 Okay, here we go. Now we are alive. Yes, we are alive. And I'm not sure if you're in North America or in Europe. Adoro, where are you? Yeah, I'm in Europe. I just came back from Belgium. I just played my first festival in Belgium, like the first real festival. It was the Alcatraz Festival. I was so great. It was a three-day festival. And we streamed the life all over the world. And I was so great. We're like 20,000 people there. It was the first time a normal festival. And it felt so good. We did some other stuff, some special things. But a normal festival, there's nothing like it. How long has it been since you last played someplace? Actually, we played last week and we started. Well, that wasn't too bad. Go ahead. Yeah, we did some different things. You call it beach chair, open airs. And everybody can sit in a beach chair. You can have some beers. You can dance around, head bang, sing along. So that was great. But the fans are so far away, so you have to work 10 times harder to reach them. But in the end, everybody was super excited and on fire. And there were big screens. So it was similar to a driving show, but not sitting in cars, sitting in beach chairs. But whatever, I was so happy that we could do at least something. Even though it's, of course, better in a nice sweaty club or a great festival. But it was good. It was hard work. And now we're all in good shape. Ready for all these big festivals coming up. So vacuum and stuff. And some other gigs. Yeah, I was looking at your tour schedule. You're not going to stop for the next couple of months. It's like you rested too long and now you're ready to go each and every night. Yeah, each and every night. Oh God, I hope I will survive it. But yeah, I'm excited. And yeah, we have so many gigs which got moved or cancelled or postponed. So yeah, the next tour is in October with Michael Schenker. And we have tour in the fall all over Europe and many more festivals in England. The Rocking the Bowl in Sheffield, that's in September. And vacuum, if that takes place, it's called Bullhead City. And it's a little bit smaller, but still I think they are estimating it 25,000 people. So if it all takes place, but in Europe, the numbers are going up. Who knows what will happen? I hope for the best. Well, the good news. Was Michael before Michael Schenker? Have you ever toured with him before? No, but I played with him on the legendary Monsters of Rock Festival in 1986 in Germany. In England, Castle Donnington, there was Motorhead and in Germany was Michael Schenker. And I met him a few times when we did that metal show. That's the last time I met him a few years ago. But I'm excited and such a great player. We were able to interview him on a few occasions and we were able to see him live with the Michael Schenker, his latest project. And he just plays for three hours straight. He never leaves the stage. It's incredible at his age and the way he plays, it was a pure treat. You know, he's amazing, but just don't ask him about his brother. That's all. Just don't ask him about his brother, then you're all good. But he's amazing, Michael Schenker. Yeah, well, yeah, family, it's, yeah, yeah, but, yeah. I don't have a family, so I don't know. I wish I would have brothers and sisters, but I was an only child. That's the reason why I always wanted to have a band. So now I have a band and yeah, but we all take care of each other and yeah. All right, September and here's the big news. September 24th on Doros own rare diamonds productions, right? Your own record label. The 35 year of, is it 35 years already? Warlock's Triumph and Agony. You know, this is a live version of all the album, not in the same sequences as the album, but still it's all there, all the songs. All right. Why did you decide to revisit this album live as a complete? Because I think that I was so, it was so great. It's one of my favorite records. We did, we didn't know. I think 20 records, but this one, I think it stands out. It brings back the best memories. It came out in 87. So it's almost 35th anniversary. So next year we can celebrate the 35th anniversary, but the making of it was awesome. Great people were involved. Cosy Power played drums on it, on a few songs. So that was awesome. Like the legendary Cosy Power with so much energy and power. And I met so many great people. Tommy Bourne, who was my guitar player in 87. He joined when we did like actually the 30th anniversary and then we played the whole album in its entirety for the first time. We never played it before and we only played a couple of songs and it was such a treat to play every song. And I thought every song was like great quality and, you know, special. And we started playing. We did an America tour, a Spain tour, played some festivals. Graspop Festival, Norway Rock and Sweden Rock. And Sweden Rock Festival, which is a great festival, guys. If you ever come to Europe, Sweden Rock is... Yeah, it's on my fucking list. Yeah, that's good. Because it's definitely worth it. We played Sweden Rock. And that was the first time that we performed the Triumph in agony in its entirety. And the first time was the most magical one. So you hear on the CD, it's a mixture between Sweden Rock and Spain. And there's a Blu-ray coming with it. And there you see the whole Sweden Rock Festival. And like our performance at the Sweden Rock Festival and a nice documentary. It's about 90 minutes long. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, I think it's very cool, especially for die-hard fans. I even put some bootlegs in it, like some snippets of our tour with Megadeth in 88. And, you know, all kinds of stuff. And, of course, the videos from all we are and for Emma. And I think it looks really good. Sounds good. And it was great to play that album. And we had a three-guitar player. So it was Tommy Bowen and my two guys, Bas Mars, look up on Chota. And my drummer, he joined 1993, Johnny D. And our bass player, Nick Douglas, he joined in 1990. So we were lots of soloing and shredding on stage. And it was awesome. And we didn't plan on it. So it was really not planned. But when we couldn't tour anymore last year, I started doing this best-of album. There was Magic Diamonds. That's that one. That's cool. Yes, I know that one. Yeah. And I started out just like I thought, I want to put my favorite 15 songs on or do some live versions. Look at those posters in Baku. Let's take a look at those posters there in Baku. Look at that. Those posters, all the posters in Baku. Move your head just a little bit like that. Look at that. Wow, that's cool. That's the thing. That's of the Emma album. That was an album. That is my beloved Lemi. Oh, beloved Lemi. And that's the Baku, the people they recorded for the anniversary. And that's... Doro, Doro, Doro. Did I read recently that you've got, Emmy sent you some of his ashes? Yeah. Oh, wow. That must have been quite an honor when you received that. I tell you, it's like, yeah, it came in that box and it was sent to my mom's house. And you know, my mom said, are you expecting something? And I said, no, but maybe I, you know, maybe somebody's writing something. And yeah, and then there was this, you guys want to see it? Yes, please. Let's see Lemi's ashes. All our viewers would want to see that. Yeah. That's a good one, Alan. I forgot about that. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. And actually, there was, there was a beautiful letter coming with this package and they said, well, she has some stories about Lemi. And Lemi, I think he said that he would like to have, you know, his closest friends and family, like they would have the ashes. This is like, this is heavy. I, when I saw it, I, man, it... You probably had to sit down when you received it. Oh, hey. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, hey. And wow, I was so blown away. And that's... So that's it. Can you, can you bring it up a little bit there? Oh, okay. Yeah. So, oh, Alan, let's see this. Let me see that. Oh yeah. It's in a bullet. Yes. Yes. That's what I read. It's in a bullet. Yeah. Yeah. And it says Lemi. I don't know if you guys can see it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, there like that. Yeah. More that way. And Todd, I'm wearing your shirt today. Oh. Good. Yeah. There it is. Look, you see that? There's Todd Latori's shirt and we have Lemi bullet, the bullet of Lemi's ashes. That's amazing. Yes. And you can actually do it as like, you could maybe put it as like jewelry around your neck. But I thought, oh, no way. Or if I would ever lose it, I would. You would give. You know what? That's such a touching gift. I mean, that, that's, that's so, I guess, so Lemi, I guess. That's all you can say, right? Man, I love them so much. Oh man. Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. And another singer, Ronnie James dear, of course, you sang on Egypt when the chains are gone on the tribute album. Are you interested in looking forward to reading his autobiography? Yes. I actually, I got it. I got it. Pick it up. Pick it up. Do you have it there? Yeah, I got it. All right. We have an upcoming show with Wendy very, very soon. So yeah, we're talking to Wendy on Friday and we're going to talk about the book. I'm about 200 pages in. Alan's on page two. Yeah, I just got it when we played the festival in Alcatraz. So I, I haven't, I haven't, I just looked at all the nice pictures and please say hi to Wendy and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's actually the German version. I don't know the American version. I think the cover looks nice. Oh, and it's an all