 ैPlay'' ैPlay' curry boy ैPlay' ैPlay' ैPlay' L पूटिब महताब सेंग लोग गड़ at the position which he was playing you can't expect him to suddenly start dominating the strikers in front of him because at the end of the day there is only that much you can do but jab bhi tackles किले जारा था he looks sure of what he was doing बीज बीज में मिस्टेक्स करें but तोड़े गलिम्सिस भी तखाये हैं वोसने अचा खिले है हो, stop her back then after all that, I felt that same, all the Indian players except Mauya who can control the pace and whom the player is much more calmer than anyone the first goal or second goal was the first penalty अराग ड़केगेगा तो महता आप अप स्प्च्थ लेग की ले गा अन प् ठौर ड़ेषाँ आप मैंगंत़ा, पाँद मैंट्यादी तौच्चा थरुद़े ऻी है जी है, अगर तो भीखाड़ा मैंट्दाप नीए अप प्ऊश त्चोनि चद ताएट मैंद्गेगा टेख if alshabab is an is an example who can place so many passes on the on the on the front and put so much pressure and take so many people to attack at one go the holding them to a draw that is a little bit difficult to draw but if you do it then I think it will be very good I will appreciate at least I will like that are you surprised whenever jahu was getting the ball he was trying to play through to Gabriel in the middle Gabriel was coming in and the ball was running and then they were trying to find Bipin or Vikram making runs and doing that one more way is to do this but it gets a little obvious after a point of time how many times will you keep doing that are you surprised that we still don't do this place where you are loading left side left side you have loaded all the right side people are standing outside to open play and they tried doing this post 80th minute they pushed it out to Changte, he came in full back, overlapped, made a little game were you surprised they didn't try doing that earlier was it just a lack of confidence I am not going to give it, I will give it to him and he will run it to brazilian of course lack of confidence and Changte is a guy who have just joined Mumbai they still need time to have that understanding between of course foreigner even though I feel that Gabriel didn't do anything like that but you are going to pass to Gabriel on the right side he could have given but if you see the game yesterday position wise there is not much difference because we were playing 2-3 passes in the middle third it is only when we go to the final third you said nothing was going on so in final third we were going to score and when we start from the back when we start from the back if you see on the luncheon how much tension was there that he was fumbling sometimes even the goal so in this level we should not see that goalkeeper has to be more confident in this level if you see on the luncheon when the ball is falling off of course 1 or 2 shapes it is so much of an attack that he has saved 2-3 it has not been 5 or 6 but at the same time whenever he has the ball we could see that he is very tense and that is the advantage for the opponent that if the goalkeeper is so strong then the whole defender becomes a trouble for the defender so it was a difficult game but at the same time step by step we will have to go but like you said earlier the confidence will be less because after a long long time for the first time you are playing against such a big team it takes time but first half I would say that there is not much opening there is not much opening in the second half if you see that they have opened a lot in the second half but am I the only one who feels there is a question mark on the penalty and because you know why when I put it out on twitter to promote the show I was putting it out on instagram I was putting it out deliberately was it a penalty question mark so that I get a sense that am I the only one no one replied because if you see the replay again he has fallen before the box the first before the day started secondly one replay shows he has not even touched him he has not even touched him but did you guys get the sense that you felt because I didn't get anyone else who is kind of agreeing with what I am saying I don't think it was a penalty you heard on audio the audio was caught at the bench where Des Buckingham was also saying this is not a penalty not a penalty no VR, no VR but anyway what did you feel no penalty or penalty for you from where you saw it whichever angles you saw and what did you make I felt a penalty from the first angle but at the same time when the replay was showing maybe there are chances but for me is why first of all Mehtaab have to do an offside trap and secondly why goalkeeper if you look at the angle of the ball it goes towards the corner flag while Lanchenpa have to rush the second thing is he could have saved it it would have been better if it was a penalty so the first thing is how we could have stopped if you defend it well stopper if Mehtaab was more sensible if he was standing in his place then the situation would not have been like that and secondly Lanchenpa is still immature so he has rushed he has rushed to show the world that yes he is hitting even though like you said he is not touching in the replay and play acting if he says if you see this Latin American we all know that how good are they in play acting and referee is not a Bhagwan it seems that he is a penalty from that angle I think he is a penalty because I was surprised it's not a clear penalty let's agree on that it was not a clear penalty obvious penalty as they say I am thinking from a broadcasting point of view sir because when you are in broadcast whatever the contentious decisions of a game are you play them over and over again because that tells you the story of the game this is how it