 Oh my mama. Yeah. Man, we gonna start it, babe. All right, check it out, man. You understand me? It's the Cali Kickback. It's your boy, Lewis Bell. You feel me? You already know what time it is. Jordan Lucas, how you feeling? I'm feeling good. Jordan Lucas in the building. You gonna drink? You gonna drink? I'll take a couple shots with you. You gonna drink? I have some of these mac and cheese. Why not? All right. What's your, I don't even drink. I don't even drink. Pour up. Pour up. Oh, okay. Pour up. Pour up. Pour up. Pour up. It's the Cali Kickback. You don't need no chaser. Don't do me like, I need it. You don't need no chaser. What's up? Hell no, no. For that, I'm gonna give you an extra moment. You just said it's a playground. I said playground. I didn't say hell. Dang. Oh, that boy fucking licking. Oh, see. Oh, you the broken cup. You the broken cup. That's how we do it at the Cali Kickback. I don't even know what time it is. I knew I shouldn't have trusted the white cup. He had a white cup. She did. She did. Oh, you're wasting drinks. That's 55 cents worth of liquor. Right. She leaking. She leaking already. Hell yeah, man. All right. We already starting ghetto. I like it already. You stupid. Hey, man. Let's introduce the guest. Introduce the goddamn guest. Special guest. The special guest. We got a legend in the building, man. Yes. You feel me? You might know him from the group, pretty Ricky. You understand me? But everybody know him. It's Pleasure P. Okay. Give him a round of applause for Pleasure P. being in the building, man. Yeah. You can clap for yourself. Oh, boy, boy, boy, boy, boy, man. You gotta give it up for yourself. You know that. I always wanted to ask you this, man. All right. Where did you get Pleasure P from? Where is it? So when I sing, I give women pleasure. Like, I got the power to, you know, make a girl feel some different kind of ways internally when I lay these vocals on her. So, you know, a pleasure, you know, you pleasure the P and it just kind of like goes together. You know what I'm saying? Oh, you pleasure the P. You really a real Mac for that. Because on my mama, no matter what you was going to tell me, I was going to guess, man, Pleasure to Pussy. You was not going to guess that. On my mama, Pleasure P. What else is your pleasure besides the Pussy? It's self-explanatory. But that was what I was hoping for. Okay. You used to get like niggas back in the day. They be like, man, I ain't holding on to the man. Pleasure, man. Pleasure. You know, niggas feeling really uncomfortable saying that. It's like, yo, just call me P, bruh. Right, okay. I never thought of that. Yeah, it's just P. Yeah, because that is, but I'll be saying P when I say, I believe it's P. But my real name is Marcus, though. So that's the name I'm going by now. So that's what the women that really think they know. You're like, Marcus, I ain't calling you Pleasure P. I'm calling you Marcus. I thought that was just your TV name in the album. You got an album, Marcus Cooper, right? Introduction to Marcus Cooper. But this new wave I got going with new music, it's like galaxy music. But I'm going by the name of Marcus Ramon now. That's like my middle name, so. Ramon? Ramon. Ramon, señor. El señor, si se puede. That grown man, you know that kind of vibe. Oh, so you from Miami? You from the three on five? Yeah, I'm from Miami. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so he be around the Spingers, he be around the pretty black girls, he be a, it's a whole mix in Miami. A whole mix, Haitian, Jamaican, whatever you want is that. He tell my story from Miami, look at that silk. You can only get that embryo. It looks steaming too, it looks steaming. Yeah, you can't iron silk. You gotta steam it. Oh, my mama. It's dinner clothes, dinner clothes. Oh, you going to dinner after this? You gotta put the, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, shit. So what's your favorite spot? Do you have a favorite spot in LA? Cause I'm sure you've been here multiple times. I don't have a favorite spot, but I do have a few spots that I like to go to. Gotta hit crustaceans. Gotta hit katana. Gotta hit tight show. Couple more spots I like to go to. I like catch a lot, stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. You like all the booze, you shit. Right, he ain't like, we're talking about dinner. Right. I go to Harold's on the karaoke, whatever that Cory be doing. I go there and have some fish and chicken wings. It ain't no, you know, you know, pressure. Yeah. I know you're a Florida cat, man. So how is LA for you? Like, you know what I'm saying? Cause Florida is a whole different world. You know, we from the Bay Area. So we fuck with the ghetto shit, man. You understand me? All the time. You know, so Florida is, but Florida not just only ghetto, but it is though. Cause you got Miami, you got the South Beach, and then after that, we got the other side of the bridge. Well, it's the same shit. It's like, you know, you got your, your mom and pop restaurants. Then when you want to, you know, dress up and put on some nice and go on a date, you got the sexy fishes in the prime one. Miami is good for that. We, we, we well rounded. You might go get a nice plate of Haitian food or a nice, nice plate of Oxtail, or you might go, go, like, go to a Cuban spot or something and just have some rice and beans with plantains. You know, it's just. You making me hungry, Pee. You making me hungry. Yeah. You got something for the Haitian or Cuban. Yeah. You just regular black? Yup, just regular. I know that's right. Shout out to the Cuban. Just regular. Okay. Oh boy, boy. So how do you feel like it's been different? You know, I feel like you've been solo for a while now. It's well deserved. You know what I'm saying? You're a talent in your own right. How do you feel like that has been different versus being in a group? Solo is just more me. It's more work to do when you got a group. Let's say I'm tired and I got to do an interview. One of us might be the more energetic person so I can just be laid back or, you know what I mean? It's just, you know, it's kind of like that. On the stage, the stage is filled up more because it's four of us. So it's just like, you know, obviously for me, I had to sing and do ad-libs the whole time. So I'm pretty much working the whole time when I'm on the stage with the group. But yeah, solo is just, it's more me and it's more, I guess I would say, it's more thought behind what has to happen. Like the screens have to be a certain kind of way behind me. And the mic has to be set because it's just, it's no like, you know, you can't deflect. Yeah, you gotta, yeah. So. Aisa, you like being a solo artist for sure. Way more than being in a group? I never thought I would, you know, well, let me start here. So I grew up singing so I was like nine years old. And, you know, the first song I ever sung was Immature, I Will Never Lie. My mom put me in a talent show and