 Hello, good evening and welcome to our second masterclass of this year's trade-wide Gibraltar chess festival And here with me the lovely Valentina Guernina Valentina. Thank you for coming on the show Yeah, tell us about just quickly before you start you're going to show us a game from a couple of years ago The game is from I did the game of us in last last year last year Okay, just before that tell us about your tournament in Gibraltar so far. How many points do you have I? Have three out of four right and my I had the second Round such nice game is like a morning. Tell us about that game a little bit Nearly eight hours, I think you played it's about it was about eight hours And I've never played such long game in my life. I think yeah, it was such intensive and okay He's too strong and all the time he's just found some way to continue his advantage. So it was really nice Yeah, so even though you lost you're still happy with yeah with the game Let's say with yeah, it was my dream to play as much as I can get So grandmasters such as strong players So I was so happy before the game and for sure it doesn't change the results And what about your game today? I won today and Today and Last yesterday I played so quick after he got I just kind of changed You know just because it was too long and now I just played about for two hours, right? Yeah, I hope tomorrow I will Get some so also so strong and then play a bit slow. Yes Okay, great. So we're gonna look at one of your games from last year Against Anna Ushenina. Yes, it was in Kreta. It was a European championship So I also important match against Ukraine and All right, so so Let's start. This is the European women's championship team championship. Yes. Yes, and we got gold medal So I Played in four so I just started Recently to play your for before I played before so it's something new for me so We play Rosalina And I always afraid because it's new I was afraid that I will forget some variations so it also happened So this is all theory Yeah I Will show the critical moment, of course. That's okay. So it's all some kind of theory This is your preparation for the game. Do you remember? Yes, and this was a critical move. So I played before and I forgot my variation already Okay, it's a nine move, but it's always happened when you play something new so I played before and She takes so actually it's also some Theory But for me, it's like I had some ideas what I was watching with coach, but okay with your catch. It is my coach. Yeah and Okay, suddenly I just forgot I have a coach who helped me yes, but it's a secret. Is it really a secret? Yeah, it's really a secret So maybe when I Will be in a woman world championship. I will tell Interesting yeah But in Russia team we have a free coach So it's super strong players So super strong coach, so it's really nice to have them in team So and it all that I played very well this game, so that's why I wanted to show this yes So it was also some Critical moment here Tell us why it's critical way what you have For me it was completely new, you know, just I didn't have much experience before this so Now I had H6 Okay, thanks, I will notice Yeah So for me, it's completely new, you know, even now I just Fallen this game and I need to remember remind me myself what I was thinking Okay, and But also if I played nature free how you will make a castle The six in this time. Yeah Maybe I will make the same as In in the game. Yeah, just to take Some kind of Because she played the six I took she took and after About So that's the difference so I play each six No, it was some kind of like in the game cause she played also H5 and After the game guys told me that it's some kind of theory and I told them okay, thanks So once you played D6, could you have played Bishop H6 straight away? Instead of taking in this one. Yeah, but Let me think what I didn't like Maybe just a castle We'll just take some here Yeah, but yes Yeah, but if I will have this Bishop just like like this what it's not enough compensation interesting But maybe not enough compensation. I don't know Seems seems seems not we have a strong member of the audience tonight. Yeah Yeah, okay I also had some ideas here Mmm If I go like this Queen H3, okay. Yeah, I you can make a castle, right? It may be some to jump somewhere If I take I don't know but it's looking interesting. Ah Like this and it's over Okay, not interesting So but some some H3 looks a bit strange Some kind of idea a gate if just to take take And I don't know just to develop just like that and to put also Looks like a court Yeah Let's see the game anyway because otherwise we'll be taking too many times I don't I don't tell that I got some advantage here. It was totally equal but My idea just was To get some interesting position, right? So you surprised with one e4 probably she wasn't expecting I played some games already. So she expected But maybe I don't know maybe also forgot something because before every game you have to repeat a lot of variations And after it's you can forget about some some some of them so For me it's all the time But here she will spend it a lot of time so maybe she just was like Thinking what should prepare it. I don't know And what my idea was to to have some difficult position and with some calculation as I like Yes, yes Yes, that's true so So she paid each five. Yes, and I have this my Commentary to the game. I was analyzing this so I will it so it was also possible to play what the what okay, what I was calculated in the game so like this and I I thought if I play Queen h6 Something something like this and also the Nigel idea Also not so clear But if I play night e4 just okay. I was calculated this and wasn't just give you anything