know if the person is not going to be aligning themselves to the vision the direction the guidance of what every everyone else is doing as a team then that person is actually saying you know God spoke to me or told me to do this it's like you know they're trying to assert their own independence their own insubordination or as a cover-up as you know God is just telling me or God is speaking to me okay we'll stop here we'll come back after our break and we'll continue if you have any questions you can the meantime post it up in the chat section we'll meet at 10 or two because I have gone two minutes over time so we'll meet at 10 or two thank you everyone see you after the break