 We on Boss Talk 101, here we gon' talk, we gon' have fun. Check it out, man, it's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E-C-E-O. It's your boy, Monty Moses, by the way, and we creating content every damn day. Check it out, man, we here today, man, with a known legend, man, a guy that you guys don't, he don't need no introduction, man. It's going down, man, one of the coldest dudes I know, man, hey, been doing this, did this when nobody else was doing it, a marketing genius. It's your boy, man, Mike Jones. Hey. What's up, what's up? Man, how you doing, how you doing, man? Save, man, just, just, hey, man, swaggering out, just, hey, man, appreciate you for coming on the show, man. Boss Talk 101, man, yes, sir. So, man, I got a lot of questions for you, man. Woo, man, just the thing that I always often wondered, man, I was like, this dude, man, when marketing wasn't even popular, when dudes wasn't even doing it, you was doing it. And it tripped me out on, I think it was on tip and on post, and you said, you said that, you know what, first round picks coming, who is Mike Jones coming, and then you said, back then on it, I'm trying to figure out, did you really plan all that prophetically, or did you have it laid out like that? It was one, two, three, so I'm gonna break it down to you like, before that song, if you go back and listen to my mixtapes, like Ballin' on the Ground, that came out in 2003, so a quarter million underground. All that was already instrumental, my album, who is Mike Jones coming soon, my album, who is Mike Jones coming soon, my album, who is Mike Jones coming soon, every song. Let me tell you something. Every song, right or wrong? Every song. So it was institutionalizing me, once it's something on my heart and on my mind, that's the foundation. Everything else, I ain't making no sense to me. Like, I know Mike Jones and I know what I'm rapping. That's all I need. You know what I'm saying? I don't need, you flex, I don't need the clout, I don't need none of that. So I seen it with our Instagram, it worked for me. Bro, you was doing it before that. Right, so. And the thing I trip out of it's like, okay, this guy's either prophetic or what, cause when I look back hindsight, and I'm looking at it, I'm like, how the heck this dude knew that and nobody else was doing it. Nobody else wasn't doing that, bro. Let me give you, before we got GPS, right? If you say you from the ghost somewhere and you jumping your car, you ain't gonna stop till you get somewhere. For sure. Right? It could be different people that's trying to call you and distract you and, but if you focus, I gotta go knock that out. Then I'ma come back and get you on the way, coming back in. Some people just get deterred and, a call or throw them off. Yeah, yeah. Oh, a throw them off. And you forgot about the route. You forgot about the focus. And even though GPS is here, you still forgot about the route, forgot about the focus. So back then, I never forgot about the route, forgot about the focus. So every fucking song. You killed it. I'ma make sure that you know this. And you said it two or three times. It wasn't no one time. And people used to say, man, he a gimmick. He say the same shit over and over. No, no, no. I want you to understand. You killed it. Now in 2020, they do it so much. They all do it, but that's why I be sad. I say, man, I was telling my boy early this morning, I said, you know, they got that whole movement from him. And the credit don't really come like it should. Yeah, they want to, but it's cool. Because I know the old G's know. See, because the old G's is the one who heard it. Everybody that's around my age, it's around my time. We seen it when there wasn't no IG for us to see it. Just imagine if what happened with George Floyd happened back in 03. Do you think he would have got that type of coverage because we didn't have Instagram? We didn't have where he could do it. It wouldn't be seen. So time and it's everything, you feel me? So for that to be revolutionary with the George Floyd, we needed and had to have computers, Instagram, everybody connecting all over the place. And then it's all in London and in this world. So every 10 years, every five years, stuff just get bigger and technology just get better. Let me ask you another thing. So what about the number? I see you got the number back. You called me, you tripped me out. I said, this nigga got this number back and everybody know the number. Yeah, they gon' change. How did you accomplish that? And how did you, I mean, how did you, cause you just got it back, right? Well, yeah, I got it back a few months ago. A few months ago. Okay. I know it left. I guess you can tell me a little bit about how you got it taken away, but then I want you to bring me back into how you got it back. Well, I'ma go, I'ma break it all into a capsule. Right? So the whole reason for me doing the number, like I had a number, another number at first, it was 281-455-1858. Okay. I used to get that number, it was a single or wireless. Okay. And at that time, you know, they was high. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, hell yeah, I had it. I had it. People in my, you know. In old school, I had it. So hustler, gotta have it. 70, 80 cents a minute type thing. I used to tell my wife, we been around for 20 years. I said, look, the ministers, we got into it about the minutes. The minutes is up. You know, you over the minutes. I was paying $3,000 a month. Yeah. Just to keep what I was doing as an experiment at the time. Okay. I didn't have Instagram. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was cosign my move. But you killed it by making it. I didn't have TikTok to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was just straight. You straightened out. But the thing was, you were the only one doing it. But see, I was all alone. But see, at the time, it was good because I was by myself. There was nobody else that's, oh, you trying to do it too? No, nobody. It was like you were eight of us trying to do it all at the same time. No, y'all was doing it all at the same time. Yeah. I was on my own thing. And it go back documented, oh, two, oh, three, oh, four. It's documented. Oh, five. So back to what I was saying, I had another number. Single or wild. Yeah. It was killing me. I was happy to get on that microphone and tell the fans, hey, man, y'all, holla at me, two, eight, one, four, five, five, one, five, eight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why y'all was giving out your number? Well, cause some people book and fake my tone shows. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I gotta keep my brand right, so I'm gonna give you my number cause I ain't giving out a business card, hey. Yeah, yeah, I do it. You gotta keep, yeah. That's the only way you gonna stay on in mind. Unique hustle. For sure. Unique hustle. It's a unique hustle. Hey, if somebody is saying anything that's against unique, call us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, sir. So what's different than you giving out a business card and I put it out on a song. Yeah, but that's the same thing, really. But that's the same thing. But see, in my era, when no one would know what the thing was, you didn't just, let's see, but the whole thing was though you didn't just do the phone. You did the shirt. You had anything you would represent. You were branding yourself and listen, man. I even look, I say even the drops on music, niggas wasn't dropping. They had that come from that, to me. I'm just being real, like hustle on a beat and all these cats, whether it was Zay Tobin, all that come from marketing strategy. But I never seen nobody do it like that until I seen you do it. Hey, I pay big homage to, because I watched hip hop, bro. And I'm like, man, this nigga's sharp as hell. I tried to ask somebody, do you know anybody else that marketed or pushed theyself like this? Nobody else ever did it. Nobody. And you know what's crazy? Nobody. It's like, I hate that the Ravens just lost. You know what I'm saying? In the playoffs, you know what I'm saying? But when they won, you know what I'm saying? Just like the week before they lost, you know what I'm saying? It was another Mike Jones that was in the crowd. You know what I'm saying? He asked Lamar Jackson to start playing for the Ravens, quarterback, a question. And when he heard Mike Jones, he went back to the memory of when Mike Jones was doing his thing. So he just started giggling on the mic, saying Mike Jones, it went viral. It's cause you a beast. You did your marketing genius. I'm just saying you got to plant the seed if you wanted to grow, you know what I'm saying? It's like the unique hustle thing. I'm telling you, I've been saying that for what? 14, 15 years, bro. And I always say it's a unique hustle. And they hear me. And I have people to stop me and be like, man, that's the, that's it. It's a unique hustle, man. And it's crazy. I could tell a story. They say it so much that it's now like a way of life. That's the way I put it out there the whole time. So I get it. But I'm telling you, I wasn't doing it for you. No, no, no, no. We're on the cool. Like you say 14, 15 years, we really was around the same time. Same time, same time. But you were. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the way you was doing it, I guess cause the speaker was loud. Yeah, yeah. And then you got to rhyme. See, I didn't rhyme. I don't know. See, we had the same identical hustle. Okay. We both said we're going to start and put this grind on the floor. And we're going to go every way. My wife going to rap it. She's going to cry and listen to her head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My brothers. All my partners. Everybody is a unique hustle. It's a unique hustle. That's, you foundationalize that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And everybody, yeah. So we both did the same thing. Same thing. Same thing. You did music. You did music. And I'm hustling business. Yeah. They took the music capsule and then it's on radio. So it just went a little bigger. Killed it. And see, I promise you. If let's say like a fooboo. Or let's say like a carcannot can down here. Yeah, I know that guy. Yeah, I know. You follow him? Yeah, yeah, we rock. Yeah. Okay, now I'm saying unique hustle doing that thing. Let me go ahead and slide him a bone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's going to make you get so beat. It's going to blow quick. And then you going to do like Mike Jones did. And it's going to be like this. It's going to be on. Boy, you got that bone from carcannot. For sure. Five, six, seven, eight, you took it and ran. And that's all I did. Man, kill. We both had the same hustle, same grind. It's just that. Y'all created a foundation. Yeah. We both created a foundation. We both created one. We both land right here in the foundation. Foundation, correct. Yeah. That's it, man. I'll do the God, man. That's not a question. Uh-oh, talk to him. Come on, you got to get on this mic. You got to get on this mic. Go ahead, man. Okay, you said, what's the difference between giving, what's the difference between giving out a business card compared to putting your number for everyone to get it? Okay. When I give my business card, I give my business card to people who I intend to do business with compared to giving a number out to the whole world. World. That you get, you know, the unwanted calls and stuff like that. And I don't, not sure if you have a lady, but if you have a lady and all these other ladies are calling just because they're trying to get at you, how does she handle it? Man, women think differently. And how do you handle that? They think totally different. Okay, now I'm going to be honest with you. Okay? I love it. First, I'm going to break it down from the money, business side. Then I'm going to come answer you the question from the emotional right, trust side. Definitely, definitely. So from the business side, because you got to keep in mind, I'm coming from the bottom. I didn't have no real foundation. I'm trying to make a foundation. I'm trying to find a way to get people to know who I am, understand who I am, feel who I am. And there ain't no other way for me to really, I'm not finna keep going to spend $3,000, $4,000 every year on cards. Respect. And if I buy 5,000 cards and 2,000, you're throwing away and I'm walking and I'm seeing them. Yeah, I've been there. I've been there. I'm coming out of money. I'm going to finish you off. I can open my mouth and I can say 2-8-1-3-3-0-8-0-0-4. Yes, sir. That cost me nothing. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. You know what I'm saying? That cost me nothing. You know what I'm saying? And if I said, you know what? I'm going to put that on every song I do. You want me on the song? You want me on the song? I'm a marketer man. So I'm going to add, you want me on business? 2-8-1-3-3-0-8-0-0-4. That's it. You want to go buy a business card for $2,000, $3,000. I'm saving money on that. Now let me flip on this side. You see what I'm saying? Now that it became a phenomenon, you got women, you got men, you got haters, you got people who show love, everybody calling the number. Yeah, at a point it kind of got a little jealous like that, everybody calling the number. But you know me, you know that I'm not diving into the cloud. It wasn't even cloud at the time. Yeah, no, it wasn't cloud. But I'm not diving into the cloud. I'm not feeding into it. Never cheating on you, never beating on you. You know that that's just all insecurity that you got to check. That's it. Because over time, like how y'all been together for a while, we still together. So that was just a rollercoaster of how you was feeling, but you seen that I ain't never jumped out of character to never disrespect none. This is strictly business. I came into it as business. And it is business. Good question. Good question. It's in business. You feel what I'm saying? No, good question. You ain't never been no scandal on Mike Jones. Well, I don't know, Mike Jones at the hotel, I hit him up on the number. He called me, I got screams. You know that. Mike Jones called me on this number, I ain't called. Ain't nobody called me. Ain't no woman in America can tell you that this number was used full gaugely. You feel me? Against any woman disrespectfully. You feel me? This number is for people who call a show love, people who want to book a show, people who want to get a feature 15 years later. Man. So, wait a minute. Hold on, hold on. Hold on. Now, now back to this day. They answer the phone. They answer the phone. See who it is. See who it is. Answer the phone, they see who it is. Yeah, that's good. And when I answer the phone, oh my God, it's Mike Jones. View the phone. Babe, see where they from. That's where they from. There it is. She supported it. She supported it. She supported it. So you all said, so now, when different people call from different states. Look, it's from Mike Jones. All across the American, across the world. Man, I'm in London. I love you, Mike Jones. I love you. I love you. She's like, wow. Real talk. People still calling that number after all this time from all over. How could I still could have had her say, wow, like she feeling and I see it in her face. If I was to stop doing it when she was complaining about it way back then. You know