 The second round of the debate is the adoption of Citizen Amendment Act 2019 is a positive step for India and we'll repeat that one time. The adoption of the Citizen Amendment Act 2019 is a positive step for India. Now in terms of the flow of the debate, those speaking for the motion, you will speak first in round one. There will be two rounds. The first will be an opening statement lasting three minutes. The second round will involve questions. Now please pay attention to your serial number. In round two, you will be given an opportunity serial number wise to ask a question to your opposite number. Okay? So the speaker one will ask a question of speaker one against the motion and vice versa. Right? So please pay attention to the opening statement of your counterpart and try and address the questions then. Now in terms of giving a response, you may answer the question and then you may elaborate or go off tangent so long as you want to pick up and provide any rebuttal to what has been said by other members. Okay? So firstly, you must answer the question. Secondly, you can give any other points in the rebuttal. Is that clear? Good. So serial number one, speaker for the motion that is the representative from St. Joseph College. Please take your time. Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, respected judges and my fellow competitors. I am in the motion site. I think the option of C was the implementation of this our country. Why? Because being a democratic country, we use this humanitarian work. Through this humanitarian, we bring four important aspects. Number one, economic boost to coordination of different graduates in within the country for helping the underprivileged people in the country. And lastly, support as well as respect of religion. Why I am thinking about this for the four principles is that with this four principles, I think we can grow our economy as well as our country with stronger booster. Many facts and figures have been turned off. Why? Because people don't know the exact answers of this CAA. And so with this, I think with the implementation of this four principles, ours that can go through this important as well as make stronger nations in the world, as well as I think this, the implementation of C by the BGP is not on the religious basis, but on the minorities of the people who were persecuted. Thank you all. Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Moderator, judges and all present here. I will be speaking today against the topic adoption of citizenship act 2019 as a positive step for India. First of all, let me start with facts. Our Northeast population is a bigger population of 41 million. That's it. And out of this 41 million, Assam has 30 million. So the rest of the Northeast state, it has just the population of 11 million. So now let's see. The Bangladeshi people that Modi is trying to bring in, there are more than 12 or 13 million of Hindus. So that alone covers the rest of the population of the Northeast. So now let us see as, as they put this man in action motion, since this illegal immigrants will be coming, it will be a matter of few years that they probably the rest of the Northeast as well. I mean, this is probably the first step, the citizenship and then act. There might be other acts coming up in a new future that we may not be aware of. I mean, if this is a big step for the government, and if it is successful, I'm sure they will be taking up other steps to secure their vote back in the Northeast and secure their power over the government. It's nice to help other countries and other refugees as well. But how can we expect ourselves to help other people when even our own country is not able to fight basic amenities for so many people? I mean, the recent NIC about the registration of citizens, there were many problems in Assam and many of the bona fide citizens were not able to register themselves, especially the lower class Muslims, the poor citizens. They were not able to register themselves, even if there were bona fide citizens of Assam and India. So how do we expect things to go smoothly in the citizenship man, act so I strongly stand against the topic of the Citizenship Amendment Act. A very good afternoon to one and all. I expect that just two persons and all my dear friends. Thanks for the motion. I support the CAE because now what we see in India is that most of the people they are protesting against the CAE because most of the people they don't know what CAE. Recently I saw in the news that the news anchor asked a few students, one CAE, but their answer was like CAE is a CAE. They don't know what is CAE. They are just protesting against the government without knowing what the topic is all about. The Citizenship Amendment Act is all about the foreign immigrants. Foreign immigrants like the Christians, Hindus or any other religions except the Muslims. Because the Muslims, they are already huge number in their country. The Afghanistan, Pakistan, they are their country only. So I don't think that they should be able to enter India. And the team, the CAE and people just supporting, I think that this is a big problem for us. We don't know what we are doing but just supporting, just protesting for the government, CAE or whatever it is, GST or HEHE. We never satisfied whatever it may be, the bill or whatever. First, we need to, even I was against the CAE but after being true with the CAE, even I support this because it's for the good only. The Constitutional Amendment Act, the Act that was the entire country enraged and revolted was solidified on 11 December 2019. I strongly stand against the notion that this act is positive for India. The Indian soil was partitioned in 1947 and this act marks the partition of the Indian soil because it is against India's principle of secularism. In 1976, the Indian government included the work secular in the preamble under the 42nd amendment of the Indian constitution and this act is totally antifascist to what India stands for. This act clearly violates Article 14, equality before law. Article 21, right to life and Article 15, that no citizen of India shall be discriminated on the basis of religion, race, caste, sex or place of birth. As for Article 13, dual theme in constitution, this act violates or infringes the rights conferred under the fundamental rights and as such it is considered to be void. This act spells on specific categories of people who will be guided citizenship and what is more striking about this act is that you would be, because in citizenship, because you not only have to be a religiously persecuted minority but you also need to belong to a specified list of religion to be granted citizenship. Yes, our country has given shelter to over millions of migrants but without ones asking them what their religion was. It has been said that it shall be exempted from this act under the IOE but how do you explain the number of job losses, demographic changes and ecological damage that this act will bring along in our states? We in Indonesia people hardly get jobs, government services or even state colleges outside the state and this act takes away our very little hope that we hold on to. What about the, our Assamese brothers and sisters who are facing ethnic threats? What about the Assamese Bengalis who have to go to Bangladesh to get citizenship just because the NRC failed in the state of Assam? What about the minorities, the poor and gross citizens of India, the some do not have the documentation to prove that they were born in India? We live in a country where majority do not have enough of this being made a criteria for citizenship in a country like ours. They will be stripped of their rights as citizens of India. So I am proud to belong to a nation that has sheltered all refugees and all persecuted of all tradition and nations of the earth. This act is highly discriminatory and unconstitutional. Therefore I stand against this act. Thank you. Citizenship Act is an act that was in the parliament on 2019 in the land of December. This amendment amended that the Citizenship Act of 1955 allowing the Indian citizenship for Hindu, Sikh, chained Barsis and Christian religious