 This weekend is here and the rest is near. It's a Friday. It's plus sports and plus TV Africa welcome on the show and of course we're anticipating the much awaited UFW Champions League finals. Of course that's between Liverpool and Real Madrid. I've got two friends and colleagues from London. We are both from London via Zoom. One is a staunch Liverpool fan, Desi oshu de glava. The other one is a staunch Real Madrid Fran. Halama Dread. His name is Ladi Ed Bediire. Guys, welcome on the show. I'll start with you, Ladi. Real Madrid are believed to be a champions league team. When it gets to this level, they always go all the way. What's your take on this one? I think it has to do with the mindsets, with the personality of the players of the team itself, its legendary status, and the fact that the guys don't just give up, even when the chiefs are down, we still see them believing in themselves, believing that they can get the job done. And the last time Real Madrid, don't forget, got to the final and lost, was against this same team that they are going up against on the 28th of May, that's Liverpool, and that was way back in 1980, 1981 season, but I don't see that happening again, even though Liverpool or me, they are the favorite, so when this championship, because they have a very practicing, they have a lot of impactful players in that mix, they have Moussala, there's Muzdias, there's Cavill Mani, Pemino, and then Mujota, but then, like I told some couple of friends before the game against Manchester City, don't you ever write Madrid off man, if you do that, you do that at your own peril. Daily let me come to you on this one. The biggest assassins in the attack in Europe as we speak, Liverpool have those guys, Sergio Mane, Firmino, and Moussala. Kandek, take it up against Real Madrid. Wali, like I said earlier, I'm glad to be on the team once again, and I'm glad to have Ladi on the opposing side. I stand to be corrected, many comes to you for champions, Real Madrid is a household name. The UEFA champion is like that birthright, but you can't take away the pedigree of Liverpool as well. You talked about the strike force of Liverpool, he was beyond the strike force of Liverpool, it's the whole team. The pressing game has really helped Liverpool over the years, and club has given Liverpool an identity. You mentioned Firmino, Jota, Sala, Mane, you forgot to insert in those Ds that Ladi mentioned earlier. Ds Mane is the most impactful footballer in the amateur league between January and now, you can't take away from it. The semi-final clash which Liverpool won was thanks to those Ds impact. For prosperity's sake, for the beauty of football, Liverpool and Madrid is the best finals we could ask for. It can go either way, but as a Liverpool supporter, definitely I want Liverpool to win. And don't forget, most of these players have the revenge mission in their head. Musala is saying what happened in 2018, he has to avenge that they won't go unpunished. Then God said Joramos isn't there anymore, so maybe we will stand to a very good chance against Madrid right now. I think Madrid is a little bit depleted, but like Ladiu said, right off Madrid, write them off at your own career. Ladiu, let's look at it from this perspective. Now, people have started to call Karlo Ancelotti, Karlo Christ Ancelotti. He can bring you back from the dead, and he has brought Karim Benzema back from the dead. Karim Benzema was, has never been dead before, while he does a point of correction to that. Karim has never been dead. Karim has just been the player who likes to make his teammates look good. During the era of Cristiano Ronaldo, Gary Bewen was still very much active. Karim was playing for the team, he was interplay, the way he links up with the rest of the guys, and was just making the rest of the players look good. Now, after Ronaldo left, he realized that he has to step up his game, he has to become the leader, and he has totally become that. And even before he came to Real Madrid when he was still Olympique Leon, he was playing amazing football, he was calling beautiful goals. So, for the fact that he allowed Ronaldo to try, and he was playing second fidu to Ronaldo. Doesn't mean he was dead, he has never been dead. So, for me, if there is any player that will say that, ok probably Angelotti has fine tuned his game to a certain extent, that should be Vinicius Julio. Don't forget, when Zidane was in charge, Vinicius was not as clinical as he is right now. But after the coming of Angelotti, he made Vinicius understand that, look when you get it to the 18 year box, 2-3 touches, then decide when to put the ball. You don't really dial on the ball for too long, 5-36 touches in the box, no way, which means you've really lost concentration. 