 Alright, applying science for practical purposes is what technology is all about, creating items to perform tasks, solve problems, make life easier or perhaps more interesting. Scientists who work in engineering and technology are always looking for ways to make life better. And showing appreciation for advances in technology is what National Technology Day is all about. I mean these guys, they have made life so easy for everybody, honestly. It's getting easier. I'm telling you, so I don't even know what would have happened without technology, right? Everything you want to do nowadays, you don't even need to ask anybody any question. Like you literally can just go on one device or the other, get the information that you need and just get things done. I think technology is good. And it's so sad that, especially me, I will not talk about other countries. This is our country. We are not making technology a must from toddler, right? So my sister, she just recently moved to the US and her children are in year one as they were resuming brand new laptops, different things. They are introducing them to the gadgets and all of that. So when they are doing their work, they are online, they are doing different things. But you see, I mean, you get people here up till now in university, 400 levels, studying computer science. If I let's leave the other subjects. You are talking about university because they are in jobs. Oh, it's even worse. But, you know, your problems in this country are different. People who can't eat one square a day, not three, one. So when you start to try to stretch it to the perspective of technology, then it's a bit of a... I like the fact that we understand the importance of it. We, at least in embracing digital and embracing the internet and embracing social media. No matter what it is today, the entertainment industry has taken that sort of YouTube into the consciousness, all those platforms, the digital platforms, into the consciousness of people. So we have a long way to go, but then we've got so many problems. So trying to sort of... I mean, people can't even go to school. We don't have enough schools. So the basic even being able to read A to Z to count one to a hundred is still a problem. But you know, Oti, it is costing us so much more. The lack of education. I'm not even saying. I'm just trying to say that before you even go as far as what the lack of technology is costing us, talk about what the lack of education is costing you. I mean, so that's what I'm saying. That there's a plethora of problems that come way before we even get to the thought of technology as a... So the fact is, have we embraced it in ways that have changed the lives of every Nigerian? I mean, the impact of the telcos of that sort of GSM technology, the impact of data and digital on the banking sector. So Nigerians are benefiting from technology. Now, if you come at it from the angle of education and where we're going, that's a very slow movement. But has technology changed our lives in Nigeria? Absolutely. But we only choose certain sectors for technology to impact on? It's not about choice. It's an evolution. So, okay, let me take my story because I know where I'm going with this. If they can pull out that video of the Edo State Deputy Governor, right? He was calling out 18, I think it was 18 local governments, for just bringing an IGR of three millionaire. If they can pull out that video, please. Let's watch it then. I'll tie it with this technology. Between now and end of May, I will probably do a letter for Governor to suck people before sucking, they should get FCC to check your books. True, get the FCC to check all your books and you'll be fired. Because it can't continue. We can't continue like this. Get FCC to investigate all of you, check all your books. After FCC have checked with people, suck all of you. Because 18 local government, three million in a month as revenue. Because what I wanted to draw out there, he said he would get FCC to check their books. You understand? Get them arrested, right? And he was complaining that 18 local governments bring an IGR, that how can 18 local governments produce an IGR of three million? It is ridiculous. So, we sat here last week with Kole Laval. We were talking about our public service. So, again, I like, I call these things sound bites, right? There is a process. You don't wait until the end of the year to measure performance. You manage performance, you set targets. People know what they're doing, their milestones, their checkpoints, whether it's monthly, whether it's quarterly. So when I hear things like this, I'm like, yeah, so you came to tell us now. You failed. So, that's where I'm going, right? For you, for your refusal. Just imagine the nonsense that happened on Lekie Expressway. Do you know that it can be digitalized? You can actually use technology to collect these levies from these bosses. They refuse to do that because that is also an avenue to continue to drain the system. You don't want to capture. That is the truth, Uti. So, I agree with you. Yes and no. The technology is there. The ability to get an