minority who have failed persecutions from country like Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh this year on December before 2014. Ladies and gentlemen, respected judges and all my dear friends from different colleges, I support today's topic. The adoption of Citizenship Amendment Act 2019 is a positive step in India. Why? Because this Citizenship Amendment Act brought to the world the torture of Pakistan and the violations of human rights. This Citizenship Amendment Act saves the minorities of three different nations from being murdered or actually from being converted. This Citizenship Amendment Act shows secular nature of the nation as it is allowing the six different religions to settle together and share equal rights and opportunity. Despite India is on the verge of fall by population, this case here shows that they get out of interest before 10. Continuously, Citizenship Amendment Act provides refuge to the religious minority who have faced persecution in Islamic countries. In fact, this is an act that should be adopted for the Muslim nations who are doing anything for the Muslim refugees, Muslim persecuted. The need of the dark for all of us is to work together for the development of India and for the empowerment of India, especially the poor, the downtrodden and the marginalized. At the same time, we cannot allow the wasted interest group to divide us and to create disturbance. I support and I believe and I strongly assure that Citizenship Amendment Act does not cause any effect on the citizens of India of any religion. And we don't need to worry about this act because this act is only for those who have faced years of persecution in neighboring countries and have no other place but except India. I support this act because this act is about keeping citizenship due to persecuted refugees and not about taking anyone citizenship away. I repeat, Citizenship Amendment Act is about keeping citizenship due to the persecuted refugees and not about taking anyone citizenship away. Thank you. Very good afternoon to everyone. It's been a panel of judges and all the dear ones and the spectacular one president is here. I will be speaking against the motion. Our country today is a place in country where we are pleased with many radiations with its richness and spirituality and its diverse culture and its reflect. And our government seems independent still. They have been serving the country with their own objective to serve the people. Today's Citizenship Amendment Act of 2019 I hear is not a positive step for India. The passing of this bill has been opposing by many people across all over the country. And with the people of the India have read this act and we are aware of the fearful outcome of this act. And not only in India this act has been identified even at the international levels and international organizations like UN. And simple example when the Japanese, the withdrawal of Japanese Prime Minister who in attending the International Summit with India due to the outcome of this effect is not a good image for India. This Citizenship Amendment Act does not talk about giving citizens to India. We are much more fearful about what is the outcome and the effect of this Citizenship Act. The policy of the government of implementing MRC is the outcome of this Citizenship Amendment Act. And as a result of which the U.S. even has said it protects the rights of the illegal immigrants. Where, if it is for the well-being of the country where will be those illegal immigrants which is religious persecution in fact. If it is not against the will of the people then why there have been protests all over the country when India needs to have proper population control policy where there is more than 3400 million people still living under poverty line and when India one of the largest luxury in the world why another policy for the share of power where it is definitely going to disrupt India economically, socially and politically. We cannot say it is a positive step for India but when it is against the will of the people. So this Citizenship Amendment Act of 2019 I fear is not a positive step for India. Good afternoon. Let's forget our GJs, lecturers from different colleges and her, my dear fellow friends. Today I am standing here on behalf of the motion representing the International College to speak adoption of Citizenship Amendment Bill is a positive step. Yes, it is very positive because why it is positive because it provides a nationality to the people of India. They clearly mention to those who are getting confused and being hearing the rules of the outside world it is clearly mentioned in the times of Kandy and in the times of Kandy and Europe they clearly mention the citizens, like the religious people they clearly mention the six religious communities which are able to be the citizens of India even if they are outside of the country. India, India, Christians, Buddhists, Parish and Sikh these are the religious communities they can have their citizenship and it is very true that no one can have and against the right to citizenship no one has the right and there are minorities, now there are the ones suffering in those three countries with my friends who mentioned that Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Pakistan, yes. It is true that our religious people, our religions our people standing out there not only the Hindus but even the Christians they are really suffering and we must we the countrymen must have to help them to come back to our country and have a good relationship with them even our economic growth and even in every field that India will go better the people are talking about that the CAA is bringing the Muslim back to India but it is no in the film we have clearly said in this religious that there has not been nation in India and we are not bringing any Muslims to India but we are bringing our own countrymen to India to give them safe and shelter the people are saying that the population rate is going and the economic growth of India is going up no, it is not that we are bringing the people from the it is not that we the people are bringing our own countrymen to India it is not because of that the population is going it is because of the merits the merits rate is going higher it is because of that the population is going higher and bringing the people to bringing our own countrymen to our country or to our own country is a good thing for us so that we can have a better relationship thank you a very good afternoon to one and all respected, moderated, good day to panel of judges and my fellow participants both very very in a position I am Leyi Ponyakin I am representing Capital Coalition for HEMA and I will be today speaking against the favour of CAA the trust for our country provided with my following few points number one CAA is contrary to the spirit and heart of the Indian constitution nowhere in the constitution it is mentioned that citizenship in India is based on religion CAA is making the citizenship of India based on religion secondly if the CAA is maybe it is cheating it is for the provision of shelter to the refugees and why is it confined to only 6 regions of 3 countries? what about the neighboring countries like Burma, Sri Lanka and secondly if CAA it is a violent fate that CAA is boosting the second class of our country it is very uprooted what is the real intent of the CAA? if it is to make Muslim the second class of our country India cannot extend to its own citizens and how can it say that it will extend to other citizens? do we have enough national resources can we really afford other citizens? number five coming to our state now then we are already influenced with the illegal immigrants in our state and we are already facing problems and issues of illegal immigrants and if we get this CAA implemented and enforced in our state I am very much sure and terrified at the same time that we will be the minorities and the foreigners in our homeland and to conclude my point I am very much confident as it is clearly it is crystal clear to say that this government of India and his fellow Pakistanis both of these CAA only for the fulfillment