 Ladies and gentlemen, good morning. We're going to start the day off this morning with one of our very favorite speakers of all time Today Wendell is going to take us on a journey back almost 50 years to a little known case Which at the time was largely ignored But with what we know now probably shouldn't have been rather important case Most of us do not know much about it. It's going to be a treat. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Wendell Thank you. Well, thank you ladies and gentlemen. It's nice to see so many old friends back here. I Have a little announcement to make to start off with I'm always asked at these conferences Why don't you republish that picture book? Well, it's too expensive for us to do it We never did it never intended to but one has been published Michael Whalen who founded the American Figu got permission from Billy to redo it and he redid it right from the original slide Transparency to the pictures are much sharper here than anything else. I don't have any for sale here But there's some bookmarks on the stage here. You can pick up with an address. You can contact for it Now my presentation today is going to be about the Bob Renaud case. I Don't think many of you remember that but with at my age with a little bit of hindsight I can look back and see one that we popularly threw out at the time probably shouldn't have been because now we have all of the features of that case have been repeated in other cases and Somewhat contemporary with this case were the cases of George Adamski, which has been criticized Over and over again Everybody tried to call him a shout Charleston and a fraud But you know Nobody really investigated that case in this country The only person that really investigated the adab's case was Bruce Kathy from New Zealand an airline pilot That came up here went to mr. Adab's key went over all the sites went back to the contact site and Everything and his report in one of his books is the only real a report on the adab's case Now the rest of them took the cue from the Lorenzans from afro and afro was the first World our first UFO civilian or civilian UFO research organization in the world after nightcap, which was not really civilian in the Coral and Jim when when the newspapers began to report the adab's case out there in Los Angeles Coral and Jim went to visit George Adamski Now Coral was a beautiful lady, but she was had a nascent tongue and She was not very kind to people at the interviewed So when they got to vista, California, he wasn't home People at the house told him he was eating dinner a little diner down the road Operated by I believe it was by his sister or sister-in-law or something And so they went down there and they found George at his table eating his breakfast And they he invited him to sit down they sat down across from him and Coral in her usual Way to begin such investigations Folded fingertips like this says George just how the hell did you do it and he immediately? Suspected that they're not there to get faxed that they're there to pin him to the wall So he said my dear lady you just take a hub cap and throw it in the air and photograph it. So that's what the Lorenz is published in the apro bulletin and being the pioneer everybody else copied from the apro bulletin and Nobody investigated the case after that until Bruce Kathy. So This is something like that. Now. Let me add a couple of comments here. I was in best lose in stag in Boswell, Switzerland brought me to Meyer case we'd been exchanging photographs and she heard about the case in her backyard and She called me one day and said I'm going to be coming to the United States and I have some pictures I didn't want to send to you in the mail that I'd like to show you if you'll pick me up at the bus station I said sure. I'll be glad to do that Once you got in Tucson. I did Lee and Britt elders happened to be in my house at the time when I picked her up and brought her out to the house And she showed us the pictures for the first time they were really great and I She it was through her that I might made my arrangements to go back in and start my investigation of the case myself but she was She published the first UFO journal in the world in German out of Boswell, Switzerland She was the niece of Carl Jung. She was a an international journalist spoke read and wrote in five languages and she Contacted George Adams key early on from the newspaper reports and began a correspondence with him And when he was invited to come to Europe to Meet the king and queen of the Netherlands and Pope John Paul or Pope John the 23rd he went first to lose in stugs home in Boswell and she escorted him all around Europe So I know that he made the trip and I know that he was welcomed when he got to the hate to the Netherlands I know that he did get to the Vatican and She was in the taxi when he left to go into the Vatican And she was waiting for him when he came out and had the papal medal Which they took back to Boswell and put it in losing stugs brothers safe. He owned a jewelry store there So that's I know is all true, and I don't think that he could have faked it Others similar to that were Kelvin Rowe or for your Angelucci Violet Gilbert, I got to tell you about Violet Gilbert. He probably never heard of her She was a contactee in Santa Barbara, California and her visitors agreed one time to let her photograph their ships and she told a Photography friend that owned a photo processing shop at a studio in Santa Barbara What was going to happen and what was the best film to get and he said oh by all means we should get coat of color because it's the sharpest and She invited him to go with her and so she took her hand held 35 millimeter camera and an 8 millimeter movie camera And rolls the film. He did the same and he took a 4x5 press camera with him took pictures with that also Now the visitors appeared on time. They took pictures of it flying overhead They took it pictures of it making an approach. It took pictures of it landing and occupants getting out and the Contacts only lasted about a half an hour, but they quickly snapped a lot of pictures. They shot all their almost all of their film so after this event they rushed right to the Back to the studio to turn in their film for processing. They both went to a five points Grocery a drugstore that had a film processing center there And they turned the film in at that time you had to wait about two weeks for it to be processed and sent back Now they don't process coat of color Except in licensed processing laboratories. There's only five at that time there was four in the United States and one in Hong Kong So all the coat of color film had to go to one of the licensed processing laboratories So when they went back to pick their film up two weeks later on schedule They got a you goof slip in the envelope instead. No film nothing came back The slip says you may have had your let's take your pictures with lens on the camera Might have had your thumb over the over the lens But the pictures didn't come out and you are entitled to a free roll of film take it to your nearest supplier Both of them got the you goof slips. Now. That's a little little unusual and There the the one man was an expert photographer For him to leave the lens on actually he was using it through the lens camera anyway, couldn't see anything if the lens cap was on so When I heard about this or I was visiting out there and and guilt violet was telling me what happened to the film and I said Well, why don't you send them to? Take them to a Kodak shop or something like that so She took hers to a Kodak shop. He said his ups through his own channels and again. They both got you goof slipped So she's telling me this and she said I've got one roll of 35 millimeter film left If you think you can get it processed. I'll give it to you. I said, yeah, I can get it processed Let me have it and I'll see what I can do so at that time I was in touch with Bob Beck Robert Beck who was the head of color control processing Kodak color film for the film studios out in Hollywood And he said yes, I can get it developed for you I said I'm only going to leave it with you if you can guarantee me that you can return the role of film Process or the role of film unprocessed, but in any case I've got to have the original film back processor unprocessed He said I could I could do it for you He says come back in about 10 days and I left and I got a call from him