E-tag is easy or it was easy in the time. That's why I said that. I think that you're like 20 steps ahead. There is a change. Yes, those gaps exist in the system. I don't think of them as trying to avoid the use of technology. I think that there's a lack of imagination in the way we run these companies, in the places where we can actually generate revenue that we are not. These 18 local governments, they don't need technology to generate more than 3 million. What they need is to actually do their jobs with some integrity, some clarity and some direction. Let me tell you something. They generate much more than that. They are only declaring 3 million. That's why you say that they need to go and change their place. You are still coming back to my point. You are looking at technology as a solution. It is one solution. People were running banks before technology came in. Absolutely. That's what I'm saying. Let me take Mary's story. I was actually holding on so that you can calm down before you talk. Go ahead. I have a video actually. Oh okay. Today is the day of the video. Dancing Govno. That's Senator Adelike, right? Yes. Govno. Oh sorry, Govno. Govno Adelike said to retire Cristiano Ronaldo, others as he displays his impressive football dexterity. Correct. Correct. Correct. If he does nothing else, he is an editorial factor. He is amazing. I imagine how happy people are around him. He has always been entertaining people. There is something that is interesting that is happening in ocean states. The discovery of gold. They have under his 100 days, I think, or be 150 days in office, they have also celebrated the fact that barely how many days in office they have been able to identify ocean state as a hope for gold. And now they want to legally, I think there have been a lot of illegal transactions happening in that gold mining sector. So legally now he is bringing it forward to change the idea of the state. So give it to him, he might be a dancing person. But you see, one thing I think I like about his personality is the people around him. He has very, very great minds around him. His brothers, his nephews. So I believe that with, and I think again from what I can see, he is someone that is open to great ideas. David is already talking about taking the timeless concert to ocean state. That would bring revenue to the state. I mean there are so many things that can happen if you are actually open to so many things. But I don't want to enter that with his argument. So let me take your story. I was going to say thank you for buttressing my voice. But okay. I know. Okay, so my story, I mean, I try to look for positives. I don't know that's when things like our topic of today happens. It's very difficult to hold on to positives. But I take it where I can find it. So my headline says, yes, he's arrested Salimaman, ex-power minister over 22 billion Naira fraud. So this is the former minister of power who has then been arrested. So he was the minister of power between 2019 and 2021. He was arrested in the early hours of yesterday. He's accused of conspiring with ministry staff in charge of the accounts of the Zungiru and Mambila hydroelectric power projects to divert 22 billion and share it amongst themselves. There are a lot of problems in the public sector. I mean, I keep seeing it that any president that's coming into Nigeria that doesn't have, for me, there are a few things that I measure you on. I don't care for all these stories. I'm going to build a million houses. I'm going to employ a million young people. No, I just want to know how you're going to address the public sector. Love how, like I said before, for my guest, Kaleila, I said this is the welfare system of Nigeria. How you are going to address it, how you're going to make it more efficient, how you're going to make it more cost effective. Those are the things that I'm looking for. Another thing I want to add to your measurement, right? The part of you giving all these lofty ideas about what you want to do in governance, but there's also that willpower, right? You see, that's one thing you must give to Gov Noam Bodhi. Because he was in the civil service, he understood how those leakage issues used to happen. I think that was his biggest, you know, problem. Success. Yes, it was the biggest grouse they had with him. Because he, when he came in as governor, he was able to lock, you know, maybe he went to the extreme, but he was able to block all those leakages, right? You can't be complaining that you are, what's it called, you are broke, you are this, and right before your nose, something of this magnitude is happening. Then what exactly are we talking about here? But I mean, if you look at it, when it comes to the power sector, we've had many guests on this show talk about it, and it's almost damned when you hear it. But the truth of it is, we have facilities in this country that have staff, that aren't generating anything, nothing, and they are bad employees. Let's come back to that, because we have plenty things to say about this $800 million. Where's the dough? Where don't know. We'll take a break, stay with us.