 Colleagues and everybody, Deputy President, Honorable Ministers, dear colleagues from the media fraternity, I wish to take this opportunity to welcome you all here. It is indeed our pleasure to provide this platform for you to interact with the Deputy President and the Ministers that are here. Essentially, this is going to be a Q&A session. We've said that all of you have covered the Deputy President in all his interactions here at WEF. You have covered the activities of the South African delegation that has been here. So there would be no need for us to read a statement as would be standard in any press briefing. So this is a Q&A session for you to interact with the leadership here. But we want to request you that remember we are in Kigali. So this Q&A session is simply about our activities here in Kigali, the World Economic Forum in Africa. So on that note, I wish to welcome the Deputy President, I wish to welcome Minister and the President Jeff Khadebe, our Minister of Post and Telecommunication, Minister Cuele, and most of you would know our Ambassador George Twala. I don't know if the Deputy President would want to just say a word or two before we can take a question. And then we will ask all of you to identify yourselves as a standard for the purposes of the leadership here. Thank you very much, Ronnie. We thank all of you for being here and also welcome this opportunity of doing what they call a rep-up. And Minister Jeff Khadebe on my right here and Minister Dr. Cuele on my left here will take all the questions as they always do about anything and everything as you heard our ambassadors on the extreme right. We've spent the last two days and in Dr. Cuele's case three days here interacting with a number of people. This has been a most fruitful forum not only for us in government but also for the private sector and state-owned enterprises that have been delegated this forum. We've had an opportunity of listening to really clever inputs from a number of people and we've also enjoyed the hospitality of President Paul Kagame and indeed have benefited a great deal from what he has had to say more broadly as an African leader but also what he has had to share with all of us about the success and the steps that they are making to make Rwanda a great place for investment. And we congratulate Rwanda for the incredible strides that they have made and we thank the people of Rwanda for being so warm and welcoming to all of us and congratulate President Kagame for arranging this wonderful forum here in Kigali. Kigali for us as South Africans has been almost like an Oasis. We've come here to draw wisdom but at the same time we've also come here to make connections from business delegates with a number of other business people from across the world. A number of them have informed us that they've made good connections, they've got great business contacts, great business possibilities for contracts and this is precisely what we expected of the South African businesses that are here that they should be coming to these types of forums to make contact with a number of business people and move from contact to contract and this we're beginning to see happening with our own eyes and on the government side we've had the joy of being in the presence of a number of other countries from the leadership level at the top with heads of states as well as at the ministerial level and our ministers have been busy at work making presentations, contributions in a number of side forums that are part of this broad forum here. So we've made contributions, we've showcased South Africa as a destination for investment, we've showcased what we are doing even in these trying economic times and as the theme of the conference has been how we can connect Africa digitally and utilize the resources that we have we've been able to relate our own journey, a journey of spreading ICT among South Africans and what the future looks like and what the future portends in as far as this task that we've embarked upon. We've been very pleased to hear that our state-owned enterprises that have come here have also had occasion to interact with other state-owned enterprises as well as other business entities and a number of them have pleasantly informed us that they've formed good connections and there are business possibilities also for our state-owned enterprises. Those that have been here have been SCOM including developmental funding institutions like the IDC, the DBSA, they've all been here and they've been interacting very well with a number of people. So our journey here as South Africans as a South African component or as team South Africa has been really worthwhile, worthwhile in a number of ways and we believe that we've been able to send the message very clearly that South Africa is a good place for investment but it's also been worthwhile to be working in tandem with a number of other African countries. We've been here to applaud the success that a number of countries are making on a number of fronts to be part of the region, to be part of the continent and to be part of this developing story where a number of African economies are reforming, advancing forward on a number of fronts, infrastructure, ICT, delivery of really good services to ordinary people on the continent and we can testify having been there that indeed Africa is on the move, Africa is moving ahead, is charging ahead on a number of fronts, much as the global economy is a bit gloomy, the sense and the deep feeling that we all have here is that we go home renewed, revived that we are part of the African continent that's on the move that is growing and we are part of this big engine that is Africa that is growing on a number of fronts. So our presence here has been a really good and meaningful presence all of us to a man and woman we thought that this forum has been really really meaningful and fruitful. Thank you very