Yeah, it's like I can be Not good for for black to defend it I have some clear ideas For sure, I will come back and you know just me my bishop will yes take some squares. Yes So Yeah, so I calculated before she moved so my idea was also to Maybe to change these bishops, I don't know just to to look for the king It looks quite nice for you Yeah, but it's yes, it's so equal but still still interesting to play so And this is an interesting move, but it's also some It's not the best move and she can Get maybe better position, but okay. It was interesting to play and She had less times on me so Shatuk she's right to take that's the right move to take yes Because if you just make a castle, you know, just I also Yes, I can protect also just to continue Be sure before just just to change also was my idea So she needs to take I guess otherwise Maybe instead of bishop d2 you could have played would be one you could have played slower Yeah, I thought about it, but it can be just a bit slow, you know Make a castle bishop d2 and offshore just without one tempo. So I've heard it's more interesting to You'll start is to sacrifice in yeah, exactly. Yeah, I like to sacrifice pieces and To calculate and to have so complicated positions It's more interesting But most of classes to sacrifice things yeah, and I think Women chess is more interesting than man So we are not so focused in some computer variations, so it just make a lot of create, you know Just like women are more creative than men. Yeah, some human playing You know, I prefer to play this woman, you know, just it's more more fun Oh So but okay, it's some at least some action You know cause I was following this Grand series and it was so boring because they you know, just like to show each other variations again just to make a draw, you know and One guy who Saved my mood. It was Rapport because he answered it because he played you know unboring So it was like like a woman That's a good question Okay, but you too good move Great. So and yes, she needs to take in my opinion and This was an interesting move, but as you can see it's some kind of mistake cause If you analyze I mean with computer yes, you can understand but okay, maybe better was To play like this and to take some I Difficult position Yeah, because black cannot make a castle because it's hanging so I don't know if black plays c5. Is there something happening? Sacrifice. Yeah, I can maybe just a change, you know and after to jump on the fight with my night. I Don't know. It's quite interesting position Okay, maybe they also can make a castle enough to take this night. So I played some Uninteresting move even it's not the best move, but okay So she also spent a lot of time here because it's really difficult position and a lot of variation to calculate So she also played to not the best move. It was She needs to make a castle Right. Yeah Planning, what would you planning? Yeah, I also was calculated g4 cause For yeah, because of this but it doesn't work. It seems yes cause Enough info for white So she needs to make this castle, but she was afraid I guess such possibility So so what should you play if she castles do you think I Don't know Maybe also like this was my idea to continue some a bit push, I don't know pawn down But still interesting Yeah She thought that it's more more safe Okay, and I played Be sure before so now I'm attacking on seven if you make a castle so and I still want to I don't know a lot of I can jump on the six in some case I don't know some some of my crazy idea was to to jump on g5 with some night And also just to you know just to to make a free this line to attack in a seven So I had a lot of ideas So she played a five Bishop and three so I'm just waiting Yeah, and she played okay seven because she cannot still cannot make a castle So as it was also Funny funny position because I also was calculated this move so I played Nice G5 but also yes, it was this move was so interesting, but it was hard to calculate So so it but it's going to be very funny Yeah Very funny position It's so big advantage for I think serious. Yeah cause Bishop g7 also was some kind of mistake So But it was too hard to understand during the game Does she have to take on a d6? Yeah, otherwise, you know just She cannot go on somewhere da Landia I guess Okay, so I know cause you know just like no, this is also yes if you want to As example, I do not just to take maybe If I'm not wrong if you take this I will take here in a few just take on just seven It's also night at six some kind of example So but it was so hard so I decided I Bishop d6 is the right move. I'm sorry. Yes. What's the correct move? So I was calculated this but when you play for team and it's also important match I know you and you play also right you have to be very solid Sorry Yeah But it was just a pony, you know, but to give us If I played for myself, I would Immediately play Right, so you play quite differently when you're playing for the Russian Okay girls wouldn't Save this for sure, but when I played for my team I played I tried to play solid So not like in my games, but as you can see it doesn't hurt much Because girls told me the opinion that okay They when they came to see my board was going on there. They just don't calculate don't do anything Just to wait for the end, you know, because it's really hard to Understand what's going on my board sometimes So they they just got used to my style But you've won several gold medals with the Russian women's team in the Olympias and things like that. Yeah so but I agree with them that In to have in team such a player like me. It's a bit Complicated, I think Okay, some kind of nervous Okay, what to do? So you paid 95. Yes So I should make a castle and I