 This 10th year of Daily Tech News show is made possible by you right there, listening to this show right now. Thanks to all of you, including Hector Bones, Tim Ashman and Johnny Hernandez coming up on DTNS. Are there other ways to power cars than gas or electricity? Yes, and Tim Stevens can break them down for us and tell us whether they're any good or not. Plus tech to let you mouth words without speaking and control your devices and your digital twin is coming. Embrace your digital twin. This is the Daily Tech News for Friday, April 7th, 2023 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt. And from Studio Rebel, I'm Sarah Lane. From Upstate New York, I'm Tim Stevens. Drawing the top tech stories from Cleveland, I'm Len Peralta. And I'm the show's producer, Roger J. Oh, it's packed house today on Daily Tech News show. Welcome into the club. Shall we begin with the quick hits? We shall, Tom. Twitter cut off access to its legacy API, disrupting operations for several companies that relied on it for things like embedding tweets, RSS feeder Feedbin, accessibility aids, T-Wease Cake and T-W Blue, and several non-malicious bots all lost access. Substack also having issues. Users report that attempting to paste a link to substack stories in Twitter now shows an error message. Some users also report that on Twitter any links with substack in the name are stopped from being retweeted or even replied to. Although reporters at the Verge didn't see this happening on their account. So it's a little unclear if this is a result of the API shutdown or a separate issue altogether. Oh, I'm not sure what happened, but the Verge has now confirmed that they have seen this. So that last line should have been taken out. That's probably my fault, but there you go. Samsung released its preliminary Q1 earnings projecting profit would fall 95.8% on the year, the lowest since Q1 2009. As a result, the company said it will quote lower its memory production to a meaningful level. It did not, however, announce any change to its planned investment into five new chip fabs in South Korea over the next two decades. Slowing PC demands have caused what was once a chip shortage to become a memory chip oversupply. You're about to get better graphic support in the Chrome browser, meaning better and more capable web apps. Google announced it will enable the WebGPU API by default in the upcoming Chrome 113 release. This API provides more access to a computer's GPU resources with Google claiming a more than three times improvement in machine learning model interfaces. At launch, WebGPU will be available on Windows PCs that support Direct3D12, macOS and Chrome OS with plans to eventually expand to Linux and Android. Yes, someday the browser will be all you need. That's what they keep telling me since Netscape Constellation in 1997. Nest and Google didn't tightly integrate their devices until 2018, but Google has continued to support the old drop cans and Nest security systems that came out before that partnership came together. Well, you know what's coming next if I'm bringing it up in the quick hits. Yeah, drop cam cameras will stop working on April 8, 2024. Nest Aware subscribers can get a free indoor Nest Cam to replace the old version, or if you're not subscribing, you could still get a 50% off coupon. Google is also ending the old and frankly fairly outdated works with Nest connections on September 29. There are better options for you to switch there anyway. The Nest app, however, will continue to work for your Nest Protect smoke alarms for the time being. Amazon prohibited the sale of the portable pen testing tool FlipperZero, tagging it as a restricted product, and citing its potential use for card skimming. The device is used by penetration testers who help companies improve security. It can debug various hardware devices over RFID, radio, NFC, infrared, Bluetooth, and other protocols. Amazon isn't the only one targeting the device, however. The Brazilian National Telecommunications Agency started seizing shipments of the FlipperZero over alleged criminal use back in March, but you can still buy it directly from the maker, and even for less than Amazon resellers were charging it. Yeah, he probably should have been doing that anyway, so maybe it's a good thing. Alright folks, Engadget reports that a Cornell PhD student, Redong Zhang, developed a pair of sonar glasses that use a system they're calling Echo Speech to send and receive sound waves across your face to let you read words silently mouthed by yourself. So you don't speak, you just mouth the words, the sonar, like detecting a submarine, detects the movements of your mouth. It's sonar for your body. Sarah, let's talk about how it works. Okay, so two small speakers are placed under one lens and then two small microphones under the other lens. Inaudible sound waves go from the speaker, reflect off the speaker's face, and then arrive to the microphone. The delay caused as they bounce off parts of your face creates data that then can be used to model your mouth movements. That data is then sent to a phone to process further. So you don't need to look at a camera like you would with other types of silent speech recognition. The glasses require a few minutes of training though from whoever's using them, and can reach what they say is about 95% accuracy. So you might say, sounds cool, what do I do with it though? You could pause or skip music tracks, you could dictate a message in a loud place like a concert, or maybe you're on an airplane runway. Yeah, you're