 Hello everyone. Thank you for tuning in to Service Render Skate Park Advisory Board here. We're going to talk about Skate Park and Landry Park and ideas and suggestions that we have to make it better for everyone to use. But first I want to talk about some upcoming events from Service Render. We're about to open on February 21st. We're going to be opening up our art gallery in the Burlington City Place Mall on the 28th from 5.30 to 8. And then we're going to have events February 28th at Fundraiser. It's called Art so One for Comedy and Art at Hotel Vermont. And we're going to have another event like that at Queen City Burial in March 28th. And then April we're going to have at the Hotel at Marriott Comedy and Art is going to be so much fun. So these days will be you will see it on your social media. There's a lot of things coming up and we're happy to have our new sponsor Havett Mead Brewery and Queen City Brewery. And so we're very thankful to have them to support what we're doing. And so right now we're going to talk about our Skate Park and our ideas with our advisory board that we've been working on all together. We've been meeting on this. They've presented on in a community forum to our ministry commissioners and gave them some ideas about what they want to do with the park. And we're going to be on talking to City Council on February 11th and give them some ideas, same ideas. And then also then we're going to be on the agenda to present doing this work. And so I'm Bruce Wilson. Yeah, thank you Bruce. You're welcome. I live here in the Burlington area and I've been a regular at the WNUC Skate Park for, I don't know, 12 years or something like that. So it's like a second home to me. And over the years I've worked with the city and with Dave Wood from Talent Skate Park to get small renovations done over the years. And yeah, now we're kind of getting to the time when I think bigger stuff needs to happen there. So yeah. My name's Spencer. This is the first time I've been involved with a skate park renovation project. So I'm really excited. My name is Christian Cantrell. I am a student at UVM. Skateboarder here in Burlington. I love WNUC Skate Park and love what it could be with the help of Bruce and service rendered. I'm Mike Bland. I'm also a skateboarder in the area around Burlington and WNUC Skate mostly. It's also my first time being involved in any kind of skateboard renovation or skate park renovation. So I'm pretty excited. Yeah, so we're all excited too. I'm not a skateboarder, but I told these guys I'm going to learn how to skateboard. Teach me. I'm not going to start off on no lifts or nothing. I'm going to stand around the park doing my little flips and stuff. That's right. Little flips. Little flips. We'll get you doing all the tricks, Bruce. Don't worry. I'm excited about this. We've done some work and we put all our brains together to come up with some ideas about how we can make the park better, just some improvements. We're not talking about doing like tearing nothing down too much. You know, more than old stuff, get rid of some more. Not even ten or five hundred, so what are some of the ideas that we're talking about? If you want to... We can bring up some schematics if you want to talk about. So bring up the schematics of the park. So we have the schematics of the park. That's Landry Park right there, skate park. This is how it looks. And I know one thing that I learned from all of us is that God bless A-Dog skate park. But it's a little different than this park. Can you tell me what you think the difference? Who want any money to start? I'll start. Something that we talked about in our meetings before is how this is more of a plaza style skate park, how most of the features are just flat like rails, boxes, ledges with some quarter pipes and transition laid in. And that's kind of like what makes the park different from A-Dog. So that's kind of the feel that we all enjoy about Landry. And it's kind of what we want to maintain with the renovations. Yeah, I... Any cameras back to us? Yeah, I also agree with what he was saying about it being sort of a plaza style skate park. It has a DIY nature where everything there you can move around and be really, really creative, which is what skateboarding is sort of all about. It's a way for us to express ourselves and going to Landry with all the homies, we just move things around and create together. And it's really easy to build, right? We're just leaking and building out there. There's like, when you go to Waterfront and there's like a ton of people on the bike path and everyone hears about this new skate park and people who don't skate go up there and they watch you. To me, I can't do what I want to do in that situation. Yeah, exactly. The park at Landry is so tucked away from everything that you'll never get that. You'll never feel like random people are just watching you. Yeah, I agree with all that. I think a big thing that separates the Winooski skate park from the A-Dog one is just the amount of open space at the park. There's A-Dogs a fantastic world-class premier park. A lot of the features are on top of each other. It can make it a little difficult at times when the park is more crowded. The Winooski one is just a nice, just