 Good morning everybody. Or at least it's morning here in Redmond where I am currently in the good state of Washington. And I'm still in my garage. This is the home office setup that I still have here and I'm getting used to a standing desk which I've never had before. And I got one of those mats to stand on those anti-fatigue mats it's called. And it really, really helpful. Makes me able to stand here for much longer than I was in the beginning. I don't know if that actually helps or if it's me, I'm getting more used to it and or whatnot but it's getting more comfortable. So thank you very much for joining us. Everyone on the live stream and everyone watching on demand on YouTube. This is the third episode and as usual we take live Q and A here. So if you are a live attendee you have a question and answer section please feel free to ask any questions about today's subject or any other subject related to Visual Studio and today's topic is Visual Studio subscriptions and how they can help us in general but also like now that we're working from home hashtag quarantine life and we'll see what's in there because I don't know myself a lot about subscriptions and I know that a lot of other people don't know about these subscriptions and I've heard that people are not even aware whether or not they are subscribers or not. So to help us demystify this, what are subscriptions? What are some of the benefits we can get? We have a guest in the studio and it is Katie. So Katie welcome to the show. Hey Mads, thanks for having me. I love the studio, the home studio. Yeah, it looks great. Can you tell the audience a little bit about who you are and what are this that you do with Microsoft? Yeah, so my name is Katie Bushlin. I am a program manager here on the Visual Studio subscriptions team. I've been here for about two years now and it's been a really interesting wild ride. So as some of you may know, this was formerly MSDN subscriptions. It was rebranded, I wanna say four or five years ago now. A lot of people still refer to it as MSDN but it is now Visual Studio subscriptions and it's been quite an interesting journey learning the 25 plus years of history, learning about how things used to be shipped out physically and you would get a physical disk with your MSDN on it and now it's all online and digital. I've spent the first bit of the time on the team here just learning about all of that history and now I'm taking my learnings and trying to update the user experience within the portals and within how you actually use and leverage your subscriptions so we can make it better. That's awesome. So MSDN subscriptions, I am fully aware of what that is or at least I think I am because I know that I was an MSDN subscriber in the past. I have been a Microsoft MVP as well which gives you for free and MSDN subscription and that was the place that I could go online. I could never remember the address or where to go exactly so I had to like, I Googled it like MSDN subscriber downloads I think I searched for to go download a version of Office or Windows or Visual Studio or other software. I think it came with basically all the software Microsoft had and I loved it. That was like where I would get all my software and I never had to worry about licenses and all that sort of stuff. It was legal, it was all great and available, right? It was fantastic. And so that is my knowledge of MSDN subscriptions back in the day but I have a feeling there's much more to it than that, is that right? This is not just about downloading software anymore. Yeah, definitely as downloads are very big part of it. As you mentioned, we do depending on your subscription level have almost anything Microsoft has ever offered. We still have MSDOS. If for some reason you want to get a copy of that it's still there, it's still in our catalog. And actually one of the things I'm looking at right now is how do we make that downloads experience better? So if anyone in the chat here or anyone that's listening to this afterwards has any feedback for us and what that you like and what you don't like you're gonna see surveys starting to pop up in that downloads experience soon. And if you can please take the time to give me your feedback so we can make that better. That would be really appreciated. But as you said aside from downloads there's all sorts of benefits that you get with your subscription. I'm gonna share my screen here and I can show you now where you actually go to see what you have. Let me know if you can see this here. Okay, hang on. I'm moving alive here. Perfect. There we go. Perfect. So you're gonna wanna come up here to my.visualstudio.com. The benefits page here is the main page that you're probably gonna be most excited about here if you don't realize that you have all of these fun things. A big one that was really helpful for right now when you're at home is Pluralsight and some of our training benefits. So depending on what subscription you have you can get up to six months of free Pluralsight training. We also here have a toggle where you can see what else. So there's LinkedIn Learning, there's Data Camp. You have a one year subscription to Code Magazine. So a lot of really great resources here that you can leverage when you're trying to learn a new skill or freshen up on something that you've maybe done in the past. Very cool. So I really like that we have like Pluralsight is up there. I think that might be one that