started I did not see a single replay after that I went to the hotstar in the morning then I saw that I was making my own donkey then I saw and then I saw that angle and I felt that this is not a penalty what do you think from where you were looking did you think it is a penalty or you agree with me you are muted sir I think in the beginning I felt it is a penalty but again the referee doesn't have the have the advantage of seeing a replay which I had of course then doubts had in my mind and again as Renédy said very very I agree with Renédy to a great extent the goalkeeper had no business to go there as it is the the attacker went to an acute angle it could have been it could have gone out atleast the goalkeeper could have because he rushed out in a manner which was uncalled for so and his intentions were not too good see intentions you cannot sitting here but and penalty or no penalty Mumbai FC had to consider because the pressure was telling because the pressure was telling the pressure was telling the pressure was telling so overall I would side with the referee because not that this penalty has completely changed the scenario of the game it is not that it has it is a there is a huge difference between this has decided the trophy not that it was obvious the result was obvious and their referee thought it is a penalty he has given it so even a striker from the 6 year box can balloon over the crossbar and we can say that let's take it as the referee let's take it as the referee also but decision hasn't made any huge effect on the match that much I can say we had to come in this way we went to take the penalty then we came back did you score or not and tell us what do you think and you had the benefit of the replay irrespective we are assessing it so you take every replay into account unfortunately unfortunately there was no B.A.R I guess you guys are already excited about that so the referee didn't have the benefit of any replays I mean I am inclined to agree with Janip said at first side the television angle is the only view we really get in real time so the way it looked from that angle from where we were seeing it at boom it looked like a penalty replays you were saying that it's it's not a penalty you can watch him the guy went down it looks like a box as well I know I mean it looked like the player was definitely inside the box that much from the replay I could make out how much contact was there I am not sure but like again this is part of gamesmanship or part of the learning process that I guess strikers who play at a certain level to go down when not to go down I am not saying it's the right way to do it I mean that player should be diving or whatever but in that position when you are one on one with the goalkeeper and the keeper is essentially he is kind of put himself in a position where he doesn't have a choice but to lunge for the ball right in that scenario it's always going to be a question mark he is a little trigger happy that's what you call them I am saying he is a little trigger happy before my thing went off Rendi bhai I think was bringing up how Lachempa, young goalkeeper good for him I think one of the major positives of all of this is that all these young guys will learn a lot from the mistakes they make as well as from the positives that they do they were trying to play from the back there were a few times when his first touch was really like a little bit I mean not anywhere close to as often and as sure as it should have been so there could have been a couple more chances that came out of that trying to build from the back and when they were also trying to build from the back to what end they were trying to build I didn't quite understand so if you are going to give the ball to Jahu in the end and he is going to launch a 50 yard ball anyway or you are going to launch a ball down the flanks anyway then building from the back in that sense doesn't really serve any purpose and I think the minute Alshabab clocked that they also started to push much higher up the pitch and therefore more pressure was on Mumbai city thereafter so I mean inclined to agree with both the opinions here that whether or not it was a penalty it really didn't have much of an impact in terms of the end result of this game but would you agree with the contentious would you agree with the contentious decision yeah man of course yeah I don't understand this you worked on broadcast contentious decision should be shown over and over again in a 90 minute game we didn't see any replay maybe it's a world maybe it's a world feed maybe it's a world feed that's going out the commentary was different there are story tellers at the end of the day world feed, India feed Raipur feed, Kanpur feed they are all story tellers they are presenting a story to the viewer yeah man I agree with you but football broadcasting has changed since the introduction of VAR it has changed so much that when the decision is less than 50-50 or there is a lot of contention like you are saying if there was no contact in that case I told not to show those replays again and point out the referee's error also it's a part of what modern football has become no bro seriously come on it doesn't happen in the UK in the UK now they have VAR so you know then like it's clear when it goes to the video assistant and the video assistant also then gives a contentious decision then you can debate it day in day out the whole day it becomes a drama for you but when VAR is not in play so I think there shouldn't be a lot of referees in the fall too so maybe I don't know it's a fair point it's a broadcaster's job is to tell you the story of the game if the referee has