another option and style that the community of skateboarders around here can get into an experience and that's just more space. Less likelihood of slamming into somebody because the waterfront things are so close to each other so at time when it's busy it can feel like you're skating something and it feels like you're in the way of somebody else or somebody could be in the way of you and it's just kind of really on top of each other there and yeah, Winooski is just kind of much more wide open, a little more free range you can just like roll around the park for a while and not feel like you're got your head on a swivel seeing what's coming around the corner if you're going to take out some kid on a scooter. Parents don't get psyched about that. A-Dog park is concrete, right? Yeah, oh yeah. It's like you can't move nothing around. Which is great, concrete is such an awesome surface you don't have to move around. Concredos. It's a little heavy. Yeah, you can't do it. So you can't move around and one thing I noticed too, because I'm one of those people like wrap my bike down the bike path and then I see oh, A-Dog parking people you know what's going on and I see that people they just, like they can't do what they can do at Landry Park just get on this fly around the park just do their own little skateboard tricks to themselves. So when you jump down, you gotta start going to the bank on whatever it is, right? So when you jump down in A-Dog's park you have to go right into your tricks or whatever it is you gotta do. Yeah, you can't stop. You can't stop, you just gotta keep going, right? Yeah, there's people always gotta wait for somebody to stop. I noticed that to finish something before they can actually do stuff. Like the one stair set in the rail and the hubba, like right by the entrance and that's a really popular zone but then right by that is also like a little bank and kind of a clamshell quarter pipe that's also really popular people going back and forth. So you have people landing landing, you know, they're hitting the stairs or hitting the rail, whatever and where they're landing there's also like a hot zone for people to be going back and forth. But I mean, nothing to take away from A-Dog it's great that we have like so many options to skate here, like the Burlington has a really great skate scene with so many different things to skate and so we're just trying to do something different and keep the vibe at Winooski the way it is and that way the community skaters around here like have different things to skate, they don't get stagnant on one thing or the other, they can hop around from waterfront, go skate Landry, they can go to the Burton Bowl this or that and so there's a ton of variety in this little town. Yeah, that's cool and the good thing about it, they're not like on top of each other, but when I go to the Hub it's another skate park somewhere in Bristol Yeah, that's the Hub So now, there's like any little workout, some, you know I haven't been there in a long time, it looks like a really fun park I just, yeah, I mean I love when you got that photo Oh, yeah, yeah it was like pretty fun, but it's really in rough shape I was like, cry because sometimes I go take a 116 going to Middlebury or whatever or Rutland and I see that park and I'm like, whoa, the Hub and does this look from this driving by, don't look the best shape you know what I mean, but you know may hope they fix it up Bruce, the great thing about skateboarders is, this sounds a little silly but we're kind of like cats, you can give you can give us a little cardboard box that doesn't look like much of anything and we can have fun on it and we'll play with it for hours and hours on it I was like, I don't fall on my feet exactly Oh, no, yeah, no, we're not that balanced, unfortunately what I mean to say is you can give us a tiny little curb, a broken barrier and we're going to play on it for a really long time and have a ton of fun so those skateparks that don't look like a whole much, a lot of much skateboarders are having a lot of fun there but what you're doing and offering to come in, that's so, so huge because you're helping us plus you know, and nothing too it's like you know, you got this incredible trick that you're doing whatever and then you're like okay and when I land, I gotta make sure I don't land on the corner of that dang on box right there or you know because that was gonna kill me, so you gotta build some extra skill not to hit some damage falling becomes a skill its own skill in skateboarding for sure, you need to like so that's another thing too, it's about safety and liability, you know what I'm saying and it's about having a safe place and I'm sure every city official that's in Winooski will say that's their number one objective, like safety and liability and I know that's what I'm yeah, I mean we don't want to skate any janky parks or set ups, I've heard some pretty gnarly stories, people skating some like beat up ramps like when my one buddy was skating a ramp and there was a piece of sheet metal sticking up oh god, such a gnarly story but he like, he slammed he slid into the sheet metal and the sheet metal happened to go between his finger nail and his finger, so like yeah, we're trying to avoid