I won first place. So since then I've been a solo artist, you know what I mean? And I wrote a lot of songs pretty much before I got in Pretty Rikki. So when I got into Pretty Rikki, like age ain't nothing but that was already, that was one of my songs. Shorty, Would You Be Mine, that was one of my songs. Like I wrote a lot of those songs on- Higher to being in a group. Right. Never knew that. Right, so I met those guys at a talent show and their father had a record label. So I went to their father and was like, yo, I'm a solo artist. That's why you're here. And Baby Blue's first verse of Grind on Me, he said Pretty Rikki, Pretty Boy doing pretty good things. My name was Pretty Boy then. You know what I'm saying? And then, matter of fact, the first song we did together was Grind on Me. So he called me to the studio one day. I was like, okay, I'ma come through there. And it was just, you know, me, Baby Blue and Spec in the studio and the beat played and we worked on that song for like five days. Then by the time that song was finished, cause Baby Blue engineer us and stuff like that. So, you know- So y'all first song y'all ever made together was Grind on Me? Was Grind on Me? So then from there, Jim Johnson came and he heard and they were like, he gotta be in the group. And then that kind of just changed the sound of what they were doing. And they were, there was a rap group named the Mavericks before I got in there. Cause you was the only one that was a singer, right? Yeah, I'm the only singer. Oh, and you, so you not related to them? No, uh-uh. So I thought all y'all was related to all the rest of the group was related? Yes, exactly. Never knew that. Yeah, exactly. Damn, and then y'all, the biggest song at the time, you feel me? And that was you on the hook. Yeah, yeah. And on the ad lives throughout the rest of the song too. Right, cause he said I really did all of the parts that I needed to show up. Cause we will do, you were singing and that's the part everybody was grinding on. First of all, Pretty Ricky was my first concert. I was five years old. I don't know why my mama brought me to that. But I remember to this day, everybody was in blue. It was fly as hell. And I felt like that was one of my favorite concerts. You was five? Yes. And that song came out? No, during the concert. I don't know when, but I heard it everywhere. You hella young. Yeah. God damn. But that's just the- Did that trip you out to hear that? It do. But then again, I was young, I was young too. So it's, you know, I'm still young. Yeah. But we was just like, yeah, in our early twenties. The impact that you guys had was definitely felt by everybody. A lot of people got pregnant to that song. Facts. Let's talk about the album. You had, do y'all understand? Do you understand? You had gangsters really dancing in house parties grinding on the floor. Oh no, no! They was on the floor. Grand niggas. Grand niggas. Grind on me. Niggas put their strap down when they come on. That's your line, take care. But in Miami, that's how it is though, like against the niggas, used to dance to Uncle Luke for the girls and stuff like that and to shoot you right after, you know what I'm saying? You don't give a fuck. They just dancing and having fun, I guess, you know, Lil Duvall, he kind of show like how Florida people would be, you know, still be acting and stuff. Like you go to a Miami party, you'll still get the same thing. So. Yeah. I ain't been to a Miami party. But for an R&B singer though, it's like, I feel like a lot of R&B singers don't get the respect like in the hood that you have. Cause I'm telling you like, you hood niggas favorite singers, like all the ladies love you, but it be hood niggas talking about motherfucking. I'm trying to be like Pleasure P or for example, when you had dropped that boyfriend number two. Boyfriend? You know the niggas was like, hold on. Cause I was a boyfriend number two for the show. And they was taking pride in it. They was like, I ain't got anything. You may sad, you may side niggas cool. I know you did the side nigga anthem, we blame you, we blame you. Pleasure. It's a shot shot of my brother Rico Love. Rico Love actually wrote that record. And you know, just from what I was talking about at the time, like I had a hood classic like digital one that came out first and static major. He would be like, yo, if the hood don't mess with it, don't fuck with it. You know what I mean? So I always just made music for people that I can relate to and that can relate to me. And I don't care about nothing else. You know what I'm saying? So you intentionally knew what you was doing. Like this is gonna make hood niggas get a little nasty. Like he's like, yeah, look, he's like, he remember this about some years. Cause I was like, I'm gonna lick you up. I'm still to this day. I was eating pussy, but I was thinking like I was eating pussy. I'm gonna lick you up. You ain't even got your feet wet yet, nigga. Oh my, my, I ain't, I'm screaming that motherfucker. So, and you mentioned static major who is legendary in the music industry, RIP. Who do you feel like shaped your creativity in terms of music? Who do you feel like were the main people? You like, damn, they inspire me where I could make the music that I make now. They gave me up. They gave me free game. Well, I'm gonna say this guy named Vitamo. He was my first like, when I got out, he pretty much let me, I was working and pretty much pay for demos and stuff. You know, and then I would go to school to pass my CDs around after we burned them and that kind of vibe. So I spent hours and hours and hours of learning how to record with him and the guy named Ludis Charles. And then from there, I graduated to, you know, working with the static majors and you know, all of those kind of people. But by the time I got into the studio with Baby Blue and his engineering, it's like, yo, I already, I'm already good at this. And now, now- She's like, I'm the seasoned motherfucking bitch. It's, yeah, you know, it goes down real fast. So you feel like you better than ever? I am, actually. I know that's right. Hey, ATL, pull up on me and stand me July 27th. I'm at the Uptown Comedy Court and you ain't standing me. It's your boy, Louis Belt, not the hell. Come on, feel free to pull up on me. Pop your pee. Come on, we gon' have a good time. Get your tickets right now. Do not miss out. Yeah. Do you feel like you get the credit you deserve? I do. I do. I feel like I do. And man, look, I work so much every weekend. I'm somewhere different. And it's been like that for the last, I don't know how many years, but you know, just for forever. So that's all the respect I need. When that money touched my bank account and the people show up to my shows and they singing my songs word for word and they, you know. And you see an 11 real life. Cause it's nothing like online is one thing, you know, people will like you one day, hate you the next. But in person, when they