made a mistake in the game that's part of the story of the game it's part of the narrative that comes out from the game Ishwak Ahmed is with us sir good to see you 10th hmm no penalty even if it is foul it's outside you saw that other the third replay the third replay told you no no even the first moment I saw it even like when it was live I saw because I was watching till you know these days I have to wake up at 3.30 so I cannot watch much football so I was watching it live I first instant all that time only I felt it's a it's outside because you can sense it like like we eat and live football so it's just that fraction of second that I felt it's not and I clearly felt there was not enough I know I thought referee even the linesman should have been you know like brave enough to maybe sometimes you know under pressure you are playing in middle east you know like you are playing in Arab country and one of their home team sometimes you do small small favors like it's very normal but but this is this is the football you know like mistakes you commit mistakes you get punished after game because we've already had a chat and the general consensus I'm guessing you won't be much different that the gulf in difference between the two teams is so wide that this want for expecting team from India to go and win in the champion league is just it's a it's a dream that's it's a number of years away far away from it right it can it can happen by like but I'm a little bit disappointed with the Mumbai city FC like as in like they had the time unfortunately their striker they should have had earlier like they knew from the last year they're gonna play the champions league so so the foreigner should have been sought out like which which foreigner is gonna play where and but it's their internal thing I don't want to comment much on that but I felt they they badly missed one good striker up front who could have hold they tried to play out and and they did many times in patches they played good football they were brave to play in build up from the behind which was nice to see a Pooja was really nice but then when they were in the attacking third I think the decision making of some of our Indian players was really poor I I I feel Bipin should have been doing little bit better because he has like now good experience to play international football also so pace wise we were good like some of the Indian players they they were matching the pace which was really nice to see but again no one to hold up front and the ball was immediately coming back so I think that was the biggest problem for Mumbai you know like they came out from the top they used to come out from the top situation behind when they used to press them high and I tell you one more thing I don't think Alshaba was that good also not taking away you know like especially in pressing but give credit to Mumbai FC definitely they tried to play from the behind it was not like going hitting the ball up front and then going and coming back they kept the ball and playing in Saudi Arabia which is like the host and the host team also from there only so not bad you know like couple of times they could have done better especially attacking you know like I felt where Bipin or somebody should have cut in and try to score himself rather than going wide I think that lack of confidence that we can do it is still missing but overall you know like 3-0 on papers look okay it was bad but overall honestly playing against some like such kind of teams it was not that bad playing and that too it's the debut for them could have been 7-0 true absolutely could have been definitely more but what I am saying that they did well in patches but the only missing part was that up front a good striker maybe they could have lost 4-1 who knows I am not saying that but they would have got something and two goals and the first penalty if you see has come from that error only they lost the ball up front easily which should have not been you know like they should have kept the ball position easily with the foreign striker they would have been able to keep those balls Renati bhai because you brother there is two way of seeing it you know like see now there are few positives that we can take I already mentioned Mouya and the young players if you are going to give them a platform we cannot criticize them in 2-3 years they will get better if you are playing to get a point you cannot play this game and these players cannot play right now then if you are going to get a point and the style of the game have to change if you are playing Lajenpa and if you are thinking of playing off from the back it is not going to happen right now but then Indian fans with so many people supporting so many people watching we want to see something great and which is not happening also so yes we have to give time to these kids they could have had the same or you have to bring better players so there are two ways of seeing it I don't know if you guys can I have understood you were saying such a great point there was silence here I have a question on the third goal which came from a cutback from the right back back and then Turkey put it in the corner isn't that like you are talking about Apuya and the performance maybe in the midfield isn't that the kind of ball or the kind of space that these guys need to have the constant switch on to be able to cut off yes brother that's cool that's why I said the players have not played in the highest level this is the first time they are playing how did they create it if they went from the left to the right if we filled the the winger because I am 100% sure that if you are pressing on one side then everybody