 After every course run, we have one of these sessions and good to see the people. So, today I am just going to give you some, I believe most of you have heard me earlier also. So, I am not going to get back to the old stories of NPTEL and all that. Some basic updates on where we are at this stage. And also I would like to spend some time today listening to all of you. That is more important I believe and that is the purpose of these SPOC workshops to really understand what the needs are. So, yeah, first we will do some reportings on where we are at the moment. And then of course Angana will talk about the some information on the SPOC's and developments there also. And also there are a couple of slides about the future course of action. There are some points that we would like to make and I would like to take your feedback on this. It is not that these are really something which have been implemented already, but before implementing it I would like to get some feedback from you. Yeah, so this is something which I have talked about earlier also, but after the last SPOC workshop where the total video hours were 36,000, now we have reached to 40,000. So, which is fairly every semester if we keep running like this, I am sure no other online people who offer online courses would be able to match us. Not even you know MIT or Coursera or any other application that way. So, we have 40,000 video hours, subtitles, last time it was 26,000, last six months about 3,000 more video hours have been added. There were about close to 423 if I remember correctly, million NPTEL website views which has gone up to 430, 1.3 million YouTube subscriptions, text transcripts for about 35,000. This is going slightly slow, last time it was about 34,000 or so, but still about 1,000 hours have been added to this, 1,500 plus courses, last time it was 1,300 if you remember. And of course 300 million YouTube views we have not really this remains the same because we have not really taken the Google analytics for the YouTube hits, but I am sure this has also gone up. So, from March 2014 till date, we have completed about 740 courses only on MOOCs. There have been 36 lakhs plus enrollment across the courses and 2.7 lakhs number of registrations in the exams. And I believe these numbers that are growing every day would never be possible without really active participation from all of you and I would really take this opportunity to thank all of you for being so active in this national endeavor. Thank you very much. For all. Yes, I think so. This vision mission is enough, let us move on. I have already talked about it many times. So I would like to spend some time on these two slides. These are I may have shown this particular image earlier also, but if you really look at it that is for those who are coming for the first time components of a MOOC have all these five parameters. You have course content which is in the form of video lectures. You have assignments, objectives, objective programming based. You have text transcript plus lab demos. You have live interactivity, interactive sessions by the faculty and also discussion forums. Now, what is very important and that is what I am observing and particularly it happens when we like in the last semester we offered a white listed course for the students or final year students of Abdul Kalam Technical University. Now what happens when you are doing a white listed course you know that these are the students and you can keep a much better track of their activities, what they are doing. Now based on that we can also do some analysis of how others might be using it. The feedback that we got from many colleges is that we have to devise and that is something I believe you have to devise strategies within your institutions. Once the course content is uploaded how do we ensure that students are actually seeing the lectures. You would not believe the kind of experiences which were quite shocking for me this time that we had after offering this course. Before the examinations a particular college came up and said our students are not registered for this course and we knew that we are offering the courses course for them. They were students who did not know that assignments have to be submitted. You know these are things which SPOC's through the mentors have to you know look at how at least you communicate to the students. I am sure you can at least send a mail to the students community or at least have a poster or something find out whatever suits in your institution some strategies to at least reach out to the students continuously and this is all what we require actually. This is basically a slide that talks about learners engagement with the course content. All that we are expecting is for the students to watch video lectures of three to four hours every week. Even otherwise if they are registered for a course they are expected to attend classes. Now here we are not compelling them to come to the class 8 o'clock sharp in the morning with the bell. All we are saying is now you can also check your lectures on your mobile phones. So all you do is just find out some time in a week to listen to these lectures. It will only help you, I mean help your students. Assignments largely if you take it up as something which is like a like a load or a pressure or something that may not work. The the main objective of giving assignments and I and you all of us teach is only for the students to realize and test themselves where they stand and that is something which you need to communicate to the students. O exam ke liye parna or you know looking at the guidebooks and preparing for the exams your seniors in notes leke preparing for the exams. These are very short term goals and that's something which needs to be communicated to the students that this is not going to do any good to them. Of course, notes, text transcripts, references they are being made available as much as possible. Generally what we are observing at least in in this case also that out of these 45,000 students who really registered for the courses I would say only 2 to 3 percent of that were seriously asking questions. Now again I can understand there could be many reasons for it. I mean maybe one of the major reasons that I have observed my teaching is many students feel that if they ask a stupid question then people may laugh at them. And that's precisely the reason why they don't ask questions. Now I don't know I have started this practice and it's working out well not for online courses but you could also perhaps try this out when you teach courses. There are certain points given to the students every week which is based on whether they have asked some questions or not posted some questions or not. And that's something which becomes very important because if you really ask a question whether it's a good question or a bad question doesn't matter. If it's a bad question which essentially means that it's a simple question you should know the answer or it is also possible that what you're asking is does not have an answer but that doesn't matter. Finally it is very important to hold a question ask a question until unless one does that and that is something which needs to be encouraged. It's not just about listening to video lectures and appearing for the exams and completing assignments on time until unless we really really inculcate this habit in them of asking questions I don't think we are doing the right job as teachers. They need to be inquisitive and that's perhaps one of the things which becomes very important for all of us as teachers to understand. Yeah so as compared to July 2017 the number shows we have gone down but this does not really include the white listed courses. So like in AKTU there were 45,000 students registered in one course there were similarly many other courses which were offered which were white listed so we have not really included these courses because we cannot report this to the ministry directly as part of the statistics that we have. Therefore this looks less this time but it is actually higher than the last number. So about 9,34,156 students enrolled for the courses out of them about 86,942 students registered for the exams and about 76,125 students appeared for the exams that's basically the highest so far and I'm sure this time is going to go up again. Those who are registering and equal number to appearing in the examinations and that what you are asking you know why because when we are coming for this course and taking up seriously and then there is a testing body and then they come with the result. Right? So in fact we are looking the outcome of that time. Sure. Sir in that case too but most of the cases the examinations fee is being constrained for our teachers that we are registering as I observe what they speak. Sir I have done one course from the course error. In that course there was no time limit for the submission of the assignment. My concern is this Advertisement twice in trials and the courses will be completed but the only point was that I have to submit assignment on time which as a working professional I am not getting time to complete that particular videos in that time period and to submit assignment. If it is possible that I can submit all the assignment at the end of the course then I think I would be able to do my course which I have seen the difference between the course error and the individual courses. For me that was a major concern because I was not able to complete my course though I was very much aware of it. Okay let me take up one by one anyone else? Right? So your point first globally if you look at it whether it is edX or course error or whatever total number of people who actually enroll for the courses finally you complete the course not all courses have examinations assignments Karloya kujmi karlo that is about 4 to 5 percent the dropout rates in online courses is very high. If I really look at it that way we are still close to about 7-8 persons much better than what others are doing number one. What I am observing here that if it is made mandatory for the students to complete the course appear for the examination colleges which are actually doing it then the results are definitely there without I mean you transfer credit or you do something whatever it is it is actually working out well in such institutions and I can tell you not many countries today have even thought of that using online courses we are in a much better state as compared to as far as MOOCs is concerned. But of course if we can really devise strategies together so that more and more students appear for the exams it is very good. I was actually in I do not know if I had told this to you in one of the meetings I was actually asked this question by one of the person sitting on the other side of the table. So I do not know the only answer I could give is that if I could put all strength of all you know he was one of the IIT directors actually one of all the strength of all the old IITs together the total number of students appearing for the exams are more than that. So what are you talking about please 76000 is not a small number what is the strength of your IIT thankfully was not from my IIT. So immediately the secretary asked what is your strength and then he was quiet. So the whole point I am trying to make is that it will take time definitely it will take time but there will be some way out. Your point very difficult question to answer. Trying our best that government pays for the examination fee still nothing