two days later He said come down to the office So I went down to see Bob and he had the role of film on his desk He says mr. Stevens. I can't guarantee you that I can return this film if we process it He said I wasn't aware of this or wasn't familiar with this But he says my lab chief says that we have we're governed by a classified government directive That regulates all Kodak color License processing agencies again, there's only five and they have to report certain things Seen on film and he says what you describe on here is one of the subjects that we have to report they'll send somebody to take a look at it and You may not get it back. So I said don't process. I'll give it back to the owner and That's what happened to that anyway. That was a good case. She got a lot of good pictures She didn't get much publicity, but it was a remarkable case And there would have been some marvelous evidence if if we could have gotten it the next one That was contemporary with George was a Mitchell sisters now if you remember George Adams. He said his contacts were with Venusians and The Mitchell sisters said their contacts were with Martian but in the Mitchell sisters case they had Venusians aboard the Martian spacecraft and in the in the Violet Gilbert case they mentioned Martian's working with them. There was another case Halsey Lieutenant Commander Halsey, I think his name was His his uncle was bull Halsey who he said also had contacts, but this Lieutenant Commander Halsey Was on at the end of the war when we had cut back in money And we couldn't return everybody at one time the PT boat commanders were given grids in the Pacific to run to patrol until they could be returned and retired and Halsey young commander Halsey was running his grid with his patrol boat when it ran on the solid ground in open ocean It was lifted up in the water. He Never saw this before it's not on a charts. He jumped overboard. He jumped down onto a solid object It kept rising and is his PT boat is high and dry Then a conning tower came up out of the hard surface the door opened and the man stepped out took him aboard and showed him around and The told him that they had been observing him for some time. They knew him by his first name Told him that they they showed him around then when they let him go They told him that the time was up and that they would be it would be it would see him again And they did they came back several times while he was still patrolling in the Pacific and when he returned home to California Told his wife about what was happening. She said well, I'd like to meet him He's someone the next time you had a was summoned for a contact. He told them about his wife's desire And they said that's okay. We consider you a unit Bring her along so he did and then him and his wife would Meet them at rendezvous points that would be sent to them through the mail They'd receive a letter with a rendezvous point at a certain place in time and when they go there the Venusians they said they were met them and Sometimes the Venusians came with a Martian one time they came with a Martian couple and they all had dinner in a restaurant together Now this is a little difficult to accept. We don't when we look at Venus we see Hot surface 800 degrees centigrade 40 atmospheres of pressure nothing could live there as We understand it in our physical sense now We have to remember those one when we look out We're looking out through physical eyes with physical senses and all the instrumentation We build is to simply extend their augment our physical senses The Venusians explain that their life wave Does not vibrate to the same frequency as ours that the life wave is a little bit finer In in in density of vibration or density of frequencies At something equivalent to our lower astral and that when they come here They have to slow down their vibrations to interact with us physically Since we can't speed up our vibrations. They interact with them in their reality There's their astral reality. We we don't perceive them But that doesn't mean they're not there They say and there are a lot of visitors from the Venus life wave come to this planet. They say that that Their life wave exists in a vibrational level above the physical level that we see when we look at Venus In some place in the clouds and that they have Trees and plants and rivers and flowers Mountains and everything that we have but in their density of reality appropriate to their density of reality So we have a number of cases of being visitors from Venus Describing such conditions and we are unable to test them because we just can't see into that an off One of the Venusians offered a reverse situation said if somebody else looking at the earth Whose site was denser than the earth site and looked at your planet and saw only the top of the molten Laval layer under the basaltic crust He would think that was your surface of your planet because the rest is transparent to it And he said that would be a reverse situation from between earth and Venus and so now we We have getting up to the contract one to talk about they said that they came from another planet also and That they had to make a change to remain here Comfortably and in a physical sense All these others by the way were successfully put down by the UFO clubs who are really their own worst enemies For lack of money and resource for proper investigation They never could go any place and do anything they had member Subscribers that barely paid for the publication But they never could afford to send anybody anywhere to say a week or two in another country or elsewhere and do any kind of Investigation if a club couldn't own you they attack you that was a that was norm If they did own you others did the attacking so that was the situation with the case We want to talk about involving Bob Renaud So I went back through the contact cases that I'm familiar with and I made a list of things in common with other UFO cases and this seems to be We seem to have a pretty much of a general application here They all the ones in there to interact with us that we are concerned about Are human and appearance just like us when we see them. They look like us. They just a Little bit different in morphology ears of different shape lips of different shape eyes of different shape color a little different But they're human placental animals like us They're always using a variety of different ships. They don't come in just one type in most cases there is more than one type making the approach and the contact and This seems to be a norm also most of them speak our languages fluently and They before they can interact with us, of course, they have to learn the language so that means a period of observation before the contact is ever made and We're not aware of that until the contact is made by that time. They know quite a bit about us They are also careful make careful observations of earth fairs earth affairs earth concept They use marvelous technologies Like ultra light speeds they can read thoughts. They use our radio and television communications that will They use all of our communications including telegraph and computers as well and we've had examples of Other forms of communication used by the way back to the adamsky case. He was told to go to that diner at near Blythe by his friends and a Contact about the same time George Hunt Williamson got word from his sources to go to the same diner south of Blythe and a railroad telegraph operator from a little town outside of Prescott Received over the railroad telegraph where he had his contact had been coming over the railroad telegraph regularly He recognized the source that was it was a practice with him That was their way of communication and they sent him and his wife to the same diner South of Blythe and Adamsky and George Hunt Williamson and his wife and Al Bailey and his wife all met at the diner and Decided that they're on the same. They've since they've all been sent there by their sources they Certainly nothing is going to happen On the highway in front of the diner So they got in their cars and going to drive up to a remotor area The women had packed lunch and they were going to go up out of town and have a picnic And they chose a road north towards the mountains They went up there a little ways and And stopped for the picnic, you know the rest of the story of the George Adamsky story By the way, the reason he had the water in plaster Paris in his cars His