 has kpop officially surpassed american pop music i don't know you might have to ask usher andrew this is going viral because usher he has joined the blinks but after he joined the blinks i heard he might join bts army oh ne yeah so this is going viral right now because usher in a gq interview gave huge props to blackpink after his sons took him to the atlanta concert and he was like yo man i feel goofy like the their technicality their light show it was so mind blown i gotta go tweak my vegas show yeah man so uh that's it usher was inspired by blackpink guys uh we're gonna go through all the reactions and we'll give you our takeaways on what american artists can learn from kpop artists right now so please hit that like button check out other episodes of the hot pop boys let's go yeah the first major comment online was like man i am so glad that western and us artists are finally showing love to kpop artists because for the longest time it was the other way around the kpop artists were always showing love to the us artists and then sometimes people would even accuse kpop of being a copy of american r&b hip hop and pop music but like it's just great to see that the influence is coming back around yeah i do think that years ago it was definitely more accurate to say that koreans were copying american pop music but i do think it's become its own thing in the past several years and with these new bands like i think they're just dominating that type that genre is is the koreans got it and we are many generations deep into kpop now i think we're at generation three or generation four i think that you know the west has always been aesthetically inspired by the east maybe specifically japan with the whole harajuku neon like super future thing with nigo and bape and teriyaki boys but uh it never was individual band so it's dope to see andra it's sort of like how the car went from germany to america and then you know japan and korea are doing cars like tayota hundai and now ford which originally did the original commercial car is copying tayota and hundai so it is all coming back around uh the next comment was oh my gosh if he was impressed by black pink wait till he sees bts then his head will explode and other people were like yo man how come the bts army is never happy for anybody and they're always trying to downplay other people's successes and somebody will say i don't even care about usher who cares about western validation kpop all the way and you know there was just a range of opinions of uh you know basically i guess what the tribalism within the kpop fandom world yeah i guess i didn't know that the bts army and the blinks which is the black pink fans like had some type of tension i'm not saying it's like real beef but you know that they would get each get at each other on the internet so i think that's fun i mean i guess in a way kpop's reaching that point where now not everybody is a fan of everybody's you see it has to fracture and splinter into like it has to segmentation and vulcanize yeah somebody was like yeah i am glad that they are not inspired by usher because then their music would be trash and most uneducated garbage for i don't know you're saying that about usher one of the top three at least five r&b artists of all time i think the toxicity of the kpop fanbase is online is a whole another debate you guys got to clue me into that because it's not my world moving on and somebody said what about a usher black pink track dude that would be huge and maybe that would be like the biggest collab of all time so i had to look through the previous kpop american collabs andrew we've got housey lady gaga selena gomez duolipa coldplay megan the stallion nikki minnaz john legend wale missy elliott french montana that one came out of left field snoop dog charlie pooth where would a usher black pink collab rank on this like hierarchy of kpop american collabs dang i guess it would be pretty big even though usher has passed his peak he's a little old now but i'm swear that's messed up man these are my confessions i'm not in my hottest like i was 20 years ago um andrew what do you think about people saying man this is obvious because kpop and other asian pop artists but specifically south korea they take pop music the most serious so of course they would inspire everybody else because of all the genres obviously not saying necessarily that asia or south korea rap is better than american rap but as far as pop goes this genre is dominant globally i don't know man kpop might be like the mma of music where it's just like mixed like mixed sounds and mixed influences all thrown together uh all spun together and woven together you know seamlessly you're saying it is logical that usher would be influenced by essentially the best pop uh system in the world yeah listen i think the best pop groups in the world are just korean right now because i mean think about what what are the other pop groups after one direction which was a great group i can't think of another one i'm sure there's one's bubbling trying to rise up but i can't think of them they're not big enough for me to know also i do think the western world is kind of like maybe done with producing group pop groups seems like they've shifted their focus yeah i don't i don't know what they think about i don't know i guess in the west maybe it's just seen as like kind of campy or maybe they can't they don't they don't have faith that they can control all the characters without a bunch of uh controversy coming out scandals and only the asians are the ones that can like buy in enough together and then create like this whole yeah like well you're saying treat pop like it's harvard um somebody also said you know this is on the western side but usher doesn't need all that stuff that the k-pop shows have with all the lights he's just a true rare talent he just needs a spotlight and a microphone and he can do all the dancing and the singing himself because you know he's not like systemized and factoryized yeah i do think that falls in line with some aspect of like american individualism where we would want to put the spotlight on this one grassroots artist that's truly talented writes produces performs all their own music and dresses cool and has style and made it out of their mom's basement or their parents garage or whatever it is like they love that story in america it's like rags to riches it's that rebellious culture yeah i mean it is true that culture is like incredibly different yeah and i would say this i mean i guess the fact that the world is latched on to the kind of factoryized k-pop world so much goes to show you something that people don't mind because ultimately the performances are good and the music is good and it's a clean image