of their never minded manifesto otherwise when the world is in flames protesting everywhere, why in scales everywhere, why the government is sleeping isn't it? otherwise when there are so many questions to be answered for this CAA why our government of India is hiding as a man that is hiding as silent as a man that is hiding himself from the tiger thank you so much and all the best to my worthy opponents good afternoon everyone and everyone present here especially my competitors there was such an enticing way of putting cap in a very negative way let me start by saying a quote by the UN on cap giving this is probably giving protection to any minority is always a positive step giving protection to any minority anywhere is always a positive step with that I can close my argument easily saying that cap is a positive step why is cap a positive step and why are my opponents so hard on saying that cap is not a positive step they are confused with what is cap may I clearly state what is cap citizenship amendment bill or air is the law of which grants citizenship to those to 6 religions specifically who entered India on or before December 31 so it doesn't mean that after amending this bill more people are going to collapse in North East or in India the fact is that they have always been in India and that they have always been consuming our resources it never mattered only doing this step people are noticing those illegal migrants where they are some they have always been in those barren valleys they have always been with us and they have gone through a lot of stress going through a lot of persecution your families, your Christians this India becoming a Hindu state and we are thrown away from Nagaland and then America, London, South West Asia, Sri Lanka it's going to give us nationality it's going to give us an identity walk or be happy just think of it as nothing to argue about next but as Christians I don't really religion in this but we should be happy of religious or Christian brothers are coming they have a different religion identity they have been suffering for so long don't you have a part of respect or pain for them don't you have any sense of humanitarian work you are speaking only of yourself just imagine them for so long they have suffered I just want to state clearly that they really citizenship bill means giving nationality making them as citizens of India it's not that they are going to come they have always been a part of India they have always taken our resources we have enjoyed their presence too now let me sum up have you ever heard the term globalization or cultural cultural globalization it means intermission of cultures so our culture alone one culture alone is not enough to grow when two cultures mix when three cultures mix the best of every cultures the more ideas the better when every culture comes together the best of everything not the best of one but the best of all together we are strong, together we are united I want to end with my call again giving protection to a new identity is always a question step thank you the government is still not willing to listen to any of it the amisha and the narinamodil dual government what is happening so I go and go against through this act by stating out few points which I have noted here today this CAA is just a divisive bill we are just going to break the long India 70 years of nation building proposed by our national leaders the long 70 years where it is not just for the vision of muslim hindu it is it is violating the constitution where it says in the article 14 where everyone irrespective of the citizenship if they are in India they have their own rights and this is totally violating this article 14 as for the people of the Rohingya for the Sri Lanka where will they go what happened to them, the article as cited in the article 14 of the indian constitution it is against security for the first time we can see that the government of india has placed something with regard to religion going to give citizenship based on religion and this is going to break the society the indian country as a whole we can see that the BJP government they are trying to break vote-bank politics which is very harmful because in the long run it never bring any good things to the country instead just to win an election in the coming years there will be poverty there will be unemployment what will happen to the country we can see that the economy is going down of India when millions of Bengali issues migrating from east Pakistan they coming what will happen to the real Indians will they have anything to do with it a real question arise with the breaking of the Assam airport we can see that Assam airport 1985 people who came after 1971 will be chased out of India but with the implementation of CEA giving citizenship we are going to violate this Assam airport NRC it has all become insane when we try to bring this citizenship amendment act NRC I will give data on it on 31st December to down 17 million out of the 32 million came out in 2000 2018 out of the 14 million only 32 came out what happened to the rest 4 million people what are they going to do in India NRC has also lost to the Indian economy 2,000 euros with the help of the public tax there is our money 52,000 government employees which I will press my I will be speaking on the advantages of this citizenship amendment act let me let me make a clarification those people who are part of this citizenship amendment act citizenship amendment act it is only to provide citizenship or provide citizenship to the refugees those who have fled from Pakistan to Pakistan Bangladesh specifically for 6 minorities region this citizenship amendment act it does not take away any right of these citizens of India when we look back to the history on 16th July 1947 mama can be her promise to give shelter to those minorities from Afghanistan Bangladesh Pakistan and this is not wrong in implementing TCA because we are providing we are providing shelter for those refugees and when we look back to in 1950 he has said that he has said that we should provide homes for those refugees who have fled from those 3 countries on best of persecution on best of religion and when we think that those people are once a season of they are once a season of India but during the partition of India and Pakistan it has created a division among us and I can say the adoption of this amendment exists for India because it is not just new ideas that have been implementing but there are so many promises by our great leaders it is only to give refuge or the white citizenship to those but only for 6 major new regions from creating neighboring countries so as a positive step for India with adoption of citizenship amendment act once again since the time is limited and we will spread to the point the adoption of citizenship amendment act is a trade step for India why because how can we say that pouring a poison in a golden cup to feed our children is good for health that is a foolish concept now the opponent has decided to provide citizenship definitely they are going to provide citizenship but is that according to the constitution it is a violation of article 14 where the muslims has been persecuted the citizenship amendment has clearly said citizenship for a religion who has persecuted from Afghanistan Pakistan Bangladesh but what happened to Sri Lanka and Myanmar all those into Christian Tamils in Sri Lanka what did the government keep mum in this matter number one number two is what did the government keep mum in the concern of the muslims in Pakistan that is both in Pakistan as well as in Myanmar now let's come to the Mahalama Gandhi the constitution of India has claims to give the citizenship to all those minorities religion which have persecuted but when we see that President Kamalik is about to see here what did the violet about the muslim did the constitution of India mention about the violet don't see number one please don't go for that there is a great threat to against for the implementation of citizenship because from now itself we can see that the state like Pakistan they already passed a bill in the parliament to revoke this