like, you did this for me or I was feeling that, it really hits different. Yeah. Like when you press play and you see the club go crazy, the on the hotline, that's all the, and everybody's singing that hotline. That's all the things I need right there. And if you think of that, I didn't got so much ass to your music. I feel like I owe you something. No, they're on everybody's sex playlist. There's not one, it ain't right. If Pretty Ricky or Pleasure Pee isn't on a sex playlist. That's how I feel. Cause you ain't cultured. Yeah, that's crazy. That's gonna set the tone. Do you be fucking to your own music? Right. Of course. Really? Of course. That's gone over the top. You listen to Pleasure Pee and you're getting fucked, Mom. It's all right. It's the music. It's the music. That's what a woman wanna hit. That's what she want. Yeah, we want to be seven nights. She want that. Why would I not use that? I created that for a reason. If it worked for everybody else, why wouldn't it work for me? That's game. And you know that, huh? But he like, yeah. When I was younger, I didn't. And then we kind of just figured it out. Like by the time you play this song, you'll be here if you do this. You know what I'm saying? And it actually works. Yeah, that's crazy. Do you feel like because of the persona that you show to the world, that a lot of women are like, I ain't messing with him because I know he give bitches. For me, it's like that, but I like it like that. Because I mean, you gotta really get to know me, to know that, you know, who I really am. You know, I kind of just, I kind of just being a cut anyway. I'm not like some, you don't hear a lot about, you know, you don't see me doing no, I just be in my own world. Just, I'm just chillin' here. We don't really hear no goofy shit about Pleasure Pee. Yeah, you be on some Pee shit, player shit man. I'm chillin'. It's down to people being as I don't speak on everybody, you know, like this day, like you got everybody speaking on, everybody's shitting. And everybody put their business out so it's giving people room to play say opinions on it. Yeah, I'm cool. Okay, well speaking of that, you did do Love and Hip Hop Miami. Yeah, I did. So you was the home base for where you're from. Do you feel like that gave people room to speak on Pleasure Pee in a way that you've never experienced before? I think that the show portrayed me in the light that I didn't wanna be portrayed in. So that's why I quit. Right. And how you feel like it people portrayed you off being okay. Okay, so they'll record us one day and say, hey, we're gonna do this thing. She's coming. So Shae's coming to, you know, coming down from Atlanta. She has a sexy lingerie on. She has a key right here cause she wants you to move into the apartment with her and whatever whatever. So you do this thing with her. Okay, cool. Then they'll wait another day and they'll be like, yo, your ex is moving in from Jamaica. How about this? She wants you to, you know, she wants you to help her with some connections and stuff like that. Just to kind of get herself off the ground and whatever whatever. And that's it. Give her a kiss on the cheek or something like that. Give her a kiss and say, okay, cool. All right, cool, bam, done. Now when you see it on TV, it looked like this girl done cooked for me and all this kind of stuff. And I just totally just disrespect her and go see another bitch. And now the world is like, I waited all this time to see how he really is. And that's how he is. And I'm like, that ain't even what it is, you know what I'm saying? And then the thing about it is like all those people around, like they're not like, I don't want to say like, they're not, what's the word I'm looking for? They're not like, I don't know how to say this, but they're there. They not on no gangster shit. Or looking out for your best interests. No, meaning like they don't really know what fame is. Oh, right. So they chase it like, we used to have to run away from it. Run away, like run, go to a mall and girls banging on the, like we had experience that so we kind of just know what that's like. They're thirsty for it. So they'll do anything for it. And you find yourself just in the middle of something and it's like, well, damn, that's like, I don't even rule. I don't even move like this in real life. You know what I'm saying? Y'all want to do this for the TV, but yeah. I'm not on that. And this generation is so big on that cloud. Like you have to think, they made a word for thirsty motherfuckers that want a certain sort of fame. You think love and hip hop helped your career or hurt it? I think it definitely helped in the sense of what we used it for. We used it and we did one tour. We were a matter of fact, we did two tours after doing it. So of course, I'm just in a bad experience that I feel like I have. I feel like they portray black men and just be cheaters and it's never like, I'm like, well, why do we have to do it like that? Why can't we just do this? And then just be the truth. They don't want to do that. So that's just scripted? Because that sounds like you were in the script. He said, Lurie got a key. Why can't we do this? She's gonna move in. Is that a script? But it is to a certain extent, but some people go off book. That's what they say. Like how he said, some people was like, okay, well, I'm in front of the cameras. I'm gonna act a certain way. But he's like, they just told me to show up and the girl cook and I am everything. Don't know better. Damn, that was janky. Right. And then they added it in. So it might look like he was enjoying the food. Not for real. Yeah, they did that to me on MTV for show. Oh, you got done like that? It wasn't a negative like though for show, but it made it look like I was on some, like we had intimate connection and it never was for show. Reality TV is good for that. It's good. But you're a player, you can play it. Right, exactly. You using it to promote you guys' tour was even better. Now going on tour, did you feel like you have problems with the guys? You guys were at different points of your lives. So do you feel like it was easier? Okay, we are all here to get this money or it was more like, I gotta deal with these. No, it was more so like, we're just happy to be doing this. You know what I mean? And certain people, they take it serious. And then certain people, they don't. And then after a while it becomes a thing to where you'll see three members now instead of four. Cause this, you know, that's how it goes, so. Did it ever get to a point where it's like, somebody getting too much attention? Like, you know, all the hoes want to fuck with y'all type shit, pretty Ricky type, was it? We know who was getting all the attention. Now everybody got their own fans. Everybody got their own fans. Everybody got their own fans. For pleasure, you respectfully, they had you up there like Beyonce? No, they did. They, yes, they did. He said, I was singing all the