 So I make a lot of mistakes in my videos, you know I make a ton of mistakes on camera and most of the time those mistakes are just little mistakes innocuous mistakes, right? The mistakes that don't really matter so I don't take the time to Re-take a clip, you know because making these videos as a lengthy process So unless it's something that I really need to go back and address, you know Most of the time I just leave the little tiny mistakes in but the other day I made a pretty big mistake on camera and I needed to go back and address it today and It revolves around the video. I made just a few days ago about nitrics. So nitrics is a Debian based Linux distribution It's a really interesting Debian based Linux distribution because it has its own customized Plasma desktop environment it uses a lot of Maui kit programs rather than the traditional KDE programs and many of its default programs are actually Installed as app images and that's really kind of nitrics is claimed to fame is the fact that it uses app images out of the box Now I just said that nitrics is a Debian based Linux distribution, which is what it actually is well on camera the other day I had made the mistake of saying that nitrics is based on both Debian and Ubuntu and I Even when I said it I knew that doesn't sound right because I've actually done videos about nitrics in the past And I was pretty sure nitrics was strictly a Debian based distribution. I know I've said that in the past So the other day I said it's based on both Debian and Ubuntu because I went to distro watch right before making that video and I looked up the nitrics distro watch page and According to distro watch it is based on Debian unstable the Debian Sid branch and Ubuntu LTS Which when I read that I thought well dang I guess it must be based on both of them even though reading that Even before I said it on camera. I thought that's weird Why would you pull from both Debian unstable and Ubuntu LTS? Which is based on Debian stable because wouldn't you have you know some conflicting things going on so even reading this It didn't make much sense, but I assumed that the distro watch guys did their homework and that they were correct So on camera I said nitrics is based on both Debian and Ubuntu and immediately I got several people in the comments saying no DT that's wrong That's just some misinformation spread by distro watch and the nitrics guys are not happy about it And there's actually been some legit journalism Done on this topic because a couple of weeks ago over at its false calm You know they had this article written about nitrics Linux is demanding an apology from distro watch so the story here is that the maintainer of nitrics is a fellow named Yuri Herrera and He of course created nitrics, so obviously he knows what nitrics is actually based on right So he saw the distro watch page about nitrics being based on Debian and Ubuntu So he reached out to distro watch and said hey, that's not factual. We're actually just basing off of Debian We don't actually base off Ubuntu They do build their ISOs with some tools from Ubuntu, but they don't actually like pull Packages from Ubuntu or anything like that, so he he tried to correct that misinformation there and They basically ignored him There was a guy named Jesse Smith that works at distro watch and he refuses to change that Particular information on that page and even on Twitter. He is telling people confirmed nitrics is based on Ubuntu 2004 and pulls from multiple Ubuntu repositories not sure why they keep lying about this on Twitter and their website So he's actually accusing the nitrics team of lying to people about what their distribution is based on Why? Why would the nitrics team lie about what they base their distribution on like what is their gain and why is this guy this? Journalist over at distro watch. Why is he? Picking this fight. I mean we've got a guy that writes for distro watch And we got the lead maintainer of nitrics and they're both saying that nitrics is based off of different distributions Which one should I believe? I'm gonna believe the guy that actually created the dang Linux distribution I'm not gonna You know just because some guy that works at distro watch tweeted it, you know that doesn't make it so now the complaints from the Lead maintainer of nitrics goes beyond just you know that they're factually incorrect about what nitrics bases off of Yuri Herrera goes on to write quote because of this We make the request publicly that you and your staff amend the erroneous information that you display on your website about our product Including logos names links descriptions and versions additionally We demand an apology from you and the staff member responsible for the incident that finally led to this open letter Our request is non-negotiable, and we will not accept anything less for our demand So this article from its false is actually the reason they wrote this is because the nitrics team posted an open letter over at the nitrics website, which is nxos.org So the the segment I had just read from the its false article where Yuri was demanding an apology and he wants them to correct Misinformation about names links descriptions and versions. I did notice that on distro watch. It's very weird because They just had a new version nitrics did a couple of days ago 1.4 I believe was the new version and I know they had had a new version not Three or four months before of that because people had asked me to take a look at it And I didn't but they've had a lot of recent releases But according to distro watch the last release announcement that they have is from december 2018 nitrics 1.1.2 Why are they not keeping up to date with the nitrics release announcements? Now, I'm assuming that they can