some people know about and working from home right now. And it's a different type of work pattern that we have. I don't have like this sort of linear routine that I used to have where I put some work in in the morning then I had lunch, then I put another chunk of work and then I went home. It is no longer like that. I have to go outside. I have to sit somewhere else to change things up a bit. And I think something like watching and learning like from a Pluralsight or something would be extremely helpful here these days, right? So I don't know. Do people actually take advantage of these Pluralsight courses? Yeah, for sure. One of the cool things about Pluralsight is you don't have to just do it on your laptop. They have all sorts of apps. So you can connect to, I believe Apple TV or your Roku and actually sit down on your TV and watch on your couch. And you don't have to just be sitting in front of your laptop or your computer all day. I know for myself, I'm sitting here all day. I wanna get up from my desk. I wanna be able to walk around. Maybe while I'm cooking dinner, I can have something going on. I'm streaming to my TV so that I'm not just sitting in front of a screen all day or for yourself. You have your new standing mat, which looks really, really comfortable, but you may not wanna stand in your garage all day. You may wanna be playing with your kiddos and have something on in the background as well. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. Should I share your screen again? Let's see what else is there. Yeah, so some of the other things here, you get an Azure monthly credit. So depending on your subscription level, you can get upwards of $150 a month. And that refreshes every month with no actual charge to yourself or your company. So you can go in, you get your own little individual sandbox that you can play around with, freshen up your skills, maybe build some cool stuff in there. And once your $150 is up, it just stops. So you don't have to worry about your company being billed or yourself being billed. If you do wanna spend more than that, you can of course attach your credit card to it and spend more, but there's by no means any pressure to do that. Right. Yeah, that's how I use Azure. I host a bunch of websites up there and it's all so free. It's all comes with my subscription. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, really cool. So let me go back to the all category and I can just kind of scroll through here. And yeah, you can see all the goodies that come with your subscription. We also have some technical support incidents here that if you're really stuck somewhere and you need some help, typically the paid support for Visual Studio is just that it's paid. But this gives you four incidents that you can actually open up and get that help that you need without having to have to pay for anything yourself. So hang on. So that's actually really important because this is different from reporting an issue. So in Visual Studio, you can go up and you can say help, send feedback, report issue or suggest a feature. But that's not what this is. This is a much deeper like one to one type of help that you get with someone on the other end of the phone and they help you diagnose and troubleshoot and all this sort of stuff. Is that what it is? Yeah, exactly. Oh, exactly. So it literally works by, you know, you call in. Is that how it is? Actually you chat. So you chat to activate it and then you get a number that you can use moving forward. So you don't need to chat every time but you get that number almost like a promo code to be able to apply the free benefit to it. Okay, so there's a huge array of different types of benefits here it looks like and it's not just Microsoft things but you mentioned Pluralsight. Yeah, exactly. A GitHub logo I saw it there too. There's a bunch of other things. Well, I guess you can say that's Microsoft but. But if, so if I had an MSD end subscription am I now automatically a visual studio subscriber? Or how or is there any transition that I had to do to get there? Nothing you have to do on your side. If you had that MSD end subscription, you know, you just come here, log into my.visualstudio.com using the email address that your subscription was associated to. And you should see if you just have one, you'll just see the one in the dropdown here. There is a chance that you might also have dev essentials. So this is a really cool program that you can sign up for. There's no cost to it and it gives you a bunch of other little benefits here. Very similar, you know, you can get the Azure free account with a $200 credit. There is a Pluralsight here as well. Code magazine and data camp. And this is all free as well. So you may see this one in the dropdown but you can kind of click here and toggle between your subscriptions to see. I have a test account here so I have a couple more subscriptions than most people would have. But generally you'd see your MSDN subscription here probably renamed to Visual Studio Enterprise or Professional or whichever level it is that that one was merged into. Okay, so we have a question here from someone anonymous on the live chat saying, one benefit I see is the MS 365, is that a new benefit? I can definitely use that. Yeah, that one we've had for a little bit now and it recently merged with E5 just to make things better for you. So that one definitely log in and check it out. You can click