 I'm Naseem Chauhan. I'm with Cold Fields Limited, which is a coal mining company. It's based in South Africa with operations in Ghana, Australia, Peru and South Africa. I look ahead of sustainable development or sustainability for the group, providing support, strategy, guidance to the different operations in those countries that we operate in. Well, the opportunity to be in a forum with interested parties from different backgrounds focused on issues of common interest, which is the ASM dialogue. And it's particularly exciting that a topic like this is being addressed while the gold price is not on the run when tensions are high and reactive approaches are being applied to address the issue. So while the gold price is down, the issues are a bit muted on ASM, which allows us opportunity to take a slightly different approach in terms of how we address the opportunities as well as the risks around ASM to large-scale mining operations and to work and use the opportunity and space to work with people in the space, which can be done with greater impact than when you are chasing a target to address a crisis. Given that it's a multi-stakeholder dialogue environment, you have the opportunity to understand fairly in detail how the other actors or the other players actually work in the space, especially from intergovernmental forums, the NGOs, the academia. And I think that understanding through this process understands the space that we should be occupying rather than the space that we are forced to occupy with this crisis. I think the ability to be able to express one's views personally rather than the mandate that one is given for the common objective. And I think that has been working pretty well here, both in session and outside of sessions. People are free to share information and engage in a common objective on how to get the best societal impact out of the ASM channel. It certainly wasn't top of mind on which of the priority issues were because I don't think we had applied our minds in a setting like this to be able to understand the full suite of issues. But certainly for me, the issues around the government engagement is pretty crucial. It's a societal impact and society votes these governments in to be able to look at the interest of the broader society. And in the countries that we work, the major issues are around poverty alleviations. They are around unemployment and inequality. So, whilst we may not get the full leadership and proactiveness out of government, they play a pretty key role. And the issue around formalization of ASM was something that I would have expected to have been pretty high on the agenda. I think it may not be the broad views of other stakeholders. But I think the formalization is not an end. It's more a means to an end. And different countries and different regions operate in different levels of maturity, dynamics, culture. So none of them will be the same. So what would come out pretty strongly for me is the ability to organize ASM pretty innovatively as they did in Mongolia and possibly in other areas like Ethiopia is how we get a collective voice out of, in some instances, a very fragmented base of ASM. So one can more meaningfully engage if there is a collective and there is greater transparency and benefit to the communities.