 I think it's weird that people get in the car, drive to the gym, get on a treadmill to walk. It's kind of like getting an English degree when you speak English. I'm like, what are you doing? Walking. And it's not 10,000 steps. I've tested that. If you look at the actual science, Daniel Lieberman is a guy everybody should follow. He's a Harvard paleoanthropologist. So he looks at our bone structure and reconstructs what we were built to do. Our ancestors, men walked about seven to eight miles every day, which is about 15,000. So in 150 body, you take the zero way 15, that's how many steps you should do 15,000. 10,000 is like Muhammad Ali said. He's like, I don't count my pushups till they start to burn a little. Like you're a strong guy. You do 10 pushups. You're going to get all the burn, the good stuff comes from the 10 to 15,000. And women, other women walked a little bit less. So like 12,000.