multi-language. That's what it, we're going to, anyways, we're going to talk about it with Wendy multi-language, but a little plug. That's great. That's great. I'm sure she'll appreciate that. Right. Yeah. I'm reading it. I kind of, I'll give my opinion on Friday, but yeah, I'm enjoying it. And this lineup, I think that's when we went on tour in 87. That's a clutch now. Yeah. Jimi Bain, the bass player. He was a sweeter too. Oh man. He was so great. He drank a lot. He drank a lot. He drank a lot, man. Yeah. That's, but everybody was so sweet and Greg Goldie and Vinny Epis or Episi. Yeah. So I was killer and coach now he played on our record, the record after the Triumph and Agony album, the force majeure. And he was a keyboarder too. We talked to Claude. We talked to Claude. He was a blast to talk to. He was a great interview. Great stories. Yeah. All right. So I'm going to, I'm going to also get to some questions here because there's people typing. Wait, I just want to go, go, go, go, go, go. 35 years ago. Okay. Now we're in North America. So when Triumph and Agony came out, we all know, you know, all we are of course, but how did that album change your career in North America? I tell you, it was, and it was a dream come true. The first record was the first one was burning the witches and hellbound and true steel. And I think everything was leading up to the Triumph and Agony album. And when I came to America, I just had like three days. It was like a three day promotion tour for the true steel album. And I fell in love with America and New York and oh my God. And I wanted to stay. And then everything fell into place. I met somebody. His name was Joey Bellen, who became the producer and later on. And he wanted to show me the club scenes, the record stores, which were open 24 hours. Wow. That was so awesome. Like the tower records, like that record chain. And I was, I was so in heaven. So we were going out and checking out all the metal scenes and the clubs and stuff. And then I told Joey, well, in Europe, we have great metal clubs as well. He said, so what else do you want to do? You want to go somewhere, another club? And then we went to his apartment and we did a little jam session. And I told him about my experiences on tour or promotion tour. And my first promotion tour I did with our Burning the Witches album in Hungary. And I was in 1983, 84. And, you know, and I was like, you know, we were from back then. It was West Germany. Everybody was happy, excited. It was a really metal. So we went to the border in Hungary and we thought we would get into jail because people were so serious. They took away all our records. We had like tons of Burning the Witches records in our trunk. And I said, yeah, that's pornography because on the Burning the Witches record, there was a little tiny girl, you know, tied to this candle and the warlock, you know, this old guy who was lighting a candle. So it was fantasy art. But man, they were so serious. We thought we are in really in trouble. So I told Joey about it. And he being from America where everything is free, you can do whatever you want, you know, you can go wherever you want. And I told him about it. So we wrote our first song and it was East Mid-West. East Mid-West. There's going to be a hell of a mess. Yeah. And the next day I went to the manager. It was Alex Grove and I told him Air Clubs were great. Awesome. And I said, I think we wrote a great song. We put it on our Walkman. And I let him listen to it and he said, wow, it sounds really great. Why don't you guys go on and do more stuff? So the next song we wrote was Three Minute Warning. And then Joey showed me all kinds of stuff. And I was a really curious teenager. I like to try out everything. And he said, did you ever play the VG board? And I said, no, but I know in Germany back then he was totally forbidden. And I was so curious and I said, oh, let's do it. Let's do it. So we were playing the VG board. The end result was not so good because the apartment almost burned down. But before that, yeah, it was like, oh man, we overdid it. We overdid it. And then one night we got so scared. We thought we would never ever do it again. But a little bit before that, I asked Joey if he can ask this spirit. You know, if they have a message for me and the message was make time for love. And then we wrote our first ballot for the Triumph and Agony album. And then we had three songs. And we thought, man, that sounds awesome. And Alex said, hey, you got it recorded like really, like really good demo. And we went into the Power Station studio in New York City. And that was the best studio at the time, I think in the whole world. And the audience, the atmosphere was great. It had so much magic. We had a great engineer. His name was Steve Winkoff. He became the