had some idea also to take to take and to play 95 because you know, I want to take on the six and if you just go like this, okay, it's hanging so So I had this but she needs to play this Bishop a five because you can see you can see this variation following this Update, yeah so It's also unclear But when you're playing, you know, just so hard to understand what's going on Even now I cannot understand. What is this last move? Ad7. What is this? Yes? Because you cannot You cannot do something It's like if you want to take What's going on to happen? Maybe just to take Something like this because it's also hanging and also you don't have I don't know how to say it in English Yeah, the square is the scape square. Yeah, yes, because I want to play maybe you do one or something like that So but these were lines that you saw this is computer analysis. Yeah, it's gonna be just Yes, after the game. So I didn't see so I just During the game and this was that okay your bishop at five will I will take on the seven Also, I was calculating maybe your day it's something like that and after I just Okay, at some point I just stopped because as a human I cannot understand all variations So I just need to put some Some evaluation is at the end of my variations. So I decided here. It's I'm quite okay, and it's your problem Yeah, you got your phone back. Yeah, and now it's her problems. She needs to calculate more. So it was my idea And she had so last time so she played like this She played would be seven. Yes, it'll be seven and I played H3 as I said before that I wanted to that it's Because I wanted to take on the seven in some point. So I need to protect my first line. So I Made this move. Yeah, it's like a stone move. I really enjoyed my myself in during the game Probably your team members very happy when you played H3. Yeah, because you know It was also so idea if I just take some kind take here for example, it's also like If I remember yes, because it's everything is hanging I cannot take if like this She will take and I will lose on the one. So that's what's my idea if I have this it's working So It's like prophylactic. Yeah. Yeah, I was reading a lot of books of Mark Doretsky, right? Was your coach to what it's yes Some some days I was working with him and he was a great person. Yeah, and At once he was working as our team woman team. So it's was big pity. Yeah, you know from him. Yeah, I think Yeah, especially when I was young I was reading with my brother his books. So your brother places. Yeah. Yeah, how strong is he? He was a candidate and he played such With such opponents like Tomaszewski. All right. Yeah, so how strong is he today? He stopped to play in tournaments, but he now is teaching kids how to play chess. Yeah So Does he follow you when you play Tomaszewski brought is he following your games online and say this your brother? But you know he was all the time as my mom told that it's too nervous to watch it So I need some kind of hot pills to make it and so and stress, you know watch your games Yeah, to watch my games So sometimes he just doesn't want just to see the end of the river down so I was so H3 your brother was probably very happy when you played that move. Yeah, so I was I was really proud of myself as I remember So But now we should got a lot of trouble this time so and Now I even cannot explain myself now what was going on. I just was so focused on during the game And here I just started to blind to blunder You could take easily just to take and to take on the seven and it's Seems to swing in for light and after the game coach. So ask me Why I didn't play that and I didn't have transfer at all. Okay. I don't know just To make maybe everything more complicated so And she played C5, but the better move was oh you played G4. Yes You know sometimes especially when I'm playing for the team, I have to sit on my hands just not to to play some Some radical smoke like that Yeah, but it's really hard for me, you know, just because my style is like that Okay, I I really don't know why I didn't take it. So I just played G4 just to To continue Okay bishop f6 and it was unclear, but with this last time you cannot calculate so she played C5 and Again could take and I I don't know why I didn't take it. So now it's so clear that it's Advantage, I don't know. Okay. I just wanted to make a mate. I guess after G4 if she played bishop f6 What was I know? I it wasn't clear. I don't know what was happening, but Instead of feeling I just make made it so complicated It's nonsense The idea No, I was pretending like okay like it was his style some prophylactic, you know, like I can also play some positional Yeah, something you learn from Dvovoretsky Yeah, you got my secret If you play Rook takes a six, let's have a look at me with the audience Yeah It looks you supposed to Yeah Even me wouldn't play Yes G4 now, but yeah, that's also Yeah So, okay. Yeah, I should play it C5 And I took here Okay, yeah bishop f5 and I also Have commentary myself. Okay. I played hf6 and it's written that Okay, I my attack it's over Yeah, and I now I can get worse Yes but okay It was my mistake not to take on a six. Yes, and Okay, but she had I don't remember exactly How much she had but maybe about one minute. Yes, and it's 125 moves. So I was also lucky by that so Like this. I also have some ideas, you know, just maybe Just to take somewhere on C5 and she got this mistake final mistake because if she played you she just take take and I played Queen f6 it's also It's okay for black It's completely okay for black Do you think you would have moves like G4 you paid because she was in bad time trouble that was yeah, maybe Yeah, something that Yeah, maybe maybe that's why so but she Got a mistake