really has happened on that and as far as offering the course is concerned creating the content is concerned managing the course content course run is concerned we get funding from the government for this as far as examination is concerned government is not really willing to pay for that. We are trying to bring the cost as low as possible right now it is in fact there is a slide where I will tell you with students with reserve category and others we have kind of tried to bring it down as much as possible but 1000 right now if you really look at the value prospects then I think 1000 is not really a very high amount. I understand it can be high for some people I do not believe that it is so high for teachers number one. Sir teachers will mention now who likes to give 1000 rupees for a car but the whole point is that 1000 rupees if a teacher cannot give it then it is not right that is all I can say. I know I know I know that is why I am saying it like that. I just want to say that 1000 rupees if someone tells you can you tell them that you can use the mobile a little less and save some money. Absolutely ma'am absolutely I agree with you completely I am just now experiencing this I have another project called DIC design innovation center in which we are kind of offering these internships to students. So when we call them in obviously I feel bad charging the students so I take care of the recommendation food and all that but I am observing this trend when I pay something they are you know it is the same thing that you are talking about they feel either they feel that I deserve it therefore I am here but that is not true it is not that they really deserve it they could be a better candidate who could have used the opportunity in a much better way. The whole point that I am trying to make is that let us not encourage this as far as students are concerned I can still understand there are students I mean you would not believe the kind of places that we have been to in last four five months the students that we have met there are students who genuinely require support and we are continuously talking I will talk about some of the companies which are actually supporting us now. We generally try to support the students but for faculty yes one good thing that has happened and now I think your faculty members will also be happy that I am going to talk about some new developments as far as what you call faculty development program FDP FLP so your your colleges will be getting some letters very soon from AICT and the ministry as well there are certain things which are being approved actually so I am going to talk about that shortly. Now let me just check it out what it is and course here yes so true but tell me something if you allow your students in the same way will that work it will not work what I was talking about is faculty development programs there are going to be credits given to the faculty and instead of you know traveling taking leave leaving your home managing everything leaving back everything going to some institution to do one of these refresher courses you will now be able to take up these courses and that will add to your credits there now in that we can perhaps explore some of these possibilities but in general what our observation has been that if we kind of we definitely can extend time of submission of the assignments but if you have these weekly assignments that that is constantly in your mind and that actually helps because otherwise neither the teacher is there nor you are supposed to come to go to a classroom to do what generally the marks and it goes out there were finally will look at the 12th week maybe we will complete the assignments but then you never know 12th week make yeah so it doesn't work right so we can always explore possibilities yeah this is an interesting slide what we have if you really look at this particular part the initial enrollment into the course versus submission of the first assignment see how it goes down dropout rates in some courses where the the students find quick benefits a programming course le lo c++ le lo yacuz le lo they know that immediately it has a value to them versus a course on maybe introduction to philosophy dropout rates will be very high now when you look at that particular data if I if I show you the data which is per course you will see what are the kind of courses where students appearing for the exams is very close to actual students who really enrolled in the course it largely depends on courses enrollment versus registration yes about nine percent of the students registered but as I said I mean this is still higher as compared to the practices we are seeing in other online platforms yes this number is going up and what is the total number of course being offered starting from July but does that also include the white listed courses if they are being offered or courses to the industry that we are offering no fine so there are a lot of these courses that we are also offering for the industry now depending on their needs and perhaps we will try to keep those courses open for when we actually start the faculty development program courses so yeah 269 is the number as of now and this data is about a week back so I am sure the numbers have gone up now six lakhs plus yes if you remember two years back when I was showing this slide it was only IIT Madras and IIT Kanpur now of course IIT Kharagpur has suddenly got into this whole thing and which has really strengthened us quite a bit so they have in the last course run and the course run before that they have added lot more courses so about 10010 courses these are largely the MOOCs courses that I am talking about type of courses being offered from March 2014 till 2018 about 483 new courses 49 repurposed courses and about 208 reruns now if you repurpose courses I believe you know these courses which we had developed earlier from 2002 to 2014 some of these courses I mean these were mostly courses of 40 hours duration one hour of lecture and all that so they have to be repurposed for the requirements to meet the requirements of MOOCs so they are being sliced into half an hour lectures and there are very interesting experiences that we are having so there was this professor who had actually done a course earlier back in 2008 or 2009 so he was very keen on in fact there was a requirement that came from the colleges that that course need to be offered as MOOC so gentleman comes to the editing studio and very nicely he sliced these lectures and then he realized that look I mean from moving to one topic to the other topic after I slice this one hour lecture I need to give an introduction so I said yeah I knew what he is going to face now at home so then he went back home and then called me but I don't have those shirts with me what do I do so you know those kind of things keep happening here so between two lectures suddenly he appears with the white hair and then gets back in the normal mode but anyway these are nice things that keeps happening so as far as July I mean the course and that is going to start we have about 114 readings and 155 new courses duration of courses of course the four weeks courses are less hundred and you know 39 courses about 104 8 weeks courses and 126 12 weeks courses so generally what we are observing that these eight weeks courses are have the highest demand but in the last two three course runs we are also realizing that these 12 weeks courses now that many institutions are using these courses for credit transfer or making it mandatory for their students to take up the courses the demand for the 30 hours courses is going going up yeah so exam attendance percentage again does not include the white listed courses for example these the examination for this particular course in aktu was conducted by aktu we only gave them the question paper and the model answers past percentage has been again for the number of courses that we offered 87 percent is a decent number and this is something which I am happy about because this was one of the fears that not just we had but also a fear that was expressed by the colleges earlier you are a professor. So that was one of the concerns but now I see that and I'm sure it's not just because I did professor. It's only that the mentors are doing a good job and students also understand the needs of it today and I believe that could be only reason that I see this was again during the this particular last course and examination we conducted a survey to found and found this particular data which is very clear that about 35 percent which is the highest your college or faculty encouraged you to enroll and again I'm really very thankful to all the colleges for doing this good job. I still remember back in 2004 I was in Raiapur in one of the colleges that time we were setting up this e-classrooms for the universities in Raiapur where we could give beam lectures from it can put directly to them there was a tremendous fear among the faculty there and perhaps our jobs are going to go away now which I kept on telling that e-classroom cannot replace real classroom situation is just something which is like a supplementary thing. We are offering courses now lot of I mean in the current course in about 16,000 yeah 16,000 students faculty I believe they appeared for the examinations they completed the examinations. Now we believe that they are much better equipped today to teach the courses why are we needed here so I mean this initiative is good but it is not going to be a permanent initiative it will run for maybe next 3 years 4 years 5 years 10 years and eventually I'm sure the requirements will also go down once I mean I know there are teachers who have done about 7 or 8 courses on NPTEL and they have got good grades in that I'm sure they are they have also done this as students but maybe as students they were not so serious I mean frankly if you ask me the courses that I teach I never took those courses very seriously when I was a student but then the whole point is that if I am refreshing them by doing these courses I'm much better equipped today to go back and teach my students that's the whole purpose it's it was never intended to replace this noble profession of teachers it was just there to help them out so that they can pass on I know sir I keep getting these mails I agree I agree completely agree but I believe to a large extent that has been clarified now because now AKT of course has taken some policy that there are some courses which are mandatory for the for the students to take up but no there is no specific course which is mandatory but if they do some NPTEL courses they will get some credits for it right so which in a way takes care of that problem to a large extent yeah so which in a way is good I will still I'll confirm with the dean there and get back to it I'll actually just keep a note of this we'll have to just talk to professor we need counsel and get back to this course but yes I mean that I understand that fear will be there for some time but I got a bolted up if I'm kashak that be registered Karlo course make them exam they love or bus a good one by up for example this particular course we are offering it again but it's not compulsory your college has to offer that course and the reason why I insisted that we are not going to offer the same course second time because I thought that those two teachers who were otherwise mentoring the students or otherwise they were responsible for teaching this course should have done the course this time