 I don't know whether you caught any of Evan under 21 last night. I watched a bar an hour of it, to see how shameless did that. I just saw the little video on Twitter of shameless leading them out or something. Now shameless done alright, he done okay. He went through the motions, like keeping yourself competitive, he done okay. Evan Adl, he was stubborn, he was in and out, showed some nice flashes. And you saw Timothy, obviously he ended up scoring. He showed a penalty in the 91st minute. 1-0 was it? 1-1-0. Right. Which is a decent result really, cos obviously up against season the pros. Good to see them in with the lads because I think we've moved away from this in the last 15 years of... I mean Seamus has done it a few times in all fairness coming back mentally. But I don't think enough of the pros. They've been enough of the older first team. It's not a reserved team per se. I think they should play in it. It should be classified like a reserved team. Which is rather than just the last stop-and-off point of development before you do or don't make it into the first team as well. But you're using it for that, isn't it? At the end of the day is it like, is it confidence, is it fake confidence? Could it send out the wrong thing? Could it be too easy? Is it setting... Are you blocking the development of a young player? Or we can train and play games within themselves that might be tougher and might have bounce games and things like that. I'm not making excuses for them, I just don't think it is reserved football anymore. If it was beneficial to the player. But if the player is just thinking, you know, they're going to laugh at me in the dressing room, I don't want to do it. Then they're their own person anyway. Player works all week to be able to play. If the manager decides he's not playing, then that's us from the manager. You know, Michael Key might work as hard as Jared Branthwaith does this week. But Jared Branthwaith is going to play because he's better. A player sets himself up, all get all week. And what happens if Jared Branthwaith gets sick on Friday night, Michael Key suddenly is thrust into the team. But he's played on the Tuesday night or the Wednesday night in a meaningless trophy for him. I think that's the fine line, I just think. No, I know that. They're all reasons for not doing something, right? I think once in a while, I'm just saying, if it was me personally, I would want to have a game. But I'm only getting three minutes in a... No matter how hard I train, I think it's fine. And they can set up a training session that's like a game. It's not the same as a game. You're playing against an opposition, you're scoring a goal, you're right. I wouldn't do it every week. There'd be no point playing like Beto trains all week. And if you only get a minute on Saturday, he plays every Wednesday night for the 21. No, because that's... There's a question for you. But once in a while, just for game. If I'm perfectly honest, I don't want any of our first team players. Okay, even if it was making them better on the Saturday. What if they get injured? What happens if they don't? If they get in the groove? How do you want to get better? Score goals, confidence. I honestly don't think that matters anymore. I honestly don't. See, I used to live in fear like you. I used to. I think that's much better. One of the benefits, one of the benefits. The benefit is playing in a game environment. If you've played football and you train and you've been sub, but you train every week, does that make you feel like you know what you're doing? You feel good about the game because it never for me. And it is interesting because I think more people will probably be with us. Well, I was about to say that the safety first approach will always get more track. It's not safety. No, it is. It is. It's not. Terrified. It's not. I'm the terrified. On June. I don't think. No, no, listen. I don't think. Whoa, whoa. Let me talk. Let me talk. I don't think. Let me talk. I don't think. I don't think. But I don't think there's anything to gain. That's the point. I'm glad you said that because that's what I want to reply to. On Saturday, on Saturday, if we rock up a palace and it just happens that, like last week where we didn't know Dan June owner and I was injured, if we have a player out, one player could be, could be one of two positions and Dan June would have played in a game and he's called his studs and he's going to be out for a week. Yeah, yeah. That's to me. That's not fear. But that could happen in training now. I know we lose players in training. Training is a controlled, controlled environment. Play for the league one team or league two team coming in and clatter more of our players because he goes. That's where the manager. I just watch the game as he does not. No, nobody, you don't. You can't always envisage this. No, of course. And also you're handing your player over to somebody else as well. You know what I mean? It was literally just... Is there ever a... Do we underuse it for players who don't play games? We think we do and you think we don't. That's fine. Was that good or something? And you've got the pitch and you've got that kind of control over the game. I can see an argument for it, but going on a Tuesday night to Mansfield. Can you do it on Tuesday? That to me, there's no value to it. I just think for a squad R size, I just look at it and go, that's some new work. No value as in... No, okay. Just leave it. I'll go through the comments. Genuinely, will I? I just wanted to say... Go on. Finish it off. The no value in it is no value to the player because the level of competition they're going to get from the opposition just isn't worth the risk. The ground was empty. You haven't got little things like you haven't got your best physio there. You took 74 fans. Exactly, which is more than we did. Which is more than well-gamed. Which is more than... If you're watching now and you went... More than Liverpool. Wouldn't Steven Gerrard get for this hungry? Of course. No, what do mean is that... All the intangibles, like... Like you don't have your best physio there. You don't have peace. Someone might know the play on the table. It's all those things that I just think... No, I won in fifth for Satie. If you want to watch the rest of this video, then make sure you join Toffi TV Premier when you can get access to all our exclusive shows including live daily videos. Click the QR code on the screen here.