 this is unfinished. I am your host SK Gitonga and this is the only place so we get to finish unfinished matters so as I was going across the streets some of you suggested that we should talk about picketing and on to our first question do you think the government should provide security for people who are picketing? Let me know what you think. Yeah if it's picketing it's like you know stipulated in law they need to have security and I think that's why they should write a letter to whatever officer commanding station for that particular region that will be having demonstrations picketing will require that you help us with the necessary assistance I think yeah they should be provided that has no discussion on it. If somebody is protesting peacefully they don't need any security because if they are protesting peacefully then we don't expect anybody to to to to maybe use any sort of weapon against them because come on a protest peacefully then there's a peaceful demonstration. I'm not repeating myself but actually that's the point. Yes I think they should but do it in a more calm way do it in a way that it shows that we are trying to help you or we're trying to solve this equation or this problem and not in a sense of like we are out there doing like being all violent and everything yeah I think they should. Yes definitely the government should the government should see this like we are at our city to not a tear government to not a tear our our police to not a tear I don't know why that sounds hard to them because I put not a tear say I found an Aleppo 15 25,000 if I'm not wrong So I say I'm sure I can do go I'll talk him to go home go nice to cut a tear meaning him not to be good surely who does that at these times not be a meaning me on a scary me panda be a meaning me on a off time a panda be a meaning me on a killer keep me cool moment you guys doing this together but now let's work as a team to render my otherwise come on a tear back yeah exactly I believe that as per the Kenyan constitution right to peaceful assembly and picket is a is enshrined within it so the government should provide security to the people who are peacefully and picketing and assembling and present the petition to the public authorities so I don't I've really a strongly feel that the government should put them in the I think they should because that's their right but at the same time if I walk in a street and I know that illustrate to come and so neighbor will I go through that street no I'll go in a safer streets you know so why will I need to go somewhere which is not secure to demand security when you can do something to be on the safer side is something that you would avoid it yourself I think it's the right Kenyans should protest if they want to because it's on it's in our constitution you know as Kenyans we stand out in the third world countries because we're third world that's a fact we stand out because we have a very strong constitution but it's up to the Kenyans to stand up for the rights because we have our rights. Yes rioting is in the constitution it's a right for every Kenyan. The police are employed to protect the citizens of Kenya and as long as it's peaceful there is no problem. First of all I don't think the people who are out here demonstrating or I don't think we're doing the demonstrations or the picketing according to like how it's stipulating there in the constitution because you're told we must of all you first of all how to be peaceful first of all I personally I can't I kind of categorize them as riots I don't think people are demonstrating they're kind of rioting because you have work you have you have stones throwing at police and in as much as the police you know which is under the government has the job it has it is mandated to kind of protect people whether they're demonstrating whether they are doing the normal businesses. Yeah the government should provide that security for them because whatever they're doing is trying to communicate to that government so if you can't provide the security at least don't attack them yeah let them just riot in peace. We are Kenyans now we understand the economy because even our president Mr Honrebu Doctor William Samui Ruto Wakatiali joined Koi government thinks were tough too things were tough actually so I don't see any reason for we as Kenyans or youths protesting against our own nation because we are one even if we join this demonstration it's our own economy due to Nyangusha as citizens we should come to understand that we employ these leaders so they should work for us if we're demonstrating we're not demonstrating because we don't have something to do but demonstrating because there's a right that has been taken away from us and we're trying to claim it back so I think the government should protect their citizens. Yes they should provide security for peaceful demonstrators because we have some people who have ulterior motives and of course anywhere where we have like a large crowd we have people who are trying to take advantage so it is very important that we have people who are there to enforce the law. Onto our next question do you think picketing solves the high cost of living let me know what you think it doesn't solve any issue why if I am someone to do on a day-to-day basis I eat on that day so in a mention when a homebillar do something that you could have been avoided if I had stayed to my own place and then the government by the way something is not happening but I ask someone a question because most of us got to generally clearly we do a lot of final nail. So anyway we are the ones who are going to go mandamano because of high taxes so why will we do an unfair justice to the government when we ourselves have not done the right roles. Yes because billy mandamano actually kill a kitty saying a quarter times to again again again billy mandamano root on the corner pressure honestly speaking so it's it's it's triggering it's triggering