 Hey guys, yeah the next topic is about all the challenge we have in Fodor Al-Atam and what we need to reactivate this region. You know in the last maybe three or four years you know pandemic and other topics I think it's internal topics I don't know I am not going to talk about that topics it's not important but you know the pandemic destroy everything and all the countries in Latin and Mexico, Panama, Argentina, Chile, Colombia, Venezuela and other countries you know disappear maybe these two years and you know in pandemic any team can work in different you know events it's not possible because all the people is locked in their house and in other sites you know but you know let me open my notes because this is my first time in the vlog I going as a you know as a speaker but I am ready for this I think thank you Justin for give me the opportunity to to talk about Fodor Al-Atam in this conference about community and let me start with this this is not a talk this is a maybe a discussion because we need a help we need a help to reactivate the region the Latin region in this region we have a lot of people in different countries and what happened in the past the principal event in Latin is the food con and obviously and the Fedora members know this event disappear is deprecating it's not we don't organize more food cons in the in the Latin regions you know what we need now we need support we need support we need ideas we need brainstorm and this is why I try I coming with this topic in this session because we need help from all the people Mexico and any people just in red hat because one of the goals is you know in my mind one of the goal is talk with the former ambassadors in these regions and try to come back with this ambassador to reactivate country by country I need being you know I need talk in private maybe or in other sessions with all these ambassadors about what we need to reactivate this you know country by country because all the events disappear and the community extinct I think in the in the Latin side you know this topic was born from seeing how to Fedora town community has been disappear and we are almost extinct you know and I miss my my my Latin region I miss that I I want to talk with my people in Peru Argentina again and Chile and the last week I talked with a former ambassador one of these guys I think I talked with Alex Callejas I talked with Jose I talked with Alejandro Perez in Panama Abdel Martinez in Panama Luis Segundo in Panama other guys in in Peru Alex Obiedo and my question is give me a feedback what do you need to you know what is your feedback to maybe to reactivate the region because I am not the only member of this of this part of this team of this community and you know I need the feedback for all the ambassadors and this is what I get back you know I get back these answers you know I get carry all the workshops the people say we need more workshops in latin packages workshop documentation translators localization because the people need motivation in latin the people need motivation I don't know in the other regions what I can talk about latin in latin if you don't give goal for the people the people not you know don't feel I need contribute for to translate but what I receive back you know this is a volunteer volunteer role you know you are a volunteer this is a contributor this is free but maybe the people contributing with that to the community but maybe want to receive something back you know maybe a motivation and I have one idea to this motivation what do you think if take the people in the country a and send to the country b and the people in the country b sent to the country a you know as maybe per event send people to Mexico from Panama some people Mexico to Panama Panama to Argentina and maybe create these workshops with this ambassador not not send all the people obviously you know the budget is important but send one ambassador the next week or the next event to Mexico to talk with the Mexico team and maybe learn about how the Mexico community you know grow these two years because Mexico I congratulation Mexico because you have a big community in your side and maybe the next talk is about that and the questions are is how are we going to do it how can we reactivate and improve our communities this is two questions the one second and the answers let me list the answers in the in the screen you know the answer is carry out the workshop packages return to large latam events such as a field I mentioned fears I don't know if Brazil continue organizing this event but I mentioned this because in this event in the past Fedora put a stance and talk and networking with a lot of people thousands people in Brazil Brazil is a big country and other events obviously you know we lost food but what we what I can say when when I say large events maybe we need create a new event for latam because flock and sorry for that flock is I think only for NA people and a pack in mea in mea but it's really hard to a lot of people to travel to mea maybe sometimes you know maybe we need to create a new large event for latam to you know to meet with all these people you know this is the answers the feedback from ambassadors I think this is the most important answer for from the ambassadors in latam we need to create a presence again generate noise in all the countries you know generate we need more noise in all latam countries with universities I don't know students a public events in Panama and we have maybe per month some events in universities we need reactivate again the maybe a ambassador program is there but you know we have we need reactivate again these ambassadors because the ambassadors disappear I think I don't know where is it the ambassador knows but it's it's not it's not in the in the countries disappear totally I don't know we need talk with all the ambassador and some people mention other countries are Colombia Republica Dominicana and other sites I don't know if you have the contacts for this site please give me to with to start the communication with these teams and how can we start I think I jump all the slide talking I means put you know click the next but you know I say this we can start with me I can contact each deformed ambassadors to see if the world like to resume activities both you know what happened if these former ambassador not like to come back I have other option you know the other option is no after listening you know the other option is if the ambassador not want to come back because in the past he fight with the community I don't know we need start communicate with the new guys in the in the federal in this federal community because we have a new guys but this require take them by the hand you know these these people need help to to grow and to understand how create events and to understand other things to understand the rules the priority code of conduct you know this new ambassadors need understand all these topics because and you need explain these because you know to don't block the rules you know and to create a good evidence in all the in the countries and in the universities obviously we need swag we need sponsors we need maybe some budget in the past we work with Fedora with a budget Latin work with some budget I don't know in 2023 the budget of Latin I don't know if Alex understand the budget of Latin you have the numbers of the budget of Latin no I don't know today let them not have real number to say okay we have this budget to work with all the countries in the past we have a budget we have a budget to work with all the countries and say okay this is for this country this for this country because we need money to to create noise to move events you know to create new events and maybe to create swags to create banners etc no and now okay I put I put the I think the one of the next slide now after listening to all these tell me how you can help hold in this room I know if you have any idea to give to let them to reactivate the radio give me the idea send me the channel send me chat ping me in any channel I am on I think I am on all the channels in Fedora infrastructure meetings Latin a batch mindset I think I am I am in all the channels ping me