 Oh money that's not this film. Oh, hey, welcome back to our stupid rakesy. It's a Corbin I'm Devon on and you can false it Instagram Twitter for more juice the gaunt and squeeze them good. Yeah The juice is what I'm talking about. I think you're supposed on patreon for the truth Crownscribe that like button and welcome to classic month. It's classic month of gain We are classics and we decided to start with the film that I probably would have gotten to last year but It's it's a big one that we've missed out. Yeah, it's a really big one It's like a it's a mammoth of a of a classic. That's like I think like the the Indian restaurant. I frequent a lot It's probably the best Indian food here in Los Angeles McDonald's. Yes. Yeah Like they have a bunch of pictures of actors upon the walls and stuff but they also have like films as well like it has like eight classics and Guide guide is on there with like obviously show lays and sure and all is pedosan up there. Yeah But so it's it's up there obviously with the mammoths of the classic I do believe this is also our first Devon on it is Which four years without seeing Devon on is this our first Waheeda film too. I think it is I think it is I could be wrong, but I think it's our first Waheeda. I think it is But obviously came out in 1965 is gonna be a hundred percent spoiler of you I think most Indians have seen the film many many times. Yes But it's the Devon on film directed by Vijay Anand the brother Devon on and written by him as well from a book produced by Devon on right and All that kind of stuff starring Devon on and Waheeda Raman Waheeda Raman and a billion thousand other people other people Yeah But like I said to be a hundred cents for the view if you haven't watched it go watch it come back I think all you probably have seen the film already. So I don't think we're spoiling anything It's like if you were we were viewed like The Wizard of Oz You haven't seen it by now. Well Rick your initial thoughts of guide, please my initial thoughts of guide were and we'll get into the details as usual it It Started off in a way that I was accepting of it and thought okay. I'll just let this be what it is then 40 minutes in it just took flight and Became I can see why everybody loves the film so much for so many reasons I think the author didn't like the interpretation of the novel the film. I read about that interesting Okay, having not read the novel obviously What a what a shock to go into classic month and and watch a classic that I really liked Yeah, did you watch it with him Johnny? No, but she's seen it. Obviously. I'd assume she's not only seen it Councils times where she told me that her dad had a huge crush on Waheeda on Waheeda. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, this is this is one that I I Really enjoyed this film, but also I could see why Indians really I like absolutely Very Indian and especially for the time and I agree this film actually took about 50 minutes Yeah, I think I looked at the time frame Yep, because it really started to get into the the love story the little bit literally time it literally Took off. Yeah felt like we had a really long runway Yeah, and then it took off and flew to places that the first half gave no indication we were going Yeah, it went one. I was a little confused at the beginning because it went like real fast. I'm like Okay, why was he in why was he in jail? Right? What what is that it? He just became a priest. That's what that's a novel and turning it into a hundred and eighty page script He began. Oh wait, why is he not a priest anymore? It took me a second to realize like we jumped back In time because I I don't think they made that particularly clear Fully in the in that first part Obviously, I figured it out as the film went along what was going on But this went in so many different directions, but especially the end I could see like why oh my goodness Indians really love this film, and I'm sure they had no problem with him wearing orange at the end No, I didn't I didn't see the same outrage not not at all I guess he wasn't dancing riscale. Absolutely. She was obviously she was we'll get into that too But I thought this film The grand scope the grand scope of the songs. Yes another reason why I think this film is so beloved But yeah score in this Massiveness massive old Bollywood Scale songs in it and a lot of them there was like a probably a 20-minute stretch where there was probably like four songs And it was weird because it went from feeling like Lawrence of Arabia this really mellow slow Historic drama, and it became the last American in Paris. It was this just MGM Spectacle of musical numbers. Yeah, I wrote down the very first dance was Amaze she she got all sweaty and she was so expressive, and I immediately Said to entrania was I was watching and I said I can see what your dad had a crush on her that woman's Absolutely sexy and beautiful. Yeah, let's talk about her like yeah her her dancing was impeccable gorgeous some of the best Like that she had so many numbers where she was dancing and did so so well But I also there was one scene towards the beginning with her husband And it's in the cave in the cave the argument scene the argument scene was a Brilliant scene I've written acted Shot cinematography-wise yeah lighting yep every I left probably one of my favorite scenes in the whole film That one and then she has a scene that's carried by Devon on yeah not too far after that That I feel exactly the same way about it was I feel like the writing in this Was way ahead of its time. Oh, yeah, but it was funny because I described this I was like this is a One I think progressive for its time, but also extremely of its time and other. Yes Like a hundred percent agree problematic in some areas as well, but also progressive in other It was very one moment He's telling her she can be anything she wants irrespective of caste race sex religion and then the next moment She said are you going to correct me when I'm bad? Slap me because that's what she expects in a right way. Yeah, I agree it had both But acting I agree that the dance numbers are magnificent But I I was really impressed with her capacity as an actress as well. Yes, I liked her a lot I would love to see more of her work She was a very captivating Yeah, I can't rave enough about the song numbers in this and she's parent. I have you seen any photos of her recently She's alive and looking beautiful as ever really. Yeah. Oh wow. She is still around congrats on that dying Yeah, how old was she in the film then? She was probably early 