 If you are interested in getting to the interplainual world, it's started from years. What mental space were you in? Let's go back to your bringing. What was the environment like to trigger you to the space you have been to? You were not in a position to be thinking on the employment level, but on a level you want to employ yourself? Actually I can say that I have come from the humble background in the kishi community. Imbu machoge. That is the lowest community you can ever find in Kishi. Actually, it's down side the village. So, me have been raised in a village life all the way to the term of university. So, my first time to be in Nairobi, so I came for university. That's when I came to the tall buildings in Nairobi and everything. And then from there, I've been raised as a single parent, from the single parent community. That's where my father cannot be able to afford to bring us the table to the mill. The mill to the table. So, that's why I really actually struggled much to work very hard. You can imagine an extent that you guys can be able to stay even without the mill in a night. So, this triggered me to study very hard because I knew without working very hard I cannot make it in this world. So, that's why I had to do an extra mile of working very hard and then God is on my side. Then I made it to Kambas, so that is why actually now my journey of success started from there. Okay, how many businesses have you opened that failed? Oh, many. Actually, I have done seven businesses and failed. Seven businesses. I have operated a kiosik. I was used to sell a kibanda, matunda, nyanyayizozote. So, I was a student in KCA. So, when I'm not having classes, I used to go together, I get fruits, I come to sell. And I used to sell them in hunters. Those people know Kassarani Hunters Road, when I do a visori. Number two, I used to sell miwa. Ya kukatia wa tu miwa. I have done it several times. So, that's even sometimes when I pass there, those guys very much motivated whenever they see me moving the car around that area. So, we have to sell miwa. So, that was a business. And actually, miwa wasn't that bad. People can see, those people sell miwa, nia kumbawa na pesa. But they can tell you at the end of the day, you go with around 3,000 shillings profit. So, you can imagine a week is around 20,000. Which in other business, employment in a month you can never get that kind of amount. But people think it's a very dirty work. But those guys, I congratulate them so much because of being the good work. And what would you say on that mentality space whereby people look at the joakali sector in a very negative way. It's the fact that I go to school, I have papers and so I have to stick to the lane of just the white collar jobs. That is actually basically like for myself, I have tried as much as possible to encourage people to embrace themselves. When you embrace yourself, you have a lot of opportunity. You have a lot of space. You can work on improve. But when you embrace to somebody else, you have stick to that, assume a secretary working in my office. He stick to the secretary work in the office. She can't move anything else apart from that. But when you are embrace on yourself, you can try to think of any margin me opening a kiosiki here. Outside there, this opportunity for me selling miwa. At the same time outside there, I can do gideri. So you can imagine in your area of working as a kiosike, you see this shop of kiosiki here. You can do 3 to 4 things at the same time and then doing outside there. So that you can say, your current sector to myself is what has made me to become a millionaire at this kind of an age. So far to kwa miwa. So how many are there remaining? I have also sell clothes, I have sell ladies clothes. Yes, I used to sell jackets for ladies blazers. Nime uza sana, pier, alafu ika kuji kachomeka, I used to work with a pattern of mine to kwa kwa zimea kuka. The last business I did then it failed. I opened to get a friend of mine to kwa funguwa shopa parona Dingara Street Yakuzamangu. Then I injected my capital in and I will be talking about the angel investor. Yes, he has talked about that. So somebody shared an idea to me, then I invested in a business. So only to discover that my friend after for some time, like I can say he conned, she conned me because it was not picking, because the first time it was doing well, but after the four months, the books of audits are not doing good because you see for me I was considered in another place, then I invested in another business. So I came to discover that there is a way that if you don't take part of your business day to day running, you get conned and then you get a lossing because you'll be told this losses every time and expenses are going very high. So that's why I lost that business also. So you have to be really involved. Yes, so actually that's I, you see every business I've done, it gives me a lesson to learn. Yes, that it needs a lot of commitment for it to do a business. Okay, currently how many businesses are you running? So far I am running five companies. Oh, I speak about running five companies. I don't want to get into all of them in details, but I would like to get the mentality of the fear of the unknown when you're venturing into something which you have, of course we don't always know what will happen tomorrow or few years down the line when it comes to business and also life in general. But let's look at the business. How do you overcome the fear of the unknown and starting off a new journey in like a new business? I do say business is a risk. Business is a risk. You have to work on the risk. Actually like if today Y254 started and without knowing that maybe tomorrow it's not going to fail, it was not to be here today. So you have to start something knowing that there might be risk. Of course in everything you do there is a positive and there is a negative. But now the positive should outlook the negative. Get my point. And again you are starting a business not about