here to activate or there's a little info button where you can learn more. So what type of stuff do you get from that subscription? So that one is a developer account. It's not meant for production use but it's meant you can start developing with Microsoft Graph, SharePoint, Teams. And I believe it, yeah, it's for yourself plus 24 users here. So it's really great if you're working on something with your team. Wow, that's fantastic. Okay, yeah, that's a great benefit right there. Yeah, and if you check out docs.microsoft.com we have documentation that covers a little bit deeper on most of these. I'm not a Microsoft 365 expert, otherwise I would dive deeper into that one for you. But it is covered in our documentation and Mads, I don't know if we can share out more information afterwards. But yeah, perfect, we can do that then. Yeah, that's something that other people have asked for. Like put links in the YouTube things in the description on YouTube. So I will make sure that all the links we talk about here today are linked from the description. Fantastic. Katie, you mentioned the DevEssentials. And that's something I've seen. I've seen it for like several years. It shows up on the websites on different areas of this Visual Studio information online. And I've never really understood what it was. I always thought it was like it's a separate subscription or it was something that is like a cheap way to get the DevTools you need plus a little bit extra or something like that. But if you take that and compare it to the Visual Studio subscription which is the old MSN subscription, how does that fit in and what's the difference and who should get the Visual Studio subscription versus the DevEssentials? And also is DevEssentials a subscription? It's not a true subscription in the sense of our Visual Studio subscriptions. It's more of an introductory taste to what you'd need to get started. So it comes with Visual Studio Community, Visual Studio Code and you can get started if you need an IDE and you don't need the full Visual Studio IDE. Community and VS Code are great lightweight editors that you can use as well. And then just as a small introduction to Pluralsight. So you get the one month of Pluralsight, you get an Azure one time $200 credit to kind of get your toes wet if that makes sense. Okay, is it for startups or who's it for? It's for individuals. Okay. Yeah, if you want to learn some new skills on your own. Yeah. And then we can link out some information about DevEssentials as well. They have a whole webpage that you can read all about it. So if you today are using Community. So that means if you use Community, it is very likely that you don't have a Visual Studio subscription because it's a free service. Is that correct? Most likely, yeah. Okay, so in that case, DevEssentials is a no brainer. There's no reason you wouldn't sign up to the free DevEssentials and get a bunch of stuff literally for free. It's like Microsoft is handing you money. Is that sort of how it works? Yeah. I'm sure they would love us to describe it that way. Yeah. And if you do have a paid subscription and you'd like to sign up for DevEssentials, if you go to the subscriptions tab here, you'll see. Let me get your screen there. Okay, perfect. Sorry. I realized I wasn't sharing still. So let me just leave this program real quick. So you'll see this button up here, Join Visual Studio DevEssentials. So when you click that, it gives you a little taste of what things are here. You can read the terms and conditions, of course, and then confirm that you're joining. And then when you go back to the benefits page, you'll see it appear in your dropdown, just like I had there. If you've never had it when you come in, you'll see a slightly different landing page here that will say, we don't have any subscriptions for you. Would you like to join DevEssentials? And you can join directly from that page if you're a brand new user. So it's a really cool program. I definitely suggest checking that one out if you don't have a paid subscription. Also, if you have Visual Studio standalone and you don't have the subscription, you just have access to the IDE. Maybe there's some other benefits in here you'd like to check out. Yeah. Another thing I'd recommend here, if your company has Visual Studio subscriptions, but you don't have one and you're wondering like, how the heck do I ask for one? If you know someone who has a subscription, you can actually have them use this contact my admin button. And when they click that, it opens up a bit of a web form where they can actually message the admin. And maybe say, hey, like, hey, Mads really wants a subscription. How do we go about getting him one? If you don't know your internal policy for requesting one, that could be really helpful. That actually brings in a very interesting aspect because a company can have a company-wide or team-wide subscription that covers all the employees. And then you can have an individual, I as an individual, maybe I'm a run my own business. I'm a contractor and I can have a subscription just for me as well. Is that accurate? Yep, yep, exactly. So if you wanted to purchase one, you can purchase a retail level through the Microsoft Store. We also have what we call monthly subscriptions that you can buy through, it's marketplace.visualstudio.com. And you're basically paying monthly for professional or enterprise and you get access to the IDE through that. And