generally lyrically they are generally cleaner than a lot of you're saying the backstory of coming through the farm system doesn't turn people off i guess i guess why would it honestly it just depends on what culture you come from um and what are your three major takeaways about why k-pop has surpassed american pop specifically in the pop music genre yeah so one analogy is like i feel like k-pop to a lot of westerners is seeing how like asians are seen to a lot of westerners you know so a lot of people know that asians together when they train enough can achieve something and do something very cool whether it's k-pop performances whether it's the 2008 Beijing olympics whether it's all those school kids those chinese girls dribbling at the same time in sync it looks incredible but then you also say oh well individually maybe they're not that good it's just because all of them are training together for 12 hours a day for like two years right i i agree with you that that would be a very hyper critical western eye looking at k-pop or just things in asia in general obviously in asia more collectivist more confusion we just would think we would just not see it that read it that way america likes to highlight the natural talent that someone has while versus like in asia it's almost like these people got together worked together bought in and created this amazing product it's almost like comparable a little bit to like ronaldo ronaldo is considered like a hyper talented a little bit selfish soccer player versus japan doesn't necessarily have like the same level of ronaldo but like as a team very collectivist right very strong as a team um somebody also said yo man i feel like k-pop in the west is a little bit like animes where people can name bts blackpink and maybe now stray kids 50 50 depending how deep they are into the k-pop game and almost like for animes they know pokemon they know dragon ball z they know sailor moon but they don't know the top 50 groups and they don't know the top 50 animes right well the it runs deep and especially in asia more people are going to be fans of all the smaller groups but even in america in asia they're fan of k-pop as a genre but in america they might be only a fan of like the top one yeah i mean even as a casual anime fan i could probably name like five several animes but like i can't name 10 or 15 or 20 even that you know off the top of my head yeah i mean it makes sense even in europe guys if you guys don't know hip-hop is not as big as it is in america so they will name you like 50 cent stoop dog m&m dr dray you know the old school guys but they're not necessarily gonna be listening to vince staples in bulgaria um moving on later somebody just said yo k-pop is 10 out of 10 super polish from the beats to the hooks to the dances that go along with the hooks to the music visuals and they're blending all the genres that you might have five different breakdowns representing five different songs in one track you got an acoustic part a hip-hop part an r&b part a pop part and an edm part all in one song mixed together you can't find that in western music man i don't even know if they would put that much work into like a single song maybe i don't know i mean but yeah it is pretty amazing and uh i just know that koreans the korean pop industry has essentially mastered that style of music yeah no it is very very cool and it's very very let me tell you this if something's been out long enough and asian's going to learn how to do it better yeah somebody also said the fans are hyper participatory in a way that they never were participatory in people's careers in the west yeah i think you have to understand and another thing that people like about kpop is because the the stars despite them coming from like these academies they feel very personal right and they're really good at interacting with fans interacting with them on the internet going on game shows showing their personality travel shows food shows yeah i mean it's something that maybe in the west they would find also kind of cheesy in a different way so because like an artist would not want to put themselves on a game show all the time just for exposure because i don't know like maybe it just seems like overexposed or something like that you know there's this it's very different culturally everything is different um i always thought it was interesting i remember the kpop fans got andrew wiggins to be a starter in the mba all-star game and that's when i was like whoa because i didn't even know kpop they probably weren't even that into the mba but they were able to shift it through the galvanization unified internet efforts obviously they were messing with trump a lot as well some people say that um also the kpop stars are so much better than the american stars i mean naturally i guess maybe because they're asian or maybe because for whatever reason a staying out of trouble not saying that there haven't been anybody surgery from 2 p.m and ended up going to jail but but for the most part it's like five percent or three percent of the criminal charges that you sometimes see against western artists yeah no but in in the west we like our bad asses we like our artists our performers to mess up make a mistake and have a redemption story but in asia it's a little bit more like ahead so like we give you the opportunity to be like rise up and be this star so you gotta be clean yeah let's say you can't make no mistake man if you make a mistake you're gonna go to prison let's just say this in asia if you get caught with certain substances even if you're a pop star you will go to jail for so long your life will be altered forever ever yeah and in america you may just get a tiny slap on the bush but you know it's pros and cons i don't think kpop fans necessarily are dying to see their biggest stars like make a mistake and come back yeah i don't think sherry's coming back and releasing the solo album about like i was like but in america we're like yeah do something wrong be human yeah it's a very up and down country over there i think they value more like stability and like kind of like a slow rise and a slow grind i mean man it's just very different anyway guys let us know in the comment section below what do you think why do you think that kpop or do you think that kpop is surpassed us pop as a genre and why do you think that is if you agree with that statement what do you think about usher given you know black pink all the props are you a blinks are you a bts army shout out to everybody like we said this was not really our core competency field you know i didn't know 10 out of 10 or even close to that in this world but let us know what you thought of our takeaways until next time we to hop up boys we out peace