engineer for Jim Steinman and Meet Love later on. He was very talented, young guy and full of energy. Great. Yeah. And then I told Joey, we need a metal guitar player because Joey is a great guitar player, but he is more rock and like, like 12 string and like beautiful. But you know, there was always a difference between metal and rock and hard rock. And he said, yeah, I think I know somebody who could do it. And he called his friend and it was Tommy Boll. And he came into the studio. He had tons of equipment, 10 Marshall stacks and stuff. And then Tommy was playing and he was on the floor, on his back, sweating, bleeding, playing, you know. And I thought, oh, this is great. And that's what made the whole album so energetic and wild. And then there was one song. It was Touch of Evil. And I told the manager, his name was Alex Grop. He was the advisor, but he became the manager later on. And you know, I said, Alex, I need somebody with a lot of power because I want to do one song. It's Touch of Evil. I want to scream my butt off. And he said, okay, he said, okay, there will be a surprise waiting for you at the studio. One day later, I went to the power station studio. It was early in the morning and who was there? Cozy Power. The legendary Cozy Power. And he said, Doro, you need some power. And I said, yes. And then he played the drums. We were all like, our jaws were dropping because he had so much energy and power. And then I sang my vocals to Touch of Evil the day later. And I was screaming and screaming. And the headphones were exploding. I always had the loudest headphones. It was always crazy. And suddenly it was at night. And suddenly there was a ball of light coming into the window. Like doing, you know, a real round, really fast. Everybody got so scared. Everybody said, Doro, what did you do? And I said, ooh, I was just screaming. And then everybody thought, okay, we got to go home. We got to, you know, that was the end of the session. And next day we went back into the studio and said, yeah, let's keep our vocals. He nailed it. We almost died. Everybody died. And yeah, so almost, almost. But yeah, so, so I guess. Do you think the Triumph and Agony cover would have got confiscated too? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I'm not sure. And I mean, times changed. It was 83. It was really strict and stuff. And you know, yeah, like, wow, the officers on the border. Oh, man, you know, and they, they weren't about much fun. That's for this way. So I don't know. Like now we played in Hungary many times. You know, many diehard metal fans and, you know, there was never a problem, just pure joy. But back in the day, yeah, and you couldn't even tour there. Like you couldn't go to Russia or to East Germany or to the Czech Republic or to Hungary. There was, you know, we tried so many times. So the first time that we could even go into a country that was hungry in 1984, I think. But when it took everything away, that, you know, that was that for our promotion. Yeah. Let me ask you about. I don't even know for live anymore. Oh, we can't hear you. We can't hear you. You're muted. We can't hear you. There you are. All right. Just so you guys know, I lost the internet. I don't even know. I don't even know for on anymore. We're back. We're back. Okay. You lost the internet. That's fine. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. I don't know what happened. The internet blew. And I guess we're, we're still on, I guess. Okay. So we're very spoiled, Doro, because a couple of a few weeks ago, we were able to interview Lee Aaron, right? The metal. Now we've got you today. So, you know, as a young man growing up in the 80s, I really spoiled it. And I think you both had some parallel. You know, you're both models. You went into. I was never a model. I was never a model. Thank you so much to you. But no, no. I don't know. In some magazines, they, they were just writing it. But no, I, no, I was always a metalhead. So it was never more. She gave us her perspective of what it was like in North America. You know, she gave us her perspective of what it was like in North America. You know, being a metal singer and fronting a band. What was the European attitude for a woman fronting a metal band back in the 80s? Actually, I felt like I was one of the guys. I never felt like different. And I was always really treated so good. Like even our first tour, there was with Judas Priest in 86. They were so nice to me. So respectful. And my second tour was with Wasp. In the 80s, I was with Judas Priest. I was with Judas Priest. I was with Judas Priest. I was with Judas Priest. My second tour was with Wasp. In the UK. And Blacky Lawless was so sweet to me because I was sick as a dog. When I toured with Judas Priest, I was watching their soundcheck every