 Hello and welcome to the run-up. My name is Nyam Gul Aghaji and as always it's been a pleasure Being with you all through the week and today again. It's another wonderful day The week has been very intriguing and on the show as we have been talking through high points of what is happening in Nigerian politics will be meeting with a very very Important personality. He could have been my colleague. I should have introduced him as my colleague because he is a career journalist It's a media man But today we're not talking to him as a media man because he has branched off into something else He's now in politics and I'm talking about the Governorship candidate of the People's Democratic Party in Lagos here Abdul Aziz or Lajideh at Dede Rom But we'll not be talking with him right away We're just going to take a very very short break and in case you want to be a part of the program You can also send in your tweets on Instagram and Twitter. We are at plus TV Africa Just plus TV Africa send in your questions your comments and everything that you want to contribute to the show this morning Once again, welcome to the run-up. Let's take a short break and return with Jando as we all call him stay with us You're welcome back. We're happy to know that you're still there and watching the run-up You remember that we have a series of Transforming Lagos as we call it and we x-rayed the possibilities of the Lagos we so desire Will a new government becoming in in 2023 to do the magic will we continue with what we currently have in this administration and Before now from 1999 these amongst many are some of the questions that we would like to ask and we have One of the front-running candidates for the number one seat in Lagos state It will be very interesting time on the show. I promise you So it's my pleasure to introduce to you once again Abdul Aziz Oladide aded Iran popularly known as Jando the governorship candidate of the People's Democratic Party here in Lagos. Welcome to the show Yes, I've always wondered why they call you just Jando How do you because sometimes? pet names or Nick names. That's my Nick. Yeah Every GD you call them a lot of people call every GD Jando, but in my own case is Jando because Because I'm Jando That's very interesting life following the crowd. Okay, but you are a career Journalist or media man as I said in my introduction, but now you branch into politics We what inspired you to come into politics and especially to throw yourself up into the ring to Have the number one seat in Lagos. Okay, first, I think at least that is from what you know about journalism it's a profession that From that, you know something about everything and everything about something Okay, and as a broadcast journalist I aside being a broadcast journalist have been around for a very long time as the political correspondence Which actually Supposes me to a whole lot of things in in our country politically narrow it down to Our state here in Lagos. So it has gotten to a point where doing nothing Changes nothing and then we all of us can sit down for the hams because of course, you know In the state of Lagos there is this conspiracy of silence a lot of things are not going on right but everybody kept quiet for Obvious reasons and whatever it is. So and some of us believe that you know what we can't continue this way We just have to see what we can do to change the narratives so and if you don't have any other places to go or you can call a home then you have to come Around and join in the process and joining the process meaning that lets everybody contribute a quota and see how we can Write the wrongs, you know, there are a lot of wrongs in the state of Lagos and then if we speak about peculiarity we'll be talking about a state that Is confronted with so many issues ranging from unemployment poverty flood issues traffic I mean health Issues and even our education as we speak we have about two million out of school children So how can anybody be comfortable with that in the state that generate a whole lot of money and with which you know Whole lot of what's it called? So and we feel it is normal some of us feel it is normal to Continue to sit down. We said oh, you know what it is not normal, but for us, you know We know how it is. We know we're going to be fighting against what you can call principalities You know, and that's why we started this journey seven years ago Today the journey has taken us to the ballot where we then need to speak to legosians what we were doing differently I've spoken about all of these areas of concern, which you know What we got confront us as people of legacy, but if we pick it one after the other Yeah, we'll come to picking it one after the other But let's just have a background to you as a person especially in your political career You started off as an APC member you are even I don't know if you still are but the chairman of legos for legos So let's first of all start by knowing why did you leave the APC? okay, um, of course, yes, we started agitation within the APC and But we know from day one that By by doing by so doing we have committed what you can call an unpardonable sin within the APC What is that sin is that sin is that? Nobody no member of that party born out of a woman Have any rights to aspire on his own especially for the office of governor of legal states The moment you sleep wake up and feel that you can do it So the owner of the party marked you as somebody who can never be so he prefers calling people We never envisioned to go man We never prepared to be in office, you know to say you come and be and and that's the result we've gotten over the years in our own case we Believe in ourselves and we believe it about time we have to to do that so where you have somebody Who never plan to be in office? We never aspire to be in office, you know being called upon to come and run the office It shows that that person would forever be at your mercy and that's why in the Last 23 years in the state of Lagos, we've only had one governor because it's the one Let me just give it a little so to corroborate this I read something this morning on on Moorick platform and I was laughing. What is that thing? There is