20s. Really? Yeah, and she's now obviously in her Mid to late 70s. Yeah, I thought she did a great job. It was in the beginning. I like the first 50 minutes There was so many things like Obviously, you can't judge a film based off of today's standards in terms of not just artistically but in terms of like Culture right right and we had to judge it off 1960s Indian culture And yeah, that's why some of the stuff like he was like, oh, I could be pretty strict I would definitely slap you for what you just what you just said right and she was like Oh, I would happily cook and clean for you and take your corrections if you like I was like there's so many Right, but obviously you can't judge Hollywood has so many of those at the time that like it's like what the what kind of civilization were we there's a clip of a James Bond film where Sean Connery is talking to a guy and the Bond girls next to him And he tells her to take off because the men are talking and slaps her on the ass So like you can't judge a film off of today's standards And so you try not to do that, but it's also so funny But because this film had so many of those moments, but it was also extremely progressive In the other ones, which is incredible. Which is super interesting but in the beginning I also like during her first not maybe it wasn't her first. I don't remember but when she finally left him The husband and his name right marko. They were leaving and she was all very childish Yeah, and now that she was like being extremely mean Taking people's watering stuff that they were using to get water for the family and just breaking it Like what do you do? Yeah, you're being an ass right now Stop doing that. Yeah, I mean so This one was like a rollercoaster especially in the beginning because I was Trying to figure out what exactly I was like what happened to him being a priest Yeah, like it wasn't were you the same way? Oh, yeah was not clear that we jumped back in time. No, it wasn't I actually Because I got lost I jumped on to the internet And followed the plot line to where I was to make sure I was aware of what just happened because I thought But this isn't what he's doing now. He just got out of jail and it said it's a flashback from that point Okay, okay, great. It took me and then once it got to about 50 minutes I think the love story between them started going really clear Obviously the song started getting even more grand and amazing Even though I was interested before because I think that seemed between the husband and the wife was in the cave all that Yeah, it was and the production design of the cave by the way was beautiful. I loved it I thought it was like raiders of the lost art. Absolutely. It was really good Let's talk about devinand as well before we get too much into the rest of the film This is our first But I could see why he was such a big star. I agree. He's very small And ronnie said this before I was watching this. She was so happy. We were watching this and at first She asked me what I was thinking of it because I got about 30 minutes into it. She said, what do you think of it? I said, it's okay, and I could tell she Was a little disappointed. I wasn't liking it more. Yeah. I haven't talked to her since I finished it but She told me aside from the crush her dad had on mojita She said you're going to discover why devinand was called the gregari peck of india Is that what it was called? Yeah, interesting. I absolutely not only see the physical resemblance There were times where he strikingly resembles gregari peck but his persona Is very gregari peck if you if you've seen to kill a mockingbird or you've seen mobid dick Those are two of his most famous films He absolutely any role peck played I would cast devinand. Yeah, I agree And he I thought he was for the time obviously, maybe not as small as like a dillip in terms of like that But he I think he's still really small for a time not only in hollywood But obviously in india as well where that was not the the kind of norm of of actors. No, it was more It was melodramatic melodramatic. Yeah all over the top um and it's almost like the the vaudevillian Transformation still going on. Yeah the fact that he was so small um I I really enjoyed his performance and their their kind of chemistry and the weaving of this story Being extremely complex. Yeah of it's not just like I thought I was like we're gonna have a standard love affair But then like he right kind of almost turned into the old husband and being really like selfish And and greedy and they had like these marital Maybe not marital obviously, but these relationship problems Um, it was not simple. No, not a simple story at all. And then obviously him going into The the the last part of the film of him being the uh, I think they called him the shwami, right the shwami Which I did not know was a hindu that they were praying like an indian word for the rain. Um, but the fact that he Was faking it At the time right then kind of was like I gotta embrace it. I gotta I this is what I've sown and people are counting on me now It's like even though I'm not this person, but I've I have to do this now right because people believe in me right and so it's a super interesting Uh, uh The writing of the I'd be interested to read the book obviously how more in depth they go Yeah, I wonder if a big theme in the book is about belief Because that's a that is throughout this She doesn't believe in herself He believes in her because he believes in her she begins to believe in herself Then he stops believing in himself Then people start believing in him And then she starts believing in him and he dies believing in himself. It's just Belief is all over this thing. Yeah. And I like I said the last part is why I think a lot of indians really Really love this film is because of that whole beautiful philosophical Questions about the films and especially obviously the part where you know the it was almost gondi moments, right? At the end of the film and really beautifully shot and hard and not common The those close-up shots of everyone crying her crying him crying the people crying and I didn't see glisser in man. I saw real tears coming out of those human beings I could feel what they were feeling. I thought it was a great climax. Yeah to the film. I also knew I was invested The moment I knew the change had happened because it happened subtly which all great movies do that to you When he asked her to marry her and she got as excited as she did I got happy for them and I realized oh You got me I care about them the in the last sequence um I