contacts told him to take the water and plaster of Paris before he left So to go to the diner so Those that like to dismiss the adamsky case Fred Steckling has a table in here and his father was the one that interacted regularly and frequently with George Adamsky and You can get more information from him, but I Have to wonder if the George Adamsky case is such a patent fraud Why did the United States government send a government airplane to pick him up at Miramar every time you had a Substantive contact and fly him to the Pentagon for debriefings and then fly him back to Miramar and a military airplane that means that They didn't think he was a fraud and they invited him often invited him to stay in the Pentagon in the Pentagon guest facilities Overnight which he always refused to do He would leave the Pentagon take the ferry across the Potomac and go to the rotifers home Across the river from the Pentagon. He always stayed there because he didn't know what might happen if he stayed in the Pentagon Now The most of the visitors use tractor or levitation beams They picked their their subjects up equipment also in a beam of light that That lifts it and they could move it and place it wherever they want it None of them had the that I've encountered have had any money system like ours They their system is entirely different. They don't carry cash and they don't have bills Most of them have no religions like ours All of them have intrusive observational technologies can technologies and can look in on anything. We're doing Some of them had underground another water bases and what I'm going to talk about does have both Here on this planet Many of them limited their direct contact with humans to a very few selected individuals and they didn't allow it to be broadened I'll tell you what Why are one reason that may be why when I was investigating the Pleiades case Of course, I always wanted to meet the pleidians like everybody else And he Billy Meyer had his close friend Guido Moose Brueger his wife and a couple others that he wanted to take into the case with him to meet Sam Yassi and Finally he Resorted to a little trick he put one of them over under a poncho on the back of his moped when he was going to a rendezvous and In this was on a night in January in the middle of the night at two o'clock in the morning actually cold as heck and In the forest on the way to the rendezvous site. They told him to stop and let the passenger off They weren't welcome or they would leave So he put the woman off woman off in the snow with no cold wind or gear and went to meet the rendezvous He said he'd be right back He's in the warm ship with Sam Yassi and he says aren't you sorry for that poor woman back there in the cold? And Sam Yassi said we told you not to bring her and he said I don't understand this at all Why can't I bring somebody in you know? Is it what's so secret about all this? He says no big thing and it's no big secret. She said the problem comes When we when the second person enters the scene she said Everybody doesn't have the same Concepts doesn't have the same background. They have difference of background different languages different educational Levels different understandings of different things and she said they don't all see everything the same way She says witness five Witnesses to an automobile accident. They always describe it in their details that they're Disparency discrepancy between the details when they go to make Comparances later. She said the problem comes when the second third and other people enter the case because they won't see it Exactly the same way you do and in time They begin to group up they some will agree and others don't agree and then more agree and then they have more factions She's look at your Christian religions. You have 220 different factions each one believing. He has the true source She says this is what happens when you expand the context She said it's more economical to us to simply stop the context with you and start with somebody else That hasn't these that does not have these needs in order to work productively So after that I kept I stopped trying to get in the context. Of course everybody else did too, but Now we knew why it's not going to happen. It may be never going to happen the oh For that reason all contacts Were limited to single contactees as far as I know I don't know of any case where except for the husband and wife team Where they were more than one contact or our contactee was admitted into the case They most of them spoke of an organization of planets of some kind in the case of the solar cross brothers channeled by The young guy was his name who? Yeah, Miller dick Miller and They spoke of an organization of planets that they were a member of and They've included a lot of the local planets here That the the corandians speaking to Bob Renaud describe two major organizations that are in Have operations in our sector of space they did not include the solar cross group They had an alliance of planets and a confederation of planets They're roughly equal going to that a little bit more later, but if there does to seem seem to be a System of organization beyond earth Some of the visitors have bases on our moon of course the corandians did too Some of them mentioned a number of them mentioned Mars and Venus beings visiting earth and so do the corandians and there are other witnesses involved now the first information I can find the Pointer here Okay, we'll Bring up a slide here That's what I just covered that information there. I hope it's readable This is the First publication that put out anything on the Bob Renaud case. This is the UFO International put out by AFS CA American flat amalgamated flying saucers company put up by the Gabriel Green Gabriel Green was a young man that inherited the family fortune and Took it to organize a research UFO research group and started publishing a little magazine And this is one of his early issues Actually, there were several issues before this but what you see here is a picture on the cover done by a staff artist of a corandian vehicle that was manufactured on corandora and transported here by a Telemetric process was apported here by from corandora, and we'll go into that a little bit later this next one is a succeeding issue of The AFS CA journal it's also UFO International's what it was titled Had another some more of the story Here is Gabriel Green the publisher of the that journal He He had a pretty good well-going organization. He went to the giant rock convention There's still a few old folks here that remember the convention to giant giant rock in California may even remember Gabriel Green at one time the independent party in the United States drawing him for as a candidate for president And we'll go into that a little bit later here is the report that I summarized from the work done by Gabriel Green back in the in the early 60s and This is what the cover that I worked out for the book that I am putting out By the way, the book is only in e-book format couldn't afford to publish a hard copy and the back cover of the book looks Something like this. Well, it looks like we've lost sticking slide there it is back cover the book and that is Actually lost the back cover, but that's the diagram of the ship now. Let me see if I can find a pointer here on the left hand side you see a little craft a board a little disc shaped crap with a dome that's a One of the smaller scouts it only carries one or two people and it's carried aboard this other larger scout also shuttlecraft and was Bob Renaud was eventually Shown how to operate this little craft operates very simply and he was shown how to operate it and a Couple of times they sent the craft to pick him up in the driveway in front of his house with nobody else aboard The canopy would go up all by itself and and a voice would invite him aboard and you get in and it would fly him out to the shuttlecraft Now Bob Renaud appeared one time on The platform describing his case and that was at Buck Nelson's program back in Wisconsin I think it was Mountain View, Miss Wisconsin in about 1967 and oh, here we go. Thank you very much and Okay, we got one and so and he was attacked by the debunkers and ridiculed for telling his story because there it was one of the earlier stories of ongoing contact and He decided that he his problem and trying to answer the question is nobody wants to listen to it a Substantive answer they want to ask