this issue about a job, you know in secondary school in Lagos And it's been in court over the years and so June this year. So print cuts gave a judgment, you know in favor of Muslim community that they have rights to use a job To schools as it's June. This is December. So the government of Lagos did not do anything You know respecting the judgment of the Supreme Court until Moorick had to do a press release appealing to a she was well I met in Umbu, you know in that press release and I also with him Thinking that is an election. Yeah, he had to instruct somebody who denied instruct the HOS To not be a letter. This is what we want to change. I mean, it's about time We have an independent governor in the state of Lagos. So when we started our agitation within the APC, we knew we won't get it there but what our plan was in the first place is that look there is no how we can take this state from them Accept and I'll say we create Implosion within the ruling party which we did successfully and move to the PDP and that's why today What PDP needs to cross that threshold is what we have brought in from APC, you know Because it's a party that been doing 35 to 40 percent every election cycle So what they need now is what we have brought into PDP and they know the status could know that this is their end game PDP is taking over in 2023. We're going to win them And if you looked at our campaign strategy, it's something that has never been done before we're visiting all the words Because it's not just about being governor I want to be governor that would understand my state very well as well visiting every word so far. We have done 95 words Let me bust a bubble. Do you know that in this state this? Lagos that they are using to campaign for their presidential election. There are some community in this case I've not seen lights for 15 years 16 years I Can give I can give you specifics You know in what be one in the Pelo Kagome that is a place called is a community in in the same Bejuliki all of this access where we even have the refineries and all that you can imagine No hospitals, you know, like people give birth inside the kennel because they don't have hospital We went to a community called Riba community in what Siwan under a Pelo Kagome We drove in 19 kilometer terrible road in dark waters to get to that community That community the only block that you see there which the corporate center was built in 1982 No, not the equipment. Nothing in that. Nothing absolutely nothing. So me going through that Access I didn't know that, you know, I can create a path in that road from a little bit junction You know on a guy best best way and create a road that will lead to what we call a tomb So from a tomb that will really to battle it. So anybody that is going to a church or from the axis Don't have business on a jar. Oh, yeah, yeah, and all of those and we just cut off and all of that So you can't even know that you can do that if you have not gone through that That is what we've been busy doing going to every world so that we understand it So that when we get to office, we know how to fix this problem that is facing us. We have you know Schools in those areas those communities no teachers. Nobody wants to go there In fact, let me even get let me tell you something when I when I planned with my team that we're going to go to that Reba community One of the security guys Deployed to that area called me and said be careful this place that you're going to my colleagues when they and this is what happened to To that person and I was like look I want to be governor of legal states So I should have a place that can't visit So that you know, it's not to scare anybody to say you don't go there, but I went there and nothing happened so we were speaking to Why do we have a poverty rate as we speak of 8.5 percent as against 4.5 percent when this government came into office is because the places we're supposed to give attention We don't give it attention and again We have an employment rates in the state of Lagos now as I speak 37.16 percent as against 14.6 percent when it came to office, you know in 2019 yet with the fact that he said it has pumped over 10 billion naira into legal state and employment trust fund So you didn't start asking your question asking questions. Where has this money gone to? I don't know but nobody's talking everybody just feel it's okay And and that's that's where we find ourselves But again, it's not speaking about the problem. We know the problems are there that is what we're here It's how do we resolve this already? Okay? We'll go to those specifics now, but One thing I mentioned was that you are or you were part of the Lagos for Lagos. What's the philosophy behind that Lagos for Lagos? Absolutely. It's a Lagos that work for everybody. I'll tell you how we started I told you I was in APC and we started this Lagos for Lagos movement within APC because we wanted Lagos that work for Everybody as again the current Lagos that works for just one man would decide who is the chairman or local government? Who is the Counselor in my words with even the king in my village and When one is just a moment. Sorry. When you say league Works for everybody would like a definition of everybody's because body respect you away You're from okay because the speculations were that it has to be indigents of Lagos that can only No, no, no, no, it's it's just an agitation you know that We the true owners of the land, you know started with but of course we know that Lagos if anybody speak of our Lagos today has been The wealthiest state in Nigeria. We won't take out the contributions of our brothers in our lab International marketing as Panda in Laddipo We know how much they have contributed into this economy. They are part of us They will continue to be part of us and that is why in our own government We will ensure that all forms of harassment in their market on the road We put a stop to it because we know what it takes for somebody to come into your economy to play, you know Invest money employ people turn out turn it around and pay taxes to you But the current administration you won't blame them because the man with the governor and his deputy all their