what, baby? You're right. I'm going to just stop doing the number. You're feeling insecure. I don't want you to take that. Ain't nobody going to be calling me 15 years now saying, wow, you're going to be able to say, damn, babe, you did that. Man, they calling for a feature that we sitting here ain't doing shit. Dang right. The label didn't give me this. No, no, you did that on your own. Sometimes you got to go through turbulence before you land. But let me say something before I forget. Forget that. That was what I was thinking about too. Even before cast, they were highly independent. Really, you already had, you had epitomized that when you was doing that on your own because you was taking it there and nobody could never take that from you. Now I'm going to keep it funky which I'm going to go back all the way. Already. Yeah, you're saying so. A part of my hustle uniquely came from my team that I seen was around that was really making it struggle. Wow. That's good. That's good. That's going to break it down. That's going to break it down. Everything that came, I'm going to explain. Boom. Y'all, everybody knew who I was with, who I was with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we knew. I'm trying to come. I'm going to use unique hustle. Man, unique hustle, I got an idea. Yeah, yeah. You know, I want, I think. You trying to help them? I see. I get where you're going. Yeah, me too. Yeah. You trying. Yeah, yeah, I know that happened. We don't even want that on it. We don't even want that on it. Cool. So I said, okay, you know what? I'm going to create my own. That's real. That was God, man. I ain't even tripping. I know what that was. I'm going to create my own. Because he making a lane for you. I'm trying to look out and help out you. That's real. It's already known. I've been helping out unique hustle for at least the first two, three years. Yeah, yeah, I remember. For a quarter million. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But now I'm coming up with the ideas and we need to come with you. You growing. Y'all, I'm watching y'all stop me. Nah, man. We don't want to hear that. Ain't nobody backing that. Nah, man. We don't want to hear that, man. Ain't nobody backing no Dignified. Wow. Three, four months later, that song was the biggest song. That's it. That's it. That's popping. He know he's a big fan. Look out here. So the reaction that he's doing now is that I had to work through turbulence to get him to do that. Dang. Because I'm trying to show you, in the beginning, my people in the huddle, hey, we going to do blue 52-4. Nah, man, we ain't doing blue 52-4. Man, fuck that. Nah, dawg. That shit ain't going to work. It ain't going to work. It's going to work, fam. And you trying to get it. I'm watching the defense. Trying to sell them on. I'm telling you dawg, no. I got to argue with my own. My own, my own. Now, let me stop you. So that's prophetic. That's what I'm saying. When you speaking that, these guys can't see it. It's prophetic because they can't see it. They can't see it. Yeah, but also it shows that it was a vision in you. They couldn't see that. And that was just special for you. Right. But at the same time. And I know you wanted to help everybody because that's what leaders do. They want to help everybody. It ain't just that. You the only one can see it. It ain't just that. It's that we got into an agreement. Okay. So you wanted to take everybody with you. I get it. No, no, boom. So I get, I signed a deal. I get with Unique Hustle. Oh, too. Oh, fine. I'm going to rock Unique Hustle. House talk one on one until it's. It goes off. Yeah. It's where I go. It goes off. Unique Hustle. I'm standing like it's mine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Definitely. You see what I'm saying? Then I'm coming out here. I'm making play. Hey, man, I just ran across. I just ran across. I just ran across. Yeah. And you putting it out there. They don't respect it. They don't respect it at all. No, it was. I just ran across. John, man. He's trying to sign a nigga to universe from my nigga. You know what I'm saying? He just paid a nigga a bag. He universe my nigga. He read it. Ah, man, we ain't fucking with that. Wow. So over here. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Boom, boom, boom. Okay. So. I had this idea of my nigga. Nah, man. Okay. Wow. So I created kumaijohn.com. Cool. I created the YNZ. I gotta ask you a secret. Damn, when those things start blowing up and developing. Damn, you ain't even worried about you need hustle. No more doll. Damn, I thought you was about you all of yourself. That's exactly how I go. You all of yourself. I'm like, hell, no, I'm not. Oh, man, I just had this conversation. I know that's how I go. Bro, what you talking about? I know that's how I go. You tell them. I've been trying to contribute and bring it to the top. You speaking the same thing? I was just talking this way this morning. So I know it's real. The same exact way. The same thing about trying to help somebody. And then when it go through, you mean why you didn't let me do it? Or why I didn't get to do it with you? I had a web designer. Now it's all about IT, artificial intelligence. Yes, sir. In 2020. Yeah, that's what I do. I'm going back to 2003. I'm going back when you weren't even thinking about it. You know what I'm saying? Yes, sir. You weren't even thinking about it. I wasn't even thinking about it temporarily. I ran across my nigga way up there. Yeah. And he was mad. I'm like, what? You know, okay? Yeah, man, I'm saying we could do it. I'm like, okay. I'll bring it to you. You be hustling. Ah, man, we ain't on that, man. Wifey ain't trying to do all that, man. That's just too much money in the budget, man. We ain't even, ah, man, I love dog. Dang. Let me pull you back. Let me pull you back. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Don't stop the drip, man. Ah, that ain't gonna be. Keep going, keep going. Keep going, keep going. It ain't nothing but 250 a week, 1,000 a month, 12,000 a year. Okay. But I'm gonna tell you the return. Yes. That I got off of it. See, you missing the whole thing. I'm listening. I'm missing it. I'm trying to, why you don't cut me off. I'm gonna let you go. I'm going to let you go. So, 1,000 a month. You like nah, man. You know, wife ain't gonna do that. Dude, that's too much. I already got too much expenses, man. I got this here. I got this here. I got to get this here. Yeah. But this internet is the future. For sure. A lot of people struggle with that. You need hustle niggas. Roblox. Yeah. This nigga. Bots. Yeah. All that. Google search engine. He gonna have all that. He know it. Man, nobody on that shit. Doll, what you mean? Man, nobody on that shit. Are you serious? Man, we got to get these streets, man. At that time, we was in the streets. Yeah, I know we in the streets. But I'm thinking, like our people not thinking about crypto. You thinking still moving forward. Yeah. It was hard. So I said, you know what, Pimp? We got to do this on our own. We created it on our own. And now all of a sudden, we paying that thousand dollars a month. I started getting like 12, 15 thousand dollars a month off the website. Because now I'm getting like four, five million a month in traffic. Wow. So on whomyjohn.com. Another, another problem that I keep being. I started getting proper to my Jones shirts, posting them on my site. Posting them on my site. I'm selling the shirts, 50 dollars a piece. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. 50 dollars a piece. Oh, I know how you eating there. 