something to the government you know in a shot at a token a mandamano in a shade here beat us now is not a cup and ability because now ponder so it's like things are at least sight to never survive depending on a month ago a month ago kill a kitty go in a panda to namka kill a kitty me panda fair everything kill a kitty me panda so me know now mandamano at least you know she kill you okay now billy mandamano things would have gone crazy out of this world so do you want to take out the key maju even rising because the cost of living is highly highly going up not really if you look at I'll give an example in Kibra when we have demonstrations there everything is at a standstill and in a place such as Kibra where you know people go out to kind of mix to make the ends meet for the day like you know get money for you know buying food and maybe keep buying other stuff for like that night now if you kind of give them three days of not working then that means there people will go for three days without eating and I remember these are not people like maybe single or something there people are families yeah kids will have to go to school kids even actually don't even go to school people don't go to do to trade to do business to earn money and I you know kind of sustain this themselves for the day so you'll find that people will be hung will stay I will sleep hungry and if you compare it if people decide if you know if you decided like you know let's look for another alternative other than going out and picketing and demonstrating if you know we chose another route that would allow people to kind of do their business but then at the same same time you know kind of how the issues are out in a different way if you have a balance then the economy Mantamano well people have got their voices but then there are a lot that needs to be put in place there are a lot that needs to be put in place and the government has got a system that is a very it has already set in place yeah so Mantamano cannot settle anything well it only shows the concerns of Kenyans concerns of Kenyans what what what really matters to them what they want what they feel comfortable about and then the government now from that point they can be able to go and act on those issues yeah because not everything that Mantamano Waterfanya or their voice not everything the government will comply with Amawata what act on it yeah so it's always upon the government and sometimes before people are finding Mantamano they just ought to sit down and try to figure out what really matters Picketing no actually picketing increases because when we destroy Mashamba in the incident in Thikkarod when we destroy the shops the village market the Mamamboga of your place so yeah I think picketing increasing the mostly I think it's about talking planning and execution picketing only causes a lot of chaos the one we do in Kenya your partner you just chaos that one but if it were peaceful like we just walk and then we just write whatever I want on billboards without creating chaos it be it be better but here to eat on our own I think it's a high time for Kenyans to protest it's in our constitution I mean I want to go to the streets because I want to live a long life but I don't even vote you know because it don't make sense like I'm voting in trash in trash out trash in trash out most of our leaders right now they have cases in court most of them have murdered people most of them have embezzled fans you know it's not like something so I mean say you had a company yeah SK you had a company you had a business yeah you have to employ someone an accountant or financial manager and then you employ someone you know has a case in court or had a case in court would you employ that person so that's what Kenyans do essentially we employ these and expect them to be saints so we're just being stupid foolish and we're just we just we just acting and playing the fool basically yes in a in as much as other people are criticizing picketing of course it has some economic effects and when people peacefully assembly assembled and picket which can solve the high cost only because we have a government whereby they don't they really don't have a touch of what is going with the people on the ground so like having a punitive taxes on basic commodities basically no one can justify that hiking increasing the taxes on basic commodities can solve the high cost of living so I think the government of Kenya only understand the language they mostly understand is a is picketing and when that is done at least it will it will send them some message that the situation is not good on the ground yeah it does it brings to the attention of the government that people are not really comfortable people not happy contrary to what you being advised that people are okay people are not okay so yeah picketing I feel like it does that it does if everything I feel it's still subtle like it needs to be more than picketing but it's at least a volume towards that big voice that's needed so it's one step towards it doesn't it doesn't solve actually it doesn't solve because utter to key to talk as we the person money maybe I'm a to say I'm a to ambient to riot I'm a to end a your picketing the person across our lucky nissi we need to spring here because it could you take me I'm a to taftee you what I do it what I love and yeah our brothers and sisters what I love and yeah it's it kind of does because it brings a sense of like there's something that's in that's in the society that's not working so it brings that question also to the government for them to be like okay wow something is actually not working but at the same time why would you like go and do bad things and like destroy property that makes our economy go down picketing if done in the right way it could actually lead to desired results because the government does get to listen to demonstrators let's take a short break we'll be back with two more questions