and they can teach it next time in a much better way so that was the whole purpose now there are there are ways there are yep so this number is also going up everything is very good actually so about 53,000 male students and 34,000 female students which is good again yeah 16,000 plus faculty registered in january uh april 2018 courses which is okay that is good yeah so this is distribution of highest marks across so you can see clearly 385 courses between 91 and 100 and number of toppers of course 481 so this is also pretty clear that there are very few courses which are very easy so which essentially means that the standards are being maintained here we kept on getting this request from students from colleges that were very difficult here content you have all kinds of things are happening uh but still we said that we are not going to compromise on the standards which is pretty evident with the slide yeah there are some acknowledgments last time I was actually presenting it so there were people from I mean some of them were there so I had to do the acknowledgments so yes but I'm really thankful to Mr. uh supermanium uh secretary mhd who has been really supporting this particular initiative and he is very keen that uh more teachers uh benefit from the courses google of course has been with us since 2006 and they have particularly Ashwini Sharma has been really helpful in uh in the platform that you're using the course builder platform that we're using is continuously in a state of change there every with every course run there are new features uh which are added there are bugs which are removed so Ashwini Sharma Abhinav Kadilwal Divi Tej all these people and they are all doing it not for money they don't charge us a penny for the kind of time and effort that they actually uh put in this from us in technologies Dr. Nozad and uh Mudasir both of them have been again very helpful they have freely with their uh uh with their sponsorship particularly in CSR funds that they've given are again I mean I believe they're extremely helpful but these are the culprits so problem is there because what happens is uh TCSAM platform and you have to understand that to conduct an examination there is it's not just the examination centers it's the deployment of human resources and so many other things that gets involved in the process that uh we really have to in fact 1000 rupees that we are charging trust me we have we have kind of we are trying to take out some money from the sponsorships that we have to make sure that the money does not go beyond that of course the text transcription KLA we have tied up with these companies they are helping us with this and then it is really uh the work has been speeded up now about uh four years ago we had uh people sitting with you know headphones listening to the lectures and typing them in our offices but now of course uh the text transcript is being done by this now I think I would leave it to Angana yes I'll I'll come back to you again yes tell me it is true I have a PIC meeting uh some third of August I was actually because there's something which I was told from some of my colleagues at IIT Kanpur also they were interested in sharing uh the answer scripts but um the only problem is that we ourselves need to be clear about one thing in spite of all efforts that we're putting um we came across some incidences where some questions were repeated from the previous exams and uh if you remember earlier we used to share the answers as soon as that happened we said that's not fair so of course we have taken action against people who have actually done that um but that is one reason but I'm sure this will be sorted out very soon yeah uh in fact I'm gonna talk about it me In Udaipur, there is a center in Udaipur that is very far away from Udaipur. It is not possible to go there. And how many students are doing this here? Sir, there were not even 15 registered in the center. And this time around 30 students have registered. If the center is not there, then there is a lot more for a minute. The exam center is like this. And the entire city has come to India. The entire world has come to the city. And all the exams are like this. All the people in India have come to JEE. No, I don't understand. Actually, what is happening is that when we are getting some assurance that there will be a registration in the examination from this place, then we are saying that there is a hypothetical situation. Otherwise, can you do one thing? Just check out all the colleges which are local chapters or even otherwise check the data. And draw some table on how many students can we really expect to register if we make another center in Udaipur. How much would we expect? Okay. On that basis, we can propose this time. I have prepared it before the third of this program. From every college, there may be say 100 students. But there may not be single college from 100 students. No, that's what I was telling. So, we have to check out the colleges in this particular region. I mean, check out all the colleges in Udaipur and nearby areas. And tell me, how many are zone-wise. No, in fact, in Rajasthan, I think we have conducted only one workshop. Yes. One second. Yes. No, no, silly questions are very important questions. No, there is no restriction. There is no restriction. There is no restriction. There is no restriction. There is no restriction. Others can do something. No, no. And not there. That's not there. Can we add it? Yes, we can get it added. They are aiming if I come to this corner. Yes, one way. No, but tell me something. I need to check that. If somebody who is neither a teacher nor a student, there are people who are registering, right? No. What no? And there are students who are there. There are people who are registering. We are the teacher, in fact, or a lecturer. We are the lecturer, we are the lecturer. We are the lecturer, we are the lecturer. We will get something added to that. We will just say others. Otherwise, it will be a huge list. No, no, silly questions are very important. We will add it. I will get it done. Don't worry. Yes. Sorry, where are you from? Amity. Amity. Yes. There is a section of news. I know. Yes. And in that particular section, there is a subject, Joy of Community Fire. So, we are planning to clone the subject. It is fully known. Just want to know that how we can have great transfer from your side or from our comments. Credit transfer. No, see, we can give you credit transfer if you take up courses offered by us. Yes. Definitely. No, I mean, who is offering the course? Sir, we have in our characteristic curriculum, there is a MOOCs section that a student can form a subject that is Joy of Community Fire. Right. Sir, we can flow this subject in a student in a way that you have to ask the course on that. But we should have a course like that, right? We have a course? Yes. And is it being offered in the current semester? No. Let I am going to finish this. I have a list of colleges who have adopted various different ways of kind of collaborating with NPTEL and I am sure you will find your answer there. Professor and Dean. Right. Professor and Dean. Right. Yes, he is right. So, I have just got this term. I have gone through three courses of NEPTEL and I have remained the old man list of 99 percent marks So actually we are going to UGC based business and if we incorporate these courses in our curriculum then it becomes mandatory for the student to pass that course. If we give this credit to the student in his certificate of the university, this is a separate certificate, separate in the university certificate then definitely the student will come to enroll in this course. No, but that is happening now, no? Because I mean, as it is, I mean, AKTU for example, they have adopted this particular policy in the academic council meeting. Yes. It's all that happened. So what, some specific... But this requires to change the curriculum. There should be some coordination. But in the IIT, then how is that possible? We are in touch with AICT for that matter. In fact, there is this review of curriculum happening and in many of these committees we have people who have offered courses through NPTEL or they are part of the IIT system itself and they are trying to create some similarity between the curriculum being offered in the courses as well as what will be adopted by AICT as a model curriculum. In physics, for example, I think Mr. Manoj Harbola, he is the chairman of that particular committee. He is taking the course of... He is actually the chairman of that committee which is revising the curriculum. So in fact, if he has offered courses there, so I'm sure he will try to bring in those components in the model curriculum also. But yes, there... See, right now, what is also happening is there are many new platforms which are coming up. And frankly, we are not very clear on... We are clear about one thing that this is going to confuse the users quite a bit. So we had NPTEL which was doing decent job. Then we have now SWAYAM platform which is here. There is also SWAYAM Prabha which is another initiative. Now I keep getting these questions, Sagar, in the sense that if we do a course on SWAYAM, can we appear for examination in NPTEL? It's very silly problem. We are mirroring all the courses that we are actually offering on NPTEL in SWAYAM. But since they are two different entities, it becomes very difficult to engage. Then of course, now you have these NRCs coming, National Resource Centers, which are going to offer courses. I will talk about them later. So now, you can take this in NPTEL, you can take this in NRC. SWAYAM platform is ready and there is a serious effort going on in building up a platform for conducting examinations. Until then, we are dependent on some company or the other. But once that particular thing comes up, then perhaps it will be very useful. In fact, in the NRC center, there is a building that is going to be the office of NPTEL, National Testing Agency, which is going to have all these 10 verticals, CBAC, ICAC, Medical, JEE, etc. And it's their effort actually right now in building up a portal, which could really conduct examinations properly. So, okay sir. We will look into this. Why? Let's do this one at a time. You finish first. Yes. Okay. Okay. There is one of the institutes in Pune that is actually working on this. And I think about 13 virtual labs are ready right now. In December, I think they are offering some of these training programs. Yeah, there are possibilities. It's just that the numbers, because if they make it mandatory for the students, I don't know whether we'll be able to accommodate all of them or not. That's why I was not saying. One needs to explore different possibilities. If it is just about 30 students, 40 students, then things are possible. But I mean, if you tell me there are about 2,000 students, and as soon as you tell me, I'm sure there are others also who would be interested in, then the numbers go up. There it becomes difficult for me to promise anything. You know, because we'll have to really build up the capacity first. But I'm sure it's a good point. Just write a mail to me and do that before third of next month. I'm telling you, there won't be any motivation for you. I'm telling you, there won't be any motivation for you. You won't be able to do the course. I'm telling you the truth. You were just telling me that you won't be able to do the course. You just write it to me. If you get it free, then you'll think it's the same. Let me do it. No, we