50 dollars a piece. So I'm just showing you. That's good. I'm showing you the build up before the music. Before the music, yeah. Before the music. Yeah, yeah. I already had the ingredients. You already working. I'm gonna repeat everything. I'm gonna grind everything. That's why it sounded and it laid out. Like bought a nigga cause I already know when it hit it's gonna. It's gonna do it. Is it like me and him? We got money trained. Yeah, I just seen that. I'm gonna get to that. I'm about to get to that. But I wanted to ask you, I want to stay back just a little bit for one more question. Go ahead now. I'm gonna let him ask a question. Hey, how do you know if you made some money in your, when all the people keep calling your phone? Like it's a business transaction. I mean, you can't catch every drip of water that come out the faucet. That's it. Some of it gonna hit the bottom. Some of it gonna fall and you can't catch it off. That's it. And we gotta keep in mind, bro, that we didn't make this money. That's it. So we shouldn't be really just forward like that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We didn't create this shit. Yeah. Now if we created it, like how you might have created your child or you created something that you know you created, then you be like owning and honing and like that. You know what I'm saying? But we didn't create this money. They did. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. Then we grind for it, but it ain't just know how he gave me that example. I'm not really just on it like that. I know that it ain't mine. And I gotta pay tax on this shit too. So it ain't mine. You get off the hand. So you feel me? I don't want to take you up for it. I want to hold you back just a little bit just for one more question. And the question I had was about that pulling up, man. About, you know, I'm a, hey, I done met Bun several times, but I'm a big PMC fan. And I wanted to know, because I seen you in the car with him that day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I seen y'all riding and Bun linked up that night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm trying to figure out how was that ride and how was that dealing with PMC that day? That pulling up situation. You know what's crazy? You say that, bro. Man. Right after, I'm going to go back before I go. Okay. I'm going to go forward before I go back. Right? After we did the pulling up video, he jumping his car, jumping mine. Okay. We was going to leave. We were leaving the pulling up, headed to do another video shoot for Brooke Valentine. Okay. You know what I'm saying? On the way going there, it was a shootout. Okay. We come in this way, where he added the gas station, we come in this way, and it's a shootout coming this way, and the car, thaw, hit pilt. Wow. Then they wrecked it. Wrecked out. You know what I'm saying? Him and the body guard was in there. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, oh, shit, I was behind. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You feel me? I ain't never heard this story. Yeah, because he was really going to go left and then go into the stove. Yeah. On the way going to the Brooke Valentine video shoot. We did the pulling up and pulled off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I seen the Texas side. We did the shoot in Port Arthur. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? The video shoot was complete. Done. Okay. Mike, you on this song with me too with Brooke, we from the guy on that whoop. Follow me. We finna go get this gas. We finna shoot to the city. Port Arthur the H-time. Yeah. I'm following behind him, jet like this. Boom, wrecked out. Somebody hit him. I seen the car coming down and then the car behind him, the dude was out the window. That, that, that, that, that, that, that. I'm like, oh, shit. I'm looking at that. I'm paying attention to that. You feel me? Yeah. Meanwhile, he up on the phone, one hand clean as fuck. You know, he got confident. Yeah, that's it. Fly. Chill all dial and he cleans. Yeah. He wasn't paying attention. Yeah. To that that was coming down that way. Yeah, yeah. And as he was, you know how when that light turned green, he was kind of like from the turn left, but again kind of turned into that gas station. Yeah. And that's why what he was trying to do it. That first car that was trying to get away just hit him. Wow. And then the other car that was still chasing him kept chasing him. Yeah. I stopped at the light. Yeah. I was looking like, oh, shit. Wow. And that was in Port Arthur? In Port Arthur. Wow. Feel me? Yeah. But good thing we finished the video first. That's why you saw the video. Yeah, but I'm saying that night scene came later with Bumbi. That, that, that, yeah, no, no, this, this scene with Pimp that happened with the crash. With the crash came after the night shoot. Okay. So one of you is this, if that incident with the shoot out happened before pulling up, you want to start pulling up. Wow. You're right. That's how I'm trying to get you understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I had to go forward before I go back. Definitely. Now I can ask you anything you want to ask me about. Yeah, I just wanted to know how it was riding, talking, just that day. It was all good. It was all smooth, but it got messed up. At the end. On the way going to do Charmille. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If we were all way, it was on the, you know what I'm saying? He was already showing me love, showing me respect. When he got out of prison. I seen it right after that. I was watching the moves. He was showing love doing that. So that's why I was like, I got to show love to OG. So we went and we did that. We was all together. I got pictures. We was all one hundred. Now we was doing that. You're like, they come jump in the whip with me. Now, you know, I just got this here whip from Ken. Yeah. Yeah, he got that whip from Camille. Yeah, I know. I talked to Camille. So I jumped in the whip with him and we was rolling and everything. The kids was chasing us. They was going crazy. I had my job. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, yeah man, they were looking at the chain. That thing will clean to drop tops. Y'all was in. And we were just rolling. You feel me? Yeah, man. We're going to lead up. We're going to lead up to the side. Yeah. We're just going to put like the slide. I had my belly here. Yeah. Yeah. I smashed up the belly. He said, I smashed up the gray one. And bought me a red. Yeah. Every time I hit the parking lot with turkeys. Nobody said that because he smashed the gray one. Damn, I didn't even know that. That's what's up, man. First time hearing. When that day, he had the gray photo Bentley. I had the black photo Bentley. I had to fly in spur. He had to fly in spur. Killed it. Photo. Then he came back with another car. Because that one got wrecked and then they came back. He came back with another car. Man, man. OK, now we feel to get into this money train. Because I want to know about the new, you know, the new movement. I call it a movement because it's different now. You got to pull strong into this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He can get on the mic right there. Bring that black chair. Yeah, we got it. Yeah. That mic ready to go. Yeah, yeah. So the money train, man. I love that. I love that, man. I'm going to be honest with you, the whole logo, when you send it, I told him, like, get it on there fast. I got to get it back to it. So what I'm trying to figure out is on a new project, like, how are you guys? I'm going to start off by saying, how are you able to? How are you pushing it? I know you're a marketing guru. I respect your market. Man, I'm going to tell you, so I've been giving out things, wards and stuff. I'm going to bring you back for that award thing for that market. I'm tripping on that. Man, I got to, bro. Because there ain't nobody do that like that, bro. And I mean for this, see, this is a southern hospitality platform. Y'all don't realize that. Because this Dallas, Texas, this is where we at, man. And so we got to make sure that we represent right. This is the other logo. That's when we saw it put on the clothes. That's nice, man. When you do, I want to sum that up in here. I used to do a Power Wilds expensive taste years ago. I always rock with my people, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't need some, too. Yeah, he pushed his clothes. That's your shirt right there, actually. He always got something going to try to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, show the cam. You know what I'm saying? Yes, sir. Money train. The thing, money train, first we'll say, how did you come up with that, that whole concept? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, really the whole reason for the concept was really just, I'm seeing that, let's say, if it's a car, a photo car, only four people can go get some money. OK. If it's a two-door car, only two people can go get some money. OK. Feel me, a truck, maybe four, five, six people. But a train, how many people can get on it? How many are you hooking up to it? How many trailers you got on that thing, yeah? It's unlimited. Yeah, yeah. That's why when you look behind, you see the money flying everywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I got you. Because everybody is eating. You see what I'm saying? Not only eating, they understand the game, what's going on in the game. Like, for example, let's say, boom, I'm a given example. Let's say like a big Meach, everybody know Big Meach. Yeah, yeah. Let's say he said, hey, Big Meach, I'm doing a deal with Unique Hustle. I need you to go move 30 blocks for me. Yes, sir. You know the number, 30. 30k per one. You thinking, OK, baby, I'm going to do this. I'm going to put my life on the line. Baby, I'll be back, man. You know, hold the keys if I get jammed up. Yeah. But I'm going to come back with at least 15,000 per one. Yes, sir. And then you come back and find out you put your life on the line, made the risk, but now he only want to give you 10%. 3,000 per one. You're like, 3,000, bro, I didn't put my. Hey, bro, 3,000, my nigga, 27, you, 3,000, me. Yeah, yeah. Fucked up, right? That's how the music game is. You know what I'm saying? Got you. Anyway, so if you got 100%, the artist is only getting 10%. Wow. The label is getting 90%. And they're taking that 10% that's going to you and taking out the fees, the flights, the expenses. Then they hit you with the advance they gave you. So, oh, let's come out your deal. So, but with on the money train, everybody getting 50, 50. So it's like 40% more quality, equity with us. We putting the money up. We doing everything. My nigga strong on the beach. He going to make sure you season right. But when the money come in, we just going to take back what we put into it. And then after that, we break and break it with everybody else. Yeah. So wait a minute. You just said something. You said strong. You're on the beats. Every one. So he the one you producing the beats. Every track. Really? Yep. And that's what's up, man. So, so how long you been producing? I know by forever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, man, it's a unique hustle. I'll let your boy, man. I got Mike Jones. Hey, money. Yeah. Yeah, money train is in the building. Hey. The producer. Now, man, you were talking. What's that name again? Let's go. Strong On. Strong On. Well, that's a hell of a name. You gotta stand by that. Oh, yeah. You can't just be talking about Strong On. You gotta come on. We been on it. We been on it. So let me ask you about that. How long you been doing beats? And I mean, just talk a little bit about your legacy. Well, I've been doing music for basically my whole life. My pops was in music. OK. Yeah, he started out doing music. So I grew up in the studio and stuff with him. OK. And I really just started taking serious, probably like in, I say, I was probably like in high school. OK, yeah, yeah. And just fooling around with local rappers. I'm from Mississippi, you know, Jacksonville. Oh, really? Yup, yup, yup. Do you know that sound thing, seriously, when I keep saying it? Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. So I'm from the mother of the sound. I'm just, hey, I don't even know nothing else. Hell, yeah, oh, yeah. Gotcha. So I play instruments. You know, I play guitar, drums, you know, and detergent, everything. Yeah. Trumpet and French horn in the band and shit like that. So, yup, it's always around music. Always around music, man. So I mean, I know a lot of people that be wanting to work and I'm going to be hitting y'all up because dudes be, you know, they be wanting to spend. They be like, hey, man, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to make a show, man. But how did you guys come together? It was a guy on a money train named Young Deuce. OK. Yup. And he did some stuff for him. And him and Mike linked up and heard some tracks and did. Really hard to be, to overview really where it was, is I had came to Dallas because I always be out here. Yeah, yeah, I heard about you a long time. I said, my boy, here, here's somewhere. I said, he in the city. I'm going to be all the way clear with you, like, Ozarka water, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I'll take it, yeah. Ozarka water. It's like Ozarka, you know what I'm saying? So, the dick don't fail me now, son. Yeah. Everybody know about it. Yeah, everybody know about it. He out here all the time in Dallas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I got to sing the song for me back then. So, when I was coming out here and I'm like, man, I'm finna get this train going. I'm finna, you feel me? Because I'm taking all the money that's coming from Ice Age and putting it on the money train and then power my people. So we can really change the way that this music game is going for that 10% raw to shit. That's why a lot of artists is quitting and not want to be at a reunion. OK, I get it. Now, why you don't see a lot of artists going to the bad boy reunion, OK? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That 10% is just killing them. When the other person make it 90%. Yeah, not a good thing. So when you even it up and show that what happened is yeah. So that's why the train is serious. That's why it's really been moving. So I went with my boy Thor at the time and him putting something together, and he took me to Dewspot and Dewspot. I think the reason, I mean, to be honest, my opinion is the fact that you've been through all that you've been through. You see different, just like back then, you see different. You don't already seen so many hurdles that people had to climb. So when you look and you like, nah, we can't do it that way. We got to do it this way because I've seen this and this. And I think that part right there got to be expressed. You got to acknowledge that because you just get more precise with your moves, right? I think the hindsight and I bring them all in my business to let them see how it goes and I can learn from it and to know not to do it like that. He pulled up on me. And Mr. Sid, yeah. Man, this guy here's so male. It seemed like everybody, he just organically moves, man. Let me show you, so I'm talking with Tharum, the one who made the deep note for me now, we put the shit together, we put the shit together. He take me to Dewspot. We going to Dewspot. I'm telling Dewspot, man, we need to find a producer and that's gonna be with us like a man in fresh. Like how, you know what I'm saying? Cairn Money did this thing. Every track was with Manning, one producer, set up shop, that's what we need. You know what I'm saying? Already. He was sending me different ones here, here and here. And he was like, man, you know, I got my cousin. You know what I'm saying? That's in the silk, you know what I'm saying? And I was like, man, let me, let me hear the tracks. Yes, sir. So I'm in the first two, it was over, I was like, aw, man. Can't see if we can change this, if we can move this. They sell. One in the studio did the headlight, it was over. So I dropped the track. Everybody's thought, oh shit, can't do that, John. You know, he like, fuck, he already had some other opportunities that he was doing. Yeah. I'm gonna come out here and peep it out and see what's going on. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He been here 100, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? And everything just been getting right. Crazy. I like it, man. I like it because it's organic. Oh yeah. I'm tripping because that's the whole game. Do we talk that all the time? Like, cause that's why I sell authentic clothes. I can't be, it's organic, it gotta be right. It lasts forever. That's why that Mike Jones thing stick because it's real. All the face stuff move out the way, the real stuff remain. So the thing, I was going, oh, we gotta do the top three. I do a thing where I call it the top three artists, right? I need to know. And I need to know the top, your top three artists of all times, dead or alive. I don't lie. Dead or alive? I have to say number one, I have to give it to Big Poppin. Who was that? Big Poppin. Notorious. Really? Say, man. Man, you better, hey man. Let me tell you why. Oh no man, I'm trying, I'm just selling hospitality. You asked me my three. And that's what everybody's saying. So listen, I'm gonna tell you why because sometimes people can look at stuff as lyrics. He had lyrics. You knew he was cold. Yeah, he had lyrics. But what I'm telling you is when it go to a situation where it's fat, black, ugly, it's ever, however. I get it. I stay Gucci down to the socks. Yo, come on now, I'll tell my, I'll tell my like juice. I can't debate it. I'll tell my juicy. I can't debate it. I'll tell my juicy. Come on now. So why you debating what I'm saying? No, I can't because I'm gonna stop. You better tell you something about it. Give me something else. Give me something else. I got you. So what I'm saying is why number one is number one. So I don't want to do what you want. I get it, I get it. I'm gonna go straight to the top for you. Okay, okay. Yeah, I like to go straight in. I got it. No one biggie. Yeah. And why is number one? Because he wasn't perceptionally how it was supposed to be coming into the game. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I gotta remember where we at. Yeah. I'm gonna tell you, you know, I'm gonna show you why he was influential. Yeah. Influential, lyrical. Okay. Sellable, went diamond. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Beesmo. Okay. Beesmo. Okay, so I'm just showing you. And all that did, I'm gonna add on top of, what's the name of the shirt? Money Moses. I'm gonna add on some money more on it. I'm gonna add some money more on it. Okay. He didn't even have the image. He didn't even have the image. He didn't even have the image. He took it there. Open the door for all the other big boys. You didn't hear me. Open the door for all the big boys. Like I seen my niggas, listen, they were hustling all the other cars of the niggas. You're niggas hustling all the other big niggas. I get it. I get it. I'm looking at selling 10 million. Now, when you got my nigga pop, and pop ain't even my number two. Okay. But listen. Okay. When you got pop, who step out? Shirt off. Thug life. Yeah. It's an image. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Don't get me wrong, the lyrics back it up. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? He ain't got that. I'm gonna lift y'all up and do a mom. I'm gonna lift y'all up this way. I'm gonna lift y'all up this way. But you know, only that. Okay, okay. And even him, he was going through some insecurities. In his beginning, digital underground. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Digital underground. Two apocalypse now. I remember everything when he was starting out. He had a dream to become that. Biggie was just baby, baby, baby. Yeah, yeah. He didn't have to learn all the way. He didn't have to go from group to group to group. He didn't, it was just. Yeah, but you know, at the end of the day, you know, park was parked. Now you're not gonna come here and tell me park. I'm gonna put park at three. You, you gotta put park somewhere. You not fit it. Listen, man. No, no, no, it's respect, bro. Yeah. But who you got at number two? You got me worried. But listen, listen, listen to me. Because I'm gonna tell you why, even though I don't respect all of the business moves. Okay. I'm still respecting what it was done for the culture. Yeah, yeah. I'm listening. It's your top three. It's your top three. I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Let me just get it to you. I'm explaining why. Uh-oh. Biggie. Okay. Jay-Z. I knew it. I knew it. Tupac. No Southern, nothing. I'm gonna show you. No, no, no, no, no. I got my own Southern. Okay, so you just, is this an East Coast? I can't put it on. West Coast thing? I can't put it on. I see you being sectional. Okay, I'm just trying to figure out where we at. I'm being inspirational. I'm being hip-hop touchable. Touchable, I get it. I'm talking about the world wide. I get it, I get it. I just know, now if we in Houston only, I got my own top 10, my top five. Okay, okay. So you categorize it different? I'm categorizing, okay, okay. You can't name me five people from where I'm from that really took over the world. Are you right? So why would I? I can't even, I can't lie. In my top three, if you gonna make me go there. I get it. No, you went there. So, so, so, so, so. I get it. So, I gotta break it down. You're right, you're right. I got legends. If you saying, man, what's the top five songs out of H-time, nigga, my whole list different. Yeah, mind you. Because I'm Zoned In. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What? The songs that changed the community. Yeah, but you saying hit the universe. Where you go to any country and you hear their name, right? Yeah, I'm talking about world wide. I get it, I get it. I can't, I can't. What's the thing that happened when Jay-Z did a big pippin' with, with, with, with, with, with, with UGK? Oh yeah, it took it, it took it there. It took who there? It took UGK all the way to the dog. So, it was all available that it was New York and New York, New York, everything. And they weren't speaking the South. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure you could have come through and show that look. It was real. Come on, now, who playing, dawg? It was real. I can't, I can't even, I can't even knock it. I'm talking about barriers being knocked down. You talking about awful perception. Yeah. I'm talking about barriers being knocked down. I like this. D-Pimp. D-Pimp. I like this, babe. Right after everybody happened. Okay. Okay. UGK. Yeah. Because it got broke down. Yeah. They, they pop now. They pop now. They hood pop. They hood, but they still pop. We up here with Juggler, what you talking about? Hmm. PmC, what even that? I mean, Miami, I still, y'all see what it is. It didn't say hood pop. Hmm. You're right. So you can't tell me why. No, I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. That's one nationwide, worldwide. Well, you, you broke the mold for me when you said the world. That, that pretty much, that I get it. I get it. That's that's how. So when I'm making my decision and see the number four, I want to put 50. I want to put 50, the 50 cent of Jauru, one of them two. I can't even give a strong one of them two. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah. It's one of them two. Yeah. For the number four, what you told me? Top three. Top three. That's all I need. But you said, I said, why this going on? What you saying? Yeah. Influential. Touching. When you say they name, no matter what country. I ain't done what he said. I did say all the time. Dead or alive. So if I, if I name a person from Houston and you do not know them. It's going to be like, how could they be some of all time? Yeah, yeah. How could they be some of all time? Man, I, I'm done with you. I can't mess with you. I can't mess with it, man. You juice it. I'm going to, yeah, that's my favorite song. See how we connect. That's it. Because I, because I rock with it. I know it. He did 10 million. But for fuck's sake, did 10 million. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'ma don't lie. In the time, the way that's given, yeah. All time. All time. Respect. I had to respect it. You know, my nigga did diamond with the first one. Well, life after death, did diamond again. Yeah. But life after death, that went out to pass. He did diamond when he was alive and did diamond when he died. Yeah. What you trying to say? Yeah, I can't, I can't even debate it. You need hustle. You need hustle. What was what was solidified organic and official for 10 years when he go it's 30 years after that. He's still official. That's it. You know, hold on your name for the 15 years. Say man, say that's the top three. You know, he saw diamond before he died. Love it. Love it. I can't even, I can't even fling. No play. Pop. Pop did them to me. And when he died, the other one did them to me. That's why they was the biggest iconic. Yeah. See, I shouldn't even took him now because he gone. He, he know, he love it. That's the F from the heart, man. That top three from the heart, baby. It was so iconic a deal when one person get murdered and the other person get murdered. So I'm like, we in soap opera now. How can you give me or ask me to give you a top three and don't mention them to the purpose? You killed it. I killed it. I love you. I love your energy. Love the way you came with that. Hey, man, we can't do this. We can't go out like big and pop dogs. Already, we learned. Hey, man, you know, even though it's still some stupid shit. Oh, it's a lot of stuff that's going on when the conversation arrives. We know that the older cats, they know. OK, we can't do it like that because we know what happened. And then you know why I say jigger number, number, number two. Yeah. Look at what's going on. See fabulous Rockefeller chain. Don't you see me meal. Rocker, they're still moving. Don't you. So we got it. Rock nation. They still move out. Your honor, you got everybody still moving. So the man showed you school, high school, college. Yeah. He showed you I did consistency, 10 years, running this shit, doing this shit. Now I'm falling back. I put Kanye on. Kanye, Kanye, he making waves now. It was the next biggest thing. Yeah, yeah. But you know, they helped with that, too. Now, you know, the perception of it was a perception of but but it was it was it was a force. But you know what, like you, he won't know. He won't know just no mogul when it came to pushing his brand like that. He had people that helped him with that. Yeah, he had a team and that team was what pushed. And then he took it to the next level. So I get it. But the difference of it, though, is this real quick. The difference of it real quick is this, though, his team blew it up and they eventually destructed it up. Yeah. You feel me? Yeah. One person want to go into jail? One person want to know that my team was fucked up before it even blew up. Blew up. Yeah, I get it. I get two different way to different way. But a lot, a lot, a lot of talent in all the different under all the different umbrellas. Lot of different talents. So what's to come? What's what's OK? The next project money train. When is any anything? Can we look forward to anything coming? We got Guap season. Guap season. Guap season is on the way and we call it Guap season because everybody love the fact that they make money, pay their taxes. But you love when you get that Guap. That's on the table. You love when you get that Guap. You know that Guap, that's, you know. Yeah, yeah. So Guap. So do you think that, do you think like, how are you guys moving during the pandemic or how are you guys going to be able to press that out into the, you know, the masses? I know through, through, through, you know. Yeah, streaming. Streaming. We know that. But the thing is, the shows and all that stuff kind of slowed down. Everything kind of. We got to show them more. I know you told me that. How do you, well, I'm going to go there. You got to put it together. The money train and everybody else because we got equity. So if, even if the shows don't come, we can still eat. The clothes, everything. We're going to check from the label. Okay. You know, we don't sell another shirt. We don't sell another record. Another, we still get paid from equity from where we already did. Already did. That's what's up. All the new orders that's in it now. When the show's done. That's that 10%. As merchandise as they doing, they don't own it all. They just win it. They just win it. Yeah. And you know, I know plays matching. They're going to put it. Yeah. They getting 10%. And they don't even want to wear it no more. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. They don't even want to wear it no more. Don't get it. Man, I tell you, man, you guys, man, you don't blew my mind today, man. I love the fact that you, you came in the way you, where you told the story. Hey, man, I took you back because I ain't heard you do a interview about what was in the back a long time ago. You know, that's what I wanted because I'm an old school cat. I'd be wanting to bring because people want to hear that. You know, it's a lot of people that want to hear the story about what Mike did. Mike Jones did things that a lot of cats will never do and still hadn't epitomized on. So respect, man, love the brand. Love the way it's going. Money train. Hey, it's going down. Definitely when the when the merch come out, I'm going to be like, man, why don't have it in the store? I'm going to go on Boss Talk and go live it. Mike Jones, where is the product? And we also got Mike Jones. Oh, gee, on the way. Oh, that's what I was thinking about that. I need that now. So how you got you're going to do it in Cali? You can swipe, too. Are you are you doing it in Cali? Or are you doing it in Oklahoma? How are you doing it? Our plug is in what Arizona? Correct. Phoenix. Because it's hidden everywhere else around. But it's going to be global. So I'm going to let you I'm going to let I'm a player and let you hear him. OK. Tell you what the goal is. OK. I'm saying because I say, man, I need some of it. Man, I want I need to talk to y'all. I'm trying to get into the game. Listen, listen to the strand he makes it with. You don't see him. Bullshit about. Yeah. That look. Wow. Smoker. Yeah, I got a smoke. He said, listen to him. Listen to him. It might be the one thing. That's going to be. Listen to him. We're trying to get this worldwide. Yes, sir. We're going to get certain strains. We're going to make it pop. We want it to go right here. This is the cross. This is the 99 DJ Blueberry throwback. Wow. And then we got a Mexican in a cascup. Now it's a piece. I need a sample. Yeah. Yeah. Serious about it. Serious about it. So let me ask you this. Packages. How do you how do you? Because I got to ask you this. How do you because you got to be at a hustle every which way. Right. And I know how you did it a long time ago. Now today like to deal with crossing over into the hat. Crossing over into whatever whether it be the clothing or you try or do you have to. Because these are named different. They marketed different. Okay. So how do you bring them all under the same umbrella and push them at the same time? Maybe because that's what you did before. Right. So let me let me break it down to you. Any bonnix. So you can really understand. Yes, sir. I'm going to give you a scenario so you can understand. Back in 0304 in that prime era. I know we're not in that era. Correct. Definitely not. But since I invested in bitcoins back then. Yeah. I'm a millionaire plus now. Yes sir. Yes sir. Yeah. And we still getting paid from the investment of bitcoin that we invested in way back then. Yeah. Even though it's only in 2020. Correct. 