working, if you're working for the airport. Exactly, you just happen to be out on the runway. Please don't do that, yeah. You can enter passwords silently by voice. You can synthesize speech for people who can't vocalize sound, I think that's a big one here. Cornell's smart computer interfaces for future interactions, or the sci-fi lab is looking at commercializing this tech as well. So Tim, we must know, do you want to silently word mouth words to control the next cool car that you get to test drive? Yeah, I think it could definitely help. I don't find voice interfaces to be very effective in cars right now, and one of the reasons is because cars do tend to be a pretty noisy environment, certainly with a lot of NVH going on in there, especially in non-EVs, engine noise, wind noise, that kind of thing. And you might have noticed over the years as cars have been more dependent on voice interactions, the microphone's been getting closer and closer to your face now, it's kind of embedded usually right above your head. This would get rid of that, you wouldn't have to pause the music anymore when you're trying to talk to your car, you could just talk to your car without having to actually talk, and it could make that interaction a lot more accurate, quicker, and less annoying to your passengers for sure. So I think it could definitely be a big step forward. Oh, for the longest time I have wanted this to work. I know it's been in development in lots of ways, but like Sarah said, it always had a camera. This, if you look at the video from the Cornell research folks, is just a pair of glasses. Now, they're a little bit bulky in the prototype, but even considering this as a prototype, they're not particularly egregious. They're not really getting in the way, and I'm sure there is a way to style these, so you wouldn't even know they're there. And then if it works as well as they're saying, 95% accuracy, I know most of the experiments were limited to certain commands or maybe a little more expanded vocabulary, but that's the kind of thing that you can train up pretty fast these days. Yeah, I forget augmented reality glasses or build this into augmented reality glasses. This I absolutely want. I want to be able to do voice interactions when I'm out and about without people overhearing what I'm saying to my phone. I think that's the thing, Tom. I think everyone's going to be wearing glasses now, whether or not they need glasses, because you'll have AR built in, you'll have stuff like this built in, and who knows what other kinds of biometric authentication you could build in as well. And there's a lot of reasons why I think this could be a really sweet way to build it on your face. I mean, the only silly thing I could think of that's, I don't know, akin to card counting in Vegas or something is someone being really good at reading lips and going, oh, I see what password you just used, or I know who you're talking to and you're saying crazy things. That's a good point. Those are edge cases, of course. I mean, this is much more, I feel like, an accessibility thing than anything else. Yeah, you're going to have to do like, you're going to always have to have a catcher's mitt with you and then hold it over your face while you mouth your passwords. Yeah, we've already solved that part of it. We're good. Baseball fixed this a long time ago. So in our glasses, baseball mitt, you are good. Yeah, I mean, 10 hour battery life on this thing right now. I don't mind that it offloads the processing to the phone for two reasons. One, it's on device. They're not sending this to a cloud. They can do it on an existing phone. And if I'm looking at this demo right, it's wireless. You're not running a wire to the phone. So given the fact that the majority of us who would be wanting this kind of thing anyway are able to have a phone with us most of the time, I think this is, I think this has got a lot of promise of the things that like are in a lab at an academic institution that I've seen. This is one I feel more positive about. Also, this is a dumb question, but I bet somebody else has the same question. Well, yeah, the only ones you don't ask. But if you do vocalize, let's say I'm, let's say I do work at an airport. I'm on the runway. No one can hear me. Right. And I'm, you know, I'm mouthing something that might be garbled, you know, just audio wise. I don't have to be silent. The audio just gets thrown away. Yeah, right. Yeah, I guess you wouldn't because it's the mouth movements that the sonar is looking at. It doesn't care whether you're making noise or not. Yeah, point. Yeah. Yes, but you might lose your voice if you try to shadow above the airplane. Yeah. Well, you know, have caution. That's always the motto here. All right. The next web has an article called digital twins could save your life. Here's how you might say, what's a digital twin? Well, they're virtual versions of real world objects often used in industry, like a model of a power station or maybe an aircraft engine. A new book talks about the emerging efforts to make digital twins of people modeling all of their internal workings like you would with an airplane, but it's the person. Professor of chemistry and computer science at University College London, Peter Conveny and science director at London's Science Museum at Roger Highfield co-wrote a book called virtual you about just this process. They presented ideas from the book at the London Science Museum in conjunction with some other experts in the field. So you might say digital