tomorrow, not about today, present, you are looking about tomorrow. So that even if you not be there your she-drain or another people can inherit the same businesses. So I do say to my side we start businesses knowing there is a risk ahead but we try to manover and strive with it to the end. It's on that note that we get into the topic of conversation which is executing a successful business private. So we know business can grow beyond the initial dreams by reimagining their assets and thinking more broadly about their customer problems and then they get to solve them and change in the direction of the company going back to the drawing board. So starting us of Mr. Samuel when we talk of executing a successful business private what does that actually mean? Thank you very much Michelle once again. I would like our viewers to understand first of all business private what does it mean? I remember I was in the lower level when I was in education where I told something about a private what is a private something that changes the direction getting my point. So if people can be able to understand actually the business private especially what it means and actually even the discussion of today becomes of easy for them to understand because a private is something that changes the direction like you hold it this way so you put something here assume this cut here so it can be able to change the direction can go this way can go that way So basically you talk about business now business private is basically changing the environment you getting my point like the direction in which a business is taking this one especially when it's covered the business the product and service is not meeting the market is not meeting the market standard like it's losing already so you have to use you call a pivot to change the direction to change the environment so basically it's all means about changing the direction of a business especially the product the product all the service is not meeting the market standard mostly the business pivot is done to improve the sales also to improve the revenue of the company and would you say it's a complete transformation when it comes to the model of the business model Yes basically yes it is complete change because you see once you are able to understand that my business is not doing well you have to introduce now the business models insight to yourself that which can be able to help you to make it now complete now it no transforms from where it was starting to its ending alright so and when as a business owner when you actually realize that your product and also when it comes to your services they have failed like to achieve whatever your team had sat down had come up with whatever your target goals are going who guys are going for so would you like say that all hope is lost No why when assume you have started a product today you want to sell water to the people after introducing the water to the people it is not well received by the clients outside there by the market outside there you need to understand where have you failed because you cannot say that all is already lost there you need to change you see that it's a thing about people's business you need to change the tactic if it's the research that you have done you can change though you did that market research if it's about marketing you can change the marketing strategies if it's about management you can change so I cannot say that once the business has lost direction the hope is lost No you can still work on it and change what was not done if it was done in half a week do it fully you can be able to give you the results How important is it not always be involved in all sector and I believe we have leaders who feel like if I'm running in a situation probably like five companies that I have to be involved in everything and it's just like how do you call it the way you can just be on the lookout on every of your employees you just want to be involved in everything How important is it to just delegate I can say business actually as we said in the beginning it's about dedication but as fast as possible you cannot be everywhere at the same time now me in the studio business is still is already open there operations are running from time to time so once you see if you have a team that is very much supportive so this one is able to make your businesses go through because you have a team which you encourage them you train them and you see if you have the right team it makes your work easier because they are already well trained they know what they are supposed to do from time to time so your work is to guide I actually advise many young entrepreneurs many young people in management area because I'm also doing in corporate governance so I am able to give a lot of skills in terms of management don't be over around because you get exhausted very fast you get that very fast delegate the work to people let people understand that this work can be done when you are not there so for you as a leader what you do is just actually you become a team reader is to guide when you guide them they are able to do it what sort of emotional intelligence does one have to be to be in that particular lane of mindset because I feel like at the end of the day you feel like this is your baby you know it is all your idea your vision and you are giving out to someone else to just handle it so at all particular point when comes to emotional intelligence just handle that emotional intelligence uncle like you want to be involved in everything yes in the terms of just looking at the psychological part of it the mindset that's why I said from the beginning I'm an empowerment person I need to empower many people why? the future of tomorrow is looking about how many people have been empowered if you empower people area enough you don't need to be having an emotional mind that this business is going to fail when you know there so if you have empowered people at the right time at the right stage so this makes it