then your company can purchase it as well. Microsoft also has a number of free programs. Like you mentioned the MVP program. We have Microsoft for startups that will come with a Visual Studio subscription as well. So there are all sorts of different ways to be able to get your hands on a subscription. You're looking for one. All right, and can you talk a little bit about like the different prices and like if you want to use Visual Studio Pro, then what are your options to get a subscription and what are the different price points and so on? So to basically help us figure out like depending on who you are, how do you find out what the right subscription is to you? Let's say that the right one always is the one that is cheapest that gives you the most benefit. Let's say that's the criteria we're using here. Yeah, definitely. Pricing does get a little bit sticky when you're talking about your company as your company may have different agreements with Microsoft. But if we're just talking about an individual, let me share my screen again here. If you come to visualstudio.microsoft.com slash subscriptions, here's a great webpage that kind of lets you know everything about your subscription, what comes with it. You can go to a compare subscriptions benefit page here that lets you actually toggle between the different subscriptions available and see what exactly comes with it. So if you're looking for, I really want the one that comes with this particular benefit, you can check to see does it come with that level? What am I getting here and be able to really use that to sell to your management team or whoever it is that's approving your purchase to say I really want this thing, here's why. And then if we click, go ahead. No, I was just asking where can I see the price? Yeah, so if we go buy a subscription, you get the pricing options here and you can toggle between professional and enterprise and see the price and then what comes with it at that level. So is this $45 per month for the professional subscription? It's for the professional monthly subscription. This one comes with the IDE and access to Azure DevOps. It doesn't come with Azure benefits and Pluralsight and all of those other goodies. So it's a very lightweight basically IDE access and Azure DevOps access only. Okay, so I may drill into that for a little bit. So that means when we say IDE access, we mean specifically Visual Studio Professional. Yes. Not Enterprise, not community, but professional. Yeah, for that level. If we toggle over to Enterprise, it's $250 for Visual Studio Enterprise monthly, which is very similar. You get the Enterprise IDE and Azure DevOps with this one. Okay. So let's get that chat when you have to go away. Oh, don't load. All right. Live demos. Okay, so there's a 5x difference between the pro and the enterprise and also the amount of benefit you then get is substantially different. Yes, substantially more. Plus you get the enterprise version of Visual Studio which has more features than the pro version. Yes, exactly. And there's even a little compare IDEs right down here. So you can see, do I need the enterprise version? Do I need the professional version? And see exactly what comes with each version of it here. So you can even see from community that you can get with Visual Studio Dev Essentials and then the professional and the enterprise version. So am I looking for testing tools and debugging or what's really important to me? So you can expand these and look for the exact feature that you're looking for within the IDE itself. Oh, that's really helpful. We should get that, we should get that link in the description too. Is there a quick link like a KAMS that you know of on top of your head for this one? I'm not sure, but we could make one. Okay, yeah, because this is fantastic. Yeah. Okay. And so it does say Visual Studio Community as in the first column there, but really what we're saying here is it's Dev Essentials. Is that right? Dev Essentials is a program that comes with community. So you can sign up for, you can use community on its own, but you can also sign up for Dev Essentials that gives you access to those other goodies we showed, like the $200 Azure credit, the Pluralsight, Code Magazine. Right. So you have to sign up for that one separately. Okay, so maybe, so that chart that you just showed, it had community, pro and enterprise. Yep. And in community, it had a bunch of things, but is it community of the IDE, or is it the community plus Dev benefits that's in that column? Oh, that's just community of the IDE. I see. Okay. Yeah. So it's not a, do we have a side-by-side comparison between Dev Essentials and the pro and the enterprise subscriptions as well? We don't, but maybe that's something we should make. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. That's a very good point. Maybe we, I can talk with the Dev Essentials program manager and see if that's something that he'd be interested in exploring. Okay. So it sounds to me like if you are, if you are, if what community is enough for you as a contractor or you're working from home, right? You don't, you know, it might be a different situation then community is fine, but you may consider doing the $45 a month and upgrade that to a pro subscription. And that will get you like, take care of your Azure DevOps as well so you can have a good, like, yeah, what do you get with Azure DevOps? You get a bunch of stuff. You get like a build system, like pipelines. Yeah, pipelines. Yeah. Boards. Yeah, your boards, your issues, your, you know, feature system, all that sort of stuff. Yeah, all sorts of it. All included. Like all included, all hosted in the cloud for free, right? Yep. Yep. Okay. And then if you do upgrade to the full yearly subscription, then you get access to all of those downloads that we mentioned as well. And so the downloads do differ between which subscription level that you've gone with. So if you're looking for the office suite, I believe that one comes with enterprise, not professional. And on that compare page, you can dive deeper into seeing the downloads as well. We do actually have a full Excel that you can download and you can look for, I want this one version of SQL Server. Does it come with it? And toggle between the versions to see which one actually comes with that. So it's really handy if you're looking for an old piece of software for sure. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, this is one of the things I loved the most about the MSM subscription back then was that I had a one-stop shop to get everything I needed to get up and going on a new laptop, a new workstation, even a server that I had to set up to host my websites or whatever. So that's absolutely wonderful. Is there any issues potentially, maybe from a licensed perspective or I don't know, but if your company doesn't provide you with an MSDNs, or sorry, a Visual Studio subscription. And you, but you're like, hey, I want one because maybe you do some work at home as well. Does, is there any issues there like from a licensed perspective if someone goes out and buys a $45 pro subscription, even though the company doesn't do anything there for them? Not that I can think of. I mean, even if your company has a paid one, you should be able to buy it yourself. I can't see why your company would prevent you from making a purchase like that. But they may not want you to use that for developing IP. If you're working on a work project, they may not want you to be using your own subscription for that. So definitely make sure that you know what their policy is for that. The other thing is if you do by, you know, the full subscription that comes with Azure access, be very careful what you're putting in Azure and using that credit on. You want to make sure you're not storing your company IP somewhere that they don't want it to be. Yeah, that's a good point. And I guess if your company already has a subscription, let's say they have an enterprise subscription, then there's absolutely no reason you would go out and let's say personally buy a pro subscription, right? Because you already have all those benefits from the company and you're free to use those benefits. However you want to do them, right? They're tied to your Microsoft identity, the same account you log into Visual Studio with, or how am I supposed to reason about this? Yeah, so all of the benefits are tied to the account that you've logged in with. You can add an alternate account that you can use for logging into the IDE as well as using your Azure credit for. But it is all tied back to that subscription your company gave you. So if your admin removes your subscription, you will then lose access to your Azure credits and the IDE as well. And I would just caution, make sure that you understand what your company's internal policy is around your subscription because they may have set some of their own policies and I want to make sure that we're not giving you any guidance that will upset your company as well. Right. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. But if you're using the IDE and you're stuck at home right now, the IDE is tied to your license. So as long as it's you that's logging in and using it, you can use that on your home computer if you need to do development there. But in our licensing terms, you can't be sharing that with others in your household if they don't have their own subscription. So it is a one to one user-based licensing. Okay. And so in order for people to take advantage of all this stuff, to see whether or not they already have a subscription if they are in doubt, if they do, or to manage their subscription, get to their subscriber downloads, do everything. It's all on my.visualstudio.com, is that right? Exactly. Okay. So I have sort of a question about like, is there a reason not to have a subscription? And what would that be if there was one? Like, are there any edge cases or caveats that say, okay, for this type of person or developer or organization or something like that, it doesn't make any sense to be a subscriber. For what reason? I'm curious. Yeah, I mean, I'm putting you on the spot here. Trying to think of a good reason. I think it really depends, you know, what kind of developer you are and what it is you're looking to do. If, you know, community or VS Code suits your needs just fine and you don't need a full-fledged VS IDE for it, you may be able to get away with Dev Essentials just fine. It really depends what it is that you're looking to do and what you're looking to develop and what your particular needs are. Okay. So here's what it sounds like to me. I think this has been tremendously helpful because I feel like I now understand a little bit about what does it mean to be a Visual Studio subscriber? What do I get? But it also gives me that sort of ladder. Like, if you are an individual that are