a one-line question. I want a one-line answer. It's that's hard to do I've often get those in the Swiss case and so he He decided that he didn't have time to educate the closed minds and he didn't have any particular interest in it Anyway, he knew his truth He had his own facts and he didn't need feel any need to persuade anybody else to believe what he already knew himself and so he refused to go on a platform anymore. He stopped sending his reports to Gabriel Green and just kept them all to himself and the context continued but the Carl and Annie White in Wiesbaden, Germany an organization they called Duist published The UFO knock rickton, which is UFO news. It was the only UFO newspaper in the world that came out weekly Was about 18 pages and it had all it was nothing but UFO news and reports around the world So they soon heard about Bob Renaud's case And then invited him to come to Germany and tell him about it sent him a ticket a paid ticket He did took his notes and went to Wiesbaden and met Carl and Annie White They talked about his case for several days and the vice became so interested They wanted to publish his information And he finally agreed to let them publish it only if they wouldn't allow it to be translated into English and sent back the United States So the vice published the notes that he had and it took three volumes. There's volume one And here's volume two You got a picture of one of the shuttlecraft on that one And here is volume three It slides you out of order that looks like that's volume one. Anyway, there were three volumes that were published by UFO knock rickton and It included in those volumes they included the only pictures that were ever released of Bob Renaud's Facility Bob Renaud was a high school graduate about 19 years old Turn 20 while this was early going on He rented the basement room in his parents home and worked in a general electric factory in Massachusetts and He took his money that he earned in his job and And collected electronic equipment. He became a ham radio buff built his own ham radio set from a kit And then he proceeded to build himself A home built television set from a kit also You see the television set in the left side of the picture there His ham radio is in the front on the little table and He was happy with his Communications gear and his setup and it was doing serving him. Well, he he was he being fulfilled by The efforts that he was putting into it and he was They're sitting there reading a magazine one night and he thought he'd tune up turn tune in the bbc news broadcast from london So he put his magazine down and went over turned his set on Let it warm up and then tried to tune in bbc And the closer he got the bbc the louder noise he got In his radio, there was a beep beep beep beep that was quite loud When he got on bbc, it was so loud. He couldn't really hear bbc. So he tuned down to get away from it Couldn't hear very good very good that way either So he tuned back up again and went looking for the beep when he home done a beep and got it loud and clear it stopped And a soft boy said bob stay on this frequency. We want to talk to you. We've been trying to contact you for some time So he was amazed that this was happening stayed on the frequency And they told him that if he would Make some adjustments in a short wave radio He could signal them and they could come back to him immediately on a better frequency a clearer frequency Which they set up for it. He made the modifications. Then he had regular contact between him and the visitors So after four or five of these contacts, they told him how to modify His home built television set to do the same thing So he could pick up images on his television set Of them rod transmitted from their craft And now he had two-way communication. He could sit in front of his television set around black and white screen there and Talked to him on his radio And see him at the same time and he thought this was great And those contacts continued to develop And they told him that they would eventually talk to him face to face Here's the only time that he appeared on a convention. I'm sorry That's another picture of him in his little basement studio And here's a picture of buck buck nelson's convention From a book where I found that's buck nelson in the left side walking into the picture Wasn't a very impressive convention But it still attracted a few people and attracted the debunkers right along with all the rest Here's another issue of gabriel green's UFO international now. He's calling it flying saucers international And this picture shows the corendian car where they picked Bob renoud up in front of his house and they flew to a An area not more than eight miles from where he lives In the berkshire mountains they sent it into a forest clearing When they got a few yards above the ground It opened up like you see there clamshell doors opened up The car went down a shaft the doors closed behind it And they were in a An elaborately excavated underground facility that the car traveled down the corridors carrying the passengers with it And they traveled some distance. It was a quite a large facility They they they went down several corridors and parked the car in a parking garage and got on Escalator walks sidewalks moving sidewalks to down some more corridors to a welcoming room and there His friends presented bob to somebody at a reception desk and And they prepared a pass for him to be used a plastic pass that had Some coded signals in it And this they gave him this pass so he could use it to get into the facility by himself If he ever needed to or was told to or wanted to the next issue Of the flying saucers international showed The first man to walk in space This guy walked in space On a corendian craft in a corendian spacesuit Eight months before our first american astronaut Made an extra vehicular Exit from our spacecraft So we give a lot of credit to our first man to walk in space, but he's really not the first one to be out there outside the craft and It was bob ren out Here is a little more detail On the The spacesuit that they provided him It was not a highly pressurized suit But it contained an atmosphere or his earth's atmosphere in it It had control buttons on the breast there It had magnetic boots that Stuck to the surface of the spacecraft They were in when he tilted his ankle at a certain angle It would release the magnetism and he could lift the boot When he put it down again, it would would say fashion till he tipped his ankle a certain way and There's also a diagram there Of the spacecraft the inside of the spacecraft that took him Out into space for that walk in space And uh We'll come back to that diagram a little later the scout that particular spacecraft I believe was about 60 feet in diameter If I remember correctly, but we get another diagram of it This next one shows Hey as an artist rendition Bob renows departure from his driveway And that little remote controlled dome disc that carries only one or two people that I showed you aboard another craft Here it's approaching the carrier carrier craft And you see the iris port that opened as it got closer and it went in that iris port inside Into the hangar and bob got out and met his his friends there now this is a picture a photograph Of the area where they parked the car now the first time For the first face to face meeting He got his signal on on his ham radio told him to be out in front of his house at four o'clock sharp So we went out there about five minutes early and almost Right on the dot headlights came around the corner in the distance. This is dark at night It was cold morning in in wintertime and a Plymouth convertible turned the corner With one man in it. He pulled up stopped and opened the door To let bob in when he when he got in the convertible. He saw that it was a man that he worked with in the general electric plant near in the town near his home there and this man had attempted to engage bob in discussions of ufo several times and bob wasn't really interested in the subject But he's set and listened and He didn't pay much attention to the guy until now. He's driving the car At the rendezvous time. He got in a car with him and he drove out of the out of town and into a wooded area where They came on this other car that was that ported here from corondor They parked the plymouth in the trees right back in out of sight there Got in the corindian car and went to the underground