easier for you you can be able to give them the work they can be able to do it without having an emotional thing that these guys you see there is much of the risk behind because I have been told in a point of an accident even this sometimes I do some quotes there at however much you are very at working your boss gets you when you are already relaxing so these are basically makes me to understand I try to remove such kind of that quote for me and say that give people space you see once you give people space they are able to deliver and this only moves now your emotions I know at some point you feel like let me say like as a boss you want to feel like you want to be involved in everything I want to be involved in construction I want to be involved in real estate I want to be involved in a building of those houses I want to be in building of the retail business I'm doing but if I can be able to give it to the people who are already involved and doing nicely to my emotion side becomes like I'll be like just to be looking around and see what is happening around and it's on that note that I would like to find out what are the ways to maintain stamina to keep going even if the time is tough yes basically I can say every business is tough let me say that no business that is easier I can tell you ask about people me of course this is a time I lost like 7.5 million when I was voting Kago how did you survive that okay let me say I was a part I was doing some trade industry retail over selling printing papers okay those people who know me they know me from Samayolimited house to have a common name Samayolimited my offices in Modega Square ground for room number 8 so I used to sell machines and also selling printing papers then so my first line of business is selling the printing machines the printers, the copiers and also the banner machines actually even men people today they know me as a machine retail person so after doing that business for a year then I came to discover this another opportunity in selling printing papers I did my research very fast actually I did a research I also did a business plan and then I take it to one of my investors who take the business and then pump the money to that business then we bought it at Kago you can imagine we bought it at Kago from China it was around mid of the COVID time 2020 then after you bought it at Kago imagine we were served by all the documents including the government of Kenya of creating the documents if you know those customs clearance documents everything with caps and everything the training that our product is in the port coming to Kenya here and basically it was taking around 2-4 weeks for the Kago to arrive in Kenya here the customers are waiting for that product I can tell you in Kenya paper business is very hot kick very much hot kick because we don't produce paper on our own we were able to import it from the other country give you a better rate so we were able to sell so I was very much ambitious of that business then I invested in that business only to discover by the time the Kago is arriving in the port it was only an empty container omg nice an empty container of 7.5 million 2 of them actually 2 of them is a pure record I think those who have already discussed in my social media before how I did that business in the field so basically I can say that business to lose nothing that is and were you able to take legal action I did it actually even we launched a case as we speak in China there is a case which is proceeding in China because this is what happens they tell us that once the Kago has arrived here there was no container inside so we info the DCI we info the securities of the port now the case started to flow where the container but it have been the Kago it have been lost up to today we speak no justice has been found still the case in China mean told the hearing is the next year so you can imagine wow from last year to next year how do you keep saying after that level of experience this is just one of the experience yes this is just one of them so how do you how do you stay sane and still keep going you see now actually after that business was lost my hope was like almost gone until I came to restructure myself again and do another business actually that is why the first time after now that you see all the money actually it left us with nothing because all the amount that we had we invested in that business so we were many with nothing and most of the money was from the bank loans you can imagine you have borrowed money injected it has already gone so we had to restructure again with my team we sat down and said this cannot be the end of life you see there is something we do say life has to continue you have failed you have lost everything but the beauty is about life has to continue so that is why now we invested now again in the construction industry so I did a partnership with friends of mine in the construction industry then we formed a government of construction then we started now applying for works of construction oh my goodness wow it takes a lot of resilience and patience to just come back to the scene of you know different business as well from that space of mindset and it's from that I would like to find out you deal with lots of clientele and when it comes to business pivoting that is a very crucial point of view because that is where you make your sales how important is it to acquire feedback from your retained clientele and also potential clients thank you very much Misha once again I do say in every business you do clients and customers become the key they are the ones to tell you if they are willing to consume your product or not and I do say actually like to us as a company customer becomes our priority so the voice of a customer it tells you how much the product is moving outside there if you hear actually if you sell a product and you get these low sales basically there might be a thing either customers are not receiving that product well number two