has to go and press in that third goal especially if you see and already the left wing it's too late to press it was in the first place it was not in the first place the coach would have told you you have to get in and he know that it's already 15-20 meters late even after getting late you have to get in and that's when the whole right flank was free if the player were matured if you are late first thing is you have to press and second if you are going to be late goal is behind boss goal is at 50 yards but just because poor guys have not played much in the high level then they have pushed and halfway it was so easy for players to counter straight away these are small things if we are fine now all the coaches and the whole world is about playing from the back are we ready for that? are we ready to press high are we pressing together we talk about the striker to play a striker position before he turned into a midfielder it's not easy Bipin is a guy who loves to go on a flank with the space open Bipin is not a guy and behind the defenders Bipin will never play well over there half of the time Bipin is facing his own goal and he don't know where to run look at all the runs and if you talk about Bikram also the way Bikram were running Intujiya Sige Larka was running everywhere but where are we running? there is no doubt that guy has got a guts he can fight but we have to create a place for him either on the wing but not as a striker where Bikram is going to no no no because we need a good number 9 striker where he is going to hold the ball make these people to come up so that's why Isfagh and Dada and everyone is saying that the striker we were missing so yes if you put two kids in front behind to play if you put two kids in front so it was disjointed but yes when we have the ball in the middle third we were trying to play pass and that was the only good thing about yesterday that they were trying to play a pass nothing at the back nothing at the front in the middle they were trying and when we are pressing we still have got a long way the press was not good at all that's why last time in the AFC at least they were pressing together so now if you are not even doing thick with the ball then press thick without the ball do something nice so they were trying to play a bit they were trying their best like Isfagh said to play in Saudi Arabia we know that in Saudi Arabia we are in India one-one in first half second half sixth one so we have seen it's not easy is it imposing is it imposing on the referees as well who come from outside it's very difficult to play in Middle East in Middle East wherever you play World Cup Qualifying we beat UAE in India in Bangalore and Baichung got a red card in first half and we were playing 10 men and they got a penalty so in Middle East it's always difficult with the referee and in history you have seen the problem of the referee when the Japanese or Koreans when they come over there it's always difficult like how many replays you have shown replays maybe once after that you stop showing there are many things it's not easy to play in Middle East no I think one of the reasons why they have kind of reshuffled the form of course the pandemic was a major point in this but another reason why they have reshuffled the Champions League format this time round is to create that little bit of extra rivalry also between East Asia and West Asia and kind of bring that to the fore because only in the next round now will we actually get to see some of the top clubs from the eastern part of the continent play against some of the western clubs and India of course are now although we are kind of central in that sense we are now part of the western side of things so it's going to be all the more tough for us going forward in the Champions League I wanted to ask a follow up question if I may Pandit just basis so that it doesn't go Renity Bhai had a point on imposing on referees and hostile environment off topic we have gone to the University of Delhi we have gone to the AMU Aligarh University Renity Bhai had a different kind of imposing what? the decision is wrong the referee is suddenly watching the rocket is coming the rocket is going down 3-4 rockets have gone the decision is nothing against the home team after that so this is also the imposing of Aligarh look at the history of India how many penalties we have given in the Middle East if you look at all this under 16 or under 19 or under 21 maybe because we don't easily give penalties here maybe because when we play anywhere in Asia and because Europe doesn't play much anywhere in Asia it gives more penalties so now of course things are getting better in India also so referee has to in a place like Manipur I have seen in my academy Manipur's top tournament was playing and if yellow card comes out then the public comes or the official comes to kill it so now how the referee has to go home to the referee recently it has happened recently it has happened in Manipur in the semi-final in the top tournament we have lost in the tie breaker we have given 6 minutes injury times 6 minutes so we have scored in 6 minutes few seconds so the official comes the supporters come the official comes and says how you have played how you have scored and the match was tough for 1 hour the referee was moving the referee has to go home in such a place if we the kids will keep on scoring then the penalty won't be given so when we go outside the penalty falls out so this is a history for 20-30 years there is no security of the referee you have to give a proper security then only if the referee makes me and if the public comes and kills me then my yellow card won't come out