 Hello everyone welcome back to JSA TV and JSA podcast where we're covering the latest stories trends and innovations with leaders in Global connectivity real estate and the networks within I'm here with a very special guest Jonathan Evans from total data center solutions It's his return appearance on JSA TV. Welcome back Jonathan. Yes. Thank you for the invitation. Yeah, absolutely We're so happy to have you so I thought it would be good for for folks who aren't familiar with total data center solutions If you could just give them a quick intro into what you all do for the industry Well, we've been going for 20 years. We specialize in starting co-location companies And helping them to get off the ground with marketing and sales And we also reduce the carbon footprint of data centers using infrastructure and And location so that's essentially what we do Excellent perfect nice and succinct. I love it And so we were just chatting before we went live here about a few trends that Total data center solutions is helping with and just trends that you're seeing in the industry And you hit a lot of the keywords like micro grids AI Emerging cooling so if you could just chat about that a little yeah Yeah, well, we do battery storage solutions which we have self-funding so we don't charge for them Which is sounds like too good to be true But we do that for data centers and we reduce their carbon footprint on their power costs as a consequence And we share the savings in order to repay the cost of the batteries So that's quite simple and straightforward and then we can attach solar panels to that and we can create a microgrid as well using that solution We're also trying to market immersion cooling But that's quite difficult still because we're in a very risk-averse industry and people aren't willing to take any chances So so that's been an uphill struggle I think immersion cooling will take off eventually because it does reduce the power demands on data centers Quite significantly and the water temperature coming off the data center is much higher So you can reuse it much easier for local district heating So that that was a key trends I think at the moment is the is the is the local Grid not being big enough to cope with with all the new data center demands. Yeah, absolutely Well, thank you for that insight. That's incredible And I thought we would just round round out the interview by talking about the Nordics And I know you've been working in this part of the world for for quite a while So in your opinion, why should data center operators consider co-locating and well because I've been promoting it for about 12 years I I think the answers are the sustainable power supplies, you know, which which makes such a big difference I'm also working with Stelium and Newcastle which we've connected into the Nordics now And that becomes like a focal point for connectivity between the Nordics and the US So connectivity's got better in the Nordics when I went when I first went there No one was interested in sustainability, which is only 12 years ago But absolutely no one was interested in it and no one was interested in the cost of power So things have dramatically changed in that short time and now people are very interested in locating in Norway and in Sweden Because of the green power solutions there Although even there they are struggling with the demands at the moment And they were struggling even more when the demands go up to a hundred megawatts plus So so yeah, those are the main reasons I promote the Nordics. All right, it's a pretty place as well Yeah, that doesn't hurt, right and the Norwegians and the Swedish people are nice people to deal with That's always a nice thing to incredible. Well, yeah, that's an excellent summary of why data center operators should consider co-locating and in Norway Sweden and So, thank you so much Jonathan Yeah, nice talking to you as well and to our viewers back home Thank you so much for for hanging out with us here at JSA TV. Happy networking