day. And we finished the tour in Scandinavia and I was always watching the soundcheck and the tour manager wrote to me. I always said, hey, you have to be careful because when you're walking on the ice, it was like ice hockey venues. And you know, and not that you get sick and I said, no, no, I will not get sick. So next day, we hopped on tour with Wasp in the UK. And I was so sick. I think I was hallucinating. I had fever. I was really sick. Probably pneumonia. So and in the UK, we played a great tour, but it was the smaller clubs, which was the big venues. And in the UK was the clubs. And usually they have only one dressing room. And you know, and the support then, of course has no dressing room. So I was sitting in, you know, on the floor, you know, on the staircase. It was like, it was winter time and wind was blowing. It was like cold. And I was sitting there freezing, you know, and, and then Becky Lawless came up the stairs and he probably will not remember that, but I remember it well. And she said, dollar, are you from the support then warlock? And I said, yes. And I think he said, you look really sick. Are you sick? I said, oh man, I think I feel I'm dying. So he said, you know what, come with me. And then he told the guys in the band of his band, he said, you know what, let your rest and give her the dressing room. And so I was in, let me in like his dressing room. And then he gave me all kinds of magic potions, like, you know, for the voice, you know, some medicine, some fruit juice, you know, fresh fruit juice was unheard of in the 80s. That didn't even exist. So all kinds of stuff. And then he said, rest, you know, take a nap and, you know, and then when I woke up, I felt like a million bucks and we started the tour and the tour was great. And I will never, ever forget that. That you were so nice to me and went out of his way to, yeah. And then it was like instant healing. So that's, you know, it was magic. So yeah. And then I always felt really good. Like people were really nice to me. And the next tour was actually with the legendary Ronnie James Dio in 87. Yeah. It was like, when the Triumph and Agony album came out, we hopped on tour with Ronnie James Dio in Europe. It was so awesome. And in 88, we hopped on tour with Megadeth and Sanctuary. And it was a big tour, big venues and it was so awesome. And then we could tell like Triumph and Agony, it became a big album for us. And all we are became a big single. And then the second single was for Emma. And all we are was shot in, the video was shot in LA, in the LA River Basin where Terminator 2 was filmed. And every time I watch Terminator 2 and other Schwarzenegger, I, you know, I think of our all we are video. And the second video was for Emma, the song in three languages, English, German, Spanish, and I was in Baton Rouge and Louisiana and New Orleans. And I was there for a few weeks because they said, well, just like learn how to ride without a saddle. Like, you know, we want to have some, you know, a beautiful horse. It was a white horse. And I was so awesome. So I fell in love with all the swamp music and, you know, and went to all the bars and met fantastic musicians. And so it was like these times were so unbeatable. And that's the reason why when we did the Triumph and Agony Live and the videos and the Blu-ray, all these great memories came back. And so it was really, it was the best. You know what? Okay. So the chat, the chat froze, the video froze, the stream froze and everything's back. So I'm just going to read out some questions. Well, yeah. Okay. I think the leader Ford, Lee Aaron Dorotour, the three metal Queen tours. What about that? I know you guys touched on. Are you interested in that? Are you interested in something like that? Yes. Yes. Yeah. It would be awesome. And I just did something with leader Ford like a year ago. And yeah, I, I got this award and. Oh, the metal Hall of Fame. Yes. You just got this. That was actually that's where, that's where I met you. And I interviewed you and Tony Bolin. Yeah. Tommy Bolin, Tommy Bolin. Yeah. Yeah. Let's look familiar. Okay. Now I remember. I get the the narrow thing. And yeah, I could give her this award. I got it one year before actually in button, the American guys came over to button and I got this beautiful. Award. That's awesome. And then I could give it to leader Ford one year later and we said, we've got to do something because we know each other from the early 80s. Did many photo sessions at many labs. And yeah, and then we did actually something nice in the studio and it will be. Yeah. On her record eventually. Yeah. So yeah, we did something. Yeah. So, so yeah, to work together would be awesome. Yeah. Somebody, somebody saying, somebody saying, what about Tony? I owe me ever get a chance to work with him or you want to work with them or maybe just give him a call and give her a call. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't have the chance to, to, to work with them yet. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I just, we're anxious because we had Max Norman on. He was, he heard Lita's new album and he was teasing us with it. So maybe, maybe something with you might be on that new album. So. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You have to wait and see. Yeah. Wait and see. I think it, it would be awesome. Yeah. What about the working with Gene Simmons? What was that like? I mean, on your second solo album, was that like, did you learn a lot from him? Or was he just angry all the time? No, no, no. He was, he was such a great, a gentleman, super sweet, super intelligent. And I think he was a school teacher before music. So he had a really good way to teach you stuff. And, and I was a big kiss fan. So you cannot imagine. It was totally a dream come true. And when I had my first band, actually we picked the musicians. This one guy had big kiss on his arm. The other guy ACDC. So we formed our first band. And, and there was one time I was in LA doing something. And then a promoter called me and he said, wait, I know you're a big kiss fan. Would you like to introduce kiss in Germany on the monsters of rock festival? And, and I thought, wow, this awesome. So I flew over to Germany. And then, and that was the first time that I met kiss and Gene Simmons. And, yeah. And then there's such a deep impression on me. And, and a couple of weeks later, Gene, he has the same around the same time, the same birthday, like my dad, my dad is not anymore alive, but anyhow, it was close. And then I told my manager, I would like to send him a birthday card. And my manager said, don't, don't be silly. You know, it's like, yes, no time for that. And I said, yeah, but maybe we could do something together or maybe I could cover a kiss song, write a song together. And my manager said, no, no, I mean, out of the question, they don't have time for that. So I said, okay. And I was living in Manhattan. And one time I got a phone call from the manager. He said, Doro, get up, you know, meet me at the Park and Meridian hotel. There was on, I think 57th street. And that was the first hotel where I ever stayed in New York. So I knew it well. There was where everybody stayed always, like all the musicians and stuff. So I got out of bed. Didn't even take a shower. I didn't put my makeup on. You know, because he said, make it quick. You know, so who is it? And he said, well, it's a surprise. And my manager was waiting in front of the hotel. And I said, no, I want to know. You know, I thought maybe it's somebody from Germany or something. He said, Gene Simmons. And I tell you, I almost dropped that. And I thought, Gene Simmons, you didn't tell me, you know, and I was getting so nervous. And then we walked three times around the block. And it's a big ass block. And, you know, then Alex said, Hey, you know, are you, are you ready? Now we can let Gene wait any longer. And then I walked in and he was sitting in the lobby. And he was very nice to me, very polite and, you know, and then he asked me what I wanted to go for, which sound and stuff. I was in the middle of doing a new record. And then he wrote everything down in his book. And I never had the experience that somebody would like really listen and write stuff down. When I said something, usually it's like one ear there and the other out, you know. And then yeah, yeah. And he was like me, like, you know, like you. So he was super nice. And then he said, okay, let's try it. You know, if nothing comes out, we have nothing to do. Nobody would know about it. So we tried stuff out. And then to make a long story short, we started in New York, but we finished, or we actually recorded the record in LA in the fortress studios where Keith recorded the Heart and Shade album and Tommy Thayer. He was the co-producer and Pat Reagan. He was a great engineer. Yeah. And then there was, every day I was living in the dream. I'll tell you. And I had a red car. I was driving to the studio every day. And, you know, my knees were shaking every day. I couldn't get over. The Gene Simmons is there in the studio and, you know, working with us. It was awesome. He was super nice, super sweet. And then one time I presented him some demos, some songs, song ideas, and there was a blues. And he said, Doro, did you ever, or do you know about the blues? And I said, oh, not really a little bit. And next day he bring a stack of vinyl records, CDs. Like, I don't know. 60, 50, 60. He said, you first have to listen to every single one. And then, you know, we might think that you're singing a blues. Then you might be able to sing the