lives They've never you know employ people before they've always been salary earners So you wouldn't know what it takes to run an economy if you've never had any cost of source for fund You know turn it around employ people and still make profits repay that money And so you understand what it is to run an economy So there's somebody that sits and what can sit at the end of 30 days You want to collect money whether they own out the business make profit or not You then give such a people economy of Lagos to run Some would argue that if if you are good enough at managing people you get the people that will do the job for you Okay, so this is where I differ This is this person Always come to say I made these people. I made that people. He made that we made that look We don't need you to make anybody No, no, no, no, no Give us institution Jack one day was governor in this stage. You can nobody remembers who were Jack on this commissioner But today there are things that are speaking to Jack on these performance and and and and credibility has governor of Lagos They I don't if I understand so you were busy making these people for your own selfish You know and so it won't work. We don't need it to be built institution for us forget If you if you have a right institution You write you have the right people coming out of that. So what is no, no, no The fact is because somebody want to continue to be the governor of legacy That is why you pick somebody we never prepared we never envisioned to go on to say hey You come and be sit down there and that person will be at your mercy You are the owner of the structure the moment to pull the rug that person was going nowhere Okay, look at him buddy. What did I buddy do wrong now? I'm but they came as governor of Lagos state. It did well as governor of Lagos under for I keep saying it I said in two years of embody we have seen a lot of development in the state of Lagos like the I just fly over a bullet by fly over a gigi-pen cinema fly over and some of this in a rose that this guy built and Suddenly somebody said you can't go anymore and the guy couldn't do anything or pointy tomorrow Disappeared into thin hair. So I looked at myself at my little is this what I want to do No, that's not what I want to do. So I pulled out so just to let you know I could also be governor the same manner all these people have been going on I chose this route because I don't want to be that governor that would always require a Second level approval before I can make Lagos work for the people of Lagos Okay Now there's been so many acquisitions against you And you just raised a point here now that they suppose Godfather Decides who becomes governor even when they are not prepared now some people say that In spite of all odds you were naged on some agreements within the PDP and you chose Funke Akinde Lee as your deputy who a lot of people feel was not prepared Is it not the same thing that you're accusing the ABC of? No, no, no What informed you a choice of funke if you if you first it's it's my It's my constitutional right to choose. Yes, who will be my deputy within or without the party let's put it there and The issue of agreement or no agreement. I think we'll just analyze it in this manner If you have an agreement with somebody he shows that that agreement has been there You don't have agreement on on so I run for Office to pick the ticket of the party just like a rather person and In the process I had some people who stepped down for me and is stepping down for people I don't think is something that you do in secrecy The people that stepped down for me actually address the press conference They came to my office announced they are stepping down and everybody knew they are stepping down and The deal of the primary so about six of us were the First meeting before going to the venue to have the primary so three people actually stepped down You know and the person they said we had an agreement with was in that meeting He didn't step down We'll get to the venue. So if you have had an agreement, I don't think that person should be at that meeting point in the first place I don't know if I understand. Okay, let's say we say he found himself there by accident and the first Second third people were saying that they are also stepping down at that point I think at that point somebody also have say me I have long step down because we had an agreement I won't be part of it. So nothing of that came up. So I think I want to leave that matter there I've tried to address this matter, of course It's something that you know touches one's character and integrity, but I can say here that no Agreements with anybody as a matter of fact this person actually applied to be my deputy and I have evidence of that application Document it in documents signed by him to say we like to be my deputy if you had agreement I don't think you need to apply to be my deputy wasn't the only person that applied to be my deputy But anyway, that's that's that's is gone because we won't be discussing it is another party now think him Is is trying to put his popularity to test which is fine. It's constitutional rights, but that is not my person My person is that the people even let me go tell you one of the people that stepped down for me Picked a Senate ticket. There is an aunt of mine now that is not talking to me I'm sure we're still going to say to our mother is not talking to me. Why was because she wanted somebody else You've wanted me to support somebody else for that senator. I said and I was like, no This guy stepped down for me. I think we're going to throw a bit behind him to pick that Senate ticket And I stood by that Okay, let's go into specifics now some of the things that you have mentioned and others that I'm sure we need to talk About let's start with education because you have you have I call it trans border Cross border or the variety is you started your education here in Nigeria. You went to Vienna from Vienna You went to us and then to Oxford in the UK. Okay, so and we've seen that in Lagos state Lagos state has less than I think less than a thousand Schools public schools, but we have up to 20,000 private institutions out of 20,000 private