can do other things, but don't do the examination fee waiver. Sir, there's an example of a broken terminal ID. They don't do the examination fee. You can't do the inspection fee. You can't do the examination fee. No, sir. You can't do the examination fee. You can't do the examination fee. You can't do the examination fee. But you can't do the examination fee. But if you do that, then you'll be able to do the performance. That can be 50% of the fee. So, allow that. We'll do it. The kid is engaged. If he's bringing money, then he'll be engaged. If he's not engaged, then it's not a big deal. We'll do the examination. Now, we'll do the registration. So, we've treated them the last time. For example, we've enrolled them for the examination. That's why we've responsible for four cases. Sir, if they can't be minimized in this form, then they have to do an examination at the NBP. Then they have to do the examination. Now, they can't attach people. If they don't do the examination or I did it, then they can do the examination. I am not giving the exam because of the center, students or... I am not giving the exam because of the center. Okay, okay. I am not giving the exam because of the center. No, no, no, no, no. Can you do it once? Absolutely, he doesn't have to appear for the exam. In fact, I would say the second time in your college, that person should teach rather than you insist the students to take up the course here. Because the whole purpose was that. Once the mentor is now prepared, so it should be the mentor who is otherwise a faculty. He should be teaching the course. Why do you want the students to take up courses online then? See what happens is, one student enrolls for the exam. It is only at that stage, but how do we know that these students have actually... Okay, I will explore this too. These are good suggestions actually. You do one thing. I mean, I think you have a lot of things that you are saying. So just draft a mail to me and send it to me. Okay, I will pick up these points. Yeah. At that time, there is no ingredient subject. Yeah, it depends on what... True, but then again, it depends on how you are looking at it. If you are a physics student, you want the person to maybe register for some courses. That is their experience in a way. I mean, not necessarily an internship means hands-on experience in the industry. Internships can happen in different ways. Rajma Chawal was very good there. I went to their college actually. Yeah. Students, I mean, initially, were in 24th grade. Always, students are going to be about 27th or 28th grade, mostly in the next month. Yeah, but still with the enrollment goals. No, no. No, no. No, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. Conducting awareness for the environment. The same thing. Nearer, in Patala, there is a center called... ...the media is called the center called the... ...the student, she has a right. I think she is in... ...in Kurtas. They are actually at a university in Kirtas. They have a problem with that. The classes are still shorting, so we are just... ...unknowingly shorting. So for that... ...the teachers have to... ...the professors have to... ...instead of a 12-week process... ...we try to... ...the 14-week process... ...we try to... ...so... ...aprics... ...and jokes... ...and jokes... ...and jokes... ...for example... ...physics is the main courses. Enrollment... ...how many students can extend the course? The course is... ...you can study it. Thank you. At least... ...I will tell you what the practical problem... ...that we are facing right now. I understand what you are saying. We have to find a solution. If you really look at it... ...as compared to what we were doing two years back... ...we have been pushing these dates. 2019 May... ...January 26th now... ...is what we are going to start the course. Across the country, if you really look at it... ...it is one and a half to two months difference. Now if we delay it so much... ...the colleges in the south will suffer. If we preponate... ...the colleges in the north will suffer. So in that case we really... ...the only solution that I can see is... ...offer different courses... ...start them differently so that... ...everyone gets benefitted to an extent. We can do something like that. But let me still explore the possibility. For now, it is possible that... ...the dates of these 12 weeks courses... ...if they... ...are not announced yet? So we will make it 10 days or so. One thing that you could do is... ...tell your mentors... ...those who are assigned to these courses... ...otherwise those who are assigned to these courses... ...to register for the courses. So that at least... ...when the students come in... ...even if they enroll little later... ...they can at least... ...if the mentors can do the course... ...they can always kind of tell the students... ...or explain the concepts to the students. That way it can really help. Yeah. He is already standing there. Sorry? They can... ...right... ...right... ...mars... ...I mean suppose the student... ...mars more than the end meet. So that is why... ...when the meeting is held there... ...it is not possible to do it. So when the mentor is engaged... ...he is a very good student. So if he is doing his own course... ...he will check the number of the courses. Otherwise his number is better. So... ...can you tell him the number of the courses? No, I just don't understand... ...that... ...NPTEL... ...didn't take any exam for NCR? No. Yes. The only exam was not taken by the university. We only gave the scores of the assignments. Now that is done, right? That is what I was saying. I want to warrant this point. Let me finish this. Now I think in one of the... Sir, you must know something, right? Tell me something. I was not in the academy council meeting. Please clear this point. What exactly is the policy? So I was afraid that... ...I was told that the NCR course... ...will transfer the number of the students. So I was actually worried that... ...the number of the students wouldn't decrease. No, but that does not answer... ...sir, that does not answer his question. I am telling you that... ...from now... ...from this semester... ...the students who register in NPTEL courses... ...will get their credit transferred... ...about 20% of the course that they... There is something like this, right? 20% of the course every semester. I think it's for all the batches, right? It's only for the first year? First year. They haven't done it yet? They haven't done it yet. Okay, after the meeting... ...I will just talk to them and clarify this. Yes, tell me. I am from the same college. If we can schedule all the interactions... ...with Pekelton on Saturday... ...so that we can take our state... ...we can meet, you know... ...in Planet in our campus... Which day is it today? Saturday? Interaction? Okay, that you are talking about. No, I agree with you. I agree with you on that. The second thing is that... ...lunches of all the courses... ...at the same time. What is happening right now? Set one, then set two. Then after 15 minutes... ...during the academic session... ...this is very tough to announce again and again... ...this is Planet is coming please and roll... ...so if we can make it at one time event... ...then we will be very successfully... ...promoting at the campus. Look at how my problem is. We were just telling you that... ...the course we will offer in August... ...we can at least register some people. They have also said that... ...you have to do this for your children. The problem is madam... ...that if I announce one date... ...this could be either beneficial for you... ...or beneficial for colleges in the south. The problem is that there are colleges... ...which also want to take the 8 week... ...courses now. These colleges have started. So this is very difficult. It is happening. I mean... ...see if I have to do it for one college... ...it's a different thing. Like we did for AKTU. That was a simple thing. We didn't open it for anyone outside. No. The way out is basically... ...make one announcement right now... ...saying that these are the courses... ...going to open up from these dates. Okay. I understand it is difficult... ...but again you have to see that... ...this is convenient for the students. So that is something we have to... ...go public. Yes. Please calm down and listen to them. No. You can't do it first. You have to first look into... ...the genuine needs of the students. No. That was because that was a white listed course. So the point... ...the problem is not in the scholarship. In the level of seriousness. Those who are completing the course... ...enrolling for the exams... ...they are also applying for the scholarship. Right? And those who are registering... ...into a course... ...but coming and bothering you... ...and not appearing for the exam... ...are not serious. So the problem is not with the scholarship. The problem is somewhere... ...where they lack this seriousness. I mean that is something... ...a choice... ...you are in a much better position... ...to decide who should... ...apply for scholarship... ...and who should not apply for scholarship. For us to judge... ...otherwise becomes a very difficult thing. I think it goes to the college account. Right? Spoke. Spoke. That has changed. Right now it has changed. It goes to college only. Okay, so let's... I'll have to talk to Ashwini. Well, I'm sure it is possible. It's just that a small change... ...means almost a huge effort. I know there was an effort... ...being put in doing this. Why? This is something I'm saying... ...because we discussed this about... ...two and a half years ago. I don't know why it has not been implemented. I didn't follow it up. Let me check. What is it? You can see after that. There are two edged scores there. And while I'm doing some... ...the professor open language there... ...I don't know... ...the rules, the system, the discussion. He keeps on depicting how there is... ...from your law to digital... ...from your law to digital when you are doing... ...so the problem is... ...he is not telling you... ...experimental representation in the class. We can do that. We can do that. I mean, that is something... ...which I've been telling the... ...vaculty colleagues. There is basically this four quadrant approach... ...which has been taken now. People keep insisting that... ...I mean, we keep insisting our colleagues... ...who offer courses to have... ...more animations, more demonstrations... ...and other things in the class. I'll get back to my colleagues... ...and tell them to add more things. No, no. I completely agree with you... ...and I personally feel that that's very important. You need to... ...enrich your courses more. One of the things, of course, that... ...we are trying is... ...some of these courses... ...which are now becoming more popular... ...those courses, we are kind of... ...taking it up... ...and we are trying to enrich them... ...with more interesting data. I agree with you. I agree with you that makes it more... ...interesting and exciting to watch. Let me check. I'm sure they can... Keep a note of this also. Some specific courses. I'll have to just go back and... ...check out who can offer the courses. Okay, so... ...this particular... ...slide talks about the number of local chapters. So... ...I'm very happy that Uttar Pradesh... ...is on the top. But unfortunately... ...it becomes very sad when we come here. If you look at the last point here, Maharashtra has the highest number of LCs after Uttar