 So I want to take some time to look at this focus group from Allison Camarota of CNN I really enjoy these segments where she talks to voters because I think it's a really easy way to pick the brains of people without actually having to talk to people which I certainly Like so she's gonna talk to white women from swing districts in the state of Pennsylvania About the 2020 election and who they're going to vote for they're politically kind of all over the place You know someone from Obama to Trump some have voted for Republicans and Democrats So I think it's really interesting to see what they have to say because I want to know their thoughts so we can respond accordingly and Give ourselves, you know the tools that we need the arguments that we can use to persuade people like this if they are in Fact persuadable now. I'm thinking that this is probably going to be a Trainwreck so we'll see I'm not I haven't seen this so I'm watching this for the first time My reaction is genuine, but nonetheless, let's let's go ahead and hear what they have to say On Wednesday, we introduced you to a group of six voters from two key swing districts in Pennsylvania These voters are an important demographic white women without college degrees All say they vote for the person not the party three of them voted for Barack Obama and then Donald Trump So we wanted to know which candidates and issues interest them this time and how many plan to vote for President Trump? Here now is part two of our pulse of the people So show of hands how many of you have at times voted for Republicans and at times Democrats all of you How many okay? I've got to stop it right there because I already have something I want to say So this is something that even though it's odd It's not like unfamiliar like we all know someone in our family or social circle Who kind of goes back and forth Republican Democrat Republican Democrat? And usually the thing that I find with these types of people is they're always looking for change Like they want someone who's offering them solutions to problems and when the left-winger doesn't offer them solutions Then they opt for the right-winger and I use the term left-winger loosely because Bill Clinton and Obama these were not left-wingers They're centrists, but you know I digress They want change, but they're not getting it And so this is why I really want people to learn about political ideology and political philosophy So that way they have some set of underlying core values that they use to evaluate the candidates So that way they know okay, a left-winger is saying that we need to deregulate and Cut taxes for the wealthy and they need to be able to pick up on the cues that okay This is what is going to happen if we opt for that solution But you see people they they just they don't have time right they're working too much They're overworked underpaid and they don't have time to pick up on these types of things They don't have time to educate themselves So this is where you and I come in where we have to educate them and let them know who is and isn't the real deal But I mean this is not uncommon even though it's weird like I couldn't imagine going back and forth I know people who have done this like my dad is a perfect example. He voted for I believe Bill Clinton hated Bill Clinton then he voted for George W. Bush hated Bush then he voted for Obama and you know It was incredibly enthusiastic did not like Obama one bit So he opted for Bernie in 2016 But thing about that is Bernie lost and I don't know if he even participated in the general election in 2016 I Tried to convince him to still vote regardless because of all the you know ballot initiatives and whatnot if he did vote I think he probably voted for Jill Stein but either way like I know these types of people and the reason why Nobody's been able to produce a solution a politician has been able to produce a solution that works is Because the system itself is able to easily co-opt people in one way or another So we keep getting the same result even though there's different politicians and they're still continuity because I mean We're not actually getting anyone who's doing the change. They say they want Have you voted for President Obama and then voted for President Trump? Okay, so Marion explain How you were able to vote for both I voted for Trump because he was not a politician You get tired of the same old same old from Washington that and I really wanted someone that would make big changes President Trump he said he was gonna take care of us and he was gonna make sure we had more money in our paychecks Do you know and help us out because did he you go to work? You work hard and you have nothing and then there's people that don't even work that have more than I do has your life economically fine I want to stop that right there because what she's essentially alluding to is this Residual notion that you know dated back to the Reagan era that there are these welfare queens that they don't work But they live off of welfare and they have these lavish lives You know their their fridges are stocked meanwhile you're working nine to five and you're struggling you're overpaid and You know over you're under you're overworked and underpaid I just used that same phrase and I fucked it up already Regardless, you know you're you're overworked and underpaid and you feel like oh these people who aren't working they have it all But what people like this don't realize is that that's not true. That's factually incorrect people are struggling the reason why You are working so hard and you really don't see the fruits of your labor is because capitalists Decided that they could make more money if they deny you the value produced by your labor This is capitalism's doing this is the result of capitalism. They want to maximize profits and You know pay their CEOs more so as a result that means that you're gonna get less This is what happens so it's not you know the people who are on welfare or the immigrants Who are the reason why you're hurting? It's capitalism and this is why I really think education is so important because people don't know that the system is designed To make people feel like they are desperate right because that's what's happening We have income and wealth inequality that is absolutely insane We just got over the 2008 great recession and even though the economy in the stock market has recovered Normal people aren't really seeing the benefits of that game so people they just they need someone to blame and rather than blaming the system they blame their peers because this is what they were told