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Oh, I better record that would be bad Ceci est le jour quotidien monde de la technologie aujourd'hui a Patrick Tuesday Si vous voudriez soutenir titan s allé à patreon.com slash is detect. I was born ready This is the Daily Tech news for Tuesday, September 22nd 2015 I'm Tom Merritt joining me as he does Tuesdays mr. Patrick Beja DTN as contributor Independent podcaster extraordinaire Patrick you seem to get quite a bit of enjoyment out of our Patriot announcement this morning, you know, I'm really getting into the the French the French thing and also Every time he says I was born ready. I feel like yelling out. Yeah, I was Yes, that's me That's what I was Also joining us today. Dr. Kiki a host of this week in science and a neuroscientist Because SP Sheridan Suggested a story about neuroscience and then when I suggested it to dr. Kiki. She's like I was gonna suggest that So we're all like one big hive mind today dr. Kiki. That's right We're bringing together the connectivity of the internet to the connectivity of the brain and the nerves and yeah, hi Great, how are you? It's like we're a neural network So now I'm getting scared a little bit. I've been watching a lot of I'm watching a lot of voyager. So I can throw terms around. I don't know what they mean Uh, dr. Kiki is going to explain it to us in a little bit though, but first Let us start with the headlines Microsoft office 2016 for windows launched Tuesday office 2016 features real-time collaboration improved skype integration updated apps office 2016 ships in 40 languages All you got to have is windows 7 you're on xp. You got other issues Windows 7 and up and can use office 2016 if you're an office 365 subscriber Just go get it part of your subscription If you want a standalone version it cost you $149 for windows and mac with a $229 business option that throws in outlook standalone versions will still get the security updates But they are limited to features found in the september 22nd version That's their way of kind of nudging you toward the subscription because they roll out features to those people over time I know that some people want to have the standalone version and I understand there are some reasons why you would want it Sure, but really I just uh subscribed to office 365 and I find it stellar first of all Well office is great and you get you know a terabyte of data on one drive and it's just so it's not that expensive I mean, I really like it. I guess that's my endorsement If you're the kind of person who would upgrade to microsoft office every time it came out Makes perfect sense to subscribe to it If you're the kind of person who really just needs office software I'd say go Libre office if you're not living in the office suite world Why pay for office at all just just get an open Open source version that might do you just fine So I'm kind of with you patrick There are very niche reasons why you need the standalone version still and I understand those exist You don't have to email us and justify it But at this point the subscriptions does seem to be working. It's yeah for a lot of people It is it is honestly pretty good And you know that it's relatively cheap if you take the family plan which includes five computer Five computers and I'm curious dr. Kiki. What word processing do you use for documents? I use microsoft word, but um, that's pretty rare actually I tend to hand I tend to use a google docs Most often so I can share them. I can I can access them easily from any device It just is easy for me in the cloud. I use google docs for almost everything. The only thing I use Office for I use Libre office for several things and I use microsoft office particularly for book publishing Because even the Libre office template sometimes cause funny things to happen So and yeah, I guess this is getting a little bit long for a headlines discussion, but um, it's it's Impressive how microsoft have managed has managed to keep it relevant And honestly, I think they've written it out long enough that a few people are starting to say well I use google docs all the time and it's actually my primary thing But i'm thinking it's getting a little bit stale at this point and office has been improving so much That i'm wondering if it's not, you know, some people who would never have considered switching Back kind of might consider it now. So I mean again i'm microsoft being impressive Um, all our office talk made me thirsty for a cup of coffee patrick Well, you're in luck because in gadget reports starbucks has updated its android app to include mobile orders and mobile payments Bringing it up to speed with the ios version the android app will work in the us canada And the uk in stores that the company owns that means 7 000 starbucks in the us plus 2500 starbucks locations inside target and safe way 1000 stores in canada and 700 stores in the uk So that starbucks at the airport is not going to take this This is this is what that means because there's starbucks in france aren't going to take them. No Yeah, you're left out this time I don't want to starbucks anyway. I don't go to starbucks either. There is one near my house I go to starbucks if I have a gift card That's kind of what happens. Eileen gets gift cards from people and then we go to starbucks to spend her gift card That's it. Yeah All right, uh, xiaomi has released the me 4c flagship smartphone in china The me 4c has a 6 core 64 bit snapdragon 808 processor 5 inch 1080p screen dual 4g sim support usb-c It's all running on the me ui 6 os And you'll be able to upgrade to me ui 7 once that comes out soon the me 4c goes on sale in china wednesday The 2 gigabytes of ram 16 gigabyte version for 1299 rmb 1299 rmb that's about 204 us Then there's a 3 gigabyte ram 32 gigabyte storage version for 1499 rmb. So that's about 235 us xiaomi has also launched me mobile a new carrier service It's an mvno now that offers on-demand roaming for prepaid and pay as you go