 I've been going to jail all my life. It started off at the at the state prisons and we could go there like every weekend So but then other than that just on growing up as a kid without a father in the house You know, I didn't tell when they talked about your father at school. I didn't talk about mines and You know, I just kind of kept that to myself Yeah, we on boss talk one-on-one. Yeah, we gonna talk you want to take it back to when you were growing up young Larry Hoover junior junior Tell us what it was like I'm growing up growing up without a father or should I say without a father in the home In the home and how much did he still play role in your family? Although he was locked up well I'm gonna say he played up. He still played a big role in my life because I'm Between my mother my grandmother. I Was always able to go see my father See, it's a lot of kids that end up in situations like I was in where if the relationship with the mother is not good And she don't deal with On the father and the father's own if she doesn't deal with the own if it's a bad relationship between the father and father's family then on Then that puts a strain on the relationship, but I don't have that problem My mother would take me to see my father. You can only go visit him on these what once a month No, no, he was in state. Okay at that time. I've been going to jail all my life It started off at the at the state prisons. Okay, and we could go there like every weekend So but then other than that just on growing up as a kid without a father in the house You know, I didn't tell when they talked about your father at school. I didn't talk about minds and You know, I just kind of kept that to myself. How did that make you feel? As a child, I mean remember I Imagine it was kind of You know embarrassing I didn't Is it was like it was something I didn't want to bring up Mm-hmm, you know, I by the time I realized I think I got my times mixed up, but By the time that I realized he was in jail. Actually, I know I wasn't telling people that my father was in jail. It's just I Had nothing to say about father's because I heard your mom said something about she's to tell you all that he was at The zoo or something like that. Yeah, he was at the zoo for a while He was at school for a while to pretty soon. It was like He in jail. What about you? Did you play sports anything coming up? Yeah, I played was you any good though? See, that's that's the part right there. Okay So I play baseball now, you know, you thought you was white. Yeah, that was love Plates hey, that's what the money it is Was on there too. He been on here. I gave him a tough time After that, I played basketball No, that's one of the times where I wish my father was there to give me the courage to just go out there You know not letting nobody talk me out my game It's it's easy to say that but my dad was there and he ain't talking nothing out no game You know, I'm talking about keep the other people from talking about what I'm telling you He never came to the game And he wasn't like Give me nothing out here, you know, but from the understanding that we have and it could be from the separation There you go. My father might have came my daddy needed to be locked up Because it do make you think different when you go through stuff versus people who never have had to go through that It make you think deeper about things that you it really make you understand the things that you really should be loving on You understand what I'm saying versus you just out here doing whatever they taking life for granted See, he has to go through these situations through he has to live them throughout That's how I'm about him or have you so At least from where he's at he says that he you know, he wish he could have been there definitely definitely I know I believe him because like I said when you sit down and you have to think about things that's really happening And with a clear mind and understanding Mm-hmm, and you have the time to do that and yeah, of course when you if you had an opportunity now you do it, right? Yeah, I agree with that a hundred percent So just like when you when you were playing basketball and you was you come off the bench No You know you know you get a little billets, you know the ball in your hand Nervous cuz you gotta shoot it cuz you don't know what's gonna happen if you shoot it in miss, you know No, I played in grammar school then when I went to high school. I made the team built your confidence up Then grades came out there it is and I was off the team in eligible my friend His father got on top of him. I didn't know you could get your grades up and get back on the team You just gave up I started hanging on Saturday Night Street from there. I wasn't trying to play basketball In the night street, you know You know being that you came up in a town where the GD's and the final all these people that and you were connected If you wanted to be you had to be your name said it all You wouldn't maneuvering out there And not having to deal with that or how did you how did you when you step out and and those opportunities to present that? Presented themselves to you. How did you avoid them? I did you avoid? Did you take him here at all? All right early on in life. I was Aspiring to be what I saw. Yeah, you know, were you don't oldest child? No, you're not. No, I had two older brothers, right? So I have a brother From my father and then my mother had a son, but my oldest brother actually got to live with my father and my Brother up under him. I think he he got to be around him, but he was pretty much kind of young So I don't know how much he actually remembers. Okay, but yeah, so I Was young when I caught myself trying to step out my best friend and I'll I just say that on He gave his life to save my life. Well, I did I was there But when he got killed that's when I said no, I don't want to be Seventeen right? I think I heard you say Hmm. He was about I know I was like round 16. He was maybe 18 somewhere in there Yeah, and and he got shot gun violence Yeah, he got shot he got shot over simply on some guys roll pass and you know, it's disrespectful You know, you see what all the young guys do they drop the Everybody drops the forks on the videos because they just have a real something against Gds or what have you? So that's what happened a guy dropped the forks and then he dropped the five and the guy Parked and got out of this car And you know, he went to the trunk with my buddy. He was too tough to Lead the situation He got a lucky shot and shot him in the heart from across the street with like a 25 Ah, dang. Yeah, man But you know, sorry to say but they say, you know, everything happens for a reason because that didn't happen. You still be Yeah, I don't know what my life wouldn't win at that point. Right. Yeah. I mean you you got to understand, man It's You know, things happen, man. I lost my best friend mom all type of stuff happened, you know Within months, you know, um It just I think that's the way he does get your attention You know the man the big man he gets your attention by letting you go through certain things and experience certain things And it pulls you to a certain place, you know And also that you know, that made my father look at things a little different with trying to make sure I was Doing the right things You know, it made him worry about me when he's seeing somebody that was That close to me at that age plus my father. He had met my father. So, okay. Yeah So did any of your siblings? Fall in that situation Ended up like on the street or anything like that. Let's just say on the streets dealing with the with games Yes with games and situations. Oh I'm gonna say my older brother was more You know, he kind of grew up more towards the streets. Okay, you know No, because the reason why I was asking I want to ask you um If you had any older siblings and stuff like that because I know the older siblings Especially when the father isn't there to normally try to step into that role like, you know, like I'm dad I'm gonna look up for you. I'm gonna make sure you're not going to be doing this So for it Well, my my other brother, he didn't he didn't live with me. So He wasn't he wasn't there like that. So my my mother's son Then my father's other son But both my brother's my middle brother didn't live with me. Okay, my older brother did but my middle brother who was kind of So that was the one that was the that was the wild one. He was he was representing Oh, okay, you know, but he wasn't there to um To influence you Well, yeah to tell me Yeah, we on boss talk one on one one on one. Yeah, we gonna talk