and I just I don't know how we move beyond that how we get past this welfare queen notion Which is completely bogus people on welfare are absolutely struggling and desperate I was on welfare at one point and I can tell you I didn't want to stay on welfare because I didn't want to be Extremely fucking poor right and living off of food banks like whatever I got from food stamps of my family when we were younger Whatever we got from food stamps. It wasn't enough so we had to go to food banks So I mean It's not like they're living these lavish lives Like people want to work most people because they want to make money They want to be able to survive and sustain, you know an income that will actually allow them to buy a house buy a car But that's not the economy that we live in anymore. That's that's not the reality Things have changed because the system is rigged because that's exactly what we can expect from capitalism But I'm gonna go off on it and an anti-capitalist tangent So let's go ahead and just get back to the video and I'll shut the fuck up Actually improved under President Trump. I have I have a lot more in my paycheck. I I do have more in my paycheck as well My stock portfolio is doing great Maybe that's why I look at the economy different. I'm not where a lot of you are financially I don't think I'm pretty darn low income My family has received food stamps personally. What do you do for a living? I till recently I worked at a grocery store And now I am running a cafe. Do you think that the economy is doing great? No, I think the economy for the upper middle class has gotten better and that's great for them But the economy hasn't gotten better for me. Crystal, you voted in 1992 for Bill Clinton You didn't vote again in in an election until 2016. Is that right? Donald Trump was running and I said finally another business man and I got fired up Has he lived up to your expectations? Absolutely. I think he can he's doing just fine if he says this is what I'm gonna do at this timeline He does it. Well, he hasn't built the wall. That was one of his gonna say that is so I mean do you hold that promise against him? No, because isn't the whole wall Part of getting the money from Congress to and isn't Congress stopping him from getting the money He said Mexico was going to pay for it. Okay. I feel like this is someone who is probably too far gone like It's very easy to become susceptible to whatever bullshit you hear on Fox News if that's kind of The bubble that you insert yourself in right? So I'm sure she drunk the Kool-Aid and now she's too far gone She went from Bill Clinton to Donald Trump. That's quite the shift But I mean to be satisfied with Donald Trump You can't be satisfied with Trump if you know the whole picture like if you know that he is bombing children in other countries Our bombs are being sold to Saudi Arabia and they're using it on babies How can you still support him knowing that like when I found out that Obama had increased the drone war that was initiated by George Bush He lost my support essentially and I was late to the party, right? I had cognitive dissonance and I didn't want to realize it and maybe she's experiencing this But I mean if you know everything You can't unknow that right you can't take back that knowledge You can't put the cat back in its bag So she doesn't have the full picture if you still support Donald Trump. He cut his own taxes That's his one major legislative achievement. He cut his own taxes. How can you be satisfied with that? I just I don't get it Climate change still doesn't even acknowledge that it's a real thing What little progress we've made under Obama. He's undoing that and even though the Paris Climate Accord wasn't that substantial It was something so I feel like she's probably too far gone, but other people here Probably not as much. I don't know. It just depends. I have to see what they say So money gonna come from is he just supposed to print it right there at the White House? Well, he did take some from the defense budget coming from Mexico was the campaign promise believe that's literally a quote How many of you if the election were held today show of hands would vote for a president Trump? Oh, that's just one of you would listen. Are you on the fence? I liked him in the beginning when he first came out. He was saying things like it is Probably saying things like most of us think but don't want to say but I'm also thinking he's gotten out of control That's just him. Okay. I mean stop right here because like even though I Think it was pretty obvious that Donald Trump was a con man He was a fake populist like I'm willing to give these people a pass even though I think it's really morally reprehensible that they still voted for him in spite of the racism in spite of the xenophobia in spite of The war mongering mixed in with some anti interventionist isolationist things But I mean I'll give you a pass, but you don't get a pass if you know now Exactly what he's doing and you vote for him again. So this person is the only person on this panel that really seems too far gone These are people who to me seems like they want change and I really hope that Allison asks a question about Bernie Sanders because if I had to guess it seems like they would be open to voting for Bernie because these seem like people who are just They want a change candidate. They want someone who's anti establishment Watch him from the 80s on he's just I mean he used to go on the Oprah show and stuff He's just always been so candid about I can do that movie star or I can do this He's just he's a reality star. He's just don Trump. You like that. He's I like that. He's unapologetic So in terms of any personal indiscretions in terms of paying hush money to a porn star all that stuff Show of hands. How many people are bothered by that? What bothers you? He was asked did you like I get just like Bill Clinton pretty much. Did you have sex with this woman? Did you bribe like pay her off and he said no and It came out he did And people are like, yeah, you know what it's not a big deal But he did lie to us. There's no remorse. There's no regret. There's no Humility and vote for personalities. I vote for who's gonna get the job done. And why are you on the fence today? Okay, I guess don't vote for personalities but corruption isn't something that is Related to personality like she was asked or they were asked about the hush money payments corruption How can you just excuse that like if you realize that money in politics and corruption is an issue? It's rampant and he wanted to drain the swamp But yet he's obviously