plans. So finally Uh, all those people accuse xiaomi of always imitating apple. They're only imitating an apple rumor here Apple hasn't launched an mvno They're you know trying to be uh proactive in their imitation Um, you know, I've been thinking maybe I should get a xiaomi phone if only just to test uh to have a little bit more on hands experience with android and My friends have been talking about aliexpress I don't know if you if you use it or if you have it in the us But it's relatively easy to find those cheap phones cheap phones over there Although I can't find for some reason the search part doesn't return phones to me only cases and such So if anyone in the chat room has a link to the latest xiaomi for cheap at on aliexpress You have to usually go gray market in the european us if you want to get a me phone because they don't officially sell them I guess there but but yeah, it's it's so cheap. I'm thinking, you know, it's not android though It's me ui. Oh is it? Oh, okay So it's an it's android underneath, but it's like amazon with the fire of tablets, right? Uh, yeah, no if you want to you want to go pure gul. So, uh, I I'm an idiot. All right, nevermind Moving on, uh, francis constitutional court rejected uber's appeal tuesday upholding a ban on uber pop The low on the allows taxi services and certified chauffeurs to operate systems that put clients in touch with drivers The decision does not affect uber's other services which employ professional drivers next week Two uber france executives are due to stand trial for deceptive business practices Um, so you remember early in the summer when the taxis were really angry and burning cars in paris Burning uber cars. Well the taxi drivers Yes, the taxis themselves weren't burning anything Oh Although I you know From what they were saying the taxis might have been okay. I wasn't there you're closer to it So, um, but so basically it really annoyed me for a bunch of reasons at that point One of the reasons was that the legal proceedings were on the way and in all likeliness The constitutional court was going to reject That appeal by uber which the taxis were the taxi drivers Were protesting So this is just a continuation and which proves it was going to happen. Anyway, so well and it's it's an interesting argument I mean, this is one of the few times uber has legitimately been just defending their ride sharing We always talk about uber as being ride sharing most of what people use is uber x or uber black Which isn't ride sharing. That's just a nifty way of putting professional drivers in touch with you And it still is efficient and saves money and that's where uber gets in the most trouble because they're not always using Following the rules of a taxi system, even though they're running a professional driver system This one is interesting to me because france says we don't care if it's ride sharing We don't care if it's independent people using uber to get in touch with independent drivers You can't do it. You can't you can't operate a system that puts people in touch with each other if it has to do with driving So the thing is the the issue is Obviously the issue is uber, but especially there are still Debates about the uber regular service, but for uber pop It is very clearly regular people who are acting as taxis and uber is saying They're not taxis. They're ride sharing as as you were pointing out, which is Absolutely Untrue in this case, right? They are actually Using this service to provide taxi services. So there was very little doubt that this was going to get banned and For for for the other services uber acts and uber regular They are professional drivers and they're they're um There are issues about them being hailed in the streets and things like that but This is still under discussion for uber pop. Everyone knew it's not, you know, it's it they're full of Pooh, do you still use them? I use uber of course. I don't I don't I think they were right to To question the validity of uber pop I think under the the rules and the laws even if if they are relatively new Uber pop is probably shouldn't be allowed to operate now whether or not you agree with the laws is a different matter But but now nobody can do that even if they're not trying to hoodwink the law Like somebody who legitimately wants to put together a ride sharing service can't Well, actually, um, the there's a company called blah blah car, which is a french company that just Got a pretty impressive fundraising round Um, that does that but for long distance. So it is actual ride sharing Uh from city to city or you know, these kinds of things It's just that you can't use the service to drive around wait for someone to call you go there and do that all day Right, so it's a little different Uh google microsoft qualcom and baidu, uh, the search engine company out of china all participated in the latest round of funding for cloud flare The cloud security company that's most famous for combating denial of service attacks Although they do much more than just that forbes points out the announcement comes a little bit more than a week After cloud flare announced a partnership with baidu to offer cloud flare services in china cloud flare ceo Matthew prince compares amazon's all-in-one cloud services to apple and says of his own company cloud flare We're the android of cloud services Because we're open to other people we can get google and baidu I mean google and baidu don't invest in a lot of things at the same time. In fact uber is one of the few that they both do Uh, because they're competitors, but cloud flare is like, hey, we're just the end point security. That's all we want to do I remember when cloud flare was just launching and it was making all of this noise because they would protect you against Uh dd os's and now they've grown so fast. Ah, they grow so fast Tech grant reports on the next version of form labs 3d printer the appropriately named form 2 Form labs printers uh use resin hardened