version of myself. What would be a good example of that, Tom? Yeah. Next, we've wrote up a lot of good examples here. The Barcelona Supercomputing Center or BSC is using their supercomputer Marinostrum to create something called Alia Red, A-L-Y-A-R-E-D, a digital twin of a human heart with a hundred million virtual cells. That's why you need a supercomputer because you're simulating a hundred million individual cells. BSC is working with Medtronic to use Alia Red to do things like help position pacemakers or measure the charge delivered to a heart. CompBiomed is working with Germany's SupermucNG to model blood flow in the complete circulatory system of an actual 26-year-old woman named Yun Sun. They've been able to chart variations in blood pressure and simulate the movement of clots. There's more. Some models have been approved for what are called in-silico trials. So instead of in vivo, it's in silicon. They're virtualized testing a drug or a treatment or virtual patients instead of using animals or humans. The US FDA, for example, calls this model-informed drug development or M-I-D-D. I'm not done yet. One more here. University of Oxford Professor of Computational Medicine Blanca Rodriguez used a digital twin heart to test the effects of 66 different drugs and predict the risk of abnormal heart rhythms with 89% accuracy. That is better than research done on animals, which is around 75% accurate. So not only does it affect the animals, but it's more accurate. So can we make me as a digital twin? Well, here's how we would do it, Tom. Potentially, digital twins of individuals could be created from an MRI scan, maybe a wearable device that's giving enough data to provide a digital twin, genomic and biochemical analysis as well. A doctor could then use that twin to simulate responses to certain drugs or even certain surgeries. Then that twin could also be used to make preventative recommendations for diet and lifestyle. Yeah, just to fill your twin with a bunch of coffee and cigarettes and see what happens. Let's see what takes the twin down, and then you know a little bit more about how to live your life. Yeah, exactly. Though, an actual digital twin has not yet been created. To do that, you would need exascale computing, of which there aren't very many exascale computers, and they're in use for a lot of other things, like climate modeling and aerospace and stuff. They're energy intensive, they're expensive to run, because you need to sync a lot of different models up to virtualize a human. And it'll be a long time before we have the computer power to analyze people on the molecular level. So until we get there, if and when that ever even happens, a digital twin of a human would have to be achieved by combining different simulations. So some for cells, like they're doing in the heart, but you can't do that for every cell, so you're going to do some whole organs and then you integrate them together. You might leave some gaps of things that don't generally affect stuff as much, so you're fudging it a little. But to help speed things up and plug those gaps, you can use machine learning to kind of bridge things that are always going to be true, like cancelling out in math. That would leave you with a still useful, if incomplete version that a lot of folks think could be conceivable within five years. I don't know, Tim. Tim, you ready for a twin? Yes, I'm ready for a twin, but even if they're not able to replicate us individually, just being able to create models of, example humans would definitely go a long way for things like you're testing before Tom, testing medicine, that kind of thing, and even could do a big part of reducing, again, something you mentioned, which is animal testing. Animal testing is something that the best of us don't want to think about too much, and so to be able to get rid of that would be a wonderful thing, but also it would make medicine a lot more repeatable. Certainly there's a lot of error prone procedures there. If you can iterate on a given test a thousand times in a day versus having to wait months for test results, that would mean developing new drugs, new vaccines and all sorts of things much, much more quickly and theoretically being able to plug that into an automated system that could then make automated decisions and maybe have an AI testing a million different drugs a week and that could do some wonderful things as well. So I think there's a lot of potential, even if they can't replicate us individually and make individual guidance on our own dietary intake, that kind of thing, which I'm sure is coming, just being able to test medicines alone would be a major, major step forward. Yeah, that's already happening. That's good, right? The educational sector, I feel like, it's a big market here. Imagine a bunch of folks in medical school trying to say, okay, this individual has some pretty specific health issues. Let's all... Let's model those. Yeah, let's use this twin. Let's see what happens. Everybody gets a chance to care of, go for it. It's like you're not in a room with a cadaver or anything like that. This is all much more preventative. You could practice on the digital twin of an actual person, right? Yeah. And then see what the actual treatment of the person does compared to what you did in testing, which I think is incredibly interesting use for this. It's almost kind of black mirror-like, which is the ability to kind of look in the future of, what if we feed them 300 grams of fat every day for the next 20 years? What is that going to