Pradesh... ...but registration is low. Why is it that... ...there are 30% students from... ...Tamiladu... ...18% from Anur Pradesh... ...and just 4% from UP. That is something which... ...we need to figure out ways. Again, the problems that you are expressing... ...are genuine, all genuine. But then, everybody has the same problem. In spite of that, if there are some institutions... ...which are trying to do good... ...it was a debate once. Some people said that people in the south... ...are more serious as compared to not. About education. Now, you know... ...those things are embarrassing... ...when you are... ...in a situation where you are actually... ...representing the whole of north. And then, you were told... ...what to do? I don't have the data to show you. April 2018, there were about 114 centres... ...on each state across India. And I am sorry that... ...Udaipur did not have a centre. They will give it to him. So, just let me know... ...and we will do some study in that particular region... ...and we will figure out. And perhaps, this semester... ...slightly early... ...let's plan a workshop at Udaipur... ...and get all the colleges from the vicinity there. So, there were offline examinations... ...that were conducted in some places. Now, that is also something we can explore. Which were non-TCS, which were conducted, of course. There were reasons perhaps... ...why this had to be done this way. Either TCS did not have a centre... ...or it was difficult for them to... ...organise a centre at a very short notice. Which issues with you, Staraki? Yeah. Or a problem may be... ...that we have to send these institute representatives... ...to every centre. So, practically all my staff members... ...even other IITs also... ...those who are offering courses... ...from at every TCS centre... ...every examination centre... ...we have to send 2 or 3 people. So, that also becomes slightly difficult to manage. But I am sure things can be sorted out. Yes. We may think of increasing the cut-off... ...for passing from January 2019. Yes. I want a feedback. Nothing like that. We were thinking of doing 50. 40. What day is it now? Okay, okay, okay. Sorry. If we talk about quality and real learning... ...then it was to be 50 first. No, look at the real learning... ...those who are on the top... ...this is a little bit of the past. Okay. No, no, I agree. I agree with you. I agree with you. I have not said that... ...somebody had decided to send it. So, we will remove it. Don't worry. This is something Angana is supposed to present. I haven't seen these slides. What is this about? Please explain. Rated the local chapters... ...that is, for every 10 students... ...that were present for the exam. Okay. That multiplied by 0.1... ...plus... ...number of students who have got... ...successfully completed certificates... ...that is 40% to 59%... ...plus 2 into number of the... ...elite certificates... ...which are 60% to 99%... ...10 into number of gold... ...certificates... ...90% to 100%... ...and plus 20 into number of... ...national topics. All these put together... ...for each local chapter... ...we do this calculation... ...and then we publish the list... ...first of the... ...rated chapters... ...that is A, A, A, A... ...and then the top... ...the top 100 local chapters... ...and then the active local chapters. Okay. That is how it is done. And I get this to all my scopes... ...in all the workshops... ...but I still get mails. Madam... ...my gold medal is not here. So please, this is a virtual... ...examination on a virtual... ...examination is real. The teaching is virtual... ...and the platform is virtual... ...so gold medal is also virtual... ...for a right corner of the certificate. Okay. Very nicely with a nice little... ...ribble, tight like this... ...and... ...please, your gold medal is there. Okay. So one day I opened my mailbox... ...and I showed it to him. He said, you go to every workshop... ...and nobody asks you that. I said, okay, you see... ...so I opened my mailbox... ...and showed it to him. That's so many queries I get. From next step to the start... ...why take gold medals? Very sir. The program is day by day going popular... ...and gold medal... That's your hard work... ...not completely our work. So next time we can plan. Okay, we will. Let's see. Even for coated gold medal... ...need not to be able to do a gold medal. But you know, sometimes coated gold medals... ...are also very rare to get, you know. My son went for this district... ...tricondo championship. Very happily he went. He came back... ...and I said... ...he had a big smile on his face. I said, did you get anything? He said, yes, I've got a gold... ...and two silvers. So I saw two silver medals hanging... ...but there was no gold medal. I said, rubbish, where's your gold medal? He said, come, buddy, I'll do it. And I'm not joking. This was Uttar Pradesh district. I said, anything can happen here. Definitely, Uttar Pradesh can happen here. So I said, when will you come? I don't know. When you come, it will automatically come to you. I said, okay, very good. Hundred. Okay, the top ten... ...get triple A, then double A... ...and 51 to 100... ...get the single A. We'll be very happy to know that from our region... ...there are two triple A's this time. One double A. And I was very happy to see... ...very hard-working spokes with a lot of single A rating. All the spokes who might want it to be in single A... ...are there acceptable. No, three actually. I'll name them. One is Praveen Banodya... ...from Acropolis Institute in Bengal. He's one of my most hard-working spokes. Then Jyothil Mysar... ...he's been with us since day one... ...and Ashok Ji from Jammu. I mean, please, Ashok Ji, please stand up. And everyone, please... ...energy. I can assure you... ...from Jammu, all the registrations... ...it's not our effort. It's totally his. And I... ...you will not believe that it's Colleges. It's in Samba where every day... ...shelling takes place. Every day, when we went there... ...you know... ...we were not allowed to go out... ...after six o'clock in the evening... ...because shelling was taking place. And when we slept last night... ...the first time in my entire life... ...I thought... ...it's not happening at all. It's a cold. It was not cold. From there, students are sad for the examinations. It's this man's... ...single-handed effort. So, any of us can do it. Any of us can do it. So, thank you, sir. Thank you. Okay. So, rating changes every semester. This is not the end of the road. I want that pie to go up. And... So, this is how you can be... ...at least an active local chapter. 25 candidates need to be present... ...for the April 2018 exam. Or... ...first it was an AND. Now we have put an OR. That local chapters have either one gold medalist... ...or one topper in any of the course. So, even if you do not have 25... ...candidates sitting for the exam... ...if you have one gold medalist... ...or one national topper... ...even then you are an active local chapter. Actors active based on this draft... ...of course we have certificates for... ...spokes of the top 100 local chapters... ...and the active local chapters are... ...thinking of changing our LC ratings... ...now that we are thinking of... ...either removing the capping... ...of the successfully completed... ...or taking into account only the elite... ...and the gold. And what is important is the next point... ...that spokes should do some minimum activity... ...of locking in into the portal. And answering the survey... ...you have all received a feedback form. Yes, yes. And we have submitted some. That was a very long time. Because otherwise I will be... ...I will end up calling... ...323 people... ...saying... ...Sir, I have sent you a mail. Okay, when? No, I will send it tomorrow. Okay, I will not send it. Okay, send it again. Send it again. There will be no response. Sir, we have sent you again. Okay, I will be outside. Okay, I will see you later. You... ...just for this workshop... ...you will not believe... ...how many phone calls I have made... ...and I have to say, sir... ...ma'am... ...you have not responded... ...to the confirmation mail. Are you coming? No, I have registered it. I have registered it. Then I have sent a confirmation mail. Where should I send the confirmation mail? Here you have sent an email. Oh, okay. You have to respond to that too. Please, you know... ...mails... ...because this is on the... ...everything is on the internet. So you have to be very active on your emails. And don't tell me... ...if you don't have a smartphone... ...link to your Google account. I will not believe. Absolute lies, Doza. The smartphone is everyone's WhatsApp. Everyone's mail is on the internet. Even if there is an A&P mailer... ...it's fine. It's not possible that you miss it. Okay? And this is how it is calculated for... ...again for every ten... ...mentes... ...one into number of successfully completed... ...five into elite... ...and twenty into goat. Those... ...those mentors who get... ...after calculating all this... ...who get the score of... ...more than equal to ten... ...get a certificate for mentoring. We also have... ...top rated mentors... ...that is... ...nationally acknowledged mentors... ...who are national talkers. Okay? If they get a special mention... ...on the certificate... ...that they are top rated mentors. Okay? When will Mentor get a certificate? She has ten students who appeared for the exam... ...but none passed. Well, we do not blame the Mentor at all. He still acknowledged his role. He or she has at least... ...five who have... ...successfully completed the course. That has gotten more than 40... ...but less than 60. Two with elite... ...or even one... ...who's got a goat. Alright? These are the ways... ...we can acknowledge his effort. Performing Mentors. Mentors who are toppers or gold medalists. This time there are 229. Registered Mentors... ...more than 100. We have seven. I am talking for the national level. Mentor with either a topper... ...or gold medalist and mentees. And the total exam registered... ...more than 100. These are three mentors. And no badge... ...that is... ...864. So, we have... ...1,103... ...top performing Mentors... ...this time at the national level. No badge. Alright, so total of 4,301... ...mentors were... ...nominated. 