by lasers Printed objects must be cured in rubbing alcohol. The form 2 has a 25 200 micron is that 25 to 200 or is it a unit of right? So 25 to 200 micron layer height And a new system that allows you to swap out official resins with your own brew The system also has a wiper arm to prepare each layer as it is printed removing fragments The form 2 is available for order now for three thousand four hundred and ninety nine dollars plus 149 per liter of resin So this is one That's really cool. It's a lot of people are calling it like the macintosh of printers because it's so nicely designed And really simple to use except for that curing and rubbing alcohol bath part, right? Like it's really cool. It uses lasers to harden the resin So that and it like basically prints up it sticks to the top and the and the platform raises up as it prints And the parts that are hardened just stay and the rest falls back down into the resin bath But then when it's done you have to bathe it in isopropyl To cure it. So it's really best for somebody who has a sink like a lab Kiki have you used this ever or anything like it? I haven't used this particular printer. No, but um, it's I mean the the additional step of the alcohol bath is not really a big deal I mean You just you just have the alcohol bath and you can you can you don't need a sink for that necessarily You can you can have little plastic tub or a you know Some kind of plastic polymer tub that you put the alcohol in you're not going to put it in glass is fantastic The elementary school is not going to have one but you're saying you can do this on your kitchen You could totally do this in your kitchen and and isopropyl alcohol. I mean aside from being flammable It's not really it's not a terrible thing to have around. So I mean I maybe not an elementary school But um in a high school high school. Sure. Yeah But maybe not consumer grade. I mean it's it's interesting because you're saying hey, it's cool You know, it's not a big deal and I'm thinking Yeah, it's not but I'm not sure the regular people want to bother with all of this, right? Well, I mean to get the the 25 microns is really small And so if you're getting some really great resolution in the printing and you're able to Produce things that you wouldn't be able to produce with other printers Yeah, you want to do you would go through that extra step I think the frustrating part about it is As form labs has made this printer so simple on the printing part Yeah, that it's just frustrating. They're like and I still have to do one more thing That's not the printer doesn't do for me because if they could do the the curing process Automatically, yeah, this thing would be killer. I mean I think that's the only the only downgrade to it, which is why it gets more attention Yeah India has amended its controversial national encryption policy to exempt mass encryption products The first draft of this law had required users you as a phone user To store any encrypted communication on your phone in plain text for 90 days And then the government could say we need to look at that within that 90 days A lot of people protested that funny That would have included apps like whatsapp viber hike The draft now has been amended It still requires software makers to register with the government if their product uses any kind of encryption So expect some more changes the department of electronics and information technology has opened the draft up for public comment in india until october 16th I'm wondering how much of all of this and we're going to talk about this a little bit more in the With the messages that we've We've received Is it really just governments not understanding technology at all and in some cases, you know You explain it to them. They get it in some cases. They don't But I really hope that this just goes away when the you know previous generation Goes away too This is really misreading the public like no you can't just make everybody store stuff so that you can hopefully go get it For people later like this just doesn't make any sense. Do these people not use phones? Yeah, but it's a completely different uh governmental system. You know, I mean they have uh, they have different priorities and it's um, you know They have a right to have their own uh, their own ideas about how data should be accessed accessed by the government We have our idea here and we have a certain perspective on it. We don't think what they're doing in india is necessarily thoughtful or insightful But they are being thoughtful and insightful from their own perspective. So we just have to you know, accept that and go through the process It seems like the people of india sort of don't think it's very thoughtful or insightful Sure, the yeah the the people who are involved. I mean people want to have their own data security They want to have uh, not have to have the government access their stuff or have you know They want privacy of a certain of a certain extent and but the government's like We want into your you know into your life if we want it Yeah, and I think I will give the indian government credit for backtracking for amending responding to popular opinion and Opening the draft for more comments. That's the right thing. That's great. Yeah. Yeah um Yeah, I would agree with you Like most of the time but also sometimes it's just some people do silly stuff. It's true It's true Oyster the netflix of books announced monday. It is shutting down Oh Recode reports most of its team is moving to google and google will compensate Oyster investors for the hires google is carefully not saying they're buying oyster Yeah, so this is google trying to avoid some kind of regulatory Uh investigation is my guess especially since they're still Fighting the author's guild over google books because these folks are going to go work on google books And uh, they don't need to have regulatory investigation of them purchasing a company So they the next best thing hire all the best