but you also when I was calculating for her I also wanted to play like this because It's not so clear what you're going to do Because you also maybe want to you not to block the rook on D5 But okay, I just take Take Just to take here. It's so weak squares. So and girls after the game ask me why you will see what I mean why I didn't put Made but I was so so nervous Yeah, no, I I saw it for sure, but I wanted to be sure that You will see what I mean is the check here But it's all Most for Black because I know a lot of characters and yes now my pawn is so strong. So one mistake and so So I just play like this And it was also made Which one Let me think 96 I took yes, it was 96 yes Yes, and just to make a mate. Yeah, but I would have played out of it. Yeah, but I was I wanted to be sure you know Just okay, it was enough No, it was Enough so I decided, you know Yeah, but you know Yeah Pony cause Queen Nitro short has something to show us. Come on. Let's have a look. What happens if you pick it which one? Yeah, yes, this one, but it's hanging Okay Yeah, yeah, yeah, but this is more complicated, you know No, I just wanted to take on it, you know, just to be sure and after I can also make a mate Yeah So this was a massacre at the end So Okay, it's most of the time. It's my style So I really like to make positions so complicated. Is she a player you have a very good score against you paid a lot under Is she someone that you normally beats? You played her many times Not so many. I think not in classic mainly But coming into such bad time trouble this yeah, yeah, but I also made some you know Just to make it complicated that she needs to calculate That's why she spent a lot of time And how did the mask go so Russia won the match. Did you win the match? Yeah, it was Important cause other girls made a draw. So it was important game. So I was so happy, right? Yeah, and that was and then you won the gold medals in the competition. Yeah Okay, I was on the fourth board and I got a second medal and now girls You've won I think Valentina three times if you've been Russian women's champions, all right. Yeah three times How does it feel to? Feels great, right? Yes. It was great. Yeah, but my last Russian championship are not so good. I finish like About six. Yes, but it's it's really hard, you know, because Russian girls are so strong. Yes It's really This event is the most difficult event in the year. What about you brought it's also very difficult. Yeah, I mean Yeah, no, I like Gibraltar so much so Paints to invite me. That's against you. What is your fourth visit here? Yeah, it's my first. Yeah, okay Who has any questions anyone in the audience have a question for Valentina about that game or indeed about anything else, no Yeah, yeah, who would like to ask Valentina someone in our audience? They're very shy I like both but you know in a team competition you have to be it's more stress because you have to be more confident, you know, I mean more How to say it? Okay, not not like my style Yeah Yes Yeah Yeah, because in my individual tournaments I can do whatever I want and I can create something new that I like But in team you have to be very careful, you know, because our coach also streets But I really love to play in my team and especially when we win some medals So you're obviously a full-time professional chess player Yeah, you know you make your living from chair. Yeah. Yeah, what are your ambitions apart from the next moment winning and doing well Do you have any special goals or as a Every woman I think I want to to win World championship, right? Yes, and every year I'm trying to do my best to To learn something new some openings also have a lot of trainings during the year so and Soon it will be in Huntersman's East, right? So I also working for it. For example when you train Do you have to finance that yourself or is it paid for by your federation? How does that work? We have coaching for example. It depends. So we have plus it's three camp about twice a year before some Event like Olympiad or European special training which is yes, it's all this old team But if you want to make an individual camp, you have to pay yourself sometimes federation pay for one one or two your Individual camp. Yeah, but they're helping us so much And you got some money to improve yourself also, it's also nice So I think Supported by the federation. Yeah, I think yes, I think we are the best. I mean who's got such a Strong support because in our team we have also doctor and massages No people asked me Often asked me, okay, you see you get a medal because you have such support No, before we got a medal and after we got such support Yeah, so this team we just got one gold medal and we didn't have any So I mean didn't get massages and so on and after we need to to show Federation again, then we just won something and Okay, finally they have All right, you can have a massage in the hotel here. They have someone to do that for you No, it's better to get to from our masters, you know, yeah, especially from from Russian team Okay, next question in the audience Who would have a question from Valentina? Yes Like there's about 35 women in history who have the full grandmaster title and none of them have ever died No woman with the grandmaster title the full grandma has ever died according to my kid It's true Are you going to live forever, would you like to live forever? Yeah, why not? Okay, I've got a question. Nigel has a question. Not a shot. Okay. Let's see Support you get from your Federation the Russian Federation elections coming up soon in early February, who would you like to win? I know for sure I will I will support for mr. Filatov When he came to our president we got this massage I So