time. I was doing a background. They had you working. Listen. I go like, no, we, you know, we fucked with the whole pretty Ricky. No, I love, no, I love the whole pretty Ricky. You feel me? We fucked with the whole pretty Ricky. Just like we love the whole Destiny show. I love Michelle. I love Kelly. But they were pushing Beyonce to breathe. And that's how it was made. But I'm saying, I'm saying for this, like anytime you see an interview or anything, I'm the most quiet lady back when I left. That's what they all say. Beyonce was always a quiet one. That's cause they like. Beyonce used to talk. I wouldn't, I'm more like chill. Like them boys just be the wild ones. All right, let me ask you just straight up. Fuck all this Hollywood shit. We have to Kelly kick back, man. It's thug mansion. Who was getting the most bitches in pretty Ricky? Don't. Everybody had their own shit. That's player. He, you, you a good guy. That's the truth. Everybody got their own taste. Everybody got their own kind of girlie like everybody got their own like, so who can count and say. So that never affect y'all's like y'all relationship. Like we ain't no little B2K shit. We ain't never fall about no women or nothing like that. Oh, I know that's right. We ain't never, we don't say like we, we were raised like, yo, this is what's gonna happen. And if this happens, this is what, you know, we never like fell out about no women or nothing like that. That's very different. Ever. Cause you don't hear about that. It's always the women or some money. Or some money. It really, it'd be the money. Definitely the money though. Okay, that, but that's more player. Have a problem about the money. You don't have a problem about the money. Don't have a problem about the bitch. Yeah, no, no. Cause honestly, she, it was some other niggas in here. She choosing up anyway. Exactly. It really don't matter. It ain't no point to even fight over that. Yeah. That's my boy for number two coming. Can you keep it playing out to be like, okay, he got it this day, but I got it at that day. You feel me? You know, it's two ways to look at that song. We used to do that, you know, like in the group. We used to do that like, yeah. And we was taught to do that. And y'all keep it playing man, cause your day, she gon' try to break y'all apart. You know what I'm saying? Nah, don't say nothing. Just make her think y'all don't know. So y'all done had a little lady y'all passed around in a group with y'all favorite one. I was like, You seen Cindy today? It's the female out there that fucked the whole Pretty Ricky. You seen Cindy today? We had a lot of those. Oh! Bitch, you didn't fuck Pleasure Pills. You fucked Pretty Ricky. Some of them famous now. What? Other girls. Now, pleasure, you know Marcus. You know you can't say that Marcus. Some of them, I said some of them. Who? Yeah, I said some of them. Who? I ain't saying that. Oh, come on, you leave me out here. You don't want me to get a hit? I ain't gon' do that. But, I was saying that. They be at home or they workin' on it? The crazies, like you, it be crazy to see like when you came up and you see these women around and you be thinking like they cool and this and that and that and then time go by and then they come up a little bit or something like that and that's what they was around to do the whole time. Right. And then you're like, oh shit. And then when they see you, now they's like. Oh, they act bougie? Have you almost got caught up with one of those though? Nah, never. Damn. How you know the signs? Cause we had OGs, we listen to OGs, man. For sure. We had good guidance and stuff like that. Free game. Yeah, raised by OGs, not IG. So before we got on, our house was like the frat house. You might listen, you might come there and you might have a girl that you might like and she'll be there one day with you and you'll come back the next day. She was spectacular. And you gotta sit there and hold it. Like your pride, your ego, you gotta hold that. But that talk, that just show you like she gonna do whatever she wanna do with her. That's hers, it's not yours. So don't ever play yourself. Don't ever trick yourself out the road. Yeah. Unless you know, like for sure, for sure, like this your onesie and that's that. That's your individual slice, man. The rest is a whole piece of it, man. You'll be surprised. So what's the craziest story that you've experienced with Pretty Ricky or even on your solo stuff? Like the craziest story where you like, I can't believe this is my life. No, I don't understand the question. It's a lot of them probably. Well, that's what I'm saying. Like maybe a crazy role story or a crazy, just something you've experienced in the industry where you was like, I cannot believe this. Like this is crazy. Like this never would have happened to me unless I was Pleasure Pete in this situation or, you know. Yeah, cause you was popping when you was what? I know you got stories. I don't know. Like that's, I mean, I have stories, but it would not be like, oh, because I was Pleasure Pete this happened. I got a story like, I can't believe this shit happened to me. You know what I'm saying? Well, what's that sound like? It sounds like I was having sex with a girl. She came to the crib. She was smelling really good. Everything was cool. We were actually hanging out at this spot before, you know, before she came back to the crib. So she go home and she said, I'm gonna go home and freshen up and I'm gonna come to your crib. So she comes to my crib. I've been living here in LA at the time. She comes to my crib and, you know, we started kissing and, you know, we doing it. So I get my car and I put it on and I'm going. We going, we having sex. Okay, cool. So TV is on. So the TV goes black for a second. You know, like when it's changing over to something else and then the light comes on. And I looked down and I seen the condom. So I'm like thinking, then my condom came up. I grabbed the condom and I put it back on and I felt like my condom was still on. So I was like, yo, what the fuck? So she had a condom and stuck inside of her. And the first thing I thought about it was like, how long was this condom inside of you? Wait, there's no way. That was the most disgusting shit up. I dropped the condom. What? Yeah, it was disgusting. I was crazy. See now, that's crazy. That's some shit. That's crazy. I was speechless. I never heard nothing like that in all my years. You could have never, I could have, I couldn't have imagined something like that never happened and what had happened. What did she say? I'm sorry. Did you think, you probably did you think like, was it one of your memories before you? Like spectacular, what the fuck you doing with this bitch? Yo, she was just like, I don't want, my God, oh my God, oh my God. Oh my God, what? I didn't actually know you were gonna say it. Oh my God, what? I'd have been scared. She was like my, and my ex, when I went home he was there, he was