15 years later. Yes sir. So the moves that we move on we don't have to move desperately to get a show. To do a show. That's just extra guap. Oh just right. Because the investment already paid off itself. I like it. I like it. And listen. You laid the foundation is all you say. I know. We was doing it from the Trump. There was no such things as streaming. Yeah. But it was something called back then getting a half a billion plays. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we got paid from that. So when it all of a sudden became streaming our music all of a sudden got dumped into streaming and that's a new source of income. For sure. So these new artists they're not seeing the royalties that we see every six months because they signed it away. The label get 90%. They get 10% translation. If he go platinum 10 million sold off an album. Nine million going to the label. One million going to him. And before he get that one million or we gave you a million dollar advance you ain't getting this one million. Oh we paid 200,000 for the recording for the flights and bringing unique all that, all that. Yeah. You in the whole 300,000. Wow. With a platinum album. With a platinum album. Meanwhile, I don't get 65% or 100%. Yeah. So even though we in 15 years later I don't got to do nothing now because they still paying me from the percentage that were laid down from the Bitcoin that was invested back then. That's a smart investor. So I'm making sure that as I do it for the new people, we able to say it's 50-50. Yeah. And now y'all got to take it to another level and invest it properly. Like he did. Right? That's why I'm showing them my father. That's right. Let me ask you one more thing because we're going to shut it down in a minute. For that kid or for that teenager out there that's trying to get his foot in the dough in the rap game right now. What could you tell him to help him to get there? Anything encouraging? Because I know everything. I mean for one I tell him to listen to my words watch us because everybody watch me but I really want him to watch him. It's just like when we was outside my boy, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to the camera. Yeah, that's the dentist man. No, no, no, give him the plug. What's that? Superman. Superman. Superman. We was out there chilling and it's all organic. I ain't saying he had to know. No, no, no. It's just chilling. Everything was just organic but when he hit the light to him to super who strong was I didn't say oh and he zoomed in. That's him. That's why he shoot you to the death. Once you get knowledge once you get knowledge the whole mind chain you can not have knowledge and still move naively and dumb. I ain't saying anything but I'm just saying first we'll over get the game. I got the game that Jay-Z over there and such and such over there and I'm still gonna act like I'm over here I'm tripping, ain't it? I'm finna go over there make myself seen, respected and make that path cross. So what you're saying just watch the moves that you guys are doing and kind of P-game play line. You know what I'm saying? That's what the youngster would have to do. I think that's about it. Did I miss anything? I don't think you missed anything. Everything. Cause we went in. He went in. I love him. Love him. Beautiful movement man. Like I said boss talk, hey man this one here man this one for the records. The people gotta watch this ain't about watching me it's about what I'ma lay down. I feel me cause in the beginning when I came out it wasn't about watching meals about what I'ma talk about what's your content like what's your message my nigga what you talking about what you gonna leave what you gonna leave my nigga what you doing bro and when I came out they were back then they ain't want me now I'm out of there they got a little pain on them okay we hear you my nigga got a little struggle which I hear you my nigga I felt that my nigga you know what I'm saying so I gained someone 100 with the streets you feel me I never went left on the streets I can do drop and give me 50 I can do cut it I can do next to you I can do all type of records because I never just went to pop I never went to I stayed you stayed in your lane in my pocket I experiment like paint I want you to just color I want you to just color I want you to just color and the world respected and accepted me to do it how I do it because I never jumped out of character and jumped out of life but the thing is Mike Jones I'ma be honest man when you say it and it sound like it sound great but for a person outside looking at it I keep saying it's prophetic like it look like it's just like you do it easy it's easier said than done bro like I said a lot of people see it and they would love to do it but to do it and then speak it before it happened and then lay it down and then I invested properly man that's not normal the mind is the most important asset you got your mind like if you can't control your mind you can't control nothing else that's around you you feel what I'm saying so we can't control this how can we control anything definitely you see what I'm saying so you gotta condition this hey we gotta do it like this we fun to be like this this is the goal just the mission just the focus and over time you see that wow coming to fruition but I was like when I see when I when my grandma when I came to her at first I was yeah when I was down and I was like damn man that's crazy man I'm trying to go to people man they ain't even trying to hit me man shit like what's going on what happened I'm like man I'm trying to get people listening to CD you know what I'm saying I'm just trying to make I'm trying to get out shit like man do something nobody else done be accessible to the people get your phone about she said it oh yeah she said it she right here on my arm you know what I'm saying be accessible to the people get your number you feel me you know what I'm saying if the DJ's ain't showing no love go around and go to the strip that's heavy you feel me so a part of the game you give me the game but I had to take the game I had to be like yeah cause I was down I was there so that key yeah that's why when you open the album cover it got my granny in there because it was all her who is my John she knew me better than anybody and it was only right for me to tell you what I believe in what I know and what I represent you know what I'm saying we appreciate it man thank you so much man we appreciate you for coming on boss talk man boss talk man boss talk hey man hey man it's a unique hustle man we out