think it was probably in the last 30 minutes or so and they started doing like the almost angel and devil Yeah, I thought that was super interesting super interesting and I liked it and so far a field from where we came Yeah, like I was like this is not Oh the style of film, but I thought it worked and I thought it did work It was a really interesting to kind of see the goings on in his mind Yeah, and what was happening. I thought it was super ballsy of them to do that Very daring because it wasn't Would the style that the film already was and there's nothing that could have not worked There's really nothing We compare the musical number sometimes to the mgm things because it's the only frame of reference we have culturally for us as americans To say this is what it reminds me of and it's always complimentary But this film doesn't remind me of any other film. Oh, yeah, indian or american It's it's very much it has its moments. Like I said, it felt laurence of arabia pace And then the big musical number turned into last tango, but i'm only making that as a kind of standaway comparison to the scope Very original and I felt it was also very daring. Yeah, I I did I could not have told you in the beginning that Where the film ended never I was like, yeah, they'll probably get together is what I probably would have guessed right for the time I was like it's a big it's a bollywood film. So it's probably be love and then probably I would have never guessed He went to jail for fraud I would have never guessed he only served two years I would have there's so many things I could have and I would have never predicted Some of the shot there was the one shot of her behind the Statues, yeah, and she must have been on some kind of a pulley. Yeah, I love that shot It was a beautiful shot because they maintained The statues were kind of changing their height But their relationship to her hips never changed So they made whatever she was being pulled on to match it so that she it was an incredible shot. I agree. Yeah. Yeah, it was like, um You know like they clearly couldn't They there's my one of my favorite moments is when they're sleeping out in the she's in the car They've just taken her away because she saw her husband cheating And he and the guy are sleeping on the ground And they say it's midnight, but it's clearly a day shoot. Yeah, that was that was That was anon the director saying, yeah, I know it's night, but we're not doing a night shoot We're just gonna shoot this thing at dawn and it'll be a little dimmer. Forget it I don't know who the production design team was on this But vj and anon and his team Did a brilliant job maybe not one I guess the cave was just brilliant, but all the song Yeah, they're massive like when they were in the house like his mom's house in the city they built. Yep And because I love old hollywood Bollywood I'll be in this scenario the old film Practical set that and the rain they did on that when the rain came down They did a they put in a lot of work to make sure that that rain was dispensed evenly among everybody to look like a true Downpour not just in one little spot. It looked like rain was falling from the sky. Yeah. Um, and so I I got this out because I wanted to read about guide because I'm sure guides in here. I bet it is. Yeah But I didn't I wasn't able to the Bollywood book. Yeah But I I'm sure there's a lot of interesting information about this film In it one drawback you'll agree Again, it felt like these songs. It was really important to know what they were saying Yeah, we didn't unfortunately. I looked everywhere. I actually looked in if I had the film because I have a lot of classics Yeah, but I don't uh, I looked everywhere The only place that had it was subs And this is common with classics especially The songs were not subbed and they needed to be they needed to be I know they did when they when they agree to get married and they go into that love song I heard dill and pr all over the place and I said, okay, I get it They're singing about their love and their heart, but I wish I knew every word because it felt The dance numbers felt like the item dance songs, but there were some songs that were Undoubtedly him pushing story for making promises. Yes. They were pushing story forward. Yeah, I that was Unfortunately, sometimes it just happens that way like I don't know why you would sub a film and be like the songs Don't need it, especially in Indian cinema. Yeah, and songs are crucial. I don't I don't get it I I just I don't understand it. It's especially There was a Bengali film and Johnny wanted to find on z channel. It's an older film. It's not subbed She said I get it. It's not a popular film You're not gonna sub everything in guide. Yeah, it's super sure. I don't get it. Yeah, but anyways Those are our thoughts about guide. Glad we finally got to it. Yeah, great kickoff to classic Month if uh, we're gonna watch only outside of new films that come out that we'll see in theaters You have anything coming out? Yeah, I don't think he has anything coming out But most of these We're gonna do and all we'll try to get to as many regions as we can But if it's hindi, I think 1985 I think I did last year in 1980, but I think it's gonna make it 1985 because I still think I mean you could even make before 90 Are considered classic, you know me. I've always felt if it's if it's if it's Beyond a quarter of a century it qualifies. I don't want to include 90s because I know it will be Shahrukh Khan And if we do romance month again in February Shahrukh Khan is gonna be Our Shahrukh Khan reactions But so For the most part any region try to make it pre 1985 I know if we did get to Mali alam it might not be because their classics are maybe a little later in pre 90s time But let us know down in the comments for I know most of you watching this are hindi audience So let us know down below what the next hindi classic we should watch is and you know what? I'm looking forward to I'm looking forward to not just regional classics that we haven't gotten a chance to see because That means so much to us other regions, but other than hindi I'm also looking forward to classics from the Bengali industry that aren't from sajjit rai That would be nice, right Those are the main ones we get now, but I think last year we did uh, just not distant thunder because that that's sajjit rai We did a Bengali classic last year that wasn't rai It was the one about after the famine. I mean after the partition Forgive what it was. Anyway, anyway, uh, let us know what the next classic we should watch is down below