trying to have sex with me, but I told him no, I just, I didn't even care at that point. I was just like, she was like, mom, yeah, exactly, she was like, I just want to take a shower and go to sleep. I was like, you're not taking a shower, you're not going to sleep, you gotta go. Yeah, you raggedy bitch. That's some raggedy shit. That's some raggedy shit. I'm not gonna lie. That's some raggedy shit. She wasn't, she didn't look raggedy, huh? She was bad. I know he was like, she smelled good. We had a good time. He would have never known. Never know. That's crazy. Wow. Hey Riley, I'm on my way in North Carolina. Pull up, you understand me, just lie 29th. I'm at the venue. That's what it's called, right? Well, wherever I'm at, you know I'm in Riley, North Carolina. Louisville, not the hell you understand me. I'm popping out just like this from the back. So get your tickets. When I pop out, I want to see people. So make sure y'all get your tickets. I'll see y'all in a minute. Never know. Have you ever tried to be in a relationship with somebody famous? Yeah, for sure. And how does that work out for you? Do you feel like it's kind of, not competing of the egos, but do you feel like it's harder because you know she has a job too. She has to travel. She has to portray a certain image and things like that. Nah, nah, nah, I'm cool with all of that. I understand, you know, I would, you would think that because we're in the same business that, you know, she would be more understanding, but she not that understood. The woman is not that understanding because I'm still me. Oh, mamas, I don't give a fuck who you is, I'm me. So she don't, she don't understand. So it becomes a problem. And then it's a lot that comes with that too. Cause it's like, now this person is kind of stuck to your name and legacy for a minute. I hate that shit. So it's like, most of the time I just, if I dated a famous girl or something like that, we just kind of keep it on the low. And I just kind of stuck the way with it. When it's private, cause they, when you're, but he'll be getting no money going public with the girl. Yeah, but that's the whole thing is like, what's the point in that? I'm gonna give my own money. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna bring my, you know, I'm gonna get my own stuff. So now you got women in the, in the business. They like, oh, this is gonna be my look. So let's get a good look. And the whole team is behind it. And it's like, so then it's not genuine. So what's the point behind your relationship? No, yeah, her team is like, you know, this, this will be a good look for you. You know what, I don't know about him because this is the, but this is the look. You know what I mean? This is the look you- People, people in their ears. Yeah, for sure. And it's like, anybody should be able to like anybody. You know what I mean? I'm here for the lovers. We here for the- And that's what I'm gonna get. For the cameras. Right. Should I do it for the lovers? Should I do it for the lovers? He didn't want to do it for the money. So he want to use it. No, I'm so not like that. But what I'm saying is that's so popular in this industry is when that's what made me curious. That's not what you think it is. There's people always in your business. Yes. I mean, you can't even go out to dinner with a friend. You're gonna say, oh yeah, they dating her now. And they together. Like, come on, bro. I've been, you know, we've been cool for 18 years or whatever the hell. Now I can't even be my, you know, be myself. Right. That's kind of crazy. Damn. Yeah, that's- Yeah, and then when the woman break up with you and shoot with the next nigga in the next month, you know what I'm saying? They do it fast too. Yeah. You be like, damn, that can't be real love. When I'm in a relationship, it take me like, like some of my relationships, I need a time to heal. You know, like, you know, when you really- When you gonna put your all in. Yeah, when you can put your, it take your time. You were like, damn, you were nothing like already? What the fuck? Like, then you know it wasn't really real. Then you know it wasn't real. Well, speaking of hard pills to swallow, what do you feel like is one of the hardest lessons that you had to learn being in the music industry? For the people that don't know. That everybody not your friend. Don't. Because you like, us, we spend so much time on the road and with people and stuff like that. You start seeing like, well, damn, when I ain't got this record out, now these people aren't there. You answer your phone call, they. But as soon as you get something back going again, they come right back and you start seeing like, well, damn, what kind of shit is that? So for me, I've been pretty consistent on, you know, the people that I deal with. So, no matter where I go, whether I'm in Australia, New Zealand, London, New York, LA, I got the same, you know, the same friends that I- The same inner circle. Yeah, I try to keep it with the same people, you know. Yeah, cause you came in the industry young. Yeah. So I can see you. How old you said were you? 20. Wow. Yeah, 20. Yeah, so by the time we like, with 24, 25, we living in Bellera State. It's like, I'm out here fucking shit up like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. You have no hoes and clothes around this motherfucker at that time. You got all of those people around, coming to your house parties, this is that you spend the money on this but then you start seeing like, damn, that wasn't. This shit ain't even real. It's fake. So yeah, if you had to, if you had to like, redo something, you know, in your earlier stage of your career, what would you change? Like, I'd have been mine for this and I wouldn't have, you know what I'm saying? I wouldn't have changed nothing. I'm happy with my life. I'm happy with the lessons I learned. Cause if I wouldn't, I didn't learn them. I wouldn't be who I, you know, to a place where you understand what real happiness is. You know what I mean? Is it the money? Is it the cars? Is it the clothes? What make you know it don't make me? What make you happy? What make, just the simple things in life. You know what I'm saying? Just, you know, waking up and being able to thank God that I'm alive, being able to, you know, chill my family, you know, stuff like that. And people gotta really value that because, you know, you hear some of these successful people get on platforms and be like, you know, the money don't make me happy but it's like, when you broke, you need like nigga, fuck all that, I need the money. Frankie, I need this money. You feel me? Yeah, but I'm standing in the sense of like, okay, for instance. It's not the feeling. I spent time in Jamaica for like, maybe three years. And it's a person that like, this is what really changed my perspective because I say I went from a mansion in, in Mulholland Hills to a condo in Worcester and I was just so defeated. Like, damn, I just