that I lost that when he was skating just for like a 100% yeah oh god cause that's the thing though we won't stop skating no matter how much it falls apart so that's why it needs to get rebuilt cause we'll just continue on cause individuals like me who might want to try to hit something and I want to I need it right it's really important for the beginners or even kids we don't want them to we don't want them to learn learn on something that's defective, you know what I mean we don't want them to get it right for it then as they get defective we don't know what to do we're gonna do a cool flip or something and miss that defectiveness exactly so I think everybody the commissioners that you presented to on the community forum in Winooski they sent me an email and they said that they were so incredible how you guys put everything together for them, present to them and that they thought that was like I'm about to say this but they thought that was awesome and it is and it was, you know what I'm saying and so with the whole goal that we discussed in our meetings like let's just get this thing and get it done and so they don't have to go through all this stuff we got it here I guess we're going to talk to David about some pricing things like that Spencer and I met with him the other weekend got the ball rolling awesome so we're going to talk about that so let's go to we're going to talk about what we're going to put in the park or you want to go back to the schematic let's go back to the schematic alright so the schematic the skate parker was up there who want to go over with the things that we say I don't know if they can see those numbers yeah we see those numbers who want to read off those numbers and where these things are going to go with the quarterpikes and things like that because you got them all numbered you want to take a stab but you put that yeah I put the whole thing together so I think I understand it a little bit more can you go back to us so everybody can see who's talking because for a minute go ahead so you know we want to we want to show you because you were talking last time we cut you out but everybody needs to know who you are thanks I need my 5 seconds yeah so he's going to be talking about the schematic shots okay go back to the schematics yeah so this is a little piece of gibberish that I put together and basically it's a proposed layout of the new features in the park and like how it could and like keep a lot of the old features that are currently there that we all know and love while adding some more and still keeping the same kind of feel obviously it does not have to look exactly like this this is just kind of a proposal but number one is a 3 feet high by a 12 foot long quarter pipe similar to the quarterpipes that are over on the south side already just a little bit shorter and then number two is that little square in the middle on the left side that's 4.5 feet by 12 feet wide quarter pipe and that's just kind of a redone version of what's already there number three is just a 6 foot one again just a refinish of what's already there number four is that little square in the top left along the edge that's a concrete ledge that one of the community members LJ built it's nice and concrete and a lot of people love that and think that it's one of the best things there so no changes to that would really be necessary number five is a 12 foot concrete ledge similar to the one that's already built number five if you can't see is the top center close to the halfway point just like a longer version of that concrete ledge six would be in the the right corner and that's just kind of a rebuilt version of the steep hip transfer that's already there number seven would be a rebuild of the fund box type thing that's already there too eight would be a new feature and that bottom middle part kind of bigger square with the little square in it and that would just be a bank to ledge having that built as a static object that can't be moved is the idea and that's a less used part of the park right now so putting a bank to ledge there kind of makes a lot of sense and then we have nine which is the barrel rail that's already at the park and that one's pretty fun so a lot of people would like to see that stay ten is a street spine this could possibly be movable I don't know it depends on how big it would be but that might be like a pretty decent spot so you can kind of go over it and then turn around on the quarter pipe and then maybe go back over it or something like that or whatever to each teach their own eleven is a short box like the one that's already there maybe so that it's easier to be moved because it's kind of hard to move that one right now twelve is the tall box again, same thing as a short box there's already one there maybe just make it easier to move thirteen, same deal medium box easier to move fourteen is a square flat bar because there isn't really anything like that right now maybe too tall, it'd be nice for beginners or just learning things and then fifteen is a sea ledge and I think the idea we had is kind of similar to what's at the maple street park in Essex pretty sure that's everything alright so alright so let's go to what did I call this the other sheet the other one so who