and I need these ideas because we need it's important for the community reactivate this a rayon the rayon we lost the rayon the last in the last two years and we need to reactivate and if you have these the ideas to help or to reactivate the rayon please give me no problem if you are from EMEA a pack latam and a what you are welcome to start help to the community to reactivate the rayon in the past the people from EMEA and a pack and a travel to the food cons in in latam and help soon with some workshops this is important we need we need external people to share the all the I think all the projects from Fedora because we have a lot of projects inside Fedora documentation website infrastructure applications developers wow we have a lot and yeah we need help to to teach these people because now we don't have we don't have maybe how I can start how we can start because you know we need to start any question at this point team yeah please what question or suggestion Merex he's speaking I have under like what I seen is said he said like yeah we need to be present many conferences and start new conferences and a lot of stuff and more money and more people and yeah and it's like like full front on yeah more people more people sending there and still the same way and I'm wondering like why like do you have some data for that or like but just not criticizing or like saying why I can give example what we done in Czech Republic in the Bruno okay rather than having big conference many of them we have one big in Brno but that doesn't activate the community there you are doing a lot a lot small stuff okay get curses at school coding stuff at grammar school and high schools packaging workshops for the people from the community outside like you are outside for a fair but you want to create the arpeggio find let's come to this workshop summer camp so a lot of small activities which you can groups like meeting in the pub so I'm speaking about Python everybody buy their own beer and this costs you literally nothing nothing but your own time and we can have like we have literally every week some activity which costs nothing and keep people pushing you don't have this time this week so what about next week what about next week come this guy doesn't cost nothing just your time yeah it's a I think your it's not a question it's maybe a suggestion your yeah for example in Mexico in the next talk you are going to receive a lot of information of the Mexico community but in Panama I can talk about Panama in Panama you know we push the people the universities all the times obviously we have some goals sometimes you know because I want maybe some packages I try to to recruit you know some packages documentation people translate or maybe because sometimes we need translated documents to Spanish or to other language yeah I try that in Panama with Fedora Panama team I think Fedora Mexico do the same but what happened and it's a good point you know you know you you don't need a big team you need a small groups and this is this group can broadcast you know and diffuse all the information that part is perfect but what I need I need the same in Peru I need the same in Chile Argentina because in the past we have this team these are small groups but this group disappears why is a large history sorry Justin yeah so sorry yeah thank you for that point Lucas Czech Republic I wanted to remark that the situation in the Czech Republic might be a little bit different because we are a small country yeah and if we we have something called Pivo for example which is a development discussions regarding Python every every week I believe in a pub so people who are interested in Prague they hop on a train and they can read Bruno in no time and take part in Pivo if they want and that might be a different thing in Argentina Panama Brazil where there are distances big as hell I believe you I think you could however move these activities online a little bit and share something online I wanted however to remark something else the previous talk said that it's a problematic to get people involved in doing Fedora documentation okay and now we have problems to get people involved in communities in latin correct and what if our bars are set too high and I would like to explain sometimes I have the feeling that if there is a if there is somebody who finds out about Linux and he or she would like to get involved then they don't know how to start and when they start it's not enough like they make a pull request for example and immediately they get a review which is full of don't do this do it differently this is not this is not enough you need to learn this first and then the people just lose their interest because it's too difficult to get involved and maybe we should embrace attempts and we should just take it and and maybe make it better I wanted to say this already when the documentation talk was here that maybe if people do not know how to make a pull request for documentation in eski dog maybe we could accept an article written in library office and maybe we could find someone who is more experienced to convert to convert it to eski dog and we would have at least that content if not the form and maybe if we accepted I don't know talks how to us articles how do I use Fedora maybe even if it's not 100% correct maybe still it's worth to gather it somehow and to public to make it public and make it better over time well it's a you mentioned a good idea you know you say remote sessions yeah and maybe request remote session with experts maybe to explain about you know this good push good merge good yeah sorry and it's a good idea to create these workshops maybe if the expert person the engineer the expert engineer from rail Fedora I don't know is in Burnau in Republic in Czech Republic we can schedule a session with this guy like we the people in Panama can translate your session obviously and we can do this session about documentation for example and maybe motivated people in the in the university to start documentation a star translation localization infrastructure but obviously we need the correct person to to teach to start teaching of course it's always better when there is an expert teaching something yeah but I was a teacher originally before joining red hat and I think that for starters it's enough when the teacher knows just a little bit more than those people so experts are fine but also helpers are fine you know so and I think the good point about communities is that that one expert could serve many but the community can't exist without those helpers and I think we need more helpers who just say okay I can help with this up to this point I can't help any father but then maybe it's not needed because those coming people the newcomers maybe you know very intelligent people yeah and I mentioned that just we have a time you have a time two minutes okay yeah and I mentioned that please Jose share your what you're going to say oh yeah thank you a federal aton we we must import focus and we must focus in people connected with the people in it's it's important to pay attention to individuals and establishes connection with them maybe in this moment no it we must comment on it okay yeah you know we need pay attention to all the people's in the in the latin you know these are humans I know and you know this is the moment we need a start a I think connect with the people to a start a involved with to connect with the people to involve we are with all the guys and then start a church you know all the things all the topics all the all the workshops so that I think this is a what what Jose tried to to say to to the to the team let's go I want to create this week with needing with Kevin fancy I want to request the latin channel in matrix please join to that channel I receive all the ideas I want to talk with you sir maybe to this perfect yeah I sent us yeah sent us Kiwi Kiwi Fedora Kiwi okay yeah let me thank you thank you for the time and thank you for the opportunity just in to talk about freedom and that's all so as a quick note it is now lunchtime we'll have lunch served in the suite upstairs just before the meeting room so go and get yourself a seat and a bite to eat