only keep up to date with release announcements if somebody lets them know But obviously they've been in recent contact with Yuri about You know what the distribution is based off of and he specifically says The version numbers are also not right as far as releases and what version they're currently on. Why I don't understand It's almost like the distro watch guys are purposely Trying to spread some misinformation about nitrics Like they have a personal vendetta against maybe Yuri and the nitrics team So many of you guys know I've I've never been a fan of distro watch dot com the website I hate their top 100 page hit ranking list because they know that that is not really a representation of linux distro popularity I mean they kind of admit that on their website But you got to dig a little bit to understand that it's really just for fun and it's not an actual representation of distro popularity But they know that the way they present it does trick a lot of people Including linux journalists because some linux journalists even quote the distro watch rankings as you know actual metric that measures linux popularity So I really hate that distro watch their their website focuses so much on those page hit rankings You know so much of the reason so many people know about distro watch is because of those page hit rankings so it's kind of a It's almost a sham really the whole website is just based on falsed But many people are like hey dt. I know the page hit rankings suck But distro watch actually has good news articles like their release announcements. You keep up to date on what's being released You know you go to the individual distro pages and you get accurate information. Well apparently not I mean when you have a distro maintainer and nitrics is not a Just a mom and pop distribution that just appeared yesterday It's been around for a number of years and they're doing really good work I think there's an actual corporation behind it. You know like it's got that's got some money behind it It's not something that's just going to disappear tomorrow and distro watch can't even Display accurate information such as what it's based off of or what's what's the current version number I mean they haven't had a release announcement in three years about nitrics. Why is that? I suspect a lot of it has to do with personalities this jesse smith guy that's complaining about it on on twitter He doesn't seem like he's a pleasant fellow I mean if this is the kind of stuff that you want to fight about you know What somebody is basing their distribution off of may or may not be basing their distribution off of even though the Maintainer is actually telling you that you're wrong Uh, he doesn't seem like a very pleasant guy. Uh, urie herera the maintainer of nitrics I I don't know much about him But maybe he isn't the most pleasant person to talk to either And maybe because of the conversations urie and jesse have had maybe they're just Butting heads a little bit because this open letter. I will say while I completely support urie and the nitrics team I actually think distro watch absolutely needs to reflect The right information on the nitrics distro watch page And I do actually think they need to apologize to the nitrics team For you know having all of this be incorrect for so long Even though nitrics has actually asked them on multiple occasions to change it I think distro watch needs to change it. I think they need to do an official apology to nitrics But I do think urie this letter this open letter is kind of abrasive I mean he basically demands an apology and he demands an apology specifically from the guy That started all of this which is jesse smith who's not even like the owner of distro watch, right? He's just a guy. I think that that writes for distro watch. So this open letter Comes across as a little angry so You know sometimes Again, I think people get they let their emotions get the best of them But in this case You know emotions aside distro watch They've been doing a lot of crazy shenanigans for a number of years now And and when I saw this the other day I was actually kind of disappointed in myself because when I read that That page of saying it was based on dibby and annaboon too. I actually in the back of my mind I told myself that doesn't sound right But anyway when I went to record the video I said it and then immediately people You know jumped on me not jumped on me in an angry way But you know they were trying to correct me which I appreciate those people for letting me know That's why I wanted to make the video today because I think more people Need to know that you can't trust a lot of the Linux publications out there the linux journalism that's out there And I've been complaining about distro watch for a number of years and a lot of people will come back and Man dt you you're you're crazy. I don't know what your problem with distro watch is Well, here's a perfect example of some of my problems with distro watch now before I go I need to thank a few special people. I need to thank the producers of this episode I need to thank absy dallas gay blue michael allen akami archvijay 30 chuck david the other david dylan gregaray Lewis paul polytech scott steven sminwest and willy they are the producers of this episode without these guys This episode you just watched it would not have been possible The show is also brought to you by each and every one of these ladies and gentlemen as well all these names You're seeing on the screen right now. These are all my supporters over on patreon because without you guys the community I couldn't do what I do if you'd like to support my work look for distro tube over on patreon. All right guys peace Why the hell would anybody lie about what their distributions based on?