so that's the thing they play you have to give security to get better in the whole game things are getting better but in the state level as you have said in the university in the state means they are playing what has happened it was a different zone anybody want to ask something I want to ask a question just to follow up on what Ishfaq was saying that he was not too impressed by the way they played overall for me it seemed the game right after this I was watching the india women vs jordan women they were also they shifted see two matches at night and actually there was a lot of football yesterday because the qualifiers for the women's world cup were also on France were also playing the intensity of this game compared to all the other football that was going on including the women's national team senior national team play and I was speaking to some of the coaching staff of the women's national team and they were talking about how the women are not ideally prepared in terms of conditioning they haven't played for a couple of months they are not in the best shape these are two games that india should have won quite easily against first Egypt and then jordan even though player for player this is a rare scenario in which we are playing against one african team one west asian team and player for player we are a better side but at least in the end they managed to get those 1 nil wins on both fronts I found the intensity levels really low in the game yesterday it's not that the guys were not trying but overall and from both sides I find the pace at which al shabab were trying to control the ball was quite slow the tempo was quite low and the overall intensity of the game just seemed a bit missing I don't know if you guys agree with that I totally agree yesterday's intensity was not there and if you see the players the team game what was the name of the team at the time mohan bagan 5 or 6-0 what was the name that those kind of opposition are class those kind of opposition are in different level if you see good with the ball even in 40-45 years people who are played in highest level will shoot or not but the pace of bikram jit is double faster but it's only thing is as a team how we are playing that maturity has not come yet but according to the pace if you play like this al shabab will not go ahead if you see the game from a coaching perspective when we are playing against higher ranked opposition I am last on the game tactics move on to one final thing if you saw when shabab is attacking stopper will be the full backs are in midfield those who are playing ahead are doing up-down so if you are here if you are loading they have put the full back in that sense we always open like this if you see and open very easily how do you stop it I think that's how you break the teams like support play they are like these teams they do it pretty well like they are big and fast stronger like you have to give them they are by nature only little bit stronger than aesthetically so say sometimes they are not faster but they build us like right back left back they take the advantage of that physical presence but there is nothing in special coaching manual for this you have to defend in numbers also you have to get back if you have seen couple of times al shabab also you see they were caught couple of times napping also behind but immediately you will see in second half they were all in numbers behind they were doing the same thing in defending it's very simple you cannot have in defending anything you know like you don't need skills you just need more numbers behind and then people doing as Renidhi I said I was listening to him he said like when you are late for example what you are supposed to do see these are even when we were playing if coach should not tell me if coach tell me you have to go to press but I know when to press and when to not like Renidhi will know it it's not coach tells us no you have to ever coach coach means when they say it they say it in the different time like when we are behind the ball and then go to press when you are already late and what Renidhi was saying the best thing is the closest way you have to find the closest way to reach the goal and stand there and then defend you cannot go behind him because then he will go to the goal so you have to find the shortest way to reach to the goal and then face the opponent which might be an individual mistake but I have been telling this from long time from our grass root level we have to teach one thing our youngsters which is a game management like game management always very poor in game management Renidhi by can be top coach best coach I can do coaching to players but if they don't have personal football game management I cannot help like sometimes you have seen top players you have seen many top players in ISL also how they invite foul because they know they don't have the pass available what they do is they invite the foul I am just giving an example that is the game management one of the senior players who has really good game management is Sunil big example for youngsters he knows when to put his body or JJ for example was with Sunil when he was they very well knew that what to do and when I used to like JJ one of the reason when Renidhi by was asking I think he was one of the best Indian striker facing opponent's goal yes you know like to hold ball Renidhi by was already telling that we we don't have right now that neither we have that in the national team when some of our players were playing don't forget Mr. Bhutia Mr. Bhutia's 12th pitch I sure what I was telling you we were playing we were playing in I think Syria and we we were playing in Syria and