Kyrsten may no longer be the president of your yeah, but okay It's not I'm not sure if it's right Questions from here. Okay. I will pretend like I'm just blonde Russian girl, you know Okay, but you support yes, I support It's all the time nice to speak he was also supporting me during London yes There and talking a lot, you know, he was supporting me told me, okay No, Valentina, you have to win you have to show this man Yes, and that was it was really great. So it's also interesting to speak with him cause he was also studying Chess with the girlfriend with boys In means so he's well-educated in chess. So it's really interesting All right, what are your plans for the rest of the year? I mean we just started 2018 but after this tournaments After this tournament, I will have my birthday first your birthday. Yeah, when is that it's it and for February Election will be at the third Yeah I hope so Yeah, and what about your chess plans for this year? I Don't know yet. We'll have a training camp soon this team. So I'm so excited because it's it's really Interesting all the time there's goals this coach and you all the time get something new and Because soon will be a limit in September impact to me. Yes, so we will prepare a lot When you're not playing chess or studying chess or a training camps, what do you do with your your time? I mean you have other hobbies and interests and things that you'd like to do Then I have a free time. I like to meet my friends because Normally, I don't have so many times to visit them and I was like To to go to cinema, you know, just to sit in cafe with my friends and just to talk You said to me we had dinner you said me that you started having singing lessons Okay, it was I Always all the time I have some Great great ideas, you know to create myself to learn something new before before I was going to math to have math lessons because my In math, I'm completely out, you know, yes and But my father he is a teacher of high math So I'm usually for chess player to be poor at maths Yeah, but for me, it's like I cannot understand anything So I just decided that I want to understand something because with my maybe that's why you blunt the pawns, you know Because my brother with my father it was always difficult because okay He's in such a big level so he can he couldn't explain me everything So it was my first idea and after yes, as you mentioned, I went to the senior singer Lesson and I just wanted to start something new, you know, just to make it to maybe to go to karaoke with friends but after our Teacher she made some mini concert and I forgot the text of My son and after you know, just it was such a shame, you know I was standing in some sand and just forgot everything and then I decided it's better to forget some variation during my game. So I just Decided I will continue chess Okay in karaoke, I can see But okay, I just it was just I wanted to try Yeah, so I decided to okay to play chess is not so bad Any other questions Yes You showed us a game that had a lot of like really sharp aggressive moves in it, so which I just did not expect at all My question is like you're playing a high-level tournament Do you not get nervous for the position like that because for you know for most of us? I guess, you know, we're you know, we're not playing at high level and if we lose a game It doesn't really matter, but I guess if you lose a game Maybe it does matter, you know, if you have a position, which is very sharp like that You've sacrificed a piece of that but does that does that not make you nervous or do you just like doesn't make you nervous? It depends. It depends. You have good nerves. You have good nerves Yeah, I guess so if you want to play such a game, so okay, but with these games you can also lost it You know just so easily but it it depends if I play In team I got so nervous because okay, it's difficult also and as Nigel Told me that I have to be responsible for my moves also but if I play individually also depends if it's like The highest tournament like a world championship for sure I got so nervous But if it just like okay here, it's also nervous, but it's also like I Get some training from such tournament. So for me, it's like a training. So for me and just like I'm not going to say that I'm relaxed here But I enjoy so much. So I just wanted to learn something new so I'm not going to To shake my hand to shaking but I mean when you played Hikaru here Did you feel how did you feel during that game? Were you stressed? Were you excited? No, I wasn't stressed, you know because I always thought that it will be a great experience for me But I was really happy to see how he was nervous He was nervous. Yeah, he was nervous But he needs to win for sure when you play with You know he needs to To win and also he was he always thought that he's going to win But after you just continue to defend and after he understood that it's not so easy and As you know that it looks about almost And you could sense or you could feel his nervous. Yeah, he just put in Take off his jacket all the time, you know, it was so funny to see it because I was completely and not not so Calm but I wasn't nervous for me. It was like I always told it was like Training so for me it was Cool, and I really enjoyed this game even if it was too long But you know just to meet Well, I can meet such a star. Exactly. I mean how many times have you played someone like Hikaru? Yeah, that's my first time so I Also waiting for other super strong Grandmasters that I can play, you know just to To also see to check myself. How is my level? You know what I can do Normally in Gibraltar, I think last time you came equal second in the women's for the women's prize I mean you normally do quite