institutions only about 5,000 approved by government So then there was this thing I saw just this morning was reading up on it and I saw that The reviewed list of the best 27 schools in Lagos barely had a name or two Which was a public school every other one was a private school So it speaks to two things one of them is the quality of education within the public schools and two is the inadequacy of These public schools that can cater to the needs of the people of Lagos that they say are 10% of Nigeria's population Let's start with the standard of education What would you do differently to bring up the standard of education so that they can be ranked among? The first maybe 10 even in Lagos. Okay, so let's let's put it this way You see in in in government Lagos. We have looked at What is what you call our peculiarities and how do we approach them because every state has got his own peculiarities? now first we have issues of Over two million out of school children Secondly, we have issues boarding on infrastructure decay we also have issues on quality like you speak to and shortage of teachers and and you know, but We are coming in to first declare what you call an emergency or an education sector in the state of Lagos and First what we need to first achieve is how do I take all these children of mine of the street of Lagos first in first and So that we can reduce that number drastically I know it is not in one day that will quickly put together Infrastructure that is going to accommodate them because we don't have enough infrastructure to accommodate them I know some of the things that inform some of them being out of school is because perhaps some don't have Uniforms to take to school. Yes, this is the same. They are doing Free education, but we are coming to do free and compulsory education. So quickly Let me tell you I'm going to tackle this first. We're coming to ensure that all primary and secondary school student poopies and students as it may be have three school uniforms from the government and this uniform we have decided that look at tillers within all the local government Which we produce for the schools within that look at them. So by so doing will also be put in You know boosting the any powers of the local and that's how to Boost economy and that's that's on one side But the most important one taking our children out of school is what we have looked at just like you mentioned We have at least over 18,000 Private schools in Lagos among which only five thousand is registered. So for us we intend to Collaborate with these private schools and see how I can take these children out of school and spread them across You know these private schools in return for tax incentives or holiday as maybe I'll provide all the things They need learning learning aids and uniform, you know in that school and I say, you know what can you take them? You know Off the street for me This is what I'm going to provide and this is what we're going to have While I then look at how to improve on the infrastructure of public schools and see how they can come in I would have achieved something at least take them off the streets, you know And you know and do that then secondly we have issues with teachers There is this new law which approved that teachers should now have a 40 years In service and 65 years of age, you know before retirement I know that League of State government hasn't implemented a law but in our own case We will not only implement a law we already called those that have been retired to return to class To complete the number of years this will do two things one bring back more people into the system Also assist in mentoring from those that were just going to be Employing into into that system and we'll then back on rigorous training for them Let me tell you what the current governments like to do in they will build blockwalks You know foods Furnitures and painted and they say they have given education. What about content? You know, you can actually you cannot teach people Okay, you see when you go to university abroad, so you'll be wondering where are all the landmass of University of Ife University of Ibadan and all of that what you see is just one building and in that one building You see the kind of content that we turn out. So it's not really about yes, of course There's no for infrastructure, but it's about the content is about the quality of the teachers that you employ To impart knowledge on this paper No, if some teach the people they are children at home But they have the right curriculum and content to pass on to them and they turn out to be so in our own case We are also introducing into our curriculum We've looked at it with my team and say look if it means that we have to go to West Africa Examination council and for us to get this done We have we need vocational training to be because today what you see is that after university days all our sisters and brothers They're just going into fashion designing. So if we can Start that from secondary school days, you know, and they have it So you don't even need to waste another four three years after that to go and learn and begin to work because there's nothing to do So this is what we're looking at to say, you know what we're going to ensure that we have free and compulsory education Somebody asked me where are we going to get this money from because we looked at what this scheme of free uniform is going to cost us in a fiscal year and it comes to about 24 to 25 billion era and it's like we have a lot of a lot of Lawful but morally wrong Organizations that are taking free money from legal states that we can say, you know what is we are done Can we plow that money back here and we get what we need? So we we we intend to declare a state of emergency in this and we look at the others About 13,000 other private school and looked at them to see how we can standardize and see how we can But who would improve on have been to 95 words all of these what I've been to you need to see the state of how many out of 245 In just less than one month You need to see it. That's a lot you need to see and that's about 80 local government in total You need to see the state of our schools in