2-3 touches, then you don't. And he saw that in the play of Vinicius, he saw that fantastic ball he scored against Manchester City, nobody saw that coming. You know, 5-6 touches into the 18 year box, and he made up his manifold before he got to Eldersen. So, for me, if there's anybody that Angelotti has been reviving his game, that should be Vinicius Julio, and probably Kama Vinga, that's one impactful young guy, since he came from Rens, he has been doing very well for Real Madrid. Now, Dele, there's something I have a problem with, and I think that's what Lado is holding on to in his pocket somewhere. That's what every Real Madrid fan is holding on to. We watched all the games in the Champions League. Nobody has an answer. So Vinicius Junior and Benzema, you can't find an answer to them. Can Virgil van Dijk hold on to Benzema in that finals? They say every day for the thieves, one day for the owner. These guys can have an off day on that day. Football can go either way. It's 11 against 11. And they have a Vinicius Junior. We have a Muhamed Salah. They have a Karen Benzema. We have a Seido Mani. You know, player for player, like for like. Well, you can't take away Benzema's pedigree, just like Lado rightfully said earlier. Karen Benzema has evolved over the years. Karen Benzema was never dead. He takes a man to own up and say that his second player is better than him. That's what he said about Cristiano Ronaldo when he said Cristiano Ronaldo overshadowed him. He said, no, Cristiano Ronaldo didn't overshadow me. Cristiano Ronaldo is a better player. He's the best player in the world. So hey, it is what it is. Well, like I said, like for like. I think the book can actually match round Madrid. And I'll keep my fingers crossed. I'm not bragging today. But I hope we win so that I can pick up a phone and call Lado until Lado. I told you. Wale, I don't know why you are playing this on the down low. Because if you look at the bookmaker side, what's it called predictions up till this moment, Liverpool are the most favored side to win that championship. Nobody gave real Madrid a chance against PSG, against Chelsea, against Man City. Now, Liverpool. And if you look at the form of Liverpool in the league, they've been doing very well. I think the one of 42 matches on beating right now and that's the fantastic record for them. So they are playing fantastic football and use the years like you rightly said. It's very important as he came in for January. And hope for get you guys to laugh. You still have Owingi. That is another guy that makes so much difference coming in from the bench. So that Liverpool side, for me, yeah, who's in the love of fantastic players. They got so much confidence going for them and their pressing game is just amazing. But against the real Madrid side, for me, I would say some of the players right now, they are playing twilight football, talking about a player like Tony Cruz. Luka Madrid, even though he's still churning out all those great passes, but his game has gone down a bit compared with some of the youngsters you guys have in the middle of the park. But experience will always come into play and the self-belief and the personality of each team will also come to that. I like the fact that both of you have been modest today. Both of you are staying on the fence. But let's leave the players alone. Let's leave the match alone. Let's go to the coaches. Delia, no, let me come to Ladi. Ladi, Joggen Klopp is a dear man's shaft. He's a German machine and he's strict with his game. What do you think he will have opposing to Carlo Ancelotti on that day, on the 28th? Well, we know that Joggen Klopp is one guy that is always animated on the sideline where Ancelotti is always very cool and calm. Even when this thing is leading by a fob goose to kneel, he's still calm. But Joggen Klopp is always animated on the sideline. He's always jetty-plating, making love a scene and the rest. But you see, it's not about the well-known style of Joggen Klopp. He likes to press high up the field. That's the way the team are wired and that's what they play. But I still feel that there will be some bits of space in the back where Ancelotti will tell his best fake advantage of. And if you have a player and they kind of pace up initials, don't forget Rodrigo. That young man, nobody gave him a chance but he's been strutting important goals for Real Madrid. So for me, that's another player that can also make a big mark on that game. And like I said earlier, Ancelotti always pull and come. He can't read his emotions. He's always called like an Italian mafia that he is. But I still feel that depending on who is in the favor of Real Madrid, I'm sticking out my neck this time. Now, Deli Lado has answered both questions for me already. But let me ask you a question. Now Klopp is a demon shaft. He's a German machine. He plays, like Lado said, he plays upfront. Bokalo Ancelotti is an Italian. He's like the mafia. He's calling. He'll come at you. He'll come behind you. He'll come from backyard. He'll come from front yard. He'll come at you anyhow he comes. He wants to win. How he wins, he doesn't care. Wale, for me, a coach who doesn't have or plan B, plan C, plan D shouldn't be called a coach. Let me make reference to a certain part, Guardiola. Guardiola had just one plan in his semifinals. He didn't work out. Over the years, Guardiola has lost at a certain stage because of game management. When it comes to game management, we'll mention people like Jogun Klopp, people like Kala Ancelotti didn't know what to