much. I thank the Deputy President for his kind remarks. I also take this opportunity to extend on behalf of yourself and the delegation to the leadership of WEF for making this facility available for us. They are also live streaming who also welcoming our viewers from home coming through the platform of SAPC. I think colleagues if I'm not wrong you want to engage the Deputy President and the ministers, our sister here from CNN she's laughing. Stephen Krotas you wanted to bell the cat. Yes. Very good morning ministers and Mr. Deputy President, Eleni Jocos from CNN. I've spent a couple of weeks outside of South Africa and engaging with CEOs some of the things that I get asked is you know how South Africa right now we really worried you know should we be worried are you getting the same thing when you're engaging with CEOs at this point in time and is there concern about the political landscape thank you. I'll take a few questions. Thank you Mr. Vice President. My name is Ethan Tashavia I work for the New Times Rwanda. For Africa, Africa is moving forward you said and to move even further we need integration. I want to hear from you about Rwanda and South Africa's bilateral relations knowing that at some point it was not the best that we everyone wished for especially when those issues with the FDR and Rwanda and Tanzania and South Africa were not understanding thank you. Good morning Mr. Deputy President, ministers Mr. Ambassador. I'm Stephen Krotas from Eyewitness News in Johannesburg. Mr. Deputy President may I ask why should someone spend money in South Africa when they can put it in an economy like Rwanda's which is growing much faster where policy is created quickly and implemented quickly we can't even sort out digital, terrestrial, television or a mining rights bill and especially when it can look to an outsider like parts of our government are almost in conflict with other parts of our government. Thank you. Good morning gentlemen Deputy President. I just wanted to ask a question around integration. When you come to these sorts of forums every year is Africa any closer to getting to the kind of integration that we need to get intra-Africa trade beyond the current 10% or 12% that it's at? Here in Rwanda I noticed that they let people who live in the eastern African region just come into the country with IDs. When are we going to see a scenario when South Africa's borders are more open precisely for the reason of you know mobility and job creation etc etc. The last two for this round. Thank you very much for your time gentlemen. Ramanyang from CCTV Africa. My question to you Mr. Deputy President is when are we going to see a broader reform of South Africa's visa policy to make it easier for persons from eastern Africa to do trade and get into South Africa as well. We've seen some easing with Kenya in the last couple of weeks but that seems to be a piecemeal approach as opposed to one wholesale reform to making it a lot easier for people to get into and out of South Africa. Thank you. Thank you. I'm called from Chigari today. My question is also related to my colleagues. In last two years Rwanda and Uganda got a bit of poor relations and this one led to most of the Rwandans going through a hassle to get a visa to South Africa. I just want to get it from you your Excellency. Can you assure us that Rwandan is going to South Africa who will not go through the hassles we go through? Thank you. Yeah before I invite the Deputy President just to indicate I'll take a few maybe two or three rounds but I would also want us to focus on this Web Africa. Deputy President I have the pleasure to invite you to respond to their questions. Thank you. The lady from CNN sorry I didn't catch the name initially in relation to the political landscape. South Africa is a very stable democracy. We've been a stable democracy since 1994 when the African National Congress won the mandate of our people to govern the country and ANC has done so dutifully and has done that with great purpose with a view of ensuring that there is stability in the country and we begin the process of transforming South Africa and correct the imbalances of the past and that task continues and it is pivoted on a very strong democratic system that is supported by institutions that support democracy. South African institutions are robust they are strong and strong to being durable very very durable and the political landscape is not unique to South Africa what people read in the media about a number of things it's not unique it happens all over the world and countries will go through political issues and challenges from time to time but in our case what we are sure about and what we can rest assure anyone who is an observer of South Africa is that the South African democracy is stable it's strong it's robust so South Africa Inc is charging our head resolving its problems and challenges and nothing that will disturb that stability is going to happen we have far too much at stake as a country and as a democracy to allow any form of instability to derail the process that we are involved in we've got to transform and continue transforming our country so that it delivers the objectives that they all set their minds to to have a South Africa that is free democratic non-racial non-sexist and prosperous we are on course to doing precisely that and we will not turn back from that historic cause that we were given by our forebears when they formed the ANC 104 years ago and here you are dealing with an organization that's governing the country that is 104 years old so it is steeped in history in tradition it is steeped in the good things that the leaders who've preceded the current leadership have done to instill a good value system which we are proceeding along right now colleague from end times talks about Rwanda and South Africa the bilateral relations our mere presence here in Kigali where we are