 To better support my work, the field of historic preservation could evolve more ephemeral programming that allows for art installations and events that are a delicate touch on site, but it means to actually have more conversations, additions to narratives and even revealing of what's actually happening at a location. I work for a private foundation and we invest in a lot of organizations that are in neighborhoods and in older buildings and many of them need older buildings. And these organizations provide the basis for community in these neighborhoods. There are arts organizations, arts at organizations that help kids and help them grow and understand what's going on in these communities. And there are also many other organizations, healthcare organizations that are the anchors in these neighborhoods with old buildings. Historic preservation is largely about a social good, setting aside a property as a touchstone of shared stories. And my business is a yield on capital risk oriented manufacturing business, so how do we find common ground setting aside for social value and meeting our yield on cost requirements. There are ways as we're discovering in Monterey there's a shared use model where we can put commercial uses back into historic property without compromising its integrity, takes work with the preservation community to get there, but there is a way to do that. Not all properties will fall into that, not all historic properties would be suitable for that sort of an arrangement, but for those that are perhaps there's a financial preservation that can be instilled for all of our benefit.