do to their cardiovascular system? You can realistically do that. You could look at the plaque in there and they're hard afterward. That's a big preventative case, right? Okay, if you keep eating, you want to keep eating the way you're at? Let me show you what your blood vessels are going to look like in 10 years. We briefly mentioned ethical considerations because we assume you all are already objecting to this on ethical grounds and privacy grounds. Yes, medical data privacy is pretty good, but it would have to be very good in this kind of situation because you're going to be replicating so much about an individual and in the wrong hands, that could be absolutely misused. So there's a lot of work to be done in that part of it too. We should acknowledge that. Yeah, it's hard to imagine this not being used or wanting to be used by insurance companies to be able to then say, oh, there's no way we're going to pick this person up. Much like we're already seeing some aspects of that from DNA testing kits where that's then, if there are any indicators that you're susceptible to giving diseases, there's already discussions about ways to protect your identity from a DNA test. So that doesn't happen to you. This is going to just make that or the magnitude worse potentially. So yeah, I hope that that kind of policy, that kind of protection comes before the technology, but as we've seen in the past, usually the technology comes first, and then we're going to let scramble and try to figure out how to protect ourselves. Yeah, no, that's why it's important to note it at this point. We don't want digital twins to become the ultimate actuarial table. Folks, if you need a little pick-me-up after that comment, how about my new show Top 5 at Daily Tech News Show's YouTube channel, youtube.com slash Daily Tech News Show. You could not only watch this show there, there's a new podcast tab YouTube just launched and Joe and Roger and Amos were on it and we're in there, but also there's the Top 5 show. This week I'm breaking down the Top 5 K dramas you can stream online. If you're into Korean dramas or maybe you're curious about Korean dramas, see what I picked. Go to youtube.com slash Daily Tech News Show right now, right now. Electric vehicles and EV batteries get a lot of attention, rightly so. When it comes to talking about environmentally sustainable transportation infrastructure, but they are not the only game in town. Tim has been researching alternative fuels and wrote up great articles for Rodentrack and Inverse about some of the things he's found. I'm curious to know Tim, what's out there and what state it is in? Let's start with hydrogen. How far along is hydrogen infrastructure? Hydrogen is in a really interesting place. The technology for actually moving a car around, powered by hydrogen, has been around for decades now. That's pretty well baked at this point. It's really the infrastructure side of things that is missing. In the U.S. there are, I believe, fewer than 30 hydrogen filling stations in the U.S. and they're all in California, which means that you've got a hydrogen-powered car, of which there are quite a few in the U.S. You're not going to be really road-tripping too far which is a shame, because that's one of the beautiful things about a hydrogen-powered car. But in Europe and in Asia, things are actually picking up quite a bit. Japan has made some pretty substantial investments in hydrogen making it available to consumers and actually building basically the beginnings of a hydrogen pipeline from Australia. Australia has a lot of sun, a lot of renewable resources, which are increasingly able to be efficiently converted into hydrogen. Basically, you can convert wind power or solar power into hydrogen relatively easily. And then they're working on ways to put that on to freighters, tankers, and ship that up to Japan where it could be powering cars. So that's an exciting thing. And then in Europe, they're making major investments there as well. There's a lot of investments going around 2025, which I hate to inform everyone is just two years away. 2025, they're expecting to have a 10x increase in hydrogen production and they want to have filling stations every few kilometers available within the entirety of Europe, which is pretty amazing. So that infrastructure is coming pretty quickly in the U.S. lagging behind, but New York and New Jersey and a few other states on the East Coast are creating a hydrogen pipeline basically or a hydrogen system where they'll be able to have, again, much more availability of hydrogen along the East Coast, certainly along the I-95 corridor. That's probably another five or so years away. But again, they're showing some momentum finally after decades of nothing. Yeah, that interesting infrastructure there. We looked into a hydrogen car and we have places near us that we could fill because we're in Los Angeles, California. But it just didn't seem promising. So this is interesting to note that there's more going on with this infrastructure than I think a lot of people would have thought. Yeah, absolutely. So a hydrogen, of course, is powering fuel cell-powered cars. So if you're not familiar with those, basically, it is an electric car. It has a battery pack on board. It's still emissions-free. It's still an electric car. Instead of plugging it in the wall and pulling electrons out, that way you pull the electrons out of hydrogen effectively. And so that means you can refuel very quickly. It takes about five minutes to fill up a tank. Range on these