terms of infrastructure and the likes It is horrible. It is and you you know, there are pictures of those things So when I go on that cheap, I just don't go to campaign. Yes, I'm company But we're taking note of all of this is because we are returning them to make life better for the people. Okay. Well In case you're just joining us is they run up on plus TV Africa And you can also be a part of this conversation We are having with the governorship candidate of PDP in Lagos here that we popularly call Jan Doe we've just had these Tweets coming in and it's on transportation Someone was asking because our next point is actually transportation and now that we're happy that this tweet came in What you're going to do about? The touts that we have in these Lagos, but let's before we get to that There's a lot on transportation. First of all, we've talked about Schools now The gridlock in Lagos is terrible and the government or the people felt okay at some point Maybe the only solution is to go with the bikes for instance the bikes were banned and the tied that to insecurity and All that first of all when you come will you continue with that policy? What's your policy for transportation like that will make Lagos free of the gridlock that we find almost on daily basis and What alternatives are you going to offer? Okay, so there are two different issues you're speaking to now Transportation and traffic management, but let me say For traffic management which again It would inform with a new idea fresh a fresh ideas on on transportation in Lagos you see a serious government would sit down and Take a critical analysis of a state very well the state you want to govern very well So what do I mean? You look at flash points You know the peculiarity of your state. I'll give you an example. I can give you two example Of what you know and what you need to do and they're just there now Let's take Let's take the number third million base traffic We know traffic goes to the mail and the money returns to the island in the evening, but We can reduce that If we if you really want to do that if you if you're coming from a kegia, you know When you get to On your left you see an expanse of land You know facing the waterways And I think if you truly want to decongest the third million bridge in the morning All we need to do is to dredge that water and build a park and ride in that place For people to ferry themselves from that place to the to the island And you will see that a lot of people coming from either my good or from anywhere going to the island Holy just go there and park it as you involve the private sector in all of this and you get that and you're able to take some You know cars off that road in the money Again, if you're also coming, you know in that money, you know from motorway seven up What you see is traffic coming up in the morning. Yeah, but if you look at that end, there is a very wide medium In that place from that point to Bagada interchange What are we doing with that wide medium? We can close it. We give us additional policy I don't want to hear it's a federal road. Is this road is that the road is your state You know, I mean, I mean close it and give you more leads. I'm coming So the same thing is the same thing is where you're coming from the third military descending that place You see it there now and there are some areas What you need to do is just to fly over those intersections This leaky Maga axis you have terrible traffic every time in this axis Why do you have it because that is the only route that leads you to everywhere you want to go to So we need to create an alternative routes I mean through a gumball before, you know, you to get to when you do by creating alternative routes for people to To fly and all this intersection that you start breaking to do it All you need to do is just to fly them over How much will it cost us to do a ramp that will take you off those intersections? In every places you have it You understand what I'm saying? So there are some places you don't have issues with that place What you have is the same people our government empower to keep harassing us in the name of tout The way the one doing all sort in that place and nobody so what in this is just a government to come and say, you know what I don't want to see here again. I keep saying this Will you have alternatives for them or these doubts that we're talking about? Agboros in Lagos are an institution and that's why the person in twitter is asking and a lot of people Let me answer that person. Let me answer that person in twitter. You see There are no Agboros in Lagos What we have in Lagos terrorizing us Is actually our government because if they wanted to stop today it will stop today That's why I said hi Jando We put a stop to any form of harassment on our routes now This thing you call national union of road transport workers. All of us know that they are they are legal Of course, they're legal union But because we're giving them more power because we turn them to tools You know the government of the day has turned them to tools You know to oppress opposition to oppress the people of Lagos. That is where they are what they have So they have a park Where they they are restricted where they should be doing their business doing their union business and you know And even making their money because they make money in that park So as governor of Lagos state rather than using them as tools as negative tools that this one is using I will also use them as tools what tools I'll tell you Uh, I've given I've given that example look at me and say what are you are you serious? I said, yes If you are if you are in control of Ojota garage and you are there as the chairman of Ojota garage You know what we have currently In Lagos is people come During traffic or break your glass with your car take your belongings and run away inside traffic You know we have that often so if you are in charge of Ojota garage All I need to see to that person is a look the day they rob anybody in this corridor That's the day I'm going to take this garage away from you. You will see that they will secure it You will see that they will secure that call that is safe. They are not