we can see behind we can see there is a great threat on this if citizenship amendment act is a positive it is not a threat I just want to say that 19 people have already passed away when the protest had already begin 1,100 people have been already arrested in UP how is this a positive there is going to be a great threat in terms of economy why because even in terms of economy we say that even today there is a one way and even in day we think we give to others that is not thousands of people are retreating per year and the government cannot provide a job and still the government of India has been trying to bring the oldest population in India so I firmly oppose and reject this bill this is clearly citizenship amendment bill is about main politics and not any positive impact for India thank you respected judges moderators and ladies and gentlemen present here today I stand here to strongly affirm that the adoption of citizenship amendment act which was passed in 2019 is a positive step for India why because it is a step which is taken by the government which shows that our government is a reliable government now in 2014 in their manifesto BJP manifesto they said that they would give citizenship to these religious persecuted minorities now in 2019-11 December this act was passed and thus they kept their words and they showed that they are a reliable government now do you want a government which is reliable which keeps your words to stop working such a government do you want that central government to be like our government they said they would make roads but what happens in our state government doesn't make roads our foundation has not improved at all since the government so do you want our government to be like which is not reliable at all now I've heard I've heard you guys saying that this is not how do you say it's unconstitutional it's indiscriminatory it goes against secularism now I tell you it is not because you are viewing this because you have been influenced by misleading informations I mean students that do not read the CAHS once and then fall into the trap Amitra urges each and every one of us to go in that now article 14 it gives right to equality but it also states that if there is reasonable classification if there is reasonable classification and non-arbitraryness in an act then that is not unconstitutional so when we come to CAHS it gives us reasonable reasonable classification because it talks about persecuted minorities it talks about those sufferings in their own countries Amitra also stated that it would go to the extent of going door to door to explain the merits of this CAHS and it will also hold fucking great meetings and reach up to 3 crore people to let them know that CAHS is not unconstitutional but it is a positive step for India that I strongly believe and I strongly stand on my believe that it is a positive step for India believe so much freedom not religion I want to spread generosity not in humanity I want to see equality not partial generosity I want to script the sacrifices of living not depends on prosperity I want to take my first spread and my last spread in the tribal good afternoon everyone respected panel of judges, moderator and member of the House I strongly stand against the motion stating that the adoption of Citizenship Amendment Act 2019 is not a positive step for India the following point strongly supports my statement Citizenship Amendment Act has made religion as the basis of nationhood which is a direct contribution of the article 14 of the Indian Constitution how can we say that CAH is a positive step when it discriminates the right to equality enshrined in our constitution it gives preferential treatment to Muslim minorities coming from Muslim majority countries it is discriminational as it gives protection to those Hindu foreigners that the BJP government is trying to bring into India in the camouflage of giving same favors to other section of the communities like Christian, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains and Parsis it is discriminationary whereas it largely discriminates the Muslims, the Amidians the Shias, the Rohingyas the Aryas from China the others that have been here before December the 1st 2014 where will this seek protection it is very highly discriminationary second point it is a demographic threat to the religious minority particularly in North East India indigenous tribal minorities will be submerged under these immigrants if this act you say if it is positive being exempted from this act is just a mere belief that the government is trying to provide to us it strikes at the root of India's secular and democratic principles it is a dangerous way to provide citizenship for if this act also fails to take into account those inhabitants of these border regions many of them follow indigenous religions and are not identified as being part of any of the Sikhs selected religious communities where will this seek protection from do you still opine that CAA is a positive step speaking to one like a further opening has been saying that it would boost economy how can the people that have been in the country and are seeking shelter boost economy when they don't when they can't afford their own basic amenities here in conclusion I would just like to state that this act is not a positive step for India and it is a poison being served to us in a golden cup thank you thank you Mr. Generalman respected fellow objectives today I will be going for the notion of the house that I support CAA the amendment of CAA is a positive state for the government of India India is a secular state India provides an opportunity for everyone India is a welcoming state India is a country of acceptance all these ideals which have been the ones of so many nations have been sure sure through this adoption of CAA which was passed on 11 December 2019 and approved by the president on 12 December 2019 it gives citizenship to those illegal immigrants from Bangladesh from Bangladesh Pakistan and Afghanistan those are these countries Muslim dominant countries which have been persecuting these minorities they do not have a stand they do not know where they belong so a chance to them is a work of humanity that the government of India is trying to do why would the government of India try to give an act which is not profitable for the country Islamic Islamic nations are on their rise in this world this day it has the highest growth of 1.8% and now the whole the whole world is working under this trade now what India is doing with this is that through CAA it is showing the world that Islamic states have been very hostile to other nations and that it is a trend and India's growth coming has portrayed their true nature to the world so this will increase the alliances of India with the rest of the world and India has been working greatly to be superpowers of the country of the world and so this will provide a chance for India to form better alliances talking about the illegal immigrants they are not just doing anything they are coming here and they are working so through citizenship their incomes and their services are taken into account this will help in the GDP of the country so that's how I support CAA thank you good afternoon everyone respected moderator, panel of judges my competitors and the speakers there I will be speaking against the motion adoption of CAA most of my friends have set out the basic policy to go deeper to the facts firstly the population bringing the illegal immigrants we already know India as the second largest population in the world so it's good to be the largest population in the world but we have to accommodate the people and to feed them so like I don't think India is capable enough to feed the population not becoming out of India especially the Muslims I'm sorry Pakistan, Pakistan and Bangladesh and speaking for the Muslims the Muslims from Pakistan, Pakistan and Bangladesh they even discuss as Hindus and come into our country it's not a big deal to change our religion to get citizenship for most of the people and speaking further the citizenship the people born in India citizenship whereas the people coming from