cars is typically on the order of two or three hundred miles. Again, similar to what you get in a gasoline-powered car. And they're still smooth and silent and everything else that we love about our EVs. So they're a really great solution. It's really just, where can I plug the things in? That's the big missing piece. Yeah, so if somebody says, all right, hydrogen fuel cell, these are terms I've heard before. What about synthetic fuels? So synthetic fuels is another interesting development that's really just starting to come out of the conceptual phase and into reality now. Porsche made a big investment in a plant in Chile, which I got to go down and sample. I actually got to see the fuels, and to drive on the fuels down there. But the idea here is basically, again, you create hydrogen from wind power through the process of electrolysis. But then what you can do is there's an additional step that was developed by Exxon Mobil, actually believe it or not, back in the 70s or 80s, where you can inject carbon into that hydrogen and turn it into actual gasoline. You can make diesel out of it. You can make jet fuel out of it. You can pretty much make whatever you want to. So the plan for this plant is to be able to capture carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, capture the wind power from a giant wind turbine that's spinning on that plant, and put it all together to turn it into actual shelf-stable gasoline that is chemically identical to the stuff that you get out of the pump. And you can burn it in your car. And because all that stuff came out of the atmosphere in the first place, it's all completely emission is neutral. And that's really just conceptual now, but they're working on building that out. And they'll be producing billions of gallons of this stuff per year in the very near future. Is there something that seems to be great on paper? Like, oh, yes, I'm a meeting carbon, but a carbon was used to make my gasoline. How practical is this? It is not very practical, because it's going to be extremely expensive. This factory took about, I think, $75 million to build, and it's going to be producing something on the order of 17 million gallons of fuel per year. If you do the math on that, it's going to take a long time to start to commoditize that price. But what they're hoping to do is expand that into other places in the U.S., get the distribution scaled up, and get that cost down. It's probably never going to be as cheap as gasoline, because you basically just pump that out of pump oil out of the ground, throw it through a refiner, and you're good to go. It's going to be more expensive, but with some state incentives, federal incentives, it could get to the point where it is not that much more expensive. And given it's exactly identical to gasoline, you could just mix it into normal gasoline and effectively reduce the emissions of the fossil fuels as before without having to build up a whole new infrastructure. That's interesting. Is anybody using that? So Portia has been the main investor of this so far. They're going to be using it at their experience centers, which in the U.S. there's one in Atlanta and one in LA. So if you go to those things and you do a driving program there, you'll actually get to burn the things. But future distribution, that is TBD. Well, while we're thinking about the next hydrogen vehicle that we might want to buy, we might also like free money. Yeah, we'll need to save up for that hydrogen car, right? Yeah, exactly. And I've got a way for you to get free money, maybe if you spend it fast or have already. So Google Pay's reward program gave a bunch of customers cash in their accounts anywhere from $10 to $1,000. But it was not on purpose. Android researcher Michelle Raman explained on Twitter that normally Google Pay users, some of them anyway, get some of the few dollars back depending on where you shop for various promotions, right? A little $3 back for shopping at a certain gas station, et cetera. Multiple screenshots show users receiving reward money for what the message called dog-fooding the Google Pay remittance experience. For anybody unfamiliar, dog-fooding is a way to describe internally beta testing pre-release software. Seems that this was mistakenly sent by Google to members of the public, just not internal testers alone. Some users received multiple copies of this message with multiple payouts. But it wasn't exactly a monopoly bank error in their favor. The Google Pay team quickly sent out an update that read, you received this email because an unintended cash credit was deposited to your Google Pay account. The issue has since been resolved and where possible, the credit has been reversed. Yeah. Our technical says Google isn't going after you though if you already spent it. Like if they can't get the money back, they're going to let you have it. Well, because it's, you know, this is, the person who received the, you know, let's say a thousand dollars probably knew, I wasn't supposed to get this, but it was sent to me and if the money goes away, it wasn't higher. That's usually not the case though. Legally, they can still get it. Like if you didn't know you were supposed to get it and you spend it, they can still try to get it back from you. I think Google's just like, that's not worth our time to go through all of that. Probably not. You know, just lick your wounds, Google. And learn from it. Learn from your mistakes. We're just disappointed in you, Google. Yeah, we're not mad. Mostly because he didn't send me any of