dissent. But it's like, nigga, you got a nice condo in Worcester. What do you, you got two, what are you complaining about? So I went to, I go to Jamaica and I see these people, they just on the corner chilling, playing dominoes and they got their cue of rum, you know what I'm saying? And they got a fish and they're like, you want some? You know what I'm saying? They ain't got a lot, but you want some? When I started seeing that kind of thing and they still happy, they still play music and they, and they go back to work and they, you know, they enjoy their life. It's like, damn bro, like that's what real, real happiness is for me. Yeah, like you got to really be happy within yourself in order to, you got to love yourself and be happy within yourself to even be happy. Listen, I done been out here, I done seen some of the biggest celebrity, 40 million dollar mansions, miserable, for real, miserable. He like for real. Just build a dream home, miserable, right? Cause they don't know where to get it from. Materials can never really fulfill you because that's not where we were here. They don't know where to get it from. They battling in some shit that they, you know, in the past that, yeah, you know what I mean? It's like, you know, my daddy always say, keep the air clean around you. So guess what I had to do at some point in my life? I had to go back and forgive everybody for everything. And I had to stop, you know, being a victim when it comes to stuff and I had to be at peace. Once I became at peace with everything, I'm happy. What can, what can, what can I be mad about now? Right. Damn, that's some, that's some, that's some gain, that's some knowledge you can't get in college right there. Going to Jamaica will do that to you. That whole vibe is different. Like, it just feels so humble and close to home. You know, no one is worried about the old posting and the social media. And that's another thing. Like you said, you had a condo, they'll be like, you ain't shit. Cause you used to, it's the people and what they say about you too and what you expect, what you're expected to have. And it's just, it's all not worth it. Cause these people ain't paying no bills. They ain't paying, these people ain't pay one bill. Not one. It seemed like, it seemed like being famous before social media era was going, it was better than nowadays being famous. Definitely, for sure. Why would you say that though? Cause I'm assuming. Because there's so many pretenders and it's like, well, damn you, everybody copying off each other. And then they, you know, like you feel like you, you, you got people following the wrong people. Yeah, right? Oh, mama's. That's it. I'm like, damn y'all, like, This what y'all looking at too? A girl, like this, I'm looking up. I'm like, I actually know that girl for real. All right, you, you, you don't want to look. Yeah. It's fucking with you. You understand what I'm saying? That's how it, it is for me at least, you know? Yeah. But yeah, like I said, listen, you can be holding on to something, man. And you don't realize you become it because it can be affecting you in different kind of ways. Until you make peace with it, it's gonna, it's gonna fuck with you forever. You been a therapy? Nope. Are you against it? No, mama. He sounds like you've been a therapy. I know, I'm like, you've been over it. I was surprised. Cause mama, mama, I asked my mama, I'm like, would you ever do therapy? She's like therapy is when you talk to your friends. I'm like, girl, you need help. Yeah. It's just, it's just, it's just time. Me, I had to, I had to take the time to really reflect and learn more about myself. And then when they be like, you need to read this book and that book. When I started reading a little bit, I was like, I already knew that. I already kind of, just based on how I grew up in the lessons. Yeah. You know, kind of, kind of crazy. School of life. Yeah. I live that shit. Yeah. I live a four million in the bank, zero. Oh, we gotta get it back. I lived money coming, going, it's going to always be somebody with more money than you. And that's really part of the game, huh? Ups and downs. It ain't no level where you go through, it no matter what level you go through, you're going to go through ups and downs in your career, huh? It longevity. It ain't never going to be perfect, especially if you're investing yourself. Yeah. Bosses take losses. Hello and rebuild again. That's a real boss is a, is a nigga that could rebuild again. Exactly. Or me and I should say. That's where the lessons come through. Yeah. And yeah, you went through all, you've been, you've been independent of course, right? Yeah, for sure. I love it though. You like independence more than the label? I do. Why? Cause I get to control pretty much everything I want to do and how I want to be seen. So from my digital marketing team, to my, to my radio staff, to my publicists, to just anybody that I hire, you know, like I have a, you know, all my head of marketing, like I have a handle on everything I do. And I pay everybody. I know what's coming in. I know what's going out. I know if I want to invest into a bigger production for my show, then I'll do this. So, you know, these are the things that come like as of now, but you know what I mean? But you feel, do you feel like you would have been able to get to this level you at right now if you were to stay independent from the beginning? Oh, no, no, no, absolutely not. But what I did, what I did was radio big time. What I did learning the label is just, you know, I used to sit at the Latin records every day. So I got to learn what each person do. And those people now are, you know, the people that was coming up, they're the heads of things now. And I'm able to still like, you know, just networking. Shake hands. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, you was able to utilize the resources from labels and know the value in them because this worked for the label. Right, yeah. Exactly, that's who they use, but I got access to use them. Why not? I've been shoving learning. And it's sad now because a lot of artists don't even really realize what's going on behind these labels. Like it doesn't mean interviews are up and coming female artists. And they're like, what's the 360? Oh, I got to pay this back. They thinking they're getting up. She's like, I got to pay this back. And they're like, yeah, you got to, they're investing in you to see if you can recoup and then you can keep that money after that, but you got to get in their money back. But they're not even knowing is these younger artists. Do you feel like things have changed now where people are more aware of what's going on behind the doors of labels? I don't know. Okay. I stay at my own and I don't know what people know and what they don't know. But you know, I know what I know. And I know, you know, this new music I'm about to drop is about to, you know, definitely change the game and give people the