1,103 have qualified. And... ...reasons why the others did not... ...get a certificate are... ...the mentees did not register... ...for the exam. And no... ...he worked out. Mentors registered but they were absent... ...on the day of the exam. Okay? And of course points obtained... ...was less than 10 times. These are the reasons why we could not acknowledge... ...1,171... ...mentors. If any of them are from your colleagues... ...therefore you can explain to them... ...why they did not get it. Mentors themselves took the exam this time... ...and 50 were gold medalists... ...but sorry, not a criteria to get a certificate. You get a... ...certificate of NPTL itself. Okay? Alright. For this semester... ...unless... ...mentors are enrolled... ...with mentees list attached... ...mentors... ...certainly... Yes. Yes. Mentors certificates... ...will not be given. Okay? So if somebody... ...as I have said... ...if somebody has already done a mentoring this time... ...we can get a fresh person... ...to mentor that course this time... ...if you want to get a certificate. Can we get those slides? Can we get those slides? Which slides? This PPT. I will share with you. Okay. Thank you. Anyway, if you open the... ...NPTA.AC.IC site... ...there is a column... ...called Presentations. If you click on the Presentations... ...a number of Presentations will drop. You just look for the... ...July to November... ...this... ...Session Presentation... ...and the entire Presentation will open. Okay? Some of the Presentations... ...are not there. I will share. I will share. I have the registration list with me. I will share it with all of you. So... ...a feedback form... ...for mentors has to be filled... ...once a month. The mentor himself or herself... ...will get a feedback form. She has to fill it and send it back to us. It will involve details... ...about the course and how they handle it. So if they have any issues with the course... ...stuff, they find the course out of context... ...they find something else to be included... ...then... ...the mentor should put that... ...in the feedback form... ...to help us develop the course better. Additional mentors... ...for every 50 students enrolled... ...if... ...it is less than 50 number of students... ...then we recommend one mentor. The last point is that... ...we may think of... ...whether 10 mentees... ...will pass... ...whether we can give the mentor a certificate or not... ...that we are thinking of taking this then... ...but we might not take this... ...there's nothing to worry right now. Alright, that's from... ...my end. I would... ...after I distribute the certificates... ...I would like some of the spokes... ...to share their experiences... ...with NPTEL... ...and how they have handled it. And you know then... ...certain queries will get answered... ...you know by default... ...that's...you know... ...how people have handled it. Okay, so I'll continue with it... ...IIT, Mathras, Rootki... ...Balakar and Tirupati... ...have approved... ...tenant transfer of students... ...taking these NPTEL online courses... ...and 300 students from various... ...IITs have taken exams... ...in January to April... ...I also have a list of... ...universities... ...who have already... ...implemented this credit transfer. So one is... ...of course, EKTU... ...for the NPR course... ...the credit transfer was implemented. Gujarat Technical University... ...they do it... ...for their... ...result-skill project. They have an activity of 50 points... ...which the students... ...generally had to go outside... ...taking an internship or something... ...that has been... ...covered up by NPTEL. University of Madras, of course... ...they included the UGC regulation... ...for including MOOCs... ...and... ...in the UGPG program... ...so they have the BTEC... ...eight semester students opting... ...completely for MOOCs courses... ...then they will also have to appear... ...for the NSM exams... ...expective colleges and certificates obtained... ...so that is for University of Madras... ...who have completely... ...taken up the UGC regulation... ...for their final year students. So one course... ...completely is done... ...by...through NPTEL. Generally the... ...30 hours course... ...is done by... ...these students... ...the 30 hours course completes... ...around 4-5 credits for them... ...and how these are completed. Of course... ...the University of Technology in West Bengal... ...Polkata... ...for them also... ...they have also included this... ...in their course curriculum... ...and... ...students who complete 20 credits... ...from MOOCs courses... ...get a BTEC degree with honors. Something in line that... ...even Abdul Kalam Technical University... ...is thinking of doing... ...complete... ...20 credits from MOOCs courses... ...then they will also... ...get a BTEC degree with honors. One time... ...that depends on... ...which course you are taking... ...4 weeks, 8 weeks, 12 weeks... ...so depending on that... ...you can transfer your credit. That generally the... ...college maps it within... ...observing their own credit structure. So like... ...transfers to one credit... ...and 8 weeks, 4 transfers to 2 credits... ...and 12 weeks... ...transfers to 4 credits... ...like... ...4 credits... ...12 weeks generally... ...of 4 credits course... ...but it again...you can map it... ...according to your requirements. I am from... ...University... ...in our university... ...we are proposing that... ...there will be 6 individual courses... ...starting from 2nd semester... ...up to 7th semester... ...and we are mapping it according to our criteria... ...that means we are... ...if the courses... ...even by a criteria is 2 or 3 credits... ...we are taking it as one credit... ...and we are adding it in our certificate. Is the physics perfect? I think that will actually depend on... ...how you map it. I think you are from... Basically just... ...I think there are 2 slides... ...where we just wanted to tell you... ...how people are using the... ...courses...in different forms of credits. This is something we can share with you also... ...which you can take back... ...and in case you need... ...any help... ...if you look at this... ...this particular institution... ...in Gujar... ...they say individual certification of an 8-wheel course... ...will be considered equivalent to... ...3 or 4 credit elective... ...for awarding the exemption... ...in individual certification of a 12-wheel course... ...will be considered equivalent to 5 or 6 credit elective. So... ...it largely depends on... ...managed from... ...adversive degree... ...adversive colleges... ...so as for your requirements... ...your own requirements... ...your own system that you call. Sir, this time... ...in this course... ...you are also in the 8-wheel and 8-wheel course... ...is it still there? Do the students have to give the online exam... ...or they have to give the 8-wheel exam... ...for that particular course? No, henceforth... ...all the courses that are listed... ...in the negative side... ...NPTEL will be doing it. NPTEL will be doing it... ...and there will be students... ...other than NPTEL also... ...who would be registering for you... ...that would be like a regular NPTEL course. Like we were experimenting... ...we were not very clear... ...how to conduct the university exam... ...and it was specifically... ...offered for students of AKT... ...as a white listed class... ...but now it is an open NPTEL course... ...so students will get the NPTEL certificate... ...also as any other student... ...for this particular course... ...there will be a certificate... ...which will be issued... ...so that would be not like a regular NPTEL certificate... ...we have a certificate... ...offered by IIT Kanpur in collaboration... ...to take you... ...offered this course under the umbrella of NPTEL... ...that is what... ...but it will be like a regular NPTEL exam... ...it will be like a normal NPTEL exam... ...this is... ...it will not be an open NPTEL... ...no... ...there will not be any credit transfer... ...not this way... ...so there is a mechanism for it... ...so students have to inform the university... ...these are the students... ...the courses that they have cleared... ...based on that the credits will be transferred... ...again sir, Gajyaabad is having... ...many colleges for the MCA... ...and we are not having... ...central... ...we are planning... ...for the centre in Gajyaabad... ...just one... ...just note this... ...just note this... ...for the third... ...Gajyaabad and... ...sorry... ...sorry... ...these three we can do it... ...right... ...so let's... ...look at some of these... ...future plans and new initiatives... ...obviously a desirable state... ...would be to repeat core courses in all major disciplines... ...in July and January... ...of an interesting and new... ...lectives regularly... ...to an extent we are... ...doing it but of course we don't have... ...core courses in all major disciplines... ...in one of the... ...workshops... ...a couple of workshops... ...we are told that textile and mining... ...these are two areas where we need more courses... ...that now... ...has been taken care of... ...hopefully by July 2019... ...earlier we had thought... ...it will be July 2020... ...hopefully by July 2019... ...our schedule of courses should be... ...available ahead of time... ...there could be... ...some problems here and there... ...in one or two courses... ...but like it happened in the current semester itself... ...we were offering... ...a course in which about... ...1,500 students... ...already registered... ...and then... ...two faculty members... ...were jointly offering that course... ...one faculty member... ...had to... ...he left for US for some... ...for a semester or so... ...and that we were not informed... ...and suddenly we came to know about this... ...by that time it was too late... ...so I had to really identify another faculty member... ...from IIT Delhi now of course... ...so both of them together are going to offer the course... ...but... ...registration... ...there could be a possibility that... ...some courses are dropped and replaced... ...we will try as far as possible... ...not to avoid such situations... ...and of course... ...once we have... ...another reason why we wanted to talk about this... ...is also because... ...it's very important for us to... ...like... ...from our side we can give you the schedule of courses... ...but if you can give us the schedule... ...of... ...examinations... ...of... ...admissions and new semesters... ...starting and all that... ...that will be very useful for us... ...in fact we are going to take a feedback... ...on that account... ...and this is something I want to understand... ...so there at least... ...this whole problem of students not there... ...when the course starts... ...I don't know what the solution could be... ...but we can still... ...let's just deliver the course... ...with... ...in 2019... ...will be shared with you very soon... ...um... ...if you have any specific requirements of courses... ...you can let... ...I'm gonna inform her... ...about that... ...as I said... ...last two years in various places... ...that we went there was this demand of... ...courses on textile engineering and mining... ...unfortunately textile engineering... ...is only taught at IIT Delhi... ...right now... ...but... ...so now... ...they have agreed to offer some courses... ...mining... ...has agreed to offer some courses from there... ...so therefore... ...these two set of courses... ...are going to be offered... ...yes...this is an important thing... ...advanced courses... ...will be approved as... ...MDP courses... ...the list of courses... ...which will be available for you... ...there will be a notification from AICD... ...very soon... ...in fact, day before yesterday... ...there was a meeting on temperature... ...we have also... ...will offer these courses... ...as part of the National Resource Centre... ...there are about... ...some 72 National Resource Centres... ...which have opened up... ...but I am... ...the coordinator for Aerospace Engineering IITKAN... ...IITKAN is the National Resource Centre... ...for Aerospace Engineering courses... ...but from October 2018... ...that's the plan which we have... ...I don't know if... ...all the National Resource Centre... ...will be able to offer the courses right away... ...but at least this initiative... ...has started... ...which I believe is a good initiative... ...you don't really have to travel... ...and make your plans... ...advanced... ...this is your... ...your online courses... ...just like in digital courses... ...but the duration could be smaller... ...it could be 4 weeks course... ...or 2 weeks