do when the time arises. Let's go back to the semifinal match, local semifinal match. Half time, Nupu was down 2 nil. I don't know. It was 2 nil initially in favor of Villarelle and then Liverpool came back. And it takes a whole lot for a coach to make a sacrifice. It takes a whole lot for you to take risks. It takes a whole lot for you to read the game and actually apply to where you want it to be applied. Jogun Klopp studies. He goes beyond saying, okay, this is a better player than this player. No. Everybody thought Henderson was going to stop the game against Villarelle, but no, he didn't start. He started a set in Keita. And then Keita, for me, if I had my way, had taken Keita off at halftime, but I guess the coach saw something that we didn't see and it worked for him at the end of the day. So game management is going to come into play if you ask me on that day. Whoever manages the game better will carry today. I'm going to set on the fence once again. Like I said, it can go either way. Now the rightfully said that Liverpool might be the favorites for this tournament. But hey, you can't take away the pedigree of Ramadude. They know what to do at the 13th minutes. They know what to do at the 63rd minutes. No bookmaker would have predicted that Ramadude will come back from the dead against Man City. In case you don't know, in case viewers don't know, spectators left the stadium as at the 80th minutes and when they realized that you had gotten into extra time they wanted to come back to the stadium. No, no, no, no, they didn't let them back in. That's game management and luck was also on their side. So luck comes into play, personal comes into play, risk comes into play, a whole lot will come into play on that day. But like I said, it's a revenge mission for Liverpool. So for people like me, I'm just looking forward to the 98th minute to hear that Liverpool has won. That's it. Deji, Deji, I must not decide who will you again concerning what you said about luck. You see, luck can only come into play when you are putting a certain amount of hard work. Yes. You must put in a certain amount of hard work. You must believe in what you are doing before luck comes into play. Now, if you look at the intensity of that game towards the end, as soon as what is it called Antjelot you realize that he was losing the game in the middle of the pack. He pulled out on the cruise. He pulled out Mukamote. He pulled out Kasimemi. He dropped in the youngsters and decided to combine Man City's box from that very moment when even though they had no shot at goal until the 89th minute there was no shot at goal from Ramadi, but as soon as the Platinum of those youngsters Rodrigo and the rest of them, you saw that the intensity changed. That's the game management, brother. Yeah, yeah, no doubt. No doubt. But when you said luck, it's all about luck might come into play but luck is just probably 10 or 15 cents of what we're talking about here. It's more about hard work and the kind of pressure you put into it. That's what really works for you. Lado, please don't take me out of context. When I said luck, I said luck is part of football. You know what, let's talk algae. Let's talk algae. Because a lot of people they don't want to talk about when they did it, a lot of people talk about Ramadi being lucky against PLG, being lucky against Man City even in Chelsea. Now they were lucky against Man City again. Hey, when is that luck going to stop? You guys must understand that it's all about hard work. It's all about hard work. It's all about step-belief. It's all about hard work and self-belief. Okay, guys, before I let you guys go and break you guys off, of course, let me put you guys on the burner. Ladi, let me start with you. Quickly, before I let you go, would you predict the scoreline at the end of the day? Well, that might be difficult to do for me while you're vast. I feel that we're going to see goals in that game. Both things you come out finding on the way to score goals. Don't forget, Musala is thankful, right, that once you come back and get his pando flesh back. But like I told somebody yesterday, his pando flesh is going to get from Wazikosa. It's almost, it's already been pierced in Wachibain in Paris already. So I don't, for me, revenge is after the game. It's all about pulling the ones to win it on the night. But I'm going to see a lot of goals. The number of goals I'm going to see, I can't say. So I'm going to stick out my neck about the number of goals I hope to score. Okay, Dele, before I let you go too, would let me put you on the burner. Who would you give, what would be a scoreline at the end of the day for you? 3-1 in favor of the local. 3-1 in favor of the local. 3-1 in favor of the local. Oh, okay. La Diekbedure, staunch Real Madrid fan and Dele Oshini Glover, staunch Liverpool fan. Thank you all very much for joining me on the show today, all the way from London. Thank you very much. Now I had La Diekbedure and Dele Oshini Glover, but of course, Dele spoke about Mo Salah being optimistic about the game against Real Madrid. Let's listen to him and we'll come back. Stay with us. Possible. Sanchez Stadium.