feeling that they've been missing for a long time. For sure. Because there's a feeling that's been missed. That's what I'm from. We gon' talk about it. Obviously. Because I ain't gon' lie, bro. Like after Pleasure P and Pretty Ricky and the Bobby Valentino's and the Usher's and all that air, I ain't been fuckin' with the new shit. You ain't been fuckin' with the new shit either. I haven't. Really? No, it's the people that I love, but it's not that, I get what he, it's that feeling like, I don't know. It just feels nostalgic. What is the, what do you feel like what's missing in R&B right now that you said that's missing? I think diversity. I think everybody's song shouldn't sound the same. So if someone walk a one with this kind of sound, why is 15 more people trying to do the same sound? Like that's, you know, like if there was a time R&B where, yeah, Bobby Valentino had slow down, Pretty Ricky had ground on me. That's two different styles of R&B. Facts. But it, it worked. That's two different bitches, I'm fuckin'. You know what I'm sayin'? For the Freaky Ho, I'm slappin' Pretty Ricky. For the women, you feel me on some like, oh, but you got loose round places. I care about this one. Then you got the Nio's out at the same time with the, you know, that kind of stuff. It's like, yo. Yeah. It was some Nio niggas for sure. Yeah, you needed Nio. You needed everybody. Yeah, yeah. Everybody plays their part. Yeah, they did. There you go, mamas. And I just feel like with today's music is like, I don't know when and who kids came and took over the business and made the decision of, okay, we're gonna control radio this way, we're gonna do this and this and this. But I remember a time where Jay-Z had a song out and he sounded like Jay-Z. DMX had a rap song out. He sounded like DMX. And it was still enough room for, you know, Jacket Edge and them to be on the radio. Oh, Jacket Edge go crazy. And it was still enough room for 112 to have peaches and cream out and, you know, all of this, like it was enough room for everybody. I just wish music was like that again to where it's enough for everybody. Why everybody got to do the same thing? Because social media. Social media and they say to labels now, like, we need it to be that this is a hit. They just lead in, it's like the blind lead in the blind. Because they don't really know, it's a lot of older people at these labels too. So they don't really know what the younger generation wants. They know what they think we want. So now we're hearing all these songs that sound the same because that's what they think we want. And then it's just becoming repetitive. Ontario. I'm on the way. Hey, check it out. August 13th at the Ontario Improv, stop playing with me. I know y'all be at the mall out there. I want the whole IE to pull up Pomona. Bring y'all ghetto ass out too. I know how y'all fuck around at Pomona. So I'm being Ontario, IE come see me. You understand me? I'm gonna pop out like this. And when I pop out, I want to see y'all. God damn me. So get your tickets right now. Thank y'all love everybody. It's your boy Lewis Bell. I got balanced to it. I'll see y'all in a minute. The labels do that to y'all like, hey, this is a hit. We need y'all to do this because this is what a hit is. We wrote our own stuff. We brought our own hits to the table and it came in. They say, hey, this is the one we think, okay, that's the one. You know, the whole building going crazy. Everybody have an input and then we put it out. I think social media too. Everybody acting like everybody cause social media. You got a nigga in the Bay Area acting like a Florida nigga. You got a Florida nigga acting like a Bay Area nigga. Because social media, you know people like you said, copying everybody type shit. And I think that's watering down the talent too. It's watering down personalities and it's watering down talent. Yeah, like you said, it's more popular. It's more about being popular now than being talented. Yeah, absolutely. And that's affecting the industry. Music, cause it's like that in comedy. Bro, we went to, I went to the B.T. It was a couple of years back with my son. And they told me I couldn't walk the red carpet with my son. So I kind of got mad and just went off cause I felt like, yo, we did one on six in park. We like, we were part of the- Make your own culture. I'm like, you're part of the culture. And then I look on the red carpet and I just see all these influences there. I don't even fucking know, bro. And not taken away from anybody hustle, but we put the work in like, you say our name, people come in to see us. You know what I'm saying? I can't say the same for them. I don't know, but that like, that's, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, no, it's crazy. Cause you know that comedy, I feel the same way. It's like, I'm standing in a community about a real life type shit, bro. I be seeing niggas with millions of fathers. I treat them the same like any, you don't get a different level of respect cause of your followers to me or mama. It was a nigga the other day. I'm lying, nigga. But BT been going down. So I hope you was, you've seen what it was this year. Oh, I don't go to- They call it the EBT Awards. Yeah, so you don't even gotta worry about that. You ain't catching me, listen, you won't catch me at none of that. And they letting anybody in. They said somebody was in there selling food stamps. I would have bought them, but I wasn't there. One more. I don't see me at work. I had a show at RSVP. You know, we got a group, Ray J. Sammy, Bobby V and myself. We got a group called RSVP. And yeah, we've been doing shows. I had a show with them in Atlanta on, you know, for the BT Awards. I think Ray J actually went to the awards, but nah, nah, I'm cool. I feel you. I stay out the way. Hey, man, you doing it? Plus, when you go to them kind of things, it's the same fake-ass people. Like, hey, what's up, man? Let's work. Let's do, do, do, do, do, do. You hit them up and they'll answer your phone call. And then it's like, what was the point of that? What was all that for? And then you see me again. Like, bro, just stay away from me, bro. You ain't even gotta- I ain't going out, P. I was feeling that same way. That's all those nerves. I'm like, P, don't do that to me. Because I see you, I say, okay, put your piece there, you gon' go. Then I'm like, I ain't heard from you. Nah, so me, I don't wake up. I don't wake up to like five, six o'clock every day. PM? Yeah. Oh, because you going to bed late? No, I record all night. So I be in the studio till like eight, nine, 10 in the morning sometimes. Then I get my little sleep in it, and I'm back at it. So you got your own regimen. That makes sense. You're my night person. That's player. That's where you make the best tunes. Yeah, exactly. When all the spirits sleep, I'm up. Okay. Cause during the day they're bothering you. You live through pussy hours. Sex hours. Not any time, any hour can be