even the one robbing people there And because of the money that person is making In that garage that I wouldn't want to lose in the name of chairman It wouldn't wouldn't mind during traffic pick period asking his boys to go and stand on the road make sure nobody does anything there Just so keep it so it's it's a leadership problem. It depends on how You want to run your state? So we have a leadership issue in this state and that's that's the solution to many of our problems Okay, don't forget on instagram and twitter is at plus tv africa So send in your questions would like to flash some of these questions that have been Asked on twitter so that we get to answer these questions. A lot of people are trying to reach us on twitter So as as much as possible, let's try to take these ones But as we wait for those questions to come up We're looking at the internally generated revenue of lego state The igr of lego state seems to be Bigger than even that of a country like gana and gana is doing well and from 600 million that we hear Prior to 1999 and then within six years in 2006 The commissioner then of finance was saying that it was up to 5.5 billion per month and it is still growing as we speak Is there anything that you think you can do differently that will make it even grow more than that? Okay. Yes, of course The state of legos is blessed Okay, and I've spoken to our problem being leadership problem um I know we do more than even what what is declared and we can do more I'm not going to speak about all these Rhetorics about 600 million to the question to ask is where is the money? We can't even see this revenue on the street of legos and you go about posting and say this so some people Let's drop that anyway. Let's let's focus on I I just gave you one of our scheme We have a lot of money In the informal sector that we've not been able to tap And all we need to do is how to see how we can migrate You know some of this sector From informer to former So that we'll be able to put them in the tax net of legos. I just give an example of our school uniform scheme You know, it's not just about giving look at the laws, you know that contract I would give it to them and by so doing I'll be using that to migrate them from informer to former Putting them into the tax net of the state of legos and before you know it We're increasing our IGR. I don't even understand and There are other ways to also block lupus in this time and age Yes, we have issues with the people In that sector where you have so much money in the carry market and all of this You can make it easier for us by creating just as little as a ussd code to say, you know What you can pay your tax by dialing stars also in your phone and you get it done we have more money, you know by so doing because The the the the former sector is doing fine. Of course, you can track their enemies. They can pay You understand I'm saying but the informer suffers from multiple taxation as well. You see that's the that's the problem if you need to Like what is happening in lego state now you have They will tell you they have a monist Yeah, that state is taking everything but the local governments is going back You know to harass these people and take some money So they don't even understand what are we paying and what is it that we're paying We were paying to so what we need to do as a government is to be transparent To say, you know what? These are money deals to the local governments if we are monizing We have a monist to ensure that one of payment is what you do and we're sharing, you know between us You understand, but If you don't do that You have given you have given room for all of that to happen and Getting more money is also depending on you the governor of the state and how you look at your economy Let me give you an example. We have something Currently that is playing out We were not allowed to deploy Outdoor in legos And this is the season Where that sector of our economy Makes more money Before they make another money it will be the next four years Now as a government You restricted them Just to your own Signage is a loan Aside from that you've taken everything and given to one son of your whoever, but you're not allowing them to make money So you're killing your own economy I don't even understand you're taking any pass from people Not taxis that you're supposed to come into your coffer You're not getting it just because you want to play politics. There are two different things You can brand the entire state for all you care. It doesn't mean that you're not going to lose election in 2020 They are going to lose election 2023. Let them brand it. You only got some painted, you know, whatever it is So this is speaking to how you can increase You have to be deliberate about it if you need more money And you just have to do it not minding what sources god By saying no, no, no, no, no let them put whatever they want to put that they provided are going to pay But maybe they're paying I'm saying that do you know how much money that we would have invested in legal economy that they have prevented us from doing Do you know how how much money the the outdoor company? I mean would have and and you see that's where I have issues even these people kept quiet Nobody's protesting everybody just kept quiet somebody should come out and say you are taking business away from us And the ones that you are displaying no point that you're not even paying them So what's the point? Okay, well, we're talking about increasing the idea that is where you can increase your idea Is it possible to have something on the screen now? From the social media, uh, we can just okay, uh, debate ox Saying honorable janjo your plan to empower tell us is great How will you be able to fund providing school uniforms for all pupils in public schools? Thank you Um You want to take that now? Well, yes very briefly. I just said it. I just said that when I was speaking to to it that look It costs Just 24 billion era. I mean the 70 we have inflation that will take it a little bit higher By the time we get to office in the fiscal year and like I said we have some Companies in Lagos We're not even touching the you know existing idea All we