well here, don't you in Gibraltar in this event? first time I got fourth woman prize and next year I didn't mean anything and Last year yes, I shared with a lot of girls second So it was how do you feel when you see the other girls here? I mean you're doing well, but the other girls With three out of three or two and a half out of three you see Antoinette to be it's You happy for them or this yeah, I'm really happy for them, you know, and I was so Thanks for the question for sure. I was so happy for Our world championship Who we find because yeah, she won This bill tournament in bill I was so happy for her. You know just to show man, you know Yeah, and okay, we also can play strong, of course. Yeah, I was so so happy For native so you support other other girls. Yeah, that's for sure Okay, yeah Do we have any more questions for Valentina? I don't know but it depends what they mean Yeah, for sure they We have some Here I prefer for sure to play against men because yes, I can Train a lot and you know this girls I can meet in some other tournaments, but Here it's my luck, you know just to meet some some super master. Yeah, and But yeah, I agree that for them it's more difficult cause they need to win Especially yes, when they want to get some price And what do you think about when we have this somebody asked me this about women only tournaments not just about championship But but just in general you think that there's no reason for them to stop women only tournaments Because some people say well women and men they should all be like here everyone should be playing together And that they shouldn't be this division. Yeah, I also read this interview by Levon Aranyan who told that we need to play all together but For for me Mentor man means that I can train but I also need to earn money So for me it means that I need to play you with girls, right? That's a good point. Yeah, so if I only play In men tournament, I cannot get enough money So maybe if I find some sponsor, you know, I will who will pay for me. I will play only in men tournament Okay, do you have any pupils do you teach children? Do you have any? No, not yet, but I really like kids and maybe in future when I will start my career I will teach kids how to play chess. Okay All right Any final questions from our audience or online, I didn't know anyone asking questions online It's a comment really rather than the question I mean it's related to to Brian's question on I just want to say that, you know, because I'm a dinosaur and In my daddy actually when I began playing chess, there were hardly any women playing. It was actually very very rare so Psychologically, it was much much harder than whereas nowadays You know, women players all the time Not as frequently as men players, but it's there is absolutely nothing unusual about it. So once upon a time it really was difficult it was For a male player, you know, I don't know if people can hear at home now, but I'll just summarize that There's a natural shortage saying then for benefit of listening that when you were as a young man Now you're starting your career and for many years probably that it was very very rare to come across a woman in a tournament to play And that was quite hard now just psychologically Yeah, whereas now it's not unusual by any means certainly not here, but also in Yeah, I like also when people ask me what is the difference between men and women chess I think it's also Depends of time control What's here? It's for women as I told you before for women That's really hard to play what you need to see to all the time, you know, just For many hours to concentrate and normally, you know, women just think about other things, you know, and And of course, we are not looking so much in the computer variation. But yeah, I'm agree and nowadays it's more But it's actually so you think it's a longer time control like here is favours men more than women. Yeah Yes, because for me, for example, it's really difficult to play because okay, I play really I like to play fast but when you go to okay That's okay after first control after second control of 50 minutes again, you know, just and after 15 minutes It's too one as you can see in my game is he got off But you enjoy rapid chess you enjoy blitz, yeah, you didn't play last night in the team before Just like right you have to play online and but I came to see how Because once we played on the same team Yeah, it was it was a lot of fun and I really like to play your more Rapid and blitz than classic because you know, you can get this adrenaline much faster Because in classical it takes about four or five hours, you know, just to take your adrenaline But they are here and just so fast So I really like this when you have a hand shaking, you know, just Norweils and so on and I really love it. You played in riots and you played in Saudi. Yeah. Yeah, you enjoyed that. Yeah, and We were afraid The first time because K. Nina run it wasn't it was so difficult because you need to wear a scarf and it's different traditionals but in Saudi it was quite well because The council that we need to wear something. Yeah, it was like three years and you felt safe you felt. Yeah, it was so so safe and Organization was perfect was brilliant and You know, okay, price. I was so high Very good prices. Yes, very good. Did you win some price? You did well in the yeah, I Finished second in blitz. So yeah, so you want some money. Yeah, I want some money Yeah, that was nice. Yeah, this was nice. That was women only at all with exactly what you're saying You know that you need to these kind of tournaments. Yeah I also want a lot of money in London, you know, when I beat it beat all the man. Yes, but That was also rapid chest. That was