blues like pictures. I'm going to, everybody wants to say hi now to Doro. Doro. Do you get that a lot, Doro? Do people sometimes say Doro by mistake? In Russia, they say always Doro because all the female names, they end with an A. So in Russia, they always say Doro, not Doro. So I'm used to it. And then that's a children's show in North America, which is Doro. You know, that's kind of like why people get used to that. But it's okay. I'm just, excuse me. Siegel says, write a book or two, a two volume book. Thomas says, Doro. Jimmy Savage says, that was a great set for kiss. Sadek says, please, she still looks smoking. Okay, there you go. And Jimmy Savage says, Dutch land Uber, I'll, I'll, I don't know. Dutch land Uber, I'll, I'll. I guess that's German. Yeah. I don't know. Jimmy's better at Greek than his German. Guitar Storm says, I think Doro was the first female artist who was heavy metal or close or the first most popular, we'll say, right? I mean, there was, I guess, lead afford was sort of borderline metal, rock, I guess. Greetings from Ireland from guitar storms. I'm just reading all these quick, quick comments because there was a lot of people typing here. What happened to the stream? Well, we know. Todd Latoury. Of course I said, he says hi. Todd Latoury from Queens, right? And he says, you're super nice. I bet. I bet. And, and Dennis, parents says, what is the favorite band that you've ever toured with? I mean, I'm sure there's a lot, but I think it's one real favorite band that you've toured with. Since I was a big fan and since Ronnie James Dio was my main inspiration, I would say the Ronnie James Dio tour. Which tour was that? It was in 87. And, and then we did another tour in 2000 in America. It was a big tour together with England, and it was so great because, in the 90s when ranch was so big and stuff, nobody really thought, you know, a tour would like sell out or stuff. And, and I, I, one of my life insurances got to go because I had, you know, I wanted to go on tour with Ronnie and, and it was the best tour. And then you could really feel metal was coming back and everybody was excited. The metalheads were totally on fire and hungry. So I would say the Dio tour in 2000, there was the, the best experience. Other tours were awesome too. Like priest was motorhead, sex and everything. Metal church in the States in 2019. That was awesome too. And, but Dio, there are 2000 Dio there was like, man, I still go back to those, those early rainbow albums. I mean, the first one and long rock and roll. I mean, just listen to Dio's voice and the lyrics and everything. It's always a joy to go back and re-visit those albums. They are totally, totally, totally. Yeah. Yeah. I, I love his voice. Yeah. He was, and he was such a sweetheart in how he treated the fans. He was always standing outside, even when it was cold or raining, giving everybody a hug, everybody in autograph, you know, photo or talking. And he was, he was, he was awesome. What about my cow? Did you know my cow for metal church? Did you know him well? Very sad passing with my cow. Man, it's all, it's all unbelievably sad. Yeah, we had, we had a great tour together. We became great friends. And by the end of the tour, we were always singing something together, usually breaking the law because I, you know, everybody knows breaking the law. So the friends were singing together with us. And Mike was always like, yeah, joining us on stage. And he was super sweet. What a nice, gentle, sensitive soul. And I'm, I'm so sad. And yeah. Yeah. And I always want to go on tour with metal church again in the States. I always ask the manager, we have to say manager, his name is Jeff Keller. And I always ask Jeff, hey, what are the guys doing? And this was an awesome package. So, you know, I would have loved to do it again, but it's, it's so sad, man. Yeah. So many people who are not anymore with us. And it's like, but the times are tough. I think I never felt that times were tougher than in this day and age. So I must say. Well, we're getting older. We're getting older, right? That's the problem. No, I think, I think, Well, I'm getting older. I think you live and learn. You know, you know, know more how to deal with things. But I think in general, like the whole word, it's so crazy, you know, and the pandemic, oh man, the last one and a half years. How's this? Kenny from New York, from Brewster, New York, who does a lot of shout outs. He probably did a shout out with you in New York. Kenny says hi. Hi. He did a picture and a little shout out with you once. What about the new album? Okay. I don't want to take all of your time today, but what about like, are you working on a new album? Is there material? What's going on there? Yeah, actually, yeah, working on a new album. And it will be probably