 100% means there's no way you could be wrong, you're not asking any more questions, you don't need any more evidence, you're closed-minded on the position. Yes. Okay, okay. Because of this? Okay, so I'm gonna hit record, record, and then cool. So last time we talked about the Second Amendment, normally when I have conversations about something that... Oh yeah, by the way, I'm Ty, nice to meet you. Yeah. Would you be cool if we talked about something more supernatural? Sure. Okay, cool. So normally I really like to talk to people about supernatural beliefs they might have, like karma, like the existence of a god, or like... I talked to a guy literally for like an hour and a half about... What do you call it when you die and you come back again? Recarnation. So is there anything like that that you find compelling? Karma, sort of, yeah. Karma? Yeah. Okay, what is it about karma that you find like really cool? I wouldn't say really cool, but... Yeah, man. But there's a lot of times where I see that someone do something, the next thing you know, someone else comes around the corner. Yeah. Often when I'm alone, I'm just watching YouTube, I often end up watching instant karma fails. Instant karma fails? Yeah. Okay. Does that... Do those videos inspire you to believe more that karma is actually real? In certain senses, yeah. How confident do you think karma is actually a thing right now? I think it's more of a now and then kind of thing that goes around, comes around. It's more of like the general sense of like put out good energy, generally good energy will come back to you. Yeah. Do you think there's like a moving force that mitigates that to happen? Yeah. Really? Okay. That's God in that sense. Okay, okay. Do you mind if we talk about that for just a little bit? Sure. Which God are we talking about? The Christian God. The God of most, the Scott of Abraham. For clarification. Would you say like the Mormon faith, Jehovah Witness faith, Baptist, Protestant, Catholic? I was raised a Methodist. Methodist? Does that mean you guys can rap? Because there's like really good method rap. Have you known about the rapper named Method? No. But he's good. He's really good. But what is funny is... You know about him? He's good. We have a group in our church called the Methodist Men. And on their coolers, they have a short methamen. Oh no, that's not good, right? Yeah, so every time I look at their coolers, I just start post out laughing when I read methamen. Is your faith in this God very sure? Like absolutely. Yes. How confident do you think that this God exists? Very. It's like safe from like on a scale from zero to 100. Where zero is like, no way this God exists. I don't even need evidence. And 100% it's like I'm so close. My number God exists there. I'm not even like open to any more evidence. Like what would you say is like... Those are two extremes. Jackhammer. Oh, don't terrify me, dude. This guy, anyway. There's villains out there. Yeah, yeah. So... How confident would you say that you think your God's true? Or that... I am 100% confident that he exists. Okay. Would you mind if I clarify what you mean by 100%? It's just to make sure I'm not putting in words in my head. I believe that he exists 100%. 100% means there's no way you could be wrong. Yeah, no way to be wrong if he exists. You're not asking any more questions. Yeah. You don't need any more evidence. No. I'm in a position. Yes. Okay, okay. What got you to that high level of confidence? Well, every time I had a problem, I would go to him. I would... Maybe the problem wouldn't be resolved by felt better. And every time I had a problem and I didn't go to him for help, I felt worse. Oh. So it's just me like feeling better about myself. Yeah. And I feel like something out there was helping me. You had these really strong personal feelings that helped you confirm this belief. Would you say that's the most important reason? Yeah. Or is that the reason that got you up to that 100%? Well, the last reason that got me up to 100%, I was on a fall retreat with a Christian group on campus, CSF, that anybody's watching from University of Kentucky. Shout out. Yeah. A shame to shout out. Fall retreat. Yeah. And we were doing baptisms on the final night and it was really cold out and one of my buddies had his truck all lit up so we could see the lake where the baptisms were taken. That's cool. Yeah. And during the last few baptisms there was a presence over the crowd that nobody could describe. Like a really strong feeling. Yes. Okay. And you know how in the biblical story of where Jesus baptized where a dove comes down? Yes. We almost had that sense. The talking dove came down? No. Oh, okay. I wasn't talking. I was just like in the story. Twitter, Instagram, get that. All right. So in the book it's not a talking dove. It's a dove that comes down and God's voice kind of like an overhead. But you had this feeling? Yeah. We had this feeling and when it was cold out we were getting some sort of water and condensation, whatever rising from the water like steam of some sort. And it was so cool. You had to be there to see it. Like we were seeing people take the vow, not really a vow, but saying that Jesus Christ is the Lord and getting baptized and they would come up and everyone would go nuts. Wow. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. You had given me like two really good, I just want to make sure these are what got you to 100%. Yeah. If you got a different set of feelings or if the feelings weren't as strong without effect of confidence in anyone, it would. So these are like the foundational things that are like really important. Can I ask you a question about this? Yes. Is it ever possible to have a strong feeling about something and end up being wrong? Yes. If it's possible to have strong feelings about something and be wrong with five strong feelings and be right, it's not absolutely true all the time. What is actually getting you to that 100%? Somebody get her out. Everyone around me. What do you mean? Well, like I have a group around me and we support each other and whenever somebody was in trouble, the other people would take up slack and go to their aid and that's what called shift group. Sorry, another shout out. You want to just plug them right now? No, we can do this after the check. And whenever someone was having problems, say, well, promise with the internet. Sure. And we'd always go to their aid, we'd pray for them and say we're with you, we're here for you and we won't leave you. That's really good. Yeah. That's really good, man. I'm wondering the reinforcement for you, the group, is that one of the main reasons then that got you to your 100% confidence? Yes. Because I knew that if there wasn't a God that didn't care about me, he wouldn't put those people in my life. Okay. Is it ever possible, I'm wondering, is it possible for a group of people who strongly believe in the same thing to be wrong? Yes. If that's a possibility, what's getting you to that 100%? Like what's getting to the point where you know you absolutely don't know? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It seems like you have a method that's not 100% reliable but yet you have 100% confidence. I'm wondering, what's justifying that 100% confidence? Thank you. Off-camera guy over here. Cool. And I wouldn't mind talking to you afterwards but it would be better. And I don't mind talking to you afterwards but I'm kind of one on one right now. Yeah. Is faith the reason that got you to your 100%? Yes. Like we always have, of course, holidays. It's not a day where you get off from school. But are you saying then if you didn't have faith you wouldn't be 100% confident? Probably yes. Okay. What do you mean by faith? I'm not really sure of the full definition but I know what the basic definition of faith is. I guess what does it mean to you? Like what does it speak to your heart? When you have faith in something? It feels good that you believe in it and you believe in it with almost no doubt. Almost no doubt? Almost no doubt. Could there be a little bit of doubt there? A little bit but you still have a belief and a strong conviction. I'm probably not quoting faith correctly though. The dictionary definition. Who cares? So I always get weirded out when people throw out dictionary definitions because that's just what usages are. Do you know you can find moogle in the dictionary? What's moogle? Exactly. It's the Harry Potter term for non-wizard. Oh, muggle. Sorry. I'm not good. I'm not good. But yeah, I find dictionaries are just like how we use words but not what they mean intrinsically. Does that make sense? All right. I'm wondering then, so faith is what feels good, a little bit of doubt. Is it possible to have faith in something that's not true? Yes. Do you have faith in things that are true though? Yes. If you could have faith in things that are true and not true, how do you determine which is true or not true? Well, there are many different religions and they all have faith in their belief. So in the end one of them is going to be right but we won't know until the end. Is it possible that none of them are right? Yes. Okay. And a strictly human sense of our thinking. Because... Is faith a good way to determine which one of them are right? For example, if I looked at a group that had faith that Vishnu existed and a group that believed that flying spaghetti monster existed and one that believed a volcano supreme god existed, Zinu, and then the other one that had like Christianity, they all have faith. Is faith a good way? So evidence surpasses faith. Well, you need evidence to support. That's what gets you here. That's interesting. So you can't do it with faith alone. You need evidence. Yes. What is the evidence that got you to 100%? Evidence that's from the Bible that was supported by real... not real, but archeological evidence. Okay. Archeological. I pronounced that wrong. Archeological evidence from the Bible. And then real archeological evidence. So do we have archeological evidence that supports the existence of a god? Of a god? Let's see. Not too long ago, a few years ago, James Cameron went on an expedition to disprove the existence of Jesus. But he ended up finding a grave of a man with written in Arabic, cousin of Jesus of Nazareth. Not Arabic, but Aramaic. I meant like a supernatural being. Of a supernatural being. Mom. Probably. Who knows? I'm biased to say that. Well, the thing is, the white Jesus from the TV shows, that's not true. It was in an Arabic nation. I'm more focused on, do we actually have archeological evidence that supports the existence of a supernatural god than the Christian god? Not that I know of off the top of my head, but I'm sure there is. Are you confident, is that possible existence that we're not sure about getting you to your 100% confidence? Like, are you justified at 100% confident right now over the