people away And then compensate the investors so that they don't get in trouble from them Yonevo five sent us a tale of two echoes over at zd net author david guertz Wrote about the night of evil alexa The amazon web services outage this weekend led one of his bedroom echoes to go rogue The unit not only refused to turn on the lights, but any request Resulted in red spinning lights while alexa herself spoke slow meaningless words Somehow guertz was able to go to sleep after that Uh, and the next morning his alarm rang as normal from the echo However, he could not get it to turn off So he finally gave up and unplugged the device And then wrote an article pondering the future of the internet of things And you know the real the real lesson and the real question here that we all should should ponder is What happens the day you can't? Plug the device off All right captain chud pointed out that envidia has partnered with has partnered with several manufacturers To pull to put a special Oh, wow, a specially binned version of its gtx 980 desktop graphics card into laptops Asus and msi are among the companies who will sell the 17 inch 1080p display behemoth that with that card that has 248 days 2048 sorry CUDA cores up to 8 gigabytes of 7 gigahertz gd gddr 5 memory And in 11 26 megahertz core clock Users will be able to tweak the fan curve of the gpu as well as adjust the core clock and memory speeds envidia's senior product manager for gforce notebooks Brian choy told ars tecnica. We're not going for the mainstream guy who's looking for something slim and light. No kidding Yeah, I was going to pick up a couple of these just throw in the bag Yeah, I mean this is this is basically envidia saying we have gotten to the point where we can technically say we can put a desktop gpu in a laptop It may have a lot of caveats on that But nobody did it before Your laptop will be as big as a desktop It might be close to that. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of it's I mean gtx 980 is one of the most powerful You know, it's it's the standard line the most powerful one. It's kind of I can't imagine who would actually want to have so it's going to be literally as heavy as a as a desktop But it will have a screen that will be transportable. I guess we've had that for a long time And hopefully some of these companies come up with ones with 4k screens Because 1080p with the gtx 980 does seem like a little bit of a waste Well, you get better fps. Yeah, you get lots of other things. That's true. That's a good point On that my friends is a look at the headlines Didn't like those headlines Well, did you vote at daily tech news show dot reddit.com? Because that's where we got captain chuds recommendation and maybe we get yours too more people vote Better it helps us, but it always helps us daily tech news show dot reddit.com All right, let's talk about the team of researchers From several universities university of minnesota virginia tech mariland prinston johns hopkins Getting together to create a 3d printed guide For a rats sciatic nerve On a custom built machine Dr. Kiki What did they do again? Okay, so the the brief brief summary Is it like what you said they they show that they can take a complex nerve structure Not just a straight line of a nerve but something that splits into a bifurcation And scan it and then 3d print it and then take that scaffold that they printed stick it in a mouse And stick the ends of nerves into the end of the scaffold and the nerves would grow together And they did so they had nerve regrowth and they gained functional re reuse reanimation of the limb So the 3d printing part i get which is printing the scaffold up out of silicone But they had to do something else to it And and i'm curious why you would need to print the scaffolding Is that the only way to to regrow the nerve properly? Yeah, well So part of the scaffolding is that they also embedded it with nerve growth factors and there are specific chemical signals within the body that different kinds of nerves respond to and so if you can take A motor nerve that sends motor signals to your limbs and if that's been cut and you can put motor Motor motor growth factor in a little tube and stick the ends of a broken motor nerve in there Then that chemical signal will say grow this way and it basically tells the nerve to build new parts of itself and Extend to the other end where it'll reconnect same thing for the sensory nerves And so the scaffold had these different instructions in it for The motor nerve that had been cut and also for sensory nerve part of the sciatic nerve that had been cut And so they grew in the opposite directions So I understand the the motor goo and the The different this goo in that goo, yeah You put the two goos in the right place in the basically what the scaffold is basically A y shaped tube, right? It's a tiny tube A tiny tube What I don't understand in all of those stories really is well, I I do understand it, but Why does 3d printing make this Possible because it seems like this wasn't possible at all before can't don't labs have like Incredible machines that can it's just a piece of plastic. Why can't we build this tiny piece of plastic for this use Without the 3d printer. Why does it make it so much? Why does it advance things so much faster? Okay, so the complexity of what you look at when you see a nerve you look in an image from an anatomy textbook What you see is an is this big white structure, right? It's just this white tube looking structure But inside of that are some hundreds of other of nerve fibers And so there are all these nerve fibers that have to connect inside from one broken end to the other broken end And so the 3d printing that technique that they used enables The researchers to actually design guide channels. So there are these little microscopic channels inside Of the scaffold that actually allow the fibers to grow and physically tell it you should go that way It's kind of like a river bed