they might have not have enough information about that product because you see customer I do say is a funny person at the same time is a good person the customer can tell you either they are willing to take the product or they are not willing to take the product if you get a negative feedback from a customer this means at some point they might be offended either by your price by the quality by the quantity of it itself by the packaging so the customer feedback is always the key it can tell you why you need to do some adjustments it can be either the branding of that product or the customer service so as a management you need to work on that branding it can be about the price it can be higher than the other customers the other retailers are doing what setting so the voice of a customer and the feedback can help the management basically in making a decision it can be about the quantity the quality of the product itself even the service actually you see when people mention most of the people talk about the product even the service itself when you get a client telling you these are not well served in the office so as a management you need to struggle and work hard and see where was the challenge that's why most of the companies and corporations insist much as possible to get the customer feedback what are some of the ways to pivot your business what are a couple of ways that one can put in terms of running a business that can help in pivoting their business to another level thank you very much Mishel for it actually already mentioned before basically you can put in this way how to pay for your business absolutely good number one is to engage the customers number two is to do the market research do the market research it doesn't have to do a market research you try to know what are these people doing what are they wanting what is being received outside there focusing also on your competencies if a company is good in these things it should focus on that but the one I mentioned about improving a customer is very very very much key to an organization and also communicate the changes I do say this thing from time to time if you have something in your business and you want to do something always communicate it to customer because customers should not wake up in the morning and they found you have already moved to another place in this area and you want to move to wastelands basically alert your customers that you will be moving the customers will always have confidence in you like in this way try as much as possible to engage your customers it is called about communicating about the changes to customers tell them you will be moving from here to the other place if it is about the price change give people time to adjust tell them that from next week we shall be having an offer get those responses then by the time of action by next week the customers are well informed about this thing so you prepare them prior so we looked at how to pivot your business so let's look at at what particular point do you look at the situation in your business and you actually realize by the way it's time for me to make changes because most people just run businesses and they don't realize that it's time to take a laid back seat and just review the whole thing basically number one is about we said how the sales are moving sales gives you everything it's about revenue and also the quantity so assume this week you have been selling like 9000 tons therefore when you are selling 2000 tons immediately cricks to your mind something is going wrong so basically about the growth let me say it is about like a growth a growth in sales can tell you the right direction the slow of the growth of the sales can tell you there is something that is behind that needs to be worked on so at any given point like when you are making losses basically can be able to tell you that there is something that needs to be pay for the business to be pay for it number two when you are getting a negative feedback from the customers this helps you that you need to pivot on your business basically matchable the sales and revenue and also the customer feedback when you also face about stiff competition inside there like in us corporates we do say about this a corporate delivery so if you find there is a corporate delivery you need to come back again and see where you need to do changes adjustments in your business to make it better when it comes to still on clientele angle when it comes to you changing or modifying prices for either products or anyone who is running a service kind of a business or clients they retain clientele what sort of modification or how can you just manuva around that sorry come once again I am saying when it comes to anyone who is running probably you sell products or services and you realize that the point of change that has to be made is on the price area and you know that is a very crucial point because if I am a regular client of your services and I come back and I realize that you have changed the prices and you know I will of course I think of other ways maybe competition but how can you modify prices in a way that you will also retain clientele what is the strategy behind that thank you very much that actually is a base on how to work on through the market number one let me use I actually like using an example maybe I might be a teacher very soon so assume you have been having a regular customer coming to buy bread and I have been selling bread at 50 shillings there are some factors which make the bread to go high nambuan can be the cost of production we see there are some external and internal factors some external factors are beyond your control you see me as a as a seller let me say me as a business we are selling a bread and then I came to discover tomorrow we will go high you see the customer doesn't know doesn't actually understand those factors but me as a person who is involved in selling these things I am able to know because assuming in this way that the cost of