out of India like the countries, the two countries they are given citizenship even if they are not born in India like for other people like the Muslims those are born in India they are denied citizenship like we have many political leaders I mean the freedom fighters who have been fighting for the freedom of our country like the Modena Abul Kalamaza and the other brothers who have been fighting for the freedom of our country but their religion they have given citizenship in our country and speaking about Assam they have already built the detention centers for the people who are not under NRC and the government is like playing very cleverly trying to change the NRC into NPR National Population Register which comes under the UADI the ATAR people who are under ATAR and the specific specific place to sleep they might get citizenship according to the NPR National Population Register and speaking about constitution like according to Article 17 it provides equality to all religions but the act goes against it but it doesn't provide citizenship to the Muslims and the current government is trying to change the entire democracy of India and trying to end it like the act can be against the committee of the government the present government because the debate is being taken to the EU that European Union for debate so winding up and strongly opposing the citizenship and then go, thank you good afternoon everyone the specific judges, moderator, friends and my fellow competitors say that with the CAA we have a very huge opportunity here the opportunity to do the right thing to do the humane thing CAA deals with immigrants who are already here we are not talking about the immigrants who are coming but who are already here so it's not like after this passing of this act sudden flux of immigrants who come they are already here and they are already taking jobs like we have all used to come in these streets and all this so it's not possible in flux but we have an opportunity here to do the right thing why do you think they ran away from their countries because they were persecuted just imagine like you are in your home and your own family is harassing you and you and you have no choice but to run away so we have a very big opportunity here to do the humane thing my thought always is to say whenever somebody tries to do the right thing you will always face a lot of opposition before this bill was mentioned no one was talking about in this kind of magnitude the immigrants no one was mentioning it but as soon as the government is trying to push this act everyone started rising up so it means that we are trying to do the right thing so I would like to mention I hope everyone knows the story of Copernicus how he stood alone against the churches and stated that no, the earth is not the center but the sun is the center and he was persecuted for that but now we know that he was speaking the truth and that he stood for the truth so I just want to state once again that we have a very huge opportunity here to do the humane thing do the right thing so I hope you all take a stand and move in a step that I believe will be positive good afternoon everyone today I am standing here against the motion of the House the adoption of CAA 2019 is a positive step for India no, it's not a positive step for India we can say that it's negative by focusing on several people's perspective let us go back to mainland India it is discriminating the people and it is letting the people suffer on religious perspective and the people and it is letting the people have a fear of religious perspective by saying this it is not to sound malicious or to hurt any body sentiment but it is a fact let us come back to our North Eastern region we are being suffered from different demographic issues we are rising we are suffering from different threats why is our leader doing this to us India was built with a motto and with an idea unity and diversity which is not functioning according to them at all ok, let us come back to Naguind our Nagas, we Nagas we are going to one finder we are going to lose our identity and culture due to this act and what any action why are they leaving us clueless the government use the majority politics in India which is not acceptable because India is a democratic country and it is a secular country this majority they are trying to use the tyranny of majority on us on we people, on you and I which is not appropriate because India is a democratic country and it should be functioning accordingly alright it is a tyranny to us it is an indigenous and they are trying to promote secularism and they are trying to this government they are trying to only promote the politics of division by seeing this and by focusing on the present scenario we get to know that what we are observing or what we are focusing is more or less like a reality but it's more like a nightmare it's less like a reality and more like a nightmare they are trying to and they are trying to focusing on this we get to know what is right is right and what is wrong is wrong and this position amendment act which was passed is not the right thing and it is a negative step for India thank you I look it up to everyone to take the benefit of judges teachers from all colleges teachers because they are members and of course to you my body opponents well I support the citizenship amendment act as a positive step for India as a positive step for India because because this to provide citizens to minorities who are facing religious persecution in the library as Islamic countries and there is no purpose because those who are religious persecution and because in 1947 Mohammad Gandhi has said our Hindu and Sikh brothers who are facing religious persecution in Pakistan but always they are they can stay in our country so it is the duty of Indian government to provide to provide refuges and even during the partition this that India promised to take care of their futures that Pakistan did not take we India did therefore it is our obligation to take care of those minorities and well here my dear fellow opponents here say that we Indians are trying to make an Hindu scientist but no dear opponents we are not trying to make this in India and Hindu scientist we are just trying to prove what our father of the nation Mohammad Gandhi has said because as I said earlier because he says the Sikh and Hindu brother who are here in Pakistan are also feeling religious and in India in Afghanistan give a one like Hindu and Sikh refuges for the question you are like where have all the people gone thank you so my question is based on what the opponent has said so my opponent from the motion bench has said it is justified where stand on the topic by using humanitarian grounds so my question is it is really logical to help legal immigrants from another country by bringing them in and providing them the resources well the rest of the country is facing major problems of their own when it comes to access to clean basic amenities like clean water electricity food and shelter and yeah that is so my question thank you for the question number 4 why we are bringing all these immigrants here is because in Pakistan, Afghanistan there is highest number of ISIS present inside here they persecute the people they pressure the people rape the women so why can't India save them from all these ISIS members as well as and why do you say that any country cannot provide food and shelter and enjoy the self-help the private associations to protect the immigrants as well as and any government is doing that due to the high presence of ISIS members in Pakistan and Afghanistan compared to Bangladesh my question is how can't you see that due to illegal immigrants why we the Norse people are restrained or neglected from these old government jobs where the central government is providing a special preference in all exams like UPSC why do you say that we are neglected from all these government jobs unlike every year this Assam and Shukra we have highest number of passport students from this UPSC at least 30 members and how can you say that the Norse people are restrained or neglected from these old central service exams