the money. We're not mad. We just expected more. Yeah, more money. Learning about this too late myself. Yeah, I expected some money. Didn't give a thing. All right, let's check out the mail bag. Let's do it. James in Columbus, Ohio writes, I will submit my contrary opinion to the one expressed through email during your most recent show. James is talking about our show yesterday with Justin Marbury Young. James says, I fully support advertising companies continuing to pay the bill for many of the services I enjoy. I understand they do this in the hope that I'll buy their product or service. I, however, feel no obligation to do so. I agree with Tom that ads can be useful because they inform me about a product or a service that I might find useful. I also acknowledge that I can find ads annoying and they're repetitive. They can also be frustrating interruption. I'm unwilling to pay the cost that would be involved with eliminating advertising and I also suspect that I would miss out on finding out about some things that are useful, beneficial or enjoyable in my life. I would, however, like to warn that balance needs to be maintained. When a product or service is overwhelmed by ads and the content shrinks to a point that it becomes less appealing or useful, I consider walking away. James says, FYI, I am in no way affiliated with any advertising service. I appreciate this, James, because it's closer to the way I think, of course, and we all appreciate things that are close to the way we think. I would like to acknowledge more than one person who emailed in taking issue with what I said yesterday and I will backpedal on that a little. I said everybody likes ads or something that I expect. I was overstating it. What I was trying to say was that you only dislike the ads that don't work well. There's almost always an example of something where you're like, oh, no, but I like movie trailers or, you know, I like hearing about new products, et cetera, et cetera. So I do think that there's, what I was trying to say yesterday is we only dislike the ads that don't work well because usually there's an example of something we like. But we all dislike the ads because there are always ads that don't work well and those are the ones that are annoying. We also got a great email from Mohan when it comes to logging off. We talked about logging off and how the log off options are buried or sometimes not existent. Mohan said, do I log out of websites? Short answer, no. Long answer, yes. I don't physically go log out of websites on my computers but I do have an extension cookie auto delete that automatically deletes my cookies after 24 hours. In turn, I am forced to log on to websites the next time I use said computer. Mobile phone is different as I hardly use any apps and the ones I do are logged in all the time as they are used via an app not through the browser. Cookie auto delete, if you want to make sure you get logged out that's an interesting way to handle it. Yeah, that's a great way to automate things. Yeah, I like that. All right, what has Len Peralta drawn for us today? Is it free money? Is it digital twins? Is it alternative fuels? Len, what did you draw? Well, you know, I asked something in the chat room is what is the difference between a digital twin and a clone? I'm sure there is very obvious thing that there is that would separate the two. But you know what, that's the kind of thing, right? There's going to be a lot of questions about, hey, what about my digital twin? What about clones? How does this all fit into it? And I think this is a good brochure cover which is your digital twin and you. I think they would be handing this out in places where digital twins would be available or not even available when you get your digital twin just, you know, a pamphlet that sort of explains everything that you need to know and how to care and feed for your digital twins, things like that. I love this. Can my digital twin feel the same things I feel? That's exactly it. Are we born on the same day? I don't know. Questions like that that I think are going to come up. This image, if you're interested in it is available right now on my Patreon, patreon.com forward slash Len. Just become a member and you get it for free. Or if you want to go the old fashioned route, head on over to my online store, where I am currently taking commissions. So think about that, pick up a print for yourself and maybe something for somebody else as well as a gift coming up. So there you go. Sounds good. Len Peralta, thank you for the work today. Also thank you, Tim Stevens, for being with us and sharing some knowledge about the future of cars and everything else. Where can people keep up with all of your work? Thank you, sir. Yeah, I think at this point, the best place is on my Substack, Tim Stevens at Substack.com. Even though you can't share it on Twitter right now, you can definitely check out what I'm up to there. I try to keep some links in there of what I'm writing, where it's published and what I'm up to. Indeed. Well, we have got two new bosses that we want to thank today, Archad and Jamie. Archad and Jamie just started backing us on Patreon. Thank you, Archad. And thank you, Jamie. Yeah. Keep it going, Archad and Jamie. And all the other patrons, welcome them. Make them feel welcome here. Archad and Jamie, you're welcome to now stick around for the extended show Good Day Internet, which you can get in your Patreon feed. Tim Stevens, you just mentioned a Substack. 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