 Welcome back to the AI for Good Global Summit here in Geneva on day three And this is a good chance for us to talk about Africa because I'm joined now by John Kamara Who's the director of Mia which stands for Machine Intelligence Institute for Africa good to see John Thank you very much Chris So I think for understanders that you gave a talk in front of a big group about is AI Neglecting Africa and social inclusion or exclusion even tell me about that So, I mean, I think for us that you AI in Africa is a very important part of the development of our emerging economies and Because of a lot of data that people are collecting in Africa in terms of how they lip frog You know the infrastructure issues that we had before using mobile phone AI is a very Integral part of what we're going to do. So based in that I mean, I think a lot of conversations about AI has really filtered into the African continent And there's this disconnection between what we're doing in Africa across multiple countries And what the world is doing and how they visualize, you know AI going into Africa. So direct answer is yes I definitely think AI has been overlooked a little bit in Africa and yet not playing the devil's advocate But I've spoken to a lot of people here from different foundations all saying they're trying to pour a lot of AI data into use in Africa The keyword you just said is trying They're all trying to but the problem is for you to be able to have any level of success You need to understand the homegrown issues that are hurting the social economy at the very low level So until you can do that actively and also then understand a lot of the you know AI exponents a lot of the AI developers the companies the young kids who are building these tools Until you tap into them properly and begin to engage them and see how they collect this data How they actively use this data then we'll always be having the conversation of great intentions great idea But you know execution is a problem Again, let's take countries like Nigeria, Ethiopia I think Rwanda are going through a double-digit economic growth They've got the they've got the kids to use the people who could who can work on AI then now, don't they? Yes, they do I mean, I mean Rwanda is actively pursuing their own course in AI driven by a very forward-thinking president and then obviously bringing people together and then really looking at how he developed the AI community the young kids Technologically from the secondary school. So that is an impactful but consistent long-lasting approach driven by a positive leader It's all about Nigerian generally government doesn't do much for you know the community or the AI So it is the young people who are actively, you know propelling AI solutions and like for example data science It's at Nigeria, you know, they run AI programs for young people themselves It has nothing to do with the government because they're you know the guys who run it realize that we have to do something We have to first of all teach this kids how to use AI but also change their mindset on how to make sure they use AI for good Ethical AI, you know and also making socially inclusive and the protection of data as well The data that they mine and how what they use that data for from the AI perspective So you gave a talk in front of a bunch of people here. How'd they go down? I think it was it was um, I mean I was coming purely from an entrepreneur perspective I'm an entrepreneur, you know as being Mia, Mia is a non-for-profit. So as entrepreneurs we find Mia So what I talked about was let us really get down to the root cause of the problem and let us find You know those solutions that allow you to be able to talk to the end user directly It went it went down really well because we got a lot of response You know Mia's getting a lot of response from people and a lot of people want to come know Okay, what can we do? You know, how do we you know cut this middleman approach, you know To how we are currently provide funding into Africa for AI project. Where do we find these young people? How can we re-engineer their mind? How can we bring education to you? So we've had a lot of positive response so far. So which is good and this is your first time you've been here The UN platform was it the right place for you to be? I think the best place for us to be able to speak our minds, you know without holding back We spoke our minds here that look we're happy to be here But also we do need to tell you guys a story and there's no better place than to do it at the tender UN platform And now we're now seeing the interest in okay. How can we work with you? That was what we came to achieve here Great. So that's John Kamara talking about artificial intelligence and what it means for Africa and making sure Africa is really Involved in this part of the solution. Thanks again for your time. Thank you very much