why thank you for the question so like as you have asked me the question even though facts show that there are a lot of past hours or things like that the reality is that there are still a lot of people unemployed and there is still no solution to this even though the government or the central government the same government or central government provides opportunity to people for employment and all these things we still see a lot of people who are educated but unemployed we have to face reality and not just be happy with facts which show little improvement and I know that the question that I asked it sounds a bit selfish on our part as being like not being open to helping other people but when it comes to facts like our religion our land or our identity being threatened by other people or immigrants I think we should take a stand to give a strong go and protect ourselves and also not let other people come and be majorities in our own land, thank you my question to my worthy opponent is firstly I would like to make it clear that the provisions under the constitution Act 2019 already exist under the Citizenship Act for the minorities in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh but without signalling out any religion so how can you say that this is not discriminatory well thank you for your questions I think that it's whatever you said it's discriminating our people we can't accept everyone whether it's Muslim or any other but our India is not stable now we can't and the Muslim they are living there is their home town only their own country so it's like your parents won't kick out from your home I think our Indian people they are suffering there most of the Christians while they are preaching they have been killed, tortured so many things that we have seen on social media so we are serving them but for Muslims we are not ready to accept them that's why we are not accepting them and for my question is for the people already mentioned that it's not it's not imposed on the state's ILP ILP state like not letting it be wrong but students were protesting against what's the reason behind it thank you very much for the question my fellow audience I would like to let you know that the ILP exists even before the constitution amendment act was formulated and this is just a cosmetic change so it will affect the Nordic states that you have mentioned and it has always been and it will continue too to repuddle I would like to repuddle my fellow my radio opponents radio opponents you have clearly stated that we are bringing Muslims to India so you yourself you have admitted that this is against secularism India is a welcoming country why aren't all religions being welcomed here by one of my opponents Amit Shah so as reliable when they keep on lying to us we do not believe in a lying government regarding the door-to-door regarding Amit Shah's door-to-door explanation on what constitution amendment act is to everyone my fellow opponents you should understand by this very fact the BJP government hurrying to stitch up this constitution amendment act should make you understand just to make up for the consolidation of your holdings that they lost in the state of Assam thank you I just want to ask you on the count of days which you have clearly mentioned the count of days of 2014 because Prime Minister I long have said if you are a persecuted Hindu you don't have to bring any documents and thus you will get the citizenship is it not fearful is it not unconstitutional and since you have clearly mentioned it is not fearful to any Indian citizens taking the example of Tribra Assam and the way of assurances they give to the novice is it not fearful and unconstitutional to Indians thank you it's a very fear that you see by adopting this amendment we are doing something like related to humanity and you have kind of mentioned that by protection protection to any minorities is always a positive step there is no like our father of our nation have said before Hindu and Sikh religion does count are allowed to come in India in any time that means we are we are just this act is about just giving citizenship we are not this act doesn't help me you are against this act you have mentioned that you are totally against that CAA is giving citizenship to persecuted refugees you are really telling my lady that I have mentioned the citizenship amendment act as your question is citizenship amendment act is I would say and I fear is rather religious discriminatory religious religion because it cannot it cannot be just giving citizens to the people of India it is beyond this giving citizenship to the people of India as you have said it is only giving citizenship of citizenship to those persecuted religions of whatever they have mentioned then where are the Muslims and other persecuted religions if it is only to do and if it is nothing to fear if it is nothing fearful for the Indian constitution what would be the case taking the example like I have mentioned earlier Tripura and Assam and why are there many if it is constitutional if it is nothing to fear why are there many assurances to the noticed people that this I inner land permit is going to save us which is not as our ministers have already said this inner land permit is not going to save is not going to save the Nagas album is not going to save any implemented IEPs so this citizenship amendment is a fearful one for the share of power and it is a kind of both main politics where the government is trying to the world the government is trying to struggle for power for long process and holding of power which is not going to be a positive step for the Indian state my question is in response to my opponents that CAA is not against religion there are so many with religious minorities who are historically being persecuted but this CAA is confines to only 6 religions of 3 countries so my question is maybe for your question and certainly she said CAA is only one it is only 6 communique clearly like to say Muslims if you want Muslims Muslims have been there is a question being asked why not Muslims are giving citizenship to the Indians Muslims they have already given the country state like Bangladesh and Pakistan and now in the ancient times there have been only these 6 religions which have been mentioned in India that is the reason the religions which have been mentioned earlier like Buddhist, Hindus these are the religions which have been the these are the main religious and they are and they are the I should say they are the real Indians who should say that they are the Indian countries that is why these 6 communities have been a special categories special categories for their citizenship and now for my question is that it is a very simple would you like to be part of a Muslim country like Pakistan, Bangladesh or Afghanistan I will show you you will say no and if yes then you should go back to Pakistan and Afghanistan and stay there and no if you are saying no then why when you don't like to be part of Pakistan and India then why are you letting your own countrymen to suffer there like as a hell out there they are torturing them give the best example Muslims can't be tortured for reading Quran but the Hindus for reading Sikh and for Christians reading Bible in Muslim country are being tortured and that is the real reason we want to have the religious and why we are so against your own countrymen please give me that answer and I will show you that if you give me that answer I will show you this amazing question well I never want to be a part of Pakistan even if I get the changes because I am a proud Indian and I am very proud to be born in this national and as a part to be a part of Indian and I am not against those Indian citizens Indian minority those religions who are persecuted in these three countries but I am not against those religions but just wondering why it is only them found in these religions because there are many minority religions who are still facing persecutions so I am not against those religions in Indian members but for insains in Sri Lankan there is Indian Tamils and then there are also present persecutions there so why is this CAA only