course... ...these kind of durations... ...but you will get credits... ...for MTB... ...this we have been actually... ...based on the feedback... ...and we will see from it... ...we have been following it up with IITK... ...and they have approved it... ...so if you are interested... ...apply for IITK MTB certificate... ...through a separate link... ...it could be 200... ...if hard copy is desired... ...this is the fee... ...now we are teachers for more... ...we have just stopped it... ...this is basically... ...the difference... ...if you really look at it... ...there could be... ...there could be... ...there could be... ...sure... ...you can say... ...so if you really look at this... ...it just... ...a difference... ...between the 2 modes... ...when you... ...think of a short term course... ...when you go to another institution... ...diply it ranges between... ...10,000 to 20,000 rupees... ...while here... ...registration fee... ...is not important... ...so that is essentially... ...what we are trying to take... ...travel typically involves... ...you know... ...pocket the tickets well in advance... ...accommodation... ...all of that... ...no travel accommodation required in this case... ...leave of absence... ...8 to 12 days of academic leave... ...and all participants... ...are exposed to lectures only once... ...here... ...whatever is being recorded... ...then... ...you would like to take an examination also... ...in this... ...I am sorry ma'am is looking at me... ...but the fact is... ...you think of it... ...those who come for these FTPs... ...um... ...I have conducted several of these courses... ...generally my observation is... ...people would come... ...they would attend the lectures... ...and they would also like to look at... ...search for the malls in the city and all of that... ...which you are always free... ...in this case... ...sometimes we would go to the mall and sit... ...and listen to the lectures now... ...so that is taken care of... ...and here see... ...it is basically circular... ...the letter would come very soon... ...I think within... ...with 2 or 3 minutes... ...your knowledge would get the letter from ASK... ...so this is something I had promised about 3 years ago... ...I remember... ...so 3 years have passed... ...and this is now there in place... ...in fact... ...the discussion on this happened in AKT... ...in Vice Chancellor's office itself... ...when ACT Chairman was there... ...and... ...the Vice Chancellor had taken charge... ...and that very weak... ...so we had this discussion... ...now finally it has seen the light... ...um... ...yeah so... ...in case you miss out... ...these courses... ...there is no worry about that... ...yes these are... ...but I am not very clear about this... ...because... ...I will actually send this slide... ...by ACT... ...so it says... ...half MDP... ...credit for a 4 week course... ...one MDP... ...of 1 week for 8 weeks... ...which essentially means... ...8 MDP credits... ...and then... ...for 12 weeks... ...that is the kind of calculation I don't know... ...if you can explain this to me, that would be very nice... ...sorry... ...so for that there is NRC also... ...that's what I am saying... ...I am talking about NPTEL courses as MDP... ...the National Resource Centre... ...that we are setting up... ...that would not be under NPTEL... ...it is under NMEI simply... ...another initiative... ...but I think... ...there is already a circular which has been sent to the universities... ...so that... ...these courses will start from October... ...so in that there are these... ...10 hours courses, 15 hours courses... ...which courses are you talking about? NRC National Resource Centre... ...these courses will be offered... ...to the Swampland... ...that is right... ...yes... ...and October is the time... ...one has to... ...not sure... ...in October NRC... ...in October NRC... ...in October... ...in October NRC is another platform... ...like we have NPTEL... ...okay let me... ...experience... ...what is Swampland? ...what is Swampland? ...it is a huge confusion about this... ...there are all the Swampland... ...we use lectures differently but for safety care... ...we can do it... ...so Swampland means two things... ...one is... ...a platform... ...like we use course filter... ...and Swampland also means a gateway... ...a single gateway... ...for all key learning initiatives in the country... ...what was happening till now... ...that different... ...groups...different institutions...different bodies... ...were actually offering courses... ...not all these certificates were approved... ...by ICT or colleges... ...they were not given real... ...currencies...now in this case... ...once you are... ...soil as a platform... ...then all these courses will have... ...acceptability... ...that's the whole point... ...now there are... ...different projects under... ...NME ICT now of course... ...under the Swampland gateway... ...NPITL is also one... ...similarly UGC is offering one... ...there would be... ...you know... ...they are thinking of something... ...they can put their... ...in the same platform also in it... ...so NPTL remains as one... ...platform in Swampland itself... ...you can do courses on NPTL... ...similarly for NRC... ...after resource center... ...there are about 72 of them... ...I may be wrong... ...so 72... ...so 72... ...different institutions in the country... ...have been assigned... ...responsibility for... ...creating contents in different disciplines... ...for example at... ...Carpool is taking care of computer science... ...at...Carpool is taking care of aerospace engineering... ...so in this case... ...the advantage that you have... ...is that these are almost like professional courses... ...the degrees... ...where courses will be offered online... ...on the Swampland platform... ...I am not very sure about the examination... ...now... ...will there be an examination... ...what are the checks? ...sir... ...so slightly there will not be an exam... ...as far as National Resource Centre is concerned... ...NPTL is an examination now... ...and also around in the courses... ...there is always a possibility... ...that you would have... ...on-site visits also... ...which is not... ...the only problem... ...most of the courses will be online... ...but if they are... ...for example I was talking to... ...the Space Head the other day... ...the interaction to... ...the plane performance for example... ...it requires people coming to the site... ...I think it has its own airspace... ...when there are aircrafts... ...so... ...training there itself... ...so... ...that is one... ...experiment that we are... ...starting with... ...where some of these courses... ...could be a combination of online... ...and offline... ...of the certification... ...this line needs clarification... ...how the certificate will be given... ...to the faculty... ...for example... ...one by two... ...of one week... ...for example a faculty... ...take the course of course... ...so how the certificate will be given? So those who actually register the... ...into the course... ...those who complete the course... ...the organization offering the course... ...what does it mean sir? ...which essentially means... ...it is two FTP... ...for a four week course... ...then one complete FTP... ...one complete FTP... ...so... ...that is precisely what I was asking... ...how many FTPs do you need... ...in a year... ...is there something like that... ...that is not real... ...three FTP per year... ...three FTP per year... ...you need to have... ...that is my opinion... ...so in this case...perhaps... ...no I think the letter will be... ...I mean both of them know about it... ...so... ...it is not just ASA... ...UGC is well informed about it... ...they would also... ...they have been told... ...in the sense as well as... ...certificate the course... ...when you do a reflection... ...when you go to a particular institution... ...to do a course... ...how does that work... ...you come back and you submit some documents... ...that you have completed a course... ...similarly the certificate that you get... ...after completing it... ...would be considered equivalent... ...to submitting a document... ...otherwise as a practice... ...which is being followed... ...you do a certificate... ...and you can just point it together... ...and the time is... ...when you have completed the course... ...you will get the documents... ...this is the problem... ...if you integrate it... ...please... ...one week... ...one week... ...one week... ...one week... ...one week... ...one week... ...one week... ...I will clarify this... ...I understand it... ...that every week... ...there will be three lectures... ...for every week... ...of course that you do... ...you will get half FTP... ...which essentially means... ...for a four week course... ...it becomes two FTP... ...four weeks... ...yes sir... ...how is that possible... ...this is the revenge... ...you did it for 10 days... ...you did it for 15 days... ...so this is the revenge... ...this is for three days... ...no, ok... ...can you just talk to me... ...please do me a favour... ...you do me a favour... ...I will take it up... ...this is something I am not clear about... ...don't kill me... ...ok...then.... ...I will clarify this... So these are some of the courses I was talking about. There are courses which we are doing in collaboration with the industry. So for people who are doing multiple courses, there is also this whole initiative of giving a consolidated transcript that may have some value. We don't know we just got this feedback. So that would look somewhat like this where you have multiple courses, you have this particular set. These are all going to be online. So we are not going to be online. So you want to go green, that's why. If hard copy of certificate is not required the course exam fee will be 1000 instead of rupees 1100. But after filling the form if the candidate wants the hard copy sent by us he, she will have to fill another form and pay rupees 200 for the same. I didn't formulate this rule, I don't know about it. So this was basically I'll tell you what. So generally what is happening in hard copies, there are 2-3 issues which we are facing. One is of course I'll show you a slide. You know, there is a boy who registered for the course, I mean registered for the exam. And instead of his passport size photograph, he said such a thing in Gurga's photo. He unnoticed. Certificate was printed, someone actually pointed it out, he can. Then we realized it is something as stupid as this. But you don't understand that that costs. Even if I say 25 paisa it costs for printing that. But if you really look at it, then it gets wasted. And some of these, I'll show you some images today of these passport size photographs of people. They are hilarious. This is actually, generally what you see, I will share this presentation. Please have a look at it. This is generally for the students with a reserve category as well as physically handicapped. So for them it is, there are several levels of exemptions which are there. So it's basically 50% if just reserve category plus physically handicapped, another 50% over that. So it's just 250 rupees as compared to 1000 rupees. Somebody was asking about these virtual labs. No, he is left. Anyway, so 12 experiments have been set up physically, simulation components available for practice. They can be remotely controlled, performed and measurement can be taken by booking of slots, in person workshop to introduce some faculty