coming out next year. And yeah, but first in September, 24th, the Triumph and Agony Live. And yeah, and this is through my own label, where Diamonds Productions, the Triumph and Agony Live, and the new album will be probably, be like another release on Nuclear Blast. And yeah, and then we'll be a killer album. Is it going to be Doro or Doro Warlock or Warlock featuring Doro? What's the name going to be here? I know that you, like when we spoke to you last, it was Warlock that you acquired the name that's known now for a while. But what's the name? Is it going to be Doro? Is it going to be? I don't know. What do you think? What do you think? What do you think? What do you think is a good idea? Yeah, actually this album, the Triumph and Agony Live, I always want to call it Doro Pesh of Warlock. And then we did it, had the album cover ready. Not this is the original, but the new one. It's just getting printed as we speak. And then they had a problem with like, I don't know, the streaming platforms and all they said, no, that doesn't exist. Doro Pesh of Warlock doesn't exist. You have to call it Doro. And then Warlock, Triumph and Agony. So that's how we call this upcoming release and the new release. I don't know. It depends. Sometimes you have to talk to the record company as well, how they would like to do it. But I could use the name Warlock now. And 20 years later, Have you written the songs? Are the songs ready to go? Or they're already? You want new songs? Six songs we got. And yeah, so we have to, and I don't know, maybe I want to do another double album. The last one was a double album, Forever Boys, Forever United. And yeah, we have tons of ideas, so we'll see. But next year, it may be a nice surprise. And good, heavy songs. We'll be very heavy. Lots of anthems and some soulful songs as well. So I'm thinking, you know what it is, because when you go to a record store, if anybody goes to the record store anymore, what are you going to look up? Doro or you're going to look up Warlock, right? Like where are you going to go? Right? I'm going to look in the W, I'm going to go in the Ds. Or that's where, and you know, I'm making fun of that, but it's true, right? You don't know how to categorize it. That's true. When you go on Spotify, if you use Spotify, what are you going to type? Yeah, that was the problem. That was the problem now with the Trump and Agni life. Exactly what you said. And then sometimes it was like, I always said, Doro, that sounds like, I would like to have the real name Doro Pesh. And then I said, oh no with the P, no P, like Pesh, Doro, Warlock. So, so there was always like, yeah, that's sometimes these technical things you have to consider. When you're ready, come back me and Alan will help you out. You'll figure it out for you. Doro is like Madonna. We don't need anything else. It's just Doro. We, you know, or Dora in Russia or Dora in Russia, right? Yeah. Like Warlock, it was such a long time ago. So maybe the young metalheads don't even know so much about Warlock either. So it's like, yeah, but we'll see. But I will surprise you guys next year within your album. And you will find it. I hope you will find it. Well, look in both sections. All right. That's pretty much it. Unless you have something else that you want to talk about, promote or something else. I just want to say, say thank you so much. And I wish everybody the best. And stay healthy. Stay metal. And I'm excited to see you live again. I can't wait for the next tour for the next festivals. And thank you guys for having me. I had a lot of fun. You're the first guest where the internet went down. You broke the internet. It's like broken lightning ball and everything. So that's like, that's the wild metal energy. But it's all good. It's live. It's like being when you're playing live, this is just the same thing. Right? Anything could go wrong. And that's what makes it so exciting. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. There are all kinds of stuff always happens. Like when you do a show, somebody has to, you know, throw up a wait a minute. Okay. You know, there's always something or somebody's pants split open. So there's always something, you know? Yeah. So, so you never know. It's like, but every day is then a new adventure. So I'm going to, I'm going to put up your album here, Doropesh Warlock Triumph and Agony Live. Go pick it up September 24th. Yeah. We want to wish you the best. The upcoming concerts wish you all the best and much success. And we can't wait to have you back in a year when your new album comes out. Oh, thank you so much. Thank you for your kind words, for your kindness, for your metal spirit. And I wish you all the best and hope to see you and talk to you soon. All right. Thanks for the real pleasure. Thank you very much.