not looking to spend any money, you can get benefits by joining the Dev Essentials program. So do that now, right? There's no reason not to go do that. Yeah, definitely take advantage of that program. The only reason is if you already have a Visual Studio subscription, which is sort of, I guess you can say to the Visual Studio subscriptions as like the bigger versions of the Dev Essentials. Dev Essentials doesn't give you anything that the smallest Visual Studio subscription doesn't have. Right. So you can start small, you can start free with VS Community or VS Code plus Dev Essentials. Then you can move up to the pro subscription, which is $45 a month if you do monthly or you can do a yearly and get a little bit extra. And then you can go all the way up to enterprise. And once you go to pro, you also get Visual Studio Pro. And so I guess that means that if you are not, if you're using Visual Studio Code, is there then no reason to do a Visual Studio Pro subscription if you're not intending to use the Visual Studio Pro IDE? Again, it really depends what it is you're looking to do. If you don't intend to use the IDE, maybe it makes sense just to stick with Dev Essentials and code. But don't forget, you also get all those other learning benefits and the Azure credit as well, depending if you've gone for the annual one. So getting that Azure credit and getting all of those training benefits might make sense of extra things that you can leverage to really improve your skills. Yeah, I didn't even think about that because you get $150 of Azure credit. So even if you're on Visual Studio Code only, or you are fine with Visual Studio Community, you don't need to get the pro-skew of Visual Studio. But if you wanna use Azure, for instance, or PluralSci, then those $45 a month, let's say, are the yearly subscription, sorry. The yearly, yes. It's actually a really good deal. So that might be a cheaper way, actually, than to go straight to those sources and sign up for them individually. Just go through Visual Studio, even though you don't even use the Visual Studio Pro Edition. Yeah, and one thing I will note just so we're not accidentally misleading people, it's up to $150. So that's what comes with Enterprise Professional, I believe is a $50 Azure credit. And that's all in the comparison chart. You'll be able to see exactly what the credit is that comes with it. Okay, that's fantastic. One other cool thing I just wanna share really quickly, if you don't mind. Yep. Just gonna share my screen here. So as I mentioned, you know, I've been taking the time to learn what comes with your subscription and what the history was here so we can make it better. So we've done a UX refresh on this front page. We still have a bunch of changes to make, but we've added this feedback button here. And when you click on it, you can actually give us feedback about a very specific targeted page, part of the page, or generic feedback. And we actually are reading through this weekly. So if you do have any feedback that you wanna share, definitely provide that to us so that we are making this better and making it what works best for you. So I just wanted to make sure people knew that's not going to a black hole. Okay. Yeah, good. That's very important to know. We do listen to the feedback. Yeah. Please, if you have any, please share it. We have a question here from Jonas. It's a little bit about Azure. So let's see here. Can I transfer a subscription or sell a subscription as a deal with the project I developed for a client? So not Visual Studio, but Azure related. If it's, so you said not Visual Studio. If it is part of your subscription, it is all tied to your subscription. So you wouldn't be able to sell that. I'm not sure on the Azure side of things what the terms and conditions are of your Azure subscription. It's something we may be able to look into and provide an answer to offline. I don't know if we have a way of doing that for a very specific question like this, Mads. But we'd have to check with the Azure team and see what their terms are. Right, but I think the, I think a little bit of what Jonas is getting to here is, let's say that you're developing a website for a client, like you're an independent contractor. And they're gonna pay for the Azure subscription, right? Because there the client is gonna be hosted at the client's Azure account, let's say. But what if that independent contractor could get them to like, could sell them as part of their, the deal could sell them a Visual Studio subscription. Like, can you take an existing Visual Studio subscription and transfer it to another Microsoft identity, like another account? In this case, the client or could you, or could you like sell it on behalf of, or to someone else? Like, could you sell it, instead of Microsoft selling directly to the client, could the contractor do that instead? Yeah, as of right now, it's all tied to your own identity. And so, if your admin removes it from you and gives it to someone else, if you've left the company, for example, if we go with that scenario, when you transfer that subscription to someone new, it resets, so they don't see what you've done in Azure for security reasons, for example. So it all clears out. I don't know if this is something, maybe it's something we could look into in the future. And I'd have to read through our, a million pages of licensing terms and see if we have anything explicitly against