base for the first visit at the underground base Here's another Pickup point this time. He was picked up and taken to this place in the in the corindian car They left the corindian car and got into a larger craft and went elsewhere This is a diagram of The 60 foot diameter spacecraft These are unmanned discs here that are used for remote control observations aboard the craft and This little disc here are more remote monitors Like these that they launch and control from the control panel inside here and they do all kinds of Surveillance and observational work with these monitor discs that are very sophisticated can do a lot of things Here's a diagram Of a larger craft this craft is 155 feet in diameter And here we see some bigger discs That uh Are about the size of the other disc we just looked at that carry monitors the bigger discs are launched and recovered from this uh 150 foot diameter disc craft disc shaped craft That carried a crew of about 60 people I've ordered that one Now there's uh All kinds of facilities here the latrine facilities the dining facilities everything's all Illustrated in here and it's in the book that I've published in e-book format All everything you see here is published in e-book format And you can bring it up on your screen make it as big as you want to read the letters It's a lot larger to like you look look at the details and the shape and its construction there this next one Is a much bigger craft This craft I believe is on the order of 250 it's a sphere About 250 feet in diameter. I believe let me Get back here to my my notes See if I can find this the details I had on it I'd like to give you the uh I should have been turning these Carefully as I went but uh now I believe I'm getting back to her I want to be That's the hundred and fifty five Before that was a hundred and fifty five foot diameter disc here. We are the 400 foot diameter alliance craft spc 12 is what they called it. I don't know what that means Bob was given printed guidebooks For this ship so he could tell where he was and find his way around Which he was allowed to keep the guidebooks were printed in corendian, but by now They have taught him to read corendian script And he found an interesting thing he found that when he was in the underground base in massachusetts That all the signs in the underground base were lettered in english and he asked Orival his escort Why the english signs he said well we're in an english speaking country And all of our employees here all of the people that work here Are trained in english and they go out and come back And uh, they need to know the language and so this is just to Keep it all current they said that that they learned our languages a long time ago With shortly it took them like two weeks to learn the first language and they chose english Because that seemed to be spoken more prominently In what appeared to be the country with the most advanced technical Information available We lost the slide again. The machine back there is not doing too well. There's a picture of Orival's space car On the top I've lost part of it in the screen here And this is the garments that they wear in the underground base facility and also In the the disc shaped craft when they come to visit they Their earth style garments, but they this is not what they wear when they come out And mixed in society they wear clothes that they bought in clothing stores just like we wear But this is a comfortable kind of a uniform that they wear In their corendian base facilities And there's a the man and here's a woman If you didn't know it This is the diagram of the alliance of planets And we get much I got a lot of papers up here. I have to keep shuffling just to keep up with where we are. There we go A diagram of the alliance of planets The top division there The alliance uh Was formed with 150 planets Joined in a dream that had been been Flourishing for centuries the name has long since been called the united world's alliance But the great visions of our founders are as fresh today as they were in that hallowed place Where they were formed 650 years ago of near time Which has become a shrine that every alliance citizen tries to visit at least once in his lifetime Earlier, I say this is the corendian addressing Bob Renaud Earlier, I stated that the present count of the alliance world was about 740,000 Although that is the full number of the uaw is it is now split into two in the five major divisions Of which corendors has about 143,000 planets It's one of 143 thousand planets in its division of the alliance of planets This segmenting was made necessary by the sheer enormity of the task of attempting to govern so many worlds under one Roof the process of partitioning took place over a period of four years and it was ended about September 19th of 1986 of your time the system of government that I will Now it came out of that conclave carried out At this of this mammoth operation at that time the council of elders The top line on the chart there The council of elders is still the official ruling body of the full alliance now This is not ruled by edict. It's ruled by Recommendation a council Deliberates on problems and makes recommendations and they either follow it or they don't but They usually follow it because that's usually the best course of action the council is made up of the wisest men In their society and each Unit of the society picks the wisest men they have to participate in the levels going up to the senior councils The kind of a government, but it's not elective And it's not It doesn't it doesn't issue mandates There are five sub councils that handle the matters within their respective divisions In turn these are subdivided into sector councils that each control about 10 000 planets in a specific region of space these are given These are again segmented into sub sectors the lowest level of the official alliance hierarchy Each of them handles the affairs of about 100 worlds in space post facial proximity This basic diagram illustrates the new format. This is adopted in 1988 So the council masters up there has five divisions of 143 000 each The sub council down here Of masters also has five sub councils within their divisions and the sector council Has about 10 000 planets in each specific sector And those are subdivided into Groups of 100 worlds And these are real the masters that we're talking about are The wisest people that they have in their society. They're they're they're spiritual people they They achieve mastership by knowing more than anybody else And because they're all telepathic this is easily recognized and so When a recommendation is made by a senior master it usually is followed because It's the best course of action that could be decided anyway And we'll result in the we'll get the best result So now where is exactly where is core indoor? This is our tourist And about two finger lengths finger width North north east of our tourist as you look at it in a night sky Right in there someplace at the head of the arrow is a star that you can just barely see it's It's a finest magnitude on the star charts is just a tiny little dot And that's their sun corina. We don't even number it on our charts it's uh And their sun has several planets. They come The koreans come from the third planet. We're going to that a little bit more later But there's the star chart from the start the big star chart Astronomical star chart used by astronomers So the next thing we have here is probably going to be difficult for you to read is A list of koreandian scientists that have been working In one relationship or another with bob renoud. He's he's met them all And they represent for instance just just to give you some idea Verne ferro the top one works in anthropo dynamic anthropo dynamics the other two all do also Joomlaar the fourth one down works in chemistry and the next one does Jerry Saul the electronics engineer helped bob renoud do some modifications on his equipment Verne pollen under that is a genetic biologist All he saw and after that is a genetic biologist sencor as a linguist They can learn languages in about two weeks any language Orival is a mathematician He was the principal contact with bob renoud. Orival is the one that picked him up and Escorted him around the various facilities. They took him to sea But he was a mathematician Linari down in the Lower middle Is a psychologist. She was the first voice that contacted him over the radio