to the same. This is something which the in person workshop we are going to start from December. We are talking to this organization in Pune and I'm sure things will be in order soon. Aisa Pune will offer a pilot lab certification course in organic chemistry. This will start from December 2018, but it can handle only 50 participants at a time. So this is also something which you can take a note of, inform your colleagues in chemistry, organic chemistry. If they are interested, they can do this. Summer internships have started. So made in 2018, about 6 candidates who were toppers in NPTEL courses were selected at IT Madras. One candidate went to IT Bombay, one went to triple IT Bombay and 4 candidates to IT Kharagpur. So that is something which could be another incentive perhaps for some students who are genuinely interested in pursuing their career in academics or otherwise. But this is only given to the toppers. This is table 4 by discussing their desire to intern with me. So in summer and winter, it can extend between 1 week, 2 a month, 15 days, 1 week, 15 days and 1 month. For students that each faculty is above 7, but you have to write to us for that. One issue I think what you are talking about is an informal arrangement of what we had so far. Now it is basically a formal arrangement, there is a link provided there. Students who have actually secured high marks in the courses, they can apply through that link. So that particular thing I think it has an option where you want to apply with whom you want to work and all those. Intern Chala is different. What you do is send them a link of this page. So this is something which could be of some use to you. About 12 experimental setups and you have simulation and other things also. We are going to start with this from December onwards. So perhaps next year you can explore this. There is this mobile version of online course portal. Right now we are still in a developmental state. You cannot register into a course or enrol, I mean enrol into a course or register for exams, but you can view the lectures. But this will take another 6-7 months before we are ready. We can do away with some of these things. Yes, this is an important slide perhaps now. You already have this information. So what are the questions which you are asking? See, many of these things also depends on our own requirements. We like put these differences you know 13th, August and 6th, August. Lot of it also depends on how many courses are being art in the given. Kind of we are trying to impose on a fact that the course should be completely recorded and edited before we offer the course. To an extent that has happened, but still we are still lagging behind slightly. Some courses which are scheduled students have started you know basically for the courses. And only for the courses. In them we have hardly completed about 20-30% of the recordings. So that also increases the need to do it. So I believe those who are targeting August for enrolment have about 43 courses. Plus of course 6th, August, 71 and you know another 19 courses, 13th August. Perhaps that is something which you could target. Yeah, this is something which we have already you are aware and we discussed it also sometime back. As far as the examination centres in Ghaziabad, Grittinoyda and Udaypur is concerned. I am surprised that Grittinoyda still does not have a centre. It is almost like a chicken make problem. So until and unless you have students you won't give centres. But until and unless you have centres you won't have. Okay, I mean this is something we will take it up this time. We are dealing in dispatch of hard copies of certificates. We fixed it and all results released on May 28th, 2018 within a month and certificates reached before 3rd week of June. But still we have a huge number of certificates which are coming back to us because either addresses were wrong or there is some problem or the other. We will see that. I can clearly see and that is also one reason apart from the GoGrid concept that was talked about. Perhaps we are still not equipped to handle this at the stage right now. Because finally our offices are also very small. And there are running 226 courses at a time. Itself is a among the stars. In certificates, there is a problem of name creating each of the certificates. You can understand there are 70,000 people who have to be given certificates. And there are five people in my office who have made these certificates for them. That really becomes very difficult. I think we will have to figure out some way that each certificate is the way out. If you want something special for you then you will have to do something special but we will have to do away with this. This of course will be changing because we have to again request them for an extension. We thought this time things are more or less stable but I believe some problems are still there. One thing that is important is to tell the students to check the email notifications. Whenever you address the students after the course registration starts that is really important because what is happening right now I am seeing. In fact, with each of the courses also this time my office I had given about three numbers for people to access. One of them was of course was Radhya Tattar. She told me that she was getting phone calls at two o'clock in the night and on our special request she had kept her phone on. But the queries were such that which have been posted on the native website that it has been posted on the course page. It has been mailed to students at least three or four times and still they would prefer to call her. I was actually going through this joke. Somebody said, in India they mailed and you have to call and tell them that it is mailed. So it is almost like that. Please tell the students to check emails. Yes, look at these wonderful images. You know, they are still decent. Some of them we could clearly see somebody a girl in a mall in front of Starbucks. You want this image to go in a certificate. So that is also something I would request you to please tell them on one occasion get a serious academic looking passport size photograph which you can use later for visa but abhi ke liye ek karlo. Ek decent sa image. Zatavai zahana. It looks very funny. The whole value of the certificate goes down. We generally tell the students please replace the photograph but otherwise also it becomes very difficult. Also the signatures. These are all specific and I am not joking. These are things that we get from students. So we of course don't entertain these things but this needs to be avoided because it is very difficult during examination when we actually try to check the identity of the students that time these things become very important. In case a student is absent or has not passed a course NPTEL will be unable to facilitate supplementary exams. Assignments with solutions are open and available. Local faculty can set the question paper based on this conduct internally. NPTEL will not change scores on website. This is a problem that we are genuinely facing. Once a course is offered and this is only for institutions where they are using it for credit transfer. Once an examination is conducted for instructors and their team and those who prepare the question papers with us there is an amount that we have to pay for every course recording lectures to giving us the question papers. There is a fee for that. Now once faculty has given a question paper asking the person to again set up a question paper becomes a difficult task for us. We have been informally entertaining this for some time but now it looks because the demands are also going up. This time at least I know there have been requests from 15 different institutions for giving us question papers which essentially means that costs close to about 7.5 lakhs. Now that becomes difficult for us. The ideal thing would be that if the course is being offered for credit transfer assuming that there is a mentor who is also part of the course he can actually set up the question paper and conduct the examination. At least they won't say that there is no work. We can make question papers. So that is something which you can again tell them. Oh God! No fee waiver for faculty members for tier 1 city candidates. Tier 2 candidates SPOC has to mention the criteria used and if required should produce supporting documents such as income certificate or ration card. So again, you know it's sad but then what we observed is people are taking advantage. So we came across some cases where it happened in Maharashtra actually where SPOC had given, you know did not give us all these information but based on their feedback we offered scholarships to the students and later on someone reported us and then we investigated the matter we found that these were not genuine cases. The sad thing is that we know there are many other students who could have benefited otherwise who genuinely needed it. So therefore all these rules frankly we don't feel good about it but we don't have a choice that way. Now I would sincerely request all of you, those who have talked about different things to send me a mail as early as possible because I am going on 3rd for this meeting. Before that I would like to carry all these information with me and if you send me early then I can kind of talk to some other members before the meeting starts so that we can have a pre-meeting discussion also on these topics. Sir there are many people who have questions. Give them, because I don't know what they are. I think she can collect all these information. Right, so now the good part starts. Any other question queries that you would like to have? He is not interested, he is tapping. Special cases are always considered. The SPOCs have to inform us immediately and then we can follow it up. What happens is, if we don't know, there is a genuine reason and after we have created the list based on which centre, seats, everything has been decided 3 days before the exam the student says I want to appear for the exam that is not possible. But if you are informed us well in advance then it is possible. So how do we go about it? In the capacity of their names I am featured in the local daily privilege and their students have done really very well. Certificates, so I am very hard working for them. We have a group of institutions coming mentor for them. Excellent. I would like to visit to our institution. I am sorry, this was his approach. Manupnachna University, Paridabad. Very hungry, but you will be fine. We have a task for D.C. Please go forward. So you should have a question. Yes. You have an answer. Now would you like to share something here? Yes. I will ask. I will see first. Thank you. Thank you. My name is Amit Bho Dupal. I am affiliated. We are happy to be a part of the other D.C. Look at the frame. Is it your single? Yes. Okay. I will give. I am affiliated. Thank you. I am very satisfied. Thank you. We are very happy. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. I have seen it. Yes. How about central institute of plastic and jewelry? What about there? Yes. Central institute of plastic and jewelry? Central institute of plastic and jewelry? Yes. Yes. Come in. You're... You're... You're... Okay. Good. Nancy's office. Amitabh. Mr. Amitabh. Just one second. Can you just make an announcement? Yes. I request your attention for one minute. She's a national... You should invite to your colleges to conduct workshops. Central university of plastic... Central university of plastic...