for a river. It funnels the water in a particular direction So the physical structure of the 3d printing is fine enough With the the technique that they're using that they could actually get these channels To help guide and then that along with the chemical signals It accentuated the growth of the nerve and the reconnecting and the regain a function So if I understand this right they you know, uh, grandpa Jean rat is complaining about his sciatica And they go scan healthy Cousin Joe rats sciatic nerve and they can use that scan then to print the one for grandpa Jean Well, so that's the question Yes, and anatomically most nerves are going pretty much in the same direction and have a fairly similar structure So ideally you would want a healthy scan from the same individual You know if you could get scan your own nerves or grandpa's nerves before sciatica set in Then it would be great to use his own nerve scans So what you're saying is we should go we should go right now get 400 percent of everything of us just in case just in case yeah what the researchers are hoping to do is um get create a library of scans from lots of individuals so that Nerves that have been damaged we can kind of get a best fit for the person that you would be creating a new nerve A new catalog for yeah, you'd get a catalog a nerve catalog So you're like oh this one looks does this one make me look fat. No you're coming rose gold For my myelin sheath I think uh, you know part of what they did here is um usually they've There have been previous uh and different 3d printing techniques that involve printing resin structures with laser or And in this technique, they used silicone. Um, so it's inert in the body. It's not going to cause any rejection issues additionally They're looking into other types of scaffolding material that would be potentially reabsorbed by the body You remember the the 3d printed? I think it was the 3d printed trachea for the young child last year That the the material they used for that actually gets reabsorbed by the body over the course of three or four years So so that to go back in and take it out Yeah That was going to be my question actually do they they do have to do that they have to go in and Cut it off and take it out. Well with this uh this one For not necessarily so it's made out of silicone. So it's it's completely inert. So it's not Um going to do any it's not going to cause any problems and it potentially holds the nerve fibers in place It wouldn't have to be removed um But it would be better to have the nerves completely on their own and not be Encased by anything so a bioabsorbable material is the ideal But whether or not it will work really well in people is the question and that's what we still haven't done This is a mouse study. So once again, we've helped mice But we have not yet done anything Those mice they're getting older perks. Yeah unacceptable. They get all the best stuff Bionic mice. I don't know if I'd trade myself for a mouse or a rat though Well, it may be not a lab rat. They they seem to have a difficult life But just so These things always seem like they're I mean to us mere, you know, non-scientists They're like, oh, yeah, this this this sounds cool. It sounds incredible But how much of an advance is it actually is it like this revolutionary thing that is going to be used? probably in five years everywhere and like how big a deal is it Well, hopefully it it is a big deal because um it seems as though it is a fairly simple technique What they talk about is this one pot 3d printing. So they're not using multiple devices to Create this three-dimensional structure They've got a 3d printer that prints the silicone and dopes it with the chemical signals and gets everything right in one go And that is going to be that that's amazing. And then if you also have the scans available Or have have an in-house scanning possibility you could scan Do a single surgery scan and print do a single surgery and A patient could potentially be in and out of the hospital in less time than currently So you could scan them and print them in during one surgical procedure potentially Whoa, yeah, gotta be a faster printer. I guess but it would have to be a faster printer But it's uh, it is a fairly I mean it's it's the speed is getting faster and faster and The the benefit here is that if you're getting a nerve graft For for nerve damage They have to take a nerve out of another part of your body doing that causes You know nerve death in that area You're basically going to end up losing some amount of feeling and it's two surgeries because you have to Have one surgery to remove a nerve you have to have a second surgery to Implant the nerve in the place where you want it to go and then you don't even know whether or not it's going to take And so there is there is a high probability of rejection and infection With the current Techniques that are used and so these 3d printing technologies because you can dope with the chemicals That that basically are like come on nerve grow. You can do it It's little cheerleaders. Yeah, it's nerve Exactly and speed up how fast the growth happens So in these mice it was a three month process to regrow 10 millimeters of Of an excised nerve And that's a lot most of the most of the single nerve trans not transplants, but Scaffold experiments that have been done and we're looking at like three or four millimeters And so 10 millimeters in three months You might think wow, that's not very far But nerves grow incredibly slowly and so this happened fast and it pretty much worked So this is a big step forward so Is does that mean that you know when we're like we see in movies or tv shows like accidents and they're like Oh, I can't feel my legs and you're like, uh, is is it my like my my Spinal cord is broken like can we now think This is probably going to be fixable. So you'll be ah, can't feel my legs Yeah, just take them into the doctor's depot and scan and print a new one Scan and print