need to do this is to put in our fiscal policy for that year But however, we have some companies in Lagos that are taking money from us You know, I call them legally right company But morally wrong in times of what they are doing and we will just say, you know what all these But nine billion that it take from our state on the monthly basis. Can we have it? We have Where to deploy them? So the money is there. We're going to pluck loopholes We're going to ensure that we increase our money and don't forget Given these people this job to do is also migrating them from informer to former sector We will in turn give us more money in terms of taxation. Okay. When you talk of Lagos, uh, people refer to it as The state of aquatic splendor. That's what everybody calls it yet We don't seem to see the marked advantages of Lagos being Uh a city surrounded by water except that of course you have the ports which are clogged anyway And we don't even have access to these ports So what are you going to do for Lagos to be able to take advantage of these ports, especially or for instance Someone would expect that a state like Lagos should be An exporter of fish for instance because it's in the waters But these things are not being done So what are you going to do about the water situation and use it to your advantage? Okay, two things. Um We're going to open there are two issues in that That we call blessing of ours. We're going to open our coastal line For tourism public invite players to come And give us, you know a Miami like infrastructure And on our coastal line Okay, all we need to do and this we're going to do, you know why we've they've not been able to do it with the current administration that has been there for the past 23 years is because Every time they want, you know, organized private sector to come and play in our economy Somebody's asking for equity Allegedly somebody's asking for sticking their business and they feel like you know what we're going But in this situation, we're going to open it up for People to come and play we we have we have a coastal line of over 90 kilometers Isn't up to 180 kilometers that is there for them to play that's one if you look at our blueprint Everybody will tell you they're going doing agriculture in our cases aqua culture Because of course, like I said, you have to understand the peculiarity of your state of the state you want to govern So this is what we're doing. We're paying more attention You have you have a blueprint. Absolutely Can we see the blueprint somebody because we've been hearing of blueprints of the Lagos No, no, no, no. I released on on the day that high neck asked us to start campaign It was the day I released the stoppage of my business. It's up. It's there. It's everywhere I released it. I released a worthy agenda So in in this we are focusing on aqua culture Because we know yes, we are not an agrarian state. We have water We're a state of just the call it a quartz explainer and we're making sure that we were paying attention You know, I met with local fishermen on my On my tour Deliberately asked her and we need to meet with them. They spoke about their challenges. That's okay as a government We're going to make sure we create a hub that everybody will know This is where you want to go to where you need in Napae You know, we're doing we're doing that in Napae We're doing that in Bad Agri and so that we'll be able to export what we have That is what we have. It's there. All we need to do is clean up the water for our people Make sure there are storage and all of those invite players to come give them a namely environment And before in in the one year you will see what would have turned coastline to and like I said bringing players to come because Tourism, you know, there's something we call mice in tourism meeting Conferences and all of those things If you don't have what we bring people there people won't come. So if we make use of our coastline And to see this is what we're building hotels conference and conference Centres and all of that We don't have to use government money to be that can call you here come and build this thing And then let's let's discuss I give you an emblem environment to that and you're making money as a business Person so he would drive automatically drive people there. So we have this contact in Lagos Let's let's just take some more questions from some twitter if possible all the questions that are available Michael Akinio is saying obvious to everyone godfatherism is the major reason for failed governance in lager state thus far What would you do differently to take out the influence of godfatherism in lager state when you emerge as governor? come 2023 Well, I think I started that from from apc And when some people were saying to me while in pdp that Our leader said I didn't pick his son. I mean his friend's son As tepiti That is why he's angry with me And I said no our leader just said to you that jandu is going to be an independent governor I think i'm just gonna leave it at that Okay, uh, that's that's nice, but but everybody is concerned about the fact that PDP has always been in the opposition And no matter what they have done in the past, I wouldn't say they didn't do well But no matter what they've done in the past like you said yourself They've been having like 35 percent maybe to 40 percent of the votes every election year What do you think what is the greatest selling point that you think pdp has now? I know you've mentioned some of the things but the greatest selling point you think pdp has now that Will probably give them that a needed victory that you're talking about. Okay, so let me break it down this way um For this in this election we have 69 Candidates in all 40 hours of assembly I'm 24 hours of reps And then my 73 senators and my seven my deputy and if you look at all of us In that in that number about 30 42 percent of us are under the age of 40 That number and under the age of 47, I think we have under 24 percent So in choosing who fly uh flags we've been able to first change the narrative and look at you know What lego's needs really which we call a breath of fresh air In bringing people who are mentally and physically fit To