them finds in these three countries that is my only concern and I am not against those countries that are being faired thank you ok then let's give a side to it you guys are saying that the CAA doesn't have to do anything about religion ok I am feeling excited for that now then let's look down the lion 10 to 20 years for 45 years India is a fertile country if we keep on and give the situation on the ground of being persecuted keep a side of the region then what will happen to the remaining Indians as you can see unemployment is at its peak we are not getting jobs development is not happening, corruption is everywhere then adding more people to this country how can it justify all this how can the CAA help in improving this country thank you for the question I am not Amit Shah or Narendra Modi but I know they are answering my question and even if it doesn't satisfy you please forgive me ok so based on what you are saying we are asking about CAA citizenship and when they get citizenship how can they help so the criteria for getting citizenship in India is 11 years but this CAA specific they are getting only on 6 years so even if you are not to give them CAA they will eventually be a part of India because they will be staying for 11 years that is short because they will never go again in Afghanistan Pakistan will be persecuted again in the end they will eventually become a citizen of India but for now they are getting it in 6 years instead of 11 years that is the only thing so how can it promote economic welfare so 1 is better than 2 2 is better than 3 we don't know the idea but how they become a part of us they have always been a part of us as I have always said they have been in India for 6 or more years they have always been a part of us so when they are out on citizens their ideas, their culture it will mix together it will be beautiful don't look only on the backside when we are confined only to our culture and when we do not accept change that is when we lose and that is only our loss my question is so during the elections this citizenship built was a manifesto was a manifesto of the BJP government so why didn't you question there and why are you reporting so much getting ready even to die for this you should have started from there you shouldn't have let them come to power now you may say criticize the government for that that is the first one second is that if you are one of those people if you have been persecuted if you don't have a place to live and if a country is giving you national identity please speak in your shoes and if you are saying that if you are one of those and if you are saying that yeah the country is giving me citizenship but since I was born and I will destroy the country would you my question is that would you be happy if a country is giving you an identity would you accept it or not would you go against it or not please think that and answer me thank you the first question that you raised in the manifesto which you said that they are going to go in support of DCA but in 2004 let me be clear that in Assam the BJP government they are going to stop migration and what is this in 2019 this is just an illusion to the people that is what we are support against this because in 2014 people of Assam were fooled and now they are realizing that this is not for our place that's all we are going against of it I guess you are clear for that and you have been saying to us that why not before if you see things we don't see it at first but when we see it you can see the whole mission is holding you know what is happening to this BJP government not even a single media word that Narendra Modi came up in public just keep only behind your own running news media channel work and make sure you have all these supporters saying Jai Shiran that's all but the real thing is that they are not answering the question you are demanding and for the second yes it is good that people are giving citizenship to us this kind of protects to India when you get citizenship in US the country is having good economy but in India the people, the population that is us what are going to hit I will never share my play with another person if I have none and this is happening in India below poverty like people are sleeping in junior heat highway roads and we are going to stay even if they injustice they don't have hit so I guess the C.A.T is nothing but just a delusion of cheap political board banks they are not going to help us in any way just for the election to empower for everything ok my fellow point is that there is nothing wrong in giving citizenship so my question is how can you say that when someone became the owner of your own house is still a great opportunity thank you for your question we can say giving citizenship to in India but in France it's not wrong it's not wrong but we are giving a a ninja look my best but it's clear that all the things came here in India last year on 31st December 2014 but not to everyone why everyone was migrated in India why did you start producing when this senior was recommended or when in the government stated to give citizenship why not at the first ok thank you for your question I guess you say that why not in the first in a natural way it is always the right time to do the right thing it is always the right time to do the right thing why because citizenship amendment act is totally against which is unconstitutional now we can see yesterday is different and today is different why because we can see clearly what is going to happen tomorrow today I guess I say as I already mentioned before how also people are retreating for the government cannot provide job per household if you give citizenship they are not dead enough they are better than us if you give opportunity to them where are we where shall we stand where are we going to stand in the days to come what are we going to give feedback what are we going to respond to our children this is the reason why we are standing against this citizenship amendment act thank you here is my question with all of you respect to our present government with what my what your comments mentioned if you say it is a positive act step why is it integral and why is your reliable government disconnecting the evidence and shares from Pakistan wrong guess and rivers that have been here existing here before 31st December 2014 if not provided citizenship what is your government how is it going to help them protect them that's my question well first person let me tell you that these rome muslims are also a sect of muslims and so in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh they have a state religion which is muslim so when this act is passed when they are not given citizenship in India they will be deported to muslim because that is their original country that will be their original homeland so like that's my answer and my question is before I pose my question I would like to give my rebuttal for 2-3 times you guys are mentioning about partial generosity why partial generosity now let me tell you about scarce resources we have scarce resources the world has scarce resources we are doing what the CAA what the present government is doing that they are trying to pick out the least disadvantage communities to help them so that whatever we have we can help them with whatever we have even our first speaker question was something like this we have little resources we don't have enough why are we giving to others so using this question I would like to answer you we have scarce resources we are trying to make the best use of it and then tell them and help them and help those people so my question is it has already played partially but did you know that in the CAA that's not mentioned about I mean mentioned that ILOB states with ILOB and tribal reserve areas this CAA will not be implemented on this space so if yes so if yes if you know that this is mentioned then tell me how this is going to change our demography if no then let me tell you that it is mentioned and that our states our culture our identity which is ILOB and tribal reserve areas will not be affected at all thank you for the question in response I would like to say