a new spinal cord It's kind of half of a serious question though. Uh, does it mean that when you you actually lose Uh motor function in your limb you can hope that at some point in the near future you'll be able to regain that kind of function or So spinal cord itself is a little bit different Than the peripheral nerves. And so what we're talking about with the sciatic nerve and other nerves like that is these are peripheral nerves And so those say not, you know, not a car accident where you break your spine and sever the the spinal cord, but say you have Another accident where you cut nerves in your arm or in your leg Um, you the possibility of having those reattached or segments that are missing or crushed be regrown is going to be much higher And and you kind of touched on this but different kinds of 3d printers can do this They customized a 3d printer for this particular experiment But I assume that's because they wanted to make sure it was printing the growth factors Correctly, but it was it was still a normal 3d printer. They didn't have to build it from scratch, right? They did not build it from scratch. No, but I um, it's a it's a custom 3d printer that they used customized customized and modified Yeah for for nerve printing fascinating stuff Thank you for for talking with us about this kiki. This is this is really good Even if we're a ways off from printing spinal cords like peripheral nerves is a huge thing for for people Oh, it's it's this is really big. Um, you know, this kind of stuff where it's oh, we can print an ear We can do that. I mean some of this stuff is gimmicky, you know, just to show that we can do it But this it is even though it doesn't seem like a huge it's not a you know, giant step forward but it is a step in the right direction and Um, it's I think it's really good news, uh, you know I don't know about five years But they have to test it in humans and see if it works and get you know All the FDA approval and all that kind of stuff before it can be used medically, but um It is it is a very promising technique Well, you're you're saying that the nerve thing is like a bigger deal Because you're a neuroscientist. I bet the ear scientists are all excited about the ear growing Those are throat doctors Say a different tune No, I do think that the peripheral nerve regrowth probably it seems to me It just seems more applicable than you know, how many people do you know need a new ear? Yeah I don't know maybe a painter like fixing my hearing totally Necessary, but yeah, how many van goes out there? It's a proof of concept though. It's all it's all and I'm sure those who actually do need them will be very happy that they exist But yeah, they'll also be right again to me. Yeah They're all gonna say but I need this. I need it. I'm the guy who needs an ear. Thanks a lot, Mary. Thanks a lot Our pick of the yeah our pick of the day comes from Andrew and finally reigning Portland, Oregon Can you confirm that kiki? It's sunny right now right now? He wrote this a while ago He wanted to suggest reddit.tv a playlist of videos from r slash videos that by default Plays videos from that subreddit but can be set to any subreddit and you get an ever updating playlist of the best videos In that subreddit basically all the videos in that subreddit So you can just if you don't know what to watch on the internet You can just go to reddit.tv and just watch all day long and then if you go to reddit.tv slash r slash Don't go to daily tech news show because we don't have any videos listed right now But if we did you could set it to that and and it would play whatever videos are in that subreddit It's pretty nifty Thanks, Andrew send your picks to feedback at daily tech news show dot com and you can find my picks at daily tech news show dot com slash picks A few messages of the day. We talked about the kaniel judgment cn il Uh, uh, and we got an email Who said neither the kaniel judgment nor the original right to be forgotten ruling our attacks on the u.s First amendment and free expression the last paragraph of the press release reads Contrary to what google has stated this decision does not show any willingness on the part of the kaniel to apply french law Extra territorially it simply requests full observance of european legislation by non european players offering their services in europe In other words the kaniel is asking google to ensure that the rtbf is made effective within the european union Uh, and our our writer says this is geo blocking by any other name and completely familiar to google For example, if youtube has agreed to block access in europe to some hollywood content They have a deal for in the us that no effort by me to switch to the us youtube site will magically give me access Uh, unless you use a vpn and you look like you're coming from the us, right? So this is this is him saying look france is just saying you shouldn't have any of your search engines that are Visible to europeans Show those right to be forgotten links. We're not trying to say that you have to export this You could show google.fr with these links to people in the u.s. Just don't show them to people in the u So, yeah, that's not they're not exactly saying just geo blocking and will be fine. They are saying very explicitly We're not we don't think that any one country should control what people in another country should see But they're also saying at the same time You know, we are just trying to make google apply the law of this one country Where where they're operating for everyone in this country? Which implies for all that it should apply to all of the domains and and they're not explaining how they want this to apply so They're not saying just geo block it and they're not saying just change it for every domain including, you know dot com that whatever But i'm not sure Maybe geo blocking is going to satisfy them They're just not saying that and they could have said just geo blocking will be good. So it's not as clear as