want to talk about this one because this is something we got like six, seven minutes so who just want to talk about this these are the pieces that we said that we're going to try everything you just said it's just more like an itemized breakdown of what Mike just spoke about just in the list and so this was just to like give to the city commissioners and to share with the whole skate park advisory group as far as ideas, here's a photo example of kind of what we're thinking and then we just have a note as far as where it could be placed on the park and then any other notes for it so this is kind of the document that kind of kicked off our group to get our ideas on a piece of paper and talk about them and yeah these are just examples of the photos of what they could be, it wouldn't be necessarily exactly these things but yeah just to get us all on the same page and then on the backside of it is the just a breakdown of kind of other needs we were thinking for the park of course lights would be awesome if we could skate longer in the day when the sun goes down a utility shed just some of us already spent a lot of time when we get there just sweeping leaves changing water off so just like seeing if the city can provide us with those tools just to make it easier for us to make cleaning things up easier a leaf blower man, that would make all the difference now we have a note just there are some low spots in the park where water collects and if water sits in a spot on the park for too long just eats away at the surface that is a trickier thing to fix so that might just be something that we just pay attention to and you know clean up with squeegees and brooms and then just there is some brush on the northern end of the park that feels like it is growing onto and over into the park so it would be cool to get that all cleaned up and maybe just extending the paved driveway to the park I think that extending the pavement to the park could be really really sick because you could for one thing it is a pain to not be able to skate up from the parking lot where you can have to walk through a bunch of mud and stuff like that but you could put features on the path that would be cool warm up eyes on your way in they would be icing on the cake yeah so we have 5 minutes left and so our next steps you guys are working on the pricing basically with the information we have here and the pricing of these items it just makes everybody's job easy even the city and as you know the city of Winnuski is having they are they are doing a master plan they are about to rebuild they are about to rebuild a lot of things in the city of Winnuski it is going to be incredible and it is already growing and it is going to be even more and so we are coming right on time because part of the master plan is the park and so we are going to help them out this is there is no brainer because here it all is and I am very fortunate as a part of this right now I am the executive director of service rendering but I am also city of Winnuski commissioner so I will be a part you know most of they let me to help get this going so at this point with the information we have you guys made up all the ideas and suggestions that I will be able to pass this on to people there so they can give it to Ray Coffey probably the program director for the city of Winnuski and so they can start pulling together so they will say next month next month we are going to be on an agenda so we are going to present all of us for real there so now that we have these two pieces and we have the pricing estimate and we need to start working on our presentation when do you think we should set up another time at our meeting spot if we are going to meet so on the 11th it is going to be a bigger presentation city plans right well you put it in front of the commissioners last time for the community forum and now you get to do the same thing community forum with the city council with the mayor and deputy mayor city council members and all those guys will be there to hear you like you did last time but this time we are not on the agenda but it is just good because now we are in front of the city council will we be able to see plans, mock-ups, layouts so we can after that it will be a good time to meet and we can see what everybody else is thinking and I think what everybody else is thinking from my thinking is what you guys are thinking what everybody else is thinking how we can incorporate this game if they have convened a meeting like all of us have done then they haven't got the right information you know what I'm saying really think about it so I think this is like you put the yellow dot here you put the green dot here you put your comments and suggestions and we need to do that so we need to do that so we have one minute so anybody want to say anything about anything no thanks for having us first and all your help getting us along in this process and we are excited to see things happen I just want to thank our new intern Anna for behind the scenes can you say something to the camera Anna right quick yeah Anna alright she's the bomb degree so thank you everybody for tuning in when you hear a lot more about Skate Park and Landry Skate Park we'll see you coming up soon have a good evening