idea that there could be evidence to support your confidence at this point? I'm confident that he exists. I'm not even sure if it's he. I'm not sure if it's classified as a he, but I know that a god exists. Whether that be, however, the Methodist preach, the Baptist, or whatever, there is a god out there. There are some people who say, That god doesn't exist. There are definitely some people who say that, but there are also some people that say, I don't know that the god exists or not. From those three groups, the groups that say god does exist 100%, to the groups that say god doesn't exist 100%, to people who say we don't know which way, what could you tell a person who says they don't know that would sway them as far as evidence towards one side more than the other? Do you understand what I'm saying? There's a bit that's in between, that's not making the claim either way. But that is the hardest part of evangelicalism, is convincing those who are not sure or those who don't believe. One of the guys I knew in high school was a die-hard atheist. What's an atheist name? They do not believe in a god or a mortal being. That rules over everything. Funny enough, a theist is someone who believes, a theist, or just with a theist. Do you think an atheist believes there's no god? There are those who are questioning, but a theist don't believe that god is real. What do you call someone who doesn't believe because they don't know that god exists or not? Questioning. I'm not sure what the actual term for it is, but I'd say they're questioning their belief. For a person who's questioning their belief, what kind of evidence would you provide to shift more towards your side versus any other? Do you have a reliable way to get to your confusion? None that are based off of evidence from today's physical world. Most of the evidence I can provide are stories from the Bible backed up by a little archeological evidence. Is that enough to justify 100% confidence in a client or an atheist? Could, for example, someone... You can't base your belief off of just what you can see in the world. Like, what's that saying? I'm probably going to get this wrong. Seeing is believing or seeing is not believing. I don't know what it is. But... Oh. There's a line from Polar Express. I love the best. That movie is super scary. That is Uncanny Valley from the war. CGI Tom Hanks. Oh yeah, but the line was some of the most real things in the world are the things we can't see. Okay. What would be a reliable way to get you to 100%? If it's not the feelings that you have because we agree that feelings can go either way. Well, I'm not the best one to talk about that because I'm just your average believer. I want to talk to you specifically. You can consider yourself however you want. But like, we know that personal experiences could be right or wrong. Faith could point to the wrong plays. You could have feelings that point, yes or no, to truth or not truth. And the evidence that we have may not be substantial enough to support a supernatural deity. So then, what is a good way to get to 100%? There is no quick, reliable way to get there. It's just your own personal journey. Can I throw something out at you? If I had a coin, right? When I flip that coin, it's not your coin. It's not your coin. It's not magical. I caught it. Okay, it's on the back of my hand. Let's say it's like a quarter or something. I don't know if it's heads or tails right now. Do you know if it's heads or tails? So we both don't know if it's heads or tails right now. We can go to science and say, is this heads or tails? And come out 50-50. I actually didn't experiment with that. I could have very personal feelings that it's heads. But it may not necessarily be heads. I could have a personal experience that I communicate with like tails, coins that are tail-side up. But that wouldn't, I ain't a lot of flies here, but that wouldn't necessarily make that more heads than tails. I could have faith that it's heads, but it wouldn't necessarily guarantee that it's heads. In this situation, where I don't know if it's heads or tails, in my opinion, I feel like I don't know if it's just an option, but the best answer until we have more conclusive evidence. What do you think about that? That is the human way of thinking about it. Are we not humans? We are humans, but we're trying to describe it using human logic. What's a more reliable way than human logic to get to a conclusion? As of this point, nothing. Because we don't know. If we don't know, if we both agree we don't know, would I be justified at 100% confidence that it's heads? No. Are you justified at 100% confidence that your claim is true? In the human sense, no. In the human way of thinking, no. Would you find a better method than human thinking? Please let me know. And go ahead and take a card. But Austin, I really appreciate it. Did you appreciate it? Yeah, I like talking to people because the only time I actually have discussions in my head. Yeah, for real. Check out my channel. All I'm trying to do is just have really cool conversations with people. Yeah, I was checking it out while you were setting it up. For real? Get out of here. I got a Twitter as well. 5 minute chat. You've been waiting for a while. You want to try it out? All right, all right, all right, all right. We were talking for like 20 minutes. I appreciate talking to you. Someone that we can actually have a conversation all back and forth. Exactly.