writer Is making it out to be I would be a little bit more Cautious in the interpretation Yeah, I would say it does feel a little bit like they're saying No, you don't get to leave these links up in other sites, but it's not our problem. What other Issues that cause we're going to say we don't need it to be in plot, you know enforced outside of eu borders But we're not going to get we're not we're also not going to propose us a solution Yeah, I mean I wonder what would happen if google came back and said all right fine This then will geo block and you'll only get Google.fr when you're in france I I mentioned that yesterday. I wonder what the response would be to that Yeah, I think you know, I understand the reasoning. I think it's it's still taking a you know fighter jet to a hammer problem Um, there's no easy way of fixing it, but again the there are so many issues in that rtbf Uh problem that we could make a whole show about it. But yeah, anyway, it's not very clear They're not being clear and in legal terms the lack of clarity is always an issue. So And berk who wrote us from turkey yesterday wrote back once his bus was done Getting him to where he was going with a little bit more wanting to say that turkey installment plans for phones were at one point so widespread that it caused a credit bubble And therefore for the past couple years installment plans for smartphones have been against the law Uh, it's the reverse of the u.s. Where we're just now starting to get installment plans Uh, why does berk bring this up? He says at one point consumerism made purchasing things extremely easy and because of turk's social competitiveness Most people's priority purchase quickly became smartphones where they could i am and follow each other Combine this with the stricend effect and the power of word of mouth It seems no longer to be that difficult to see why social apps are as popular as they are in turkey I'm not too sure about the smartphone trends in other countries But in turkey with a population of 70 plus million and an abundance of smartphones It's only natural to see some periscopes sprouting up from the fertile soils of this land So yeah, it's another insight Into why the social networking particularly periscope like we were talking about yesterday so popular in turkey I had no idea that the installment plans caused a credit bubble in turkey. That's fascinating This this is why I love this show you get people from the actual Places to tell you what it actually is you Nothing to do with any of this, but you usually Don't get this in in traditional media and certainly not about tech right you don't hear from the people on the ground So well, thank you so much. Thank you for yeah for being willing to uh To write in about that and and not even just geographically but subject matter-wise. Thank you so much dr. Kiki For coming on and talking neuroscience and 3d printers. That was awesome. Oh so much fun. It's such a great topic I love it folks if you guys liked that and you want more There's been that kind of talk going on every week for decades I think we can literally say decades right at least more than one decade. Yeah, I mean, yeah So it's plural technically plural this week in science rounded up. 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You can call us 51259 daily That's 5125932459 listen to the show live monday through friday 4 30 p.m Eastern time at alpha geek radio dot com visit our website daily tech news show dot com back tomorrow with scott johnson talk to you then This show is part of the frog pants network get more at frog pants dot com That was an awesome show. Thank you so much dr. Kiki. You're welcome Take the science and the tech and you put it together and it's delicious. It's a podcast. That's right That was fun Yeah, it was good stuff good stuff and it was uh, it was a nice change of pace I think no way to have kind of an in-depth medical Yeah, we got into biotech in a perfectly natural way Yep Which is awesome as much as I like iPhones and stuff from apple Well, you know apple's getting into the nerve business now. 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Oh that one's good I like uh, lap my skid all the perks, but it's not getting My skid all the perks I can't feel my face when you cut my nerves I can't feel my face because you severed my peripheral nerves And my face is numb because of that. This is not a song. Please help me No one can help Tom There's no help Ooh Verizon tells me I get four hundred dollars towards a new phone What? What? Say four hundred dollars. Oh, but I have to buy a phone What? Just give me the four hundred dollars. I don't want the phone. I just want to four hundred dollars Can I just have the money? I broke down and and ordered the nifon 6s Did you you broke down? Well, I didn't really break down. I just bought an iPhone So in the ever expanding Experiment with how horrible it is to try to change phone providers in the united states I uh today my the new iphone 5s that I bought for my mom Arrived with t-mobile sim card turned it on worked fine at my sister's office. She takes it out to my mom No coverage So now Instead of like I with an it would be bad enough with a normal purchase where you'd be like Oh, it doesn't really work. Can I get my money back? You take it back Now I not only have to do that but I have to cancel it Service and I have to try but I still want to transfer one number from a family plan But not the other number and it's going to be like an hour long phone call I'm sure to get it all sorted out. Hey, jenny. Yo, you get a chance Can you grab a screenshot of ellie trying to yank my head off? Oh my gosh Hold on This is how baby this is how babies, uh learn they learn this way, unfortunately This is how ellie learned her dad's head didn't come off Easily I gotta make the window smaller daddy. I want your headphones Give me your headphones. Oh my gosh. She's so cute I've got some great pictures of kai from when he was younger