Bhutia by was the lone striker playing and every time whether air or ground ball he will be in a foul or he will flick the ball being as the shortest person again Syria we scored a goal in the Nehruka final Bhutia put a leka rakhawata and then PC laid off for Sunil so those kind of things we were in the stadium sir that kind of striker we have we need somebody who can play by facing our own goal which is like which is difficult as I played my striker also it's not you need to know how to use your body and I think as Deepin every time you saw him going to the wing and I am not blaming him and that is his plus point that is there he flourishes he does well maybe that as we all said that they missed one striker who could have hold up front the balls for them Jaideef sir I am taking it forward I think we have done enough about the game I am talking Mumbai as a whole because when this entire suti group investment came in right 2 years back whenever it came in after that after that if we want to do something in Asia first of all they will do because they have the network they have the funds they have everything in that sense and I am not looking at just one 90 minutes in Saudi Arabia I am looking at the season gone by have they made a mess of things this season and you suppose again next season see no team has the same season every time last time they played well this time they couldn't do it so you cannot blame somebody for making they didn't mess up a thing they started well in the first 6 or 7 games they had 17 points in the ISL and then later they somehow came down but it happens to every team and so when it comes to this season if you talk about this particular season I am not going to blame anyone for this it's not a mess it's one of those bad seasons it happens with every team but overall when you are part of the decision making and you are saying what happened a team which was dominating now that team couldn't do it and couldn't play off you can't control in Asia you are completely looking out of colour so would you not say what have you done they will have to look back and what has happened to this season certainly but you have to divide into 2 sections first section is the domestic section that how it has become what exactly went wrong in the domestic section because they were one of the main contenders for the title or one of the main teams in the tournament why they didn't finish in the first 4 they have to look into it in a different way come to the international section I don't think we if anybody expected more from them than I have my doubts about that see if investment and having funds and everything would have been would have been the ultimate ultimate thing in football then Saudi Arabia or UAE would have won the World Cup many times for that matter it doesn't happen like that football is a different game ball game altogether so again I am saying look at the 2 different way from the international section whatever they have done is alright and whatever they are going to do is alright at least I didn't never expected more from them and I don't expect more from them yes at the domestic level some of things didn't go well for them in the season but it happens with every team in Renédy and Ishfaq has played for big teams they know that there were times when they had terrific team yet they could not do that much at the club level sometimes they have mediocre team but they won everything at the club level so it does happen in football so I don't blame Mumbai management completely because of this and Arjun if you don't mind I will leave we have to head if you don't mind thank you everybody thank you all thank you thank you Renédy Bhai you were involved in the league and I will ask Ishfaq as well later were you surprised with the season they have had because what sir is saying I get it you win but that happens you are winning 2-3 seasons then comes the Lal Thub you have won one season second season you build on it you build on it you have a team which has city football club so you build on it in that sense did they mess it up a bit of course they did if you see the last year the team couldn't play well and the players they have signed they have to spend more time but when the Spanish coach was there we have done really well in Goa they were playing good football and the way they were playing everyone could see that the way they were playing it was difficult to play and I think that same team and the same coach I feel they could do better I really feel they will do better but with the last year performance agar jaana ja ke achak helna I think it's a very difficult one all due respect to the players and the coach it's a very difficult one last year performance like ACM achak karna and that's also in Saudi Arabia very very difficult anyway return of Lovera because that's the way this league works I'm not saying anything about it but if you look at the history of this league chopping and changing is part of it in the seven seasons gone by you're mute you can't hear you I said as is the case with any new league I guess chopping and changing is the way things go till you have some kind of continuity I guess I'm really not sure like Mumbai city were trying to have a longish term medium term vision a couple of seasons ago that kind of fell apart but I think maybe that's a blip I think they'll pick it up again they've got some talented young players coming through like for example this boy Vignesh who plays at left back I think he's a good talent and one that can be built on even last night he didn't have a great game but again a good decent enough young talent to be built on Mahbhi and Chanti and all these boys