that exemption from this act as I mentioned before is just trying to provide a near relief to us even if there are not given citizenship there will be given citizenship on the basis of the religion and then the time that they have been staying here so eventually they will be able to enter Lavelin and if they are able to enter Lavelin they will obviously cause a threat to our people and they will be staying or residing here and in you said that to the least these advantage people they are giving opportunities to have citizenship so are those people that I have mentioned are they not this advantage don't they deserve humanity like you've been spending from the first speaker to the last it is a humanitarian work and you should be providing humanity so don't deserve this and you ask you said that they will be deported to their own land so deported to be persecuted again they don't have an option anymore that's why we are asking if you said that this act is a positive one why is it not equal for everyone those two words equality and positive inequality and positive cannot go hand in hand if you said that this act is a positive step for India it should be equal and it should be provided to all the disadvantage section of this community so you ask that why we have not risen our voice against it from the early age let me tell you another name has always been taking such steps but it was not in a major one and we have been dealing with this issue frankly indigenous people from such immigrants have always been in what country and if it was a positive act you would not have to go door to door convincing us and you know that it is not realistic at all therefore I strongly affirm that citizenship amendment act 2019 is not a positive step for India thank you my question is like you said India is a secular state we all know India being the largest civil constitution in the world India is a secular state but this citizenship amendment was with the constitution of India India is a secular state and India is a secular state and we do not have anything to do with this because when we talk about it is not talking about taking people from other religion it is about taking people who are persecuted who are having troubles and being in a Muslim state it is from a Muslim country and so taking people from Muslim country is irrelevant because it is the other powers it is the other religions who are being persecuted here in this case so I think taking in people who are in need taking in people who want shelter I think it is more it is that is the case in this reason so my question to you to my fellow British you have mentioned that Indian citizens are not given citizenship while through CAA the illegal immigrants are given citizenship I want to ask how the people of India are given citizenship because as far as I know the Muslim freedom fighters the other one who conspired against us because of power and the other one who went away by choice like I said the citizens of India are not given citizenship what I want to say was like the Muslims who are already in India who have been living in India for recent decades they have not been given citizenship because the people coming from all over India the Muslims sorry not the Muslims the Hindus are 6 secretions they are given their citizenship if they come to India for 6 years those secretions are given but what about the people already living in India the Muslims already living in India they have been living since decades like we know the Mughals who came to India in the 16th century so that is who came to India in the 12th century they have been living for ages they are not given citizenship like they are present living in India like recently I have been to Delhi they have been to Jamiya in India they are the Muslims who are protesting against the CIA because they have been living in India since the past decades but they are not being given citizenship like these are not the people who are kept from Bangladesh they will not come to Delhi from Bangladesh these are people living in Delhi for decades those who came to India it is a good story and to answer what she said to my question those in India there are countries in India sorry, the Muslim countries yes those countries are like Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan those are Muslim countries but Hindus are also given citizenship in Sri Lanka and Burma as well so it is not value to say Hindus are not considered in other countries thank you I have a question to my fellow politicians what is the problem or possibility that makes you think that going against the government through our protest and fight back is the wrong thing to do thank you for the question I believe that the main protests came started from Assam and that was because this CIA converted the Assam records in 1995 so Assam has a legitimate reason to oppose the CIA however because of the Assam protests all the other states in which protests erupted they didn't understand the actual objectives of the CIA properly and then they just followed the leader Assam so this is the last hysteria I believe where people have not properly understood the strict criteria in which citizenship will be given by the CIA so that is my answer and some of my verbal points I would like to make an analogy like imagine your house which is your country and a stranger has already entered your house and you don't know who this person is and they have occupied a small portion of your house and there is no way to interact with them because India is not signed with the 1951 refugee convention which means there is no way there is no structure no law to deal with those strangers what this CIA will do is help us recognize who they are and then use their skills their talents for our benefit so that is an analogy I want to make and my question is I have heard a few points about losing our identity so it doesn't say that those immigrants will become Nagas it doesn't say that those citizens will become Assamese it only says they will become Indian citizens and protecting our identity is the job of you and I so why do you think that we will lose our identity if disability is passed thank you thank you for the question all right talking about our identity we are living in Nagalit where it is full of different cultures and identity and I say that we will be losing our identity if this bill is through this bill because the illegal immigrants will be the majority and we will be the minority and they will overpower us and that is we are going to see it and face it so before we face it why don't we be aware I should say that all of them misleaded and the unconscious and unconcerned mind will not be aware of the appraising issues in our present aspect why don't we be aware before those things happens I should say that we should be careful before anything happens and for the re-battle during the protests I have seen you guys you were there and I say that your support for the CDA is not due yet thank you ok so my question is is it really wise to allow minorities from the film country who in turn will become a majority in the land that they will walk about ok so thank you for the question and yeah Hindu was a majority in India and Hindu and Hindu was a minority in Hindu was a Hindu was a majority in India and minority in Pakistan and Muslim was a majority in Muslim was a majority in Pakistan and minority in India so yeah so refugees do we can provide for the refugees because in India our India is a population mostly it's a population of in Hindu ok so like now this egg has already become egg and our home waters as we regard our Mata and the Asapopa as the part of the nations and if we don't accept this egg we are just sitting aside what he has said because what he has promised and these refugees will come if we don't we will all these refugees will come now I should announce the the first the first goes to CH and then the second goes to one is two seconds one is same zone there was one participant in the bench against the motion so as calculated the average and then group wise the winner goes to the against the motion congratulations to you all and then have a good evening