be in office to run as fresh ideas new thinking that's number one number two is that The 2023 election is unlike the previous election We've been having where even if you are winning at the polling unit before the daybreak something has changed But now it's an election where you Win and we should be won and lost at the polling unit. Okay, and that's that's there But it can change anything anywhere and also It's not an election for a lazy man You know, you need to put in a hard work To convince people speak to people and let them get it And for those who understand the nature of the trade and know where they vote her You focus on where to get those numbers somebody accused me and said gendo How come you've not been speaking to the business communities? We see that how you've been doing at grassroot works I said, of course, I know that I would have to speak with the business community But I think the understanding of the of the game is taking my attention to where the numbers are for now I know the business community in one session that we have a conversation and I speak my policy to them They grab it. They know what where they're going aside the fact that it is the community also belong to We we never join the process. We'll just sit down and be complaining and be tweeting and be asking questions So that is why the government of the day never took us serious They will just go to the grassroot speak to them give them whatever they need get the numbers and What has that given us? So it is the community that has left the selection choices To those that will just follow one person and do it. Okay. Okay. Not the other way Let's just go to uh, twitter right now again and take one last question And and possibly we'll tie that to something else lego state is borrowing 350 billion naira to fund 2023 budget Having borrowed over 200 billion in the last three years This has pushed lego's debt to over one trillion naira highest in the country What will you do when you win continue to borrow or how are you going to make your money? And you know very briefly because our time is up. Okay, you let let me just add this What specifically are you going to do for the youth? So will you finish answering this? Just also tell us quickly. Let me let me speak to this. There is nothing wrong in borrowing if you do Uh a budget and there is deficits, of course You have to borrow because all of this is based on projection Now the problem that we have is borrowing and not utilizing it for the purpose upon which it was borrowed This person i mean the current governor has borrowed 255 billion in in the last three years that has been there Growing our look at debt now to 7 97 billion naira now And there is nothing to show for this borrowing Absolutely nothing on the street of lego's to show for this borrowing So it is not about whether you want to borrow of course if you have a deficit lego state has The resilient to you know, um to take whatever amount of money you want to take but what we're speaking to is that how do you Where's the money? Where's the money gone to that's what we should ask now He said he wants to borrow another 350 billion to fund the 2023 anyway. He's not going to run that budget We are going to run that budget anyway, so we'll come back to that one But the question we need to ask is where is the 255 you're taking gone to we can see it on the street of lego's With all the revenues that has accrued and their budget in the last three years You know they've been reporting over 80 performance both in expenditure and revenue And put all of those together and you ask yourself where the money go to no I spoke to unemployment rated the other time. It was 14.6 percent when this guy came to everybody left there 14.6 percent Now it is 37.16 percent after you claim you have pumped 10 billion naira into lego state employment transfer So the question is where did the money go to you can't I mean, I don't know you can't meet something So it shows that that money didn't even do anything that money for that impoverished the people So it shows nothing has happened in the last three and a half years So yes, we know he's been borrowing but borrowing to do nothing down if I ask them what they've done They will speak to the 27 kilometer light ray blue blue blue line That that started 13 years ago That is originally meant to go from marina to koko maiku now they're shorting it from marina to maitu And they're celebrating, you know, when we have In moroku al-borak of 320 something kilometer done in six years Jando We can be here and then tell you everything. Okay. You spoke about the youth So you have less than a minute now Yes, just ask me what we're going to do for ourselves for us in our blueprint We are creating technological options all the five divisions of lego's So if we do this we'll train because a lot of things are going on now fintech Like this new cbm policies when I saw it I start back to say this is the time We need to put our thinking cap on and see how our youth You know who want to be in fintech can quickly get a startup trained and push them into the economy Because this thing will take it to on the sms and somebody to assist them in that by saying this is how we're going to run With this new policy. Okay. I would really like to thank you at this point It shows that we didn't finish what we needed to talk about and we have to Go off this segment now take the news and continue the program with something else after the news But we'd like to especially thank those of you who were able to send in messages from Twitter on Twitter and on Instagram and we hope that you'll do more of that in Subsequent days we've been talking with the governorship candidate for pdp that we just popularly call Jando and he's been here telling us what he's going to do And we'd like to thank you so much for coming on the show this this morning We hope that you win If it is God's grace All right, that's how it's been talking with Abdul Aziz or large day at the de ron popularly known as jando And come 2023 it it promises to be very very very interesting But we'll take this break now and take the news and we'll return with something else on the show. Thanks for being there