but I think going back to the evidence that was presented yesterday you look at maybe two players who play very similar role position Benega and Apnagai Jahu and the kind of impact both have on the game whether it's defensively as well as going forward so if that is the fulcrum of your team then it's going to be very difficult you look at a guy like Murtadha Falk who's had probably a couple of really strong solid seasons both scoring goals as well as dominating defensively in India domestically but when the same players go to play against stronger sides in Asia then they become a bit suspicious so it'll be interesting and try and figure out what is going on with Mumbai City this is a program Chhaan been karne gaya mara bhai Bombay Marine Drive because clearly among the empire that the city football group have created Mumbai City are not really anywhere close to the you know top of that that list of club so it'll be interesting to see I mean who they bring in couple of times you know players coming in on loan etc etc that looked really good for the standards of the Indian Super League if more of that can happen on a longer term perhaps they can build something but in any case I don't think that kind of a model city football group model in the long term will have any real benefit for India and Indian football so I'm not sure if I really what was the chatter in the circles I'm not asking you to give me some inside school for anything but here is a Mumbai team which has the backing of one of the biggest groups in world football first season bang they go to it but then you just haven't been able to replicate that form you've let go of your coach who's gone to a club in China part of your group as well but I think Arjun if you see city group that's what they have interacted with them players within they do change coaches and give other coaches chance and let's be little bit like fair with the coach of Mumbai city also it's just he's completely new in the the bureau has been there like from 3-4 seasons already in India they started very well as René Dibais was saying and as Dada was mentioned they started really I think in 8 matches they have 17 points or something like that I think we had by that time we had only 3 points or 4 maybe René Dibais had only one so we were just we were just like struggling you know like they were looking like they will win the league easily you know because the form they were in and after they lost against us and things just you know like sometimes in football the momentum changes in you know like with one match and I remember they lost against us in POTOTA 3-1 and then that downfall started but that doesn't mean they have a bad team believe me they have like really good Indian players with them and now Changte and all that players they have bought and they have a really good bench strength also I think we should not judge them now maybe you know like we are coaches also if coach cannot you know it's very very difficult you know like to repeat the same performance as your previous coach have done as René Dibais already said he was already here he knew the league and he got the players by what he wanted that time when they were not the part of the city group before I think so then this coach you have to see next season maybe next season they will do better and then only you can judge him it's unfair to judge him now or the team and again I tell you as Dada rightly said nobody had like we had like okay miracles do happen they will do something in Champions League we knew the level I think all the Indian teams who are right now going there they have to as René Dibais said for the Indian players like Apuya I think Apuya was really good he showed the maturity level holding the ball and everything and good game management he showed also so I think we should like all treat it like it's a really good experience for them for the for the future it will only benefit as René Dibais also said like maybe in after 2-3 years we will see them if we continue like 6 matches is a huge match many matches sorry 6 matches is a many matches for the players to get a good experience especially the players who are playing in the first level so I think this is a good thing our players will be good for the national team and obviously for the club all of them are really young all of them are really young and if we play 6 matches they will be better okay sir I think this is a good thing we can figure out a calendar also again properly so that you know the benefit of playing these matches during the course of an actual season can come back and give some whether we win or not in Asia at least it can happen back in the domestic season anyway I think we should also call it quits on this show because we have 6 more, 5 more games to talk about so say hi actually 5 more games to talk about it's going to be a good 2 weeks watching your team and what they are doing amongst the best in Asia how do you like it it's going to be awesome today's sound is going to be top quality I have watched a film on dune on amazon you are looking like a new age that you have just come to take a laser gun this is really nice Rennedy bhai has left but Rennedy bhai will be joining us 5 more games, 5 more shows we will do 5 more shows if you are with us we will do more there is a lot to talk about I think we should look at what the women's national team have done in the last couple of games and talk about that ok done thank you guys Rennedy bhai thank you Jairi sir thank you and thank you to all the people who joined us on the chat we now will meet after Mumbai second game thank you so much for 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