fail has gone high so means the production is going to be what very high so when the cost is going very high for manufacturing it is going to affect the people buy from them so ask when you come to sell to the business to the people now also therefore the government is not selling to the people you can ever do nambuan as I said in the beginning infor of the customer in the change when the customer is coming to buy talk to the customer nicely and tell him because we have been selling the bread at 50 shillings but now it is going for 55 because of A, B, C and D the customer is going to make an informed decision don't sell to him the bread before you inform him actually if the milk has been retailing I know understand currently the bread is around 55 shillings let me talk about to our my operations of what we do let me talk about the issue about the lands because you get the land always appreciate some time to time now when you are selling the property like currently we have the properties that I am selling in Ruiru the value is around 800,000 currently so by tomorrow you get some factors I have made the price to go and the area has gone very high the stamp duties are already charging going very high for doing those exchange you get also the legal fees that we usually charge already being defaced because the factors which are incorporated in a setting of the properties so when a client is coming to buy a property from us we tell him peria that sorry because we have been selling the product at 800,000 but now because of these factors and also introducing something also because it can be actually you can also do branding to make your price also to go very high not very high but a little bit higher let me say the change of that price so you inform the customer that our price has changed from A to B because of so so this one the customer is going to make an informed decision because actually some other people you inform them they will be very okay but without informing them this client may think you want to take money from him so he is going to go to another place and try to look for the other price alternative you feel like you are trying to take advantage yes like the time of covid you get somebody selling your mask at 50 shearing you get my point currently now if you go to the streets and sell for me market I can buy I can buy but you move your mask thank you very much we come to any startup of business and everything and they are looking for an angel investor tell us with an angel investor and how we can find one thank you very much an angel investor actually is any individual any person that is willing to put his money to a startup company and in return of that person is just expecting something right can be a debt also equity capital yes equity because you see if I invest your man today assume today because we have said basically one thing people need to understand in before area times people need to know angel capital no angel investors are the white people you get my point but in the current market where we are today angel investor can be anybody individual that is willing to give his capital for the start of a business and when is the right time to seek for an investor okay where can you get the angel angel investor thank you very much you can get them many places number one in angel forums because these angel investors they are forums these people go for summits you can go there identify one person number three in charge at your congregation where you go and worship like that's why we worship in church we have so many business people there and people don't even realize that they don't realize you just go to church you think you are going to worship prayer and go home and you don't network with this yes so the more you network with people outside there even in church in schools in any other market places and any other forums where people are congregating you are having a right creeper of getting an angel business also you can also meet them you know I've said about summits forums angel businesses also church markets and also family and family members you can imagine your family and your members you can imagine your family you can have some people are worthy your uncle is worthy and he does not need to invest so you can introduce that to him so even in family setup you are able to get an angel investor in a business you mentioned that uncle I remember those uncles who told us to send them they are still looking on them they are still looking on them so they still respond so when is the right time to seek for an investor the right time to seek an investor anytime is the right time once identify a gap business gap you are likely to have an investor let me say for myself those people who know me I was telling people I became a millionaire at the age of 21 years old ah repeat that again we need to sit okay we need to sit at the edge and listen to that I became a millionaire at the age of 21 years old how? number one when I was in Kampas actually I was already a millionaire by the time I was finishing in Kampas at the age of 21 years old by saying a millionaire because I feel like also Kenyans when you have 1 million we call it a millionaire so what does a millionaire the context of being a millionaire the context remains in this thing number one is about the assets assets are already required and also the liquid cash you have so don't ask me to mention about the assets that will be a story of another day so basically I can say it is possible because in a way of structuring yourself by that time makes you to be the same so there is something basically you are asking me I wanted to answer it so I don't know if I can answer it or not you can answer what was it all about you mentioned you were a millionaire at a very young age so you threw us off Kedogo but yes we were talking about the right time to seek an investor I was giving my own example it's easier to use my own example than use the other people's example so what has happened in