And he maintained a constant contact with linari whenever he was being escorted Around the koreandian facilities. She accompanied or ival and and together they showed him around They introduced him to people They demonstrated things for him in their parent in their koreandian society and their base facilities here on this planet Below the break and the names there is han kim A sociologist Before below him are also sociologists below them the last four names are Arie Lawn is a teratologist And the rest are the other four are teratologists teratologists are scientists that study earth The particular studies of earth This next chart Which you can't probably can't read either is the crew Of the spc-12 which is the big 400 foot diameter sphere that he was shown about given a a manual Guide in koreandian language how to get around there. They let him keep the guide. By the way, he has still has it And the crew was made up of The top one is an analyst ester lori Then the captain aline l drawn he met him several times as the co-captain. He only met once Communications officer ken roy helped him do some work on his gear also There were console operators three of them And other three engineers a flight engineer more mathematicians and an astrological officer a navigator The last group is masters In the governmental hierarchy the masters that he met At one time or another In the uppercase letters are the elder masters and lowercase Letters are just masters the elder masters are elected by the conclave of masters because of their They they rise to a level of superior knowledge And there are not very many of them Now the They give you an idea of what the masters are and what they do they all have specializations also that first one on the top there is kren lore He's from arcturia arcturia Is one it's a headquarters planet for the alliance many records are kept there and he frequently met kren lore Akim vestra was from corondar akim vestra From corondar corondar had primary responsibility for the earth operations going on here by the corandians Then there was more from corandian corondar Okay Here's the last group our miscellaneous personality met along the way and Just to characterize them a little bit. There was the first one arctodoric was a replacement For all this is interesting arctodoric A time came when they wanted to take bob to view Something that was going to take more than one day Which is mean means he's gonna have to give a vacation from his job or maybe lose it His parents who he's carefully kept this his contacts from his parents because he knew that they would be highly disturbed That they knew what he was doing between the hours of midnight and morning So he never told them He had a pet dog to slept on his on his bed put it in his bed and he He didn't have time to tell his employers So For that pickup they brought the krenjans brought another man With them and introduced him to bob, but he looked just like bob like a twin And they said this is arctodoric. He will replace you while we're gone. He has been carefully prepared to Use your habits and mannerisms speak even your voice And work your job at the at general electric plant. Nobody will know the difference And they left arctodoric He was dressed in the same kind of clothes that bob was good was wearing And he went into the house into bob's basement room and went to bed bob went with uh Orival and the rest of the team on the mission they were taking him on at the time I don't see any other particular names of interest there There here's one There in sen was a venusian Working with the korendians that they had picked up Who was from a venusian mission on the moon that was observing earth now They showed Bob their language and and gave him a language course when he learned to speak kore and read korendian And i'll i've got Some symbols here to show you here's a what the korendian language looked like these are punctuation symbols the third column over right Right about here. Those are korendian punctuation marks and their equivalents are Shown out here in this column the first one for example is example is a period And the second one is a comma the third one is a hyphen the fourth one is a colon and so forth But they had a very well Developed language system as as well developed as english or any of the other earth languages and in some instances It was even more developed and conveyed more knowledge in the words than we than we know and use here's another page on the korendian language all of this by the way is in the little mini cd Where you can bring them up and look at them in great detail later if you're interested these show a sentence Right here written in korendian language Which says It's a phrase. It was frequently used as they were departing. They'd say va ilus inus ol noi unir And that meant going to light and until next we meet And this shows korendian symbols And these are galinguan symbols now the linguists korendian linguists explained That in the alliance of worlds the hundreds even thousands of worlds in the alliance In this particular sector of space there are two major Interplanetary languages One is galinguan And the other is Is uh, oh boy forgot it galinguan and solix mal Solix mal was the language system was described by george hot williamson in his books other tongues other flesh He never mentioned anything. Yes. He did mention galinguan in his book too, but he didn't explain anything on it this The korendians explained that the korendian language language was derived from galinguan and that in The foundation of languages that these two major language systems Have many derivatives. It's like On earth many languages are derived from latin one might say that latin Was a base language for earth languages And in that same sense galinguan was a base language for many planetary languages within the The alliance of planet system And solix mal was the basic language of another federation of planets in the system There incidentally where it was a parallel group Parallel to the alliance of planets that had Roughly the same number Of planets and they're intermixed with the alliance planets and they They're allied in what they call a There's the alliance of planets and the slip of mind Alliance and confederation of planets the confederation of planets is something like the alliance of planets that Does it has the same kind of a governing system? and similar but the confederation of planets uses another base language system Than galinguan. I don't have anything on that here But those two are present all over our neighboring our sector of the galaxy galinguan The other one and solix mal so When I was studying the Languages there. I should have had that up. I was talking about it Here is While I was doing this I discovered another book that was written about bob renoud apart from What gabriel green was publishing and this was a book that was written by john dean Who wrote and he was pretty well known for his Authorship of flying saucers and the scriptures a book that he had written before this And john w dean Hearing of bob's renoud's context made direct contact with him and began a long Correspondence with bob about the context with the corendians and their intentions This was welcomed by bob as one of the few with whom serious interest With serious interest in intentions about his spectacular case and a regular and frequent communication developed between bob and john dean john asked many questions got many answers Including a description of the corendian language and a table of other stars with planets in our vicinity of our melky way this part we will share some of the profound information revealed by to bob renoud For john dean at john deans request by the corendians themselves As originally published in john deans book flying saucers close up And here is that book for those of you that have a copy of it. I don't see the title on the top I don't know why we don't have that let me back up That should have had flying saucers closer by john w dean That little picture was in the middle of the page and this is amazing because The slide was photographed from this page And you see we lost all the writing on the slide and tell me how that could be done gremlins, yeah So john dean asked a lot of questions he was very interested in Details that gabriel green didn't get About for example about the first moon trip and bob had pretty much terminated his Furnishing of information to gabriel green by