corrupt obstruction of justice the hush money payments the emoluments clause violations How can you just like overlook that? Like that has to be a massive caveat Even if you like his policies, right? Like I don't know that I could support Bernie Sanders if he was that corrupt But if I did which I probably wouldn't I'd still have to say look in spite of the corruption I like the policies, but they're not like they're just kind of sweeping it under the rug And that's what I don't get about Trump supporters. Like it's a cult, right? It's they they just don't really care. Yeah, I hate corruption, but Trump's corruption. That's okay. Uh, the Democratic Party's corruption That's bad, but Trump's corruption. It's not really corruption Here's an explanation x y and z for it or also Obama did it It just there's no consistency here And it just the problem with American politics is it is really personality driven like people don't necessarily care as much about policy When it's all said and done you kind of you put policy front and center in so far as you know your policy ideals align with the candidate's uh vision of what they want what he or she wants for the country And that's not the way the thing should be you should have a cohesive political ideology and set of policy preferences that you put front and center and if a candidate deviates from that Then you stop supporting that candidate. That's the way that it should be And um policies are something that matter to people, right? Like I'm not trying to say that people don't care about policy But politics is more personality driven than I think that I've acknowledged before and it's really frustrating That's kind of becoming evident throughout the course of the 2020 democratic party primary But I'll let them go ahead and finish because we're almost done with this on the fence until I make the decision I like to wait for the debates. I want to see who is out there But I mean there's so many candidates right now I can't even pretend to know everything about all of them or even most of the things about all of them Is there any democrat that speaks to you with an appeal? Pete Buttigieg Oh kill me. I mean that guy, he's a harper graduate. He was in the military He's smart. He's just articulate. He has great ideas. How do you go from Trump to Pete Buttigieg? Show of hands how many people like Pete Buttigieg? Mary, is there any democrat thus far that has appealed to you or do you think jumps out? Biden right now I can't but you know it can change because I think you know, they keep saying they're gonna bring on someone That they haven't announced yet. I'm who's they I didn't hear so I'm just waiting but it's gotten to the point where you don't know who to believe anymore I'm gonna be totally honest. Once again. I I listen to media. I listen to people here there in restaurants And and kind of forming my opinions From other people's opinions. No, don't do that started researching and looking and looking at different articles Going to Hillary Clinton I always thought Benghazi Hillary that was her deal the emails and everything but once you read enough articles and you look at a lot of things She really didn't do anything wrong. You know, um interestingly enough. I I was actually shocked by that You know, that's what I heard. This is what I thought we are in this polarized world right now Where everybody only goes to their own news source that they think that that speaks to them And I do think a lot of americans just don't have the time or the energy or the or have the right Interest information or interest. It's it could be a full-time job for some. I think that's really a great point Okay, so that's lightning round one word. We'll go around to describe how you see the 2020 race Do you want to start elison? Sure polarizing confusing Too much information out there you're saying yes intriguing Trump God shut up I have to just say uh Change I don't know if I can say it in one word. Um, I really just think it's going to be um enlightening That was um That was bad. Yeah, I wasn't really expecting much Seemed like these were changed people and then they go for buda judge or biden Okay People don't know what they want. I don't know what people want everything is stupid and we are living in hell Like I get it people don't have time people. Um They don't necessarily Have the time to go through and research all these candidates and learn about their histories, but bernie sanders now he's been in congress for 350 years he has the same He's been saying the same things. He has a consistent record I mean if you're an anti establishment pro change candidate, how do you just not like automatically opt? For someone like that Right I don't know. This was soul crushing. Um, I kind of wish that I didn't watch this because it put me in a bad mood but regardless Um, yeah, there you have it. Um white women from swing districts in, uh, pennsylvania They're either raw raw donald trump or they love peep buda judge. Um, or biden So, um, in other words, we are all totally fucked because yeah, these people will uh They may not necessarily decide the primary but they're going to be really important in the general and yes This is just an anecdote, right? This is six people But still I think that these are important because it gives gives us a little bit of insight into the minds of people And um, yeah, that person has drunk the trump kool-aid. So she's too far gone and a lot of them like peep buda judge I mean Who he appeals to it just It makes no sense to me. This is someone who is elitist like you you you support down I think that person who was you know talking about all the things about people to judge that that she liked I think that she was a trump voter. No, am I am I not remembering that correctly? Let me go back to of our pulse of the people and I for trump because All of you for republicans and at times democrats all of you How many of you voted for president obama and then voted for president trump? Okay, so she did explain how he so you went from donald trump to peep buda judge They are polar opposites one had this Anti-establishment pseudo populist appeal because he wasn't an elitist, right? He spoke With you know a third grade level vocabulary and now you're going to peep buda judge who sniffs the smell of his own farts out of a wine glass who speaks 32 languages. I just I don't get it like this doesn't make any sense to me, but um Whatever Mike is the worst progressive on youtube. Please don't subscribe to him or become a patron David dole is so much better. Trust me folks. He's doing a great job. He really is okay