still feeling my headphones trying to talk into my mic Do you ever do you ever look at them when when he's being a little handful and you kind of just like oh, okay? That's that's why I love Because I do that with her. That's why you have to keep those cute pictures around. Oh, I got a good one I got a good one. Thank you. Kai's been on several podcasts, hasn't he? Yeah Kai could take ellie under his wing and be like here's what it's like growing up on podcast, honey Yeah, he's actually uh, so he's four and a half now and he is Starting to um, ask me if we can make movies Oh Yeah, I said he takes take my phone. It's mommy. Can we make a movie now? Like so one day he showed me how he could take apart the heater grate on the floor. He unscrewed it He's like mommy videotape this Born director he gets the screwdriver. He's like so i'm gonna go like this And I'll take the screw out and then he's like look I did it Did you get that on film? Did you get that mommy? Ah got it. I got it. That's such a classic Yeah, but we're actually um, my husband and I are talking about Doing a video podcast that involves Kai. Oh, wow. That's awesome. We've got plans happening I was just talking to someone about their kid and what a great podcaster she was Um, and I I can't remember who But yeah, it's like kids. It's such a great way to do it. Yeah Kai cast Kai cast That's right. Yeah There's a friend he um a friend of mine. He wrote the um Calm the calm the f down Oh Book for parenting. Yeah, and he does Like a weekly news show talking about the news with his kids No, wow cool. Yeah, and he's got I think the boy they're two boys and I don't They might be a couple of years apart. They might be twins. I don't know. I don't remember but um But it's super cute So he'll bring up the news stories and get their opinions on them and it's just so hilarious to get these You know these like five and six year old seven year old opinions on You know world politics Like last week he asked them what he would do with all the uh the refugees And and and and one of the one of the kids is like well, we'll just build our house taller and invite them to come over It was really sweet I know a kid who's like a super minecraft expert and is just like waiting to be 13 just waiting to be 13 So they can have a youtube channel. Yeah Super adorable I let my child I let I let my son play minecraft He's already into minecraft He likes watching dan tediam's videos. Oh, wow And so now when he plays minecraft, he has a monologue that is very similar to dan tediam's It's really funny That's just so cool like I remember, you know, the the only equivalent of my childhood I could think of is going out in the backyard with a football Throwing it up in the air and doing my own play by play To myself right right and now you just got so much more access and and interesting things to That's great. Yep Yeah, that's pretty cool I don't know 13 years old He'll probably yeah, he'll probably have some experience in online stuff before he His own you having his own youtube channel at 13. He'll be like youtube. Yeah, right youtube's over Yeah, I know. Wow. I'm using blorse spot I'm using mind tube. Yeah, all the kids use blorse mind I don't even know how to say that kai. Well, you wouldn't you're old tom I'm just gonna start a youtube channel of my dog You should oh your dog is adorable. Oh What kind of dog is that? It's a pomeranian. Oh, that's a pomeranian a little ball of fur Look how cute you are He's like a little waking up from a nap and he's just like, why have you done this? Why are you doing this because I have a camera and you're cute get up here I've turned him into a minor instagram superstar under under an assumed name It's really fun Yeah, I like it. What's your what's the instagram account? I like instagram. Oh, it's a w w underscore palm pom Okay, i'm gonna because he really does he takes a fine picture I'm gonna follow your dog. All right Now instagram would just get multiple accounts easy to switch between I would be very happy because I occasionally accidentally post pictures of like real life in the dog feed Oopsie If twitter can do it instagram can definitely do it Yeah, I should be able to okay. There's the aw club I want aw palm. It's like aw underscore. There's an underscore in there. Yeah, there is. There's those teeth. Look at that cute little eye Good that's gonna be good smile stuff that's that's Roger that's the other technique when you're experiencing child related anxiety Look at pictures of cute animals I usually just put up a carpenter's video so she calms down I'm glad that works. I'm I'm I'm amazed it works I mean it's so before her time It is But the carpet it's the carpenters Timeless Yeah, it's so soothing. But really although when people say carpenters, they really just mean caring carpenter Aw Poor other guy whose name no one remembers The brother How many w's in awe? A w w two w's underscore Palm There she is There internet my secret is out. Well, you know, I follow uh bodega yeah, and uh The best pictures of instagram Yes, uh the best picture actually to me It's a really worthy experiment in the power of instagram hashtags Because they really do genuinely work like the population is still small enough at like what 300 million that it it You get response from it in a way that you just don't on twitter and so it's been for me It's been like an interesting experiment in starting something from scratch. It's not just my friends like my food pictures uh But actually trying to have a purpose and see what happens Reload the shih tzu too is my my uh My uh sister-in-laws dog. There's a really cute dog called astro the derp Which is like the best name ever But it's because he has like a derpy tongue and he's so cute. He's a pomeranian, but he's like a little borked Uh, but he's just adorable. I mean i'm like all in in my other instagram identity I'm all in on cute dogs It's ridiculous. All right. 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