the time he took the first trip to the moon And this is a scene painted by a staff artist for the Flying saucers close up book you just the cover. I tried to show you and this shows Bob renoud and a woman from the control center at on the moon astralauri riding Moon scooters you notice they're wheelless and they're in Low gravity or low pressure suit for Traveling around on the surface of the moon shows the Earth there painted into the scene in the In its proper perspective So here now then is the book Flying saucers and the scriptures published by john Dean some of you may even have that book in your in your collections Not a very big book, but it was a discussion of the biblical reports of contact with extraterrestrial beings and an analysis of them and an attempt to explain them by john dean Before these contacts began now john dean Asking about the The language was the one that that persuaded bob to get the the description of the language and the language Presentations there was a lot more to it by the way just those three pages only showed the punctuation and and a phrase But he got a a system of description of the language and how to speak vocabulary words also and how to phrase make phrases so Not satisfied with that much john dean started pressuring bob renoud to get a list of the inhabited planets in our near space So bob asked the corendians to what they could do They said they would get their scientists their astronomers to prepare such a list And john dean was writing his book That you just saw flying saucers closed up with a large section on bob renoud and the publisher was pushing him now They get the rest of his information in And he still had not received the list of planets That he'd asked for and he was delaying The printing until he could get the list. He was pushing bob to get it bob was trying to hustle the corandians to get the list to john dean and And he gave john gave them john dean's address and when the corandians Prepared the list to transmit it instead of Delivering it to bob to be delivered to john dean. They're trying to speed it up by sending an ms r a from the earth base in massachusetts With the list to go out and mail it to john dean directly which they did And the package arrived john dean looked at and he thought gee this is just what I look for what I asked for And I I'll send it right off to the publisher. I don't have time to do anything with it So that's what went to the publisher so the list included And this is the beginning of That chapter on the other planets in john dean's book And i'll read the the prelude here because it's kind of important the list will include Those planets among the 75 brightest stars known to earth astronomers The listings will be as follows the stars astronomical destination designation as used by astronomers Such as gamma booties its common name is used by the Alliance in this chart, which is nearly always the the word used by the inhabitants if any of its planets It's the last register number its distance from us in light years first and light years That is accurate to within one light year and further data on these stars may be found in any comprehensive astronomy textbook or book of tables So these stars the 75 stars are all listed in our astronomy books and they're all bright enough to be seen with the naked eye The planets will be listed in their orbital order from the innermost planet out And the names will be Those used by the inhabitants if any otherwise names used commonly by the last to designate them will be shown Inhabitation codes include un uninhabited col colonized i and d indigenous population in billions of inhabitants Length of day and hours to one tenth that's in earth hours diameter and miles length of years in earth years And the Allegiance whether it's an alliance planet or a confederation planet And there is a third federation here. It's a cal ran federation that is in opposition to the first two And they don't allow anything to be released to the alliance and the and confederation planet so the Cal ran empire is quite different and we We find them in opposition to Both the alliance and the confederation and they will turn up in later on as we go here This is not to be considered a comprehensive list of planets of the alliance, but rather intended to acquaint the readers with only those nearby stars easily visible without telescopes now the first one is Connist alpha conus majoris which is serious that's this group right here. There's the name It's Eight light years distant from us 8.8 light years distant from us the first one on the list there periton is colonized His population is 42 hundreds of a billion. That's probably four million two hundred thousand The length of the day is 27 hours and not 27 and 19 hours of earth time The diameter of the planet is 5.709 million miles Its comparative year is 64 percent of our year And it belongs to the alliance of planets The second one down here Is Boudin It's colonized Its population in billions as 1.6 billion people The length of the day is 19.3 hours The diameter is 6,320 miles Its comparative year length is 1.94 almost two of our years And it belongs to the omega confederation now the omega confederation is going to come up again a little bit later It's the omega headquarters by the way Then the next one Below that does not have an indigenous Does not is not populated And doesn't have any in the oh it is populated But only with indigenous an indigenous population that hasn't looked out from its planet yet is still stuck on the planet And the next one below that also is inhabited But the inhabitants uh It's indigenous inhabitants not colonized We're either the alliance or the confederation and doesn't belong to the omega the third one also Then the fourth one vector. Well, it's about this six to seven vector and Like I'll get a little there right in there Our two planets That are both colonized The first one it has a population of 1.96 billion Its length of day is 31.5 hours The diameter is 2.88 2,880 miles Comparative length of year is 7.45 of our years And it belongs to the confederation of planets the The other besides the alliance in our area and the one below it also belongs to the confederation the Next one is uh In serious just a few comments. We're not going to do all of these, but I'm just going to show some examples here serious by the way this Let me back up to it We had here this this is serious here And it has 12 planets on the list there nine are occupied And keldan the one uh the third one down as I said before is the omega headquarters The omegans are apart from the alliance and the confederation The first one of serious Is the brightest star in the northern sky Peritum The top one right there Has a population of 40 42 hundredths of a billion that's four million two hundred thousand It's a research planet for high temperature equipment among other things There's another one Of import here. It's damat Which is the fourth one down right there And damat has a population of 4.9 billion Population it's the fourth planet out from the sun And it's a major military system for the atlantic for the alliance And the rest go on from there. So we won't go in there's There's a quite a bit more we won't go into that At the moment here You can come back to it if he anybody really wants to Be sure we get some more stuff covered here. Okay, here's a Here's a good one Let me buzz down here A little ways These are all star charts furnished by the corindians listing major stars And the planets orbiting them They're all in the little e-book So you can study them in detail if you like I don't know why we got a break. We're getting some dropouts Okay, that's the last of the list which shows A summary there if I can find my summary card here It shows the 25 most important planets Seven this it showed that shows that 75 of the brightest stars of the naked eye were listed 15 only 15 of the 75 Have no planets now our astronomers are having a little bit trouble of trouble finding planets and they believe that If we find another star with planets, we're going to be lucky It may tend to prove that there could be somebody else besides us In this whole vast universe the corindians see That about 90 percent or more of All stars have planets families of planets Of the 75 that they listed for us only 15 have no planets 252 are of the planets are inhabited And 165 of those known planets are not inhabited There are 417 total planets in