this or a reason to not support this. But it sounds like from the questions more, you wanna make sure what is in Azure is retained and you're able to sell all of that with it, with nothing clearing out. So it's something I'd have to look into. I don't feel confident in giving an answer right now because there's so many complexities to that. Yeah, it sounds like also it has to do with sales and other things that may not be what we're dealing with as program managers. Yeah, a little bit above my pay grade. Yes, yes, right. Okay, so we don't have any more incoming questions unless the live attendees here are willing to ask some questions, which I mean, that's good because that tells me that you have really gotten around the subject and demystified all this for a lot of people. Are there any sort of last, I don't know, tips and tricks or something like related to working from home, which is our new situation, right? Where subscriptions really come in. I mentioned earlier, like I thought that the polls, plural site learning was like a great resource for when working from home. But I wonder if there's other things that are like very well suited for this scenario. Yeah, and I don't want people think plural site is the only learning or training benefit we have available. You can also look at LinkedIn learning, data camp, code magazine. There's all sorts of different goodies there that have different offerings of what you can actually learn. So you can look at those different ones and see what the skill is that you're looking to pick up. But they all do have very thorough catalogs, I guess, of different learning materials you can look at. One other thing is that our benefits are always changing. We're always looking to see what's the new thing that we can offer, making partnerships with other third parties. Mads, as you pointed out, it's not just Microsoft benefits. We have lots of other third party partners in there. And so keep checking back. Come to the My Portal frequently and see, has anything changed? Is there anything new in here? We have made a little new badge, I guess you could call it, that goes on the tile that lets you know if something is new. And we're looking at how we can let you know that sooner. Another thing is we do have a monthly newsletter that goes out that lets you know through email, what's changed, what's new and exciting that you should check out. If you're not opted in to receive that, you can go into your profile just by clicking your name in the top right hand corner and you can click to opt into visual studio subscriptions, marketing newsletters. And it's definitely something you should really check out because there's a lot of really interesting information that comes monthly in that. So how do you subscribe? Is it within Visual Studio you click your name or is it on the website? It's on the website, I can show real quick here. So let me know when you can see my screen. Yep, we are good. So you log into my.visualstudio.com, click on your name in the top corner here and it will pull up your profile and from within here, edit profile. And then you can see what you've opted in to receive here. So you can get Azure DevOps newsletters, Visual Studio IDE specific or Visual Studio subscriptions. Oh, that's wonderful. Yeah, so definitely take advantage of opting into that as well. Yeah, and you wrote a blog post. I did, yes. And you're basically outlining a bunch of benefits and updates to the Visual Studio subscription system or service and we'll make sure to link to that as well in the YouTube description because there's a lot of valuable information and a lot of the links that we talked about are in that blog post. So I think it doesn't, if you've seen this episode, we covered everything that's in that blog post but and plus more I'd say, but it has all the good links. So it's still a very valuable resource I think. And hopefully we'll see more blog posts from you, Katie. Yeah, now that I know I have the blogging power, I'm definitely hoping to take advantage of that going forward. And you can even see a picture of my cat looking extremely evil and wanting me to get back into the office. I think she's sick of seeing me here every day. Yeah, that would be what a cat would do, wouldn't it? Yep, yep. All right, so we don't have any further questions coming in from the attendees. So with that, Katie, thank you so much for joining me here today. This was very, very enlightening, thank you. Thanks for having me, this was really fun. And I hope that all the listeners are able to realize the benefits that come with your subscription and go to the My Portal and take advantage of it and start learning and using all of those benefits that you may already be paying for and not realize that you get, or not paying for because they are included in your subscription, but I think I worded that a little poorly. But utilize those benefits that you get. Absolutely, so my.visualstudio.com for the live attendees, the blog post is over at defblogs.microsoft.com slash Visual Studio, that's the Visual Studio blog. And so it is there on the front page somewhere if you scroll down a little bit. All right, so that was it. Go to my.visualstudio.com for your Azure, sorry for your Visual Studio subscriptions and your Dev Essentials and everything in between. Thank you so much for joining us and I'll see you next week for another episode of the Visual Studio Remote Office Hours. Thank you.