sex hours. Okay. Anytime, any place. What's better sex? Morning sex or night time sex? That's hard, I know. Depends on the person. No, it depends on the day. I bus fast in the morning. In the morning? In the morning, we gon' fuck for two minutes. But then at night is fine. I feel like we sleeping in the morning. I'm feeling like, I don't know, I ain't supposed to be doing this. But in the morning, I don't feel like that. I don't know, maybe because you be on the liquor in the night time. And in the morning, it probably just kind of ran out of you or something. I don't know. Yeah, that could be some. I just feel like night is always real mysterious. I like night time sex. I gotta like you fucking in the morning. Well, yeah, cause it's like. That's out of pocket though. Do y'all kiss in the morning? Are you kissing? No brush teeth? Oh, and I gotta brush my teeth first. That's a quick. Some niggas like. That's a quick, like let me just run in the bathroom. You know, you know, whatever. See, man, we treat our mouth, we treat our mouth like how women treat their pussy. Right. Nigga dog, they dig. Right, right. My mouth. Well, hold on, we ain't finna do all that. Right. Yeah, I know a lot of guys are, I ain't gonna kiss, but. Yeah. Yeah. Not to me though. So, hold on. Yeah, yeah, you don't want to, you don't want to do that. Right. Oh, mama. Right. Yeah, man. I'm just glad you came through, man. We just wanted to give you flowers. This is spot where you feel me in California. You understand me? Where, you know, we can get ghetto, but we gon' keep it a little bougie too. For sure, for sure. And we gon' give flowers, you feel me? Absolutely. I ain't want to motherfuckers that way to people. You know. Pass, and then it's a hashtag. Nah, nigga. For me, I want to tell you, cause I'm 29, nigga. I grew up going to hella house parties, dancing on the floor, fuckin' in the car. You played a big part of my life. That's lovely. I appreciate you. It's an honor for me to be sitting here. You come on the platform, man, and chop game with me. And they still speeding off tunes up on TikTok. They speeding it up now. Oh, listen, you can't go to R&B party and not here on a hotline, or I beat it up, or, you know. Ooh, I beat it up. Your body was my favorite. I don't care what nobody say. There's so many lap dances to that. I beat it up. You rock it. I was on ass. I believe it. That part, you know what I'm saying? Right, mama's. You are very happy you came through. They can't take that from us, and they can't take the fact that, you know, we did what, one, two, three, maybe three or four years of touring, non-stop Millennium tours. We've been doing that for the last three or four years. I did it solo the last year. So, yeah, we're still setting out arenas. We still have, for like this, don't sleep. You know how the OGs, you know how the OGs are. You know how the OGs fuck with like Charlie Wilson and the Aussie brothers, and they gon' keep comin' out. That's y'all for our generation, bruh. Pretty Ricky can keep comin' out. Pleasure P can keep. We gon' really be at that motherfuckin' and really enjoying it though. Oh, mama, cause I really know all the words. I don't know these new words. How do you feel about people sampling all the music though, the samples? Man, oh. Sampling your music, sampling other people's music, cause now it's like we a sampling generation. Man, they sampled a lot of our stuff now. I'm gettin' like, yo, can you clear this? Can you clear that? I know he runnin' shit now. They like you. He's like, I don't know, can't I? I like it though. I like it. I think it makes a whole younger generation be like, okay, and then of course, the older generation, my generation, they gon' love it too, so it's a dope mix. Yeah, as long as they payin' homage then. Okay. Yeah, that's all that matter. Yeah, don't make it like you created the sound though. Okay, but that's what they do. Now they don't even, they'll just do the song and then it'll sound like a cover. It won't even sound like it's own original song the way they sample now, it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. It's not original, and I feel like that's what we had with them. We had an original sound. Would you like, when they sample your song, would you like the artist to be like, hey, I want you on the remix or something or like only? I think it's corny, you know, I already did it. Why do I need to be on the remix of my own song? That makes sense. Like for me, like I actually hate it. I'm like, yo, just do the song. Yeah, nigga, go ahead, just sound like me. Nigga, hurry. Do whatever you want to do too. Why do I need to get on that? Do you have some horrible stuff where you like, oh, I'm not clearin' this. Nah, I haven't heard it, nothing crazy like that yet. Okay. So I've been pretty lucky, but yeah. Yeah, not for real. Yeah. Jordan, anything you want to say before we get up out of here? I think I don't say everything I needed to say. You didn't take your shot though. You know I didn't take the shot. If I had a little juice pleasure, if I had a little juice. It's Marcus too, but it wasn't Marcus. Okay, Marcus. Well, if I had a little. I like what she said that. She said that. No, Mark, cause yeah, if I would have had a little, if you would have came in with some minima or some lemonade, it would have got drunk. But you ain't take your shot though, you did? I thought we was gonna have a moment cause it's the, you know, the Kelly kick back. I'll take it with some water. I ain't gonna lie if you're gonna be that boozy. I thought we were. You gotta take a shot. Niggas a legend, nigga, oh mama. I'll take a shot. Come on, fuck it. I'll take a shot with Marcus. Oh, I love her. All right. Make sure it ain't leaking now. You might gotta double cup it. Nah, I don't double cup. This is the Kelly King bag cup. Man, real pleasure. I don't drink, so I gotta just, ah! Let's do it. All right, good show. All right, man. Cheers to three legends in the motherfuckin' building. That's right. You understand me? Ooh, that's a lot. I don't wanna pour it a little bit. Ooh! I still got some left a little bit. Ooh! My stomach burning. Definitely burn. Ooh! Definitely burn. I had to do it though, I had to do it. It's the Kelly kick back. God damn, nigga, I got a tear comin' on my eye. Hell of a shit. See, he's showin' out. Oh, mama. Nigga on my mama. Nigga, the first time I smoked was with Burner. You feel me? It did, nigga. I done sip some with my nigga. I know Marcus, guaranteed. You can't call him, he said I can't call him Marcus. He didn't say you. Okay, good, cause I like all my nigga pledges because I like the pledges and the T shit. Right, let him check it. Check that nigga next time. You understand me? Check that nigga next time. Pledge of P and Louis B to P. Okay. Yeah, man! That's right. It's the Kelly kick back, man. Appreciate y'all for tapping in. Make sure y'all subscribe. Ooh, shit. Get the other cup. We out this thing.