the 75 star system Corridor is the third planet out From the star corina Got a lot of papers up here. There's a problem There's a map of corridor Again, it's uh Seen beyond our tourists. It's 411 light years from earth It's the third planet out from its star corina The capital city is right in here. It's rel city is the capital for the planet It's uh Over three times the size of earth uh It's the top scientific planet of the alliance one of the best in our galaxy It's the home of n d w a and major industries the major city is Burrell city the uh It has More land mass for water than we have it has about 60 percent land mass Where ours is probably less than 30 percent 35 percent It's a bigger planet three times the size of ours it has uh It has a stronger Gravity it's Although the planet is three times the size of ours. It only has 3.2 times our gravity Which is quite a bit for us. They say that an earth human Standing on the surface of mars Of corridor if he fell down he's likely to break bones And if he stood in our coridian rainstorm, he'd be pelted to death by the raindrops So we can't visit corridor in our earth bodies Very easily so They explain to bob that all planets That have evolved Life forms and most as we see from the listing here most of them do and are inhabited so life forms have evolved there that all planets Are different from each other. They're like the leaves of a tree or snowflakes There are no two planets identical And the conditions on There's no identical conditions on two planets. And so The life form that evolves the archetypical life form that evolves on the planet Is it evolves peculiar to the conditions of that particular planet? And for them to go to another planet sometimes it's too inhospitable for Anybody to make the trip elsewhere So they discovered that In the process that they use of coming here they They use a something like a teleportation process Where they step into a cabinet on corridor And step out of a cabinet at the receiving station in the in the base here before they had a base here They had to project the base To this planet and receive it at the projected base And that was difficult because it limited what could be transmitted But they transmitted enough to build a proper receiving port on on earth And then they began to teleport their equipment and people here directly Now they said they told bob renad. They said we don't look Exactly like you in our native state that if you could see us As we live on corridor you would probably think we're ugly As a matter of fact, we think you're ugly too when we look at you But bob always saw those visitors as the women were extremely beautiful. There were no fat ones. No skinny ones They were all pretty well stacked. The men were good looking strong hunks Handsome and he thought they must have a plant of the beautiful people there And now the corringes are explaining to them when they come here They are teleported here and when they're received at the teleport station here their atoms are assembled On the earth archetypical form. It's an our ideal form for earth In earth chemistry and so they do look handsome. They we don't archetypically visualize Triple people disease people So they were explaining to him what his body would look like when they took him to corridor They said the reverse is true when you go there. We have an archetypical form. Oh, we only got two minutes left and When you get there you're they said your body Will look like this and they showed him an image The image that showed him was a little bit shorter than he stood It had very strong neck muscles had a Heavy skull strong nest muscles strong muscular frame Stalky torso and legs to stand at increased gravity there and it had a The body and breathe gas with less a richer atmosphere than ours was not normal for it Ours was a little weak for the corringes when they come here and they take a Takes the time for them to adjust to acclimatize to our Our less rich oxygen atmosphere here and So they invited they actually They invited bob to come there now when I started this And I bob called bob brown says what would you speak on? I said well from my age, I'd like to look back I think I have pretty good hindsight now and I know that we threw out some very important cases I'd like to talk about the bob renown case so he said okay And so when I started doing the research on he put that in a bulletin by the way He put it out on his website that I was going to talk about corondar In about three weeks ago. I received an email And I've been looking for bob renown for 30 years Everywhere he just disappeared from site all together and I couldn't find him and Now I get an email letter from bob renown And he said that it had been his practice To search the web and the enet or any references to corondar periodically for the last 50 years Grace seldom found anything but he suddenly hit got a hit He found corondar mentioned and it was going to be discussed at this conference here at this time And I was going to be the speaker and he gave my Email address He looked me up in the web and he got my web page which gave him the email address He sent me an email letter and he said I I see you're going to talk about my case. He said, you know, I haven't been putting anything out on it He said it's not really for public consumption. He says they don't understand takes too long to educate them He said I don't mind if you want to talk about the case, but he said The case is still going on. You know, I said no, I didn't know that He said I have had contacts ever since I terminated the arrangements with Gabriel green. He said I gave some information to John Dean and after that, I just stopped sending information out to anybody But he said I've been making notes all this time. He said I have hundreds of pages of notes Would you like to have some I said, oh, I I sure would Two or three days later. I received a big cd in the mail from Bob Renau with 400 pages Of new information contact notes on his contacts since then he'd been to the moon twice morning He'd been to the planet Corridor several times Working there and operating there in his Corridian body when he steps out of the Teleportation cabinet in Corridor. He's in his Corridian body when he comes back here. He's in his earth body and he he said I have Done a little writing on the moon trip But he said I have written nothing on my trips to Corridor because they suggested I not do so He said the first one was a business trip And the next one was a recreational trip. He said I could probably Describe the recreational trip, but he says I have never written it up And he's had a couple more trips since then and they welcome him when he gets there as an old friend Many of his Contemporaries are still there. They live an average of a thousand years Time's up. They live an average of a thousand years Whereas we live shorter lives So most of the people that he interacted with are still there or still here really still have their bases here. There's one Underground in massachusetts one off the coast of san diego underwater one in the south atlantic And they have some bases in other countries now also and speak the other languages where their Expeditionary teams happen to be They also have by the way they have prepared what they call Agents of theirs, but there are people that have been especially trained and conditioned to live here that move out Into our earth society and are maneuvered in To positions of semi-authority and they said they have some of their agents are in the pentagon Some are in the white house some are in congress some are in the senate He said they have successfully infiltrated our population to a great degree as well as the governmental bodies of russian they said it's That the collapse of the russian import and the close of the cold war Is due to in some extent to the contribution of our agents working internally and quietly To tamp things down and he said we are still trying to keep things a little better organized on your planet With that i'll have to give up because i'm over time and i thank you for your kind attention and i I hope that's been informative Thank you bob. Thank you folks Thanks wendell Okay. Yeah, yeah Give it up for wendell The one and only All right, we will uh, keep this break as short as humanly possible and hopefully that'll just be 12 minutes 15 minutes Maximum for tape changes and we're going to start right up We're going to be rolling Stand by