Beskaris here when I was in Kampas I discovered this opportunity I used to attend many of the business forums many of the business trainings then I was told if you have a good plan somebody is able to buy it there is a lot of people outside there who have money they don't have what they can be able to invest they have money but they have no idea of what they can use it so you basically outside there you can have a plan like for myself I had a plan of selling printer's copies machines and importing them and you understand in Kenya for you to import those things you need a lot of money and then I took it to one of my investors one of my team that I knew was looking for people but he did not have an idea of what he can be able to invest so I did a business plan then I took it to him then I did that presentation to him I told him I can be able to manage this business I can help you to get the market actually even I will show him the markets like for copiers and printers I will show him you can sell to schools you can sell to printing industry you can also sell to individuals working from home an investor by my idea gave me the capital we invested we formed a company we did that business of doing what selling the printers so the first thing once we identify the gap in any market I can trust even me here today as I am speaking Michelle you tell me this is a business here and I look it to my side it's workable I can invest so I am also a potential investor to invest okay now we know so how to keep on top of new development from your competitors in every industry we have competitions it's about strategy strategy is the key competition strategy do your research you see you are able to see what is the other person is outshining you if it's outshining you in advertising go beyond the advertising mechanism he is using if this guy if the company pat b is outshining you because of branding you also need to work on unique features to make your product unique I like using examples of myself and what I do basically in our properties some people can sell you properties which have no value additions on my side as a real estate and also a developer we come up with all our projects we service them we do value additions to them if the other people are selling like lowland I can come over an extra mile of giving clients a plot a property which is serviced with internal roads marams, well sewage connections sora streets inside planting trees, beautiful flowers beautiful gates so this makes you to be top of the other competitor makes you top from the other person so it's all about seeing what they are being different exactly that's being unique if you become unique actually I tell people to take credit people need to understand in every business have a reason why somebody cannot take away your job you getting my point even the embryos who are listening me outside there anybody that is in any form of employment let your boss have a reason of why not taking your work from you the boss is trying to fire you tomorrow is like why can I getting such kind of a person tomorrow Michelle as we hosting a show today you need to have a reason to be able to having you here today even the time you are getting old they can still have you Michelle we need you back in the studio why because they need to know what you are doing is different from any other person that is doing outside there you can agree with me through this conversation it has been point clean clear that client are the major key here very very major key so ways to offer exceptional customer service sorry number 1 valuing the customer number 2 getting the feedback the feedback wants to get the feedback you have really value this customer because you see actually let me tell you something if you have not known in this market customers need to be had the voice of a customer is very key to a corporation is very key to any sector so if you are able to understand your customer I can tell you the customers will value even you today you need to stay where you are being valued when you release your voice you are able to be had by the management so wherever you go and you are able to value your clients your customers this can basically tell you that you are willing to be part of them you see a customer need to be a part of something even today even in a family setup you need to be somewhere you need to be valued somebody who values you somebody who sees your potential your capacity and everything so if you are able to value a client you need to be a customer so this means they will be getting like they will be part and parcel of that thing so they will be able to get valued and be able to work with you Bonasama we in the new years spirits and everyone out here has resolutions and everything do you have any Results over this year oh yes many of them are you one of those people who carry forward the ones that you didn't achieve they went with 222 on out there just being carried forward to myself I say because you see I mean the industry and also in many businesses so there is something that you never do right in last year I have to try as much as possible to do it in this year why? I told you this is a customer mind this is something which customer realize that you never do it last year good so if I keep it 221 and I assume this 222 that customer is still there you get my point I also need to bring that customer from 222 so I have to try as much as possible to analyze where did I go wrong where did I not do right in that time so this basically will keep me moving from time to time like my year this new year 222 resolutions I have many of them can you allow me to share with them maybe top 3 number one is to set many people in Kenya to have their own plots in Kenya like to have their own homes actually that is my dream and actually I am on first thing I am on first thing for 7 days first thing I thought when people are first thing I am not supposed to say but ensemble they are supposed to to keep it to yourself oh is this not a spiritual first thing no no no no I am even encouraging my clients outside there even my people outside there to join me as we first for the year 2022 because there are some things we never did right in 2021 so we are asking God intervention from God to help us achieve it in 2022 I am also praying that God to give me favor to set so many people as possible to their own homes in 2022 like now currently I have a very beauty vested in heaven guidance Ruiru East so people can come there and they set there by giving them those properties on affordable prices which they can be able to set also actually my resolution in 2022 is to have at least if possible in this 200 people set in that area number two number two also reaching to the community is also my dream resolution this year which has passed I have done some but there is a lot of each like every day I wake up to see on my social media on my whatsapp on my social media platforms I get a lot of people looking help from me I get a lot of people looking employment from me so my dream is also this year resolution at least go to help me to touch many people hearts yes the last one the last one oh my God family family yes very crucial it's the center of it let's look at financial management especially during this time people are very excited this is new year people have great plans and that is amazing so what a couple financial management lessons that you have learnt along the way where it comes to you running different kind of businesses thank you very much Misha I can basically say payment is the key in every organization budget costing budget is the key for every organization for you to succeed you need to do what you call priority half what just give a priority to whatever that is supposed to be done if you just throw your expenses everywhere you will find yourself you are learning out of cash you are learning out of money from your businesses the entrepreneurs outside there number one on financial management is very key they need to do much of the budgeting let them budget you cannot budget of what you don't have you try to budget upon terms of what you have currently number two as I said about your priority try to find out which can be sorted first what can you set first the other one comes out later on because you are able to budget about your expenses then this can be able to help you revenue or the targeted research so basically financial management is very very very much key for every organization you can have it in terms of how you are doing your costing your expenses everything but basically the main key is about how you are handling your costs your expenditures like let me say about because nothing can run without money in this economy so you have to budget everything and you have to get what are the books that you have read that has been of great impact to you and also who is your mentor let me say I have a lot of mentors let me say to my boss Mr. Hans Amzu he is the director also in church of Chena Uwi he is my big big mentor he mentors me especially in church in terms of businesses I have been mentored by Jojua Shiori he is a good good mentor to me and actually let me say I have learned a lot of skills from him he takes time to listen to me whenever I make a phone call to him he said to help me as much as possible so I can say today Jojua Shiori and his book he has written a book he goes souling like an ego after that book much and wherever he is this morning I don't know if you can be able to hear me but I do much and I greatly value much and also many other friends who help me to mentor me much and also there is a very nice book I do read when I am free the poor dad and the rich dad you have read about it? yes so this one actually I can read about even those brothers the team that is outside there I can tell them that when they have time tell them read that book it's called the poor dad and the rich dad how you want to do your business and how you also run it and I am not forgetting Mr. James Proti he's a good friend of mine I don't know if he's watching this morning he also encourages me on how actually we take time to share together and I can tell people always get associated with people who are the value to you actually this year we said we have scissors so anybody that is cutting us off from our plan we cut it off we are going to buy one because it's a new year so stay with positive people who are able to encourage you to empower you to stay in the right direction absolutely and that is the way to go if anyone wants to keep the conversation going how can they reach out on your social media handles? actually my social media platforms this is the same you can reach me on Instagram, Twitter all my social platforms is that way you can reach me on my phone yes I can give it out 0799432427 0799432427 for those people who want to reach me out for speaking on their public gatherings in church but I do speak in churches I also speak in forums gatherings I also mentor people I do forums and summits to mentor and get many businesses I am also actually a coach I mentor businesses I mentor young people who want to succeed in business so they can be able to reach me also on my email actually if you go to my end social media platform and then such you can be able to reach me there I can be able to respond to you anytime and I can be able to listen to you whatever you want advice for me thank you very much Samuels thank you very much for creating time for people to shake no how do you do this executing a successful business different ways you can go about it and just what matters when it comes to just making changes in your business when they are not doing well thank you very much so there you have it so make sure you stay tuned you have so much coming your way right here on why in the morning remember if it's Tuesday it matters pertaining entrepreneurship Tuesday the hashtag to use is hashtag my name is Michelle Ashira we will be back with so much right here on why in the morning