participating at a fairly high level of government and where we are also accompanied by a sizable delegation not only of business but also of state-owned enterprises and may I add non-governmental institutions which make up team South Africa means that South Africa and Rwanda are two countries that existing on the African continent have embraced this notion this African notion of working together of doing things together to achieve our 2063 objectives as a continent and we know that all this can only be done and achieved if we work together so South Africa and Rwanda are determined to work together to be in cooperation and collaboration on a number of fronts and right from the top of government right to the bottom wherever that bottom might be and we enjoy really wonderful cordial relations with the leadership of this country President Paul Kagame has welcomed the whole team of government leaders ministers here with open arms and we continue to have discussions and these discussions will continue on a number of issues that we have to address yes there may be wonderful things that we have to do together so we have to enhance that there may be issues that we've got to address that are challenges we're going to do that and we continue to do precisely that which leads me to the other question that was asked about the ease of travel of Rwandese to South Africa when it comes to visas this this matter is part of the ingredients that we we're talking about and looking at and clearly in order to enhance integration on the African continent this is precisely one of the things that we've got to address and solve that there must be easy flow of people across countries in Africa and if you like between South Africa and Rwanda that is what we would like to see easy flow of businesses between various countries Rwanda and South Africa especially if you like and easy flow of goods trade and investment so because we want to enhance that we are here and we want to deepen the relationship between South Africa and Rwanda and may I add that we as South Africans have found that much as we are a larger economy much more developed economy on the African continent there is a lot that we are learning from what Rwanda is doing extremely well and I was very quick to tell President Kagame yesterday that what Rwanda has done on the ICT field of wrapping the whole country with a fiber optic cable and making internet free is something that we we congratulate them on we aspire to be and we we really want to learn lessons from them from turning Kigali into an innovation center so we're learning so we can only learn from friends and that is why the friendship between Rwanda and South Africa is is going to keep deepening there are a number of levels that it will obviously deepen through as it becomes a very very beneficial relationship all around Stephen Flutes from Eyewitness News asked the question why should investors invest in South Africa which at the regulatory level one has to go through hoops and loops before you you can make any headway and yet here you get things done very quickly now we have decided as a government that in as far as one of the barriers the constraints that we have had in relation to people investing in our country has been raised very prominently by business people that our regulatory environment is a constraint it it we've got too many barriers for people to do business the ease of doing business and opening businesses in South Africa is very complicated and convoluted now we've responded to that we've responded to that and minister had ever has addressed that on a number of occasions emanating from cabinet decisions we've decided we're going to set up a one-stop shop where would be investor just goes to one office one desk informs the official that this is what I intend this is what I want and from then on that unlocks a whole plethora of permits licenses and everything now in Rwanda they have perfected this they say that to open a business in Rwanda just takes three hours one businessman was congratulating president Kagame and saying president I congratulate you takes four hours and he's reported to have said who told you that because it doesn't take four hours it takes three hours so meaning that they've perfected it and our being here means that we can learn we can learn from what they have done how they have done it so that we can also be like Rwanda Rwanda is doing very well when it comes to that and they can learn from us from a number of other things that we are doing well Stephen says this happens because one department is at odds with another department and Stephen if that has been your understanding your perception it it will be something of the past because we streamlining the way we function the way our various government departments are going to be cooperating going forward another colleague raised the issue of yes part of the visa issues said we've addressed it in relation to Kenya why are we doing it on a piecemeal basis we are taking steps and determined steps to address this whole issue of enabling people to travel in and out of South Africa and we we've had to look at a number of considerations security enabling people to to travel in and the documentation side and that is being straightened out is being ironed out and we are finding solutions as we move on I think that addresses all the questions that were raised in this round of questions and my two colleagues minister hadebe and minister girlie may well want to lay emphasis on one or other issues maybe you should thank sir deputy president just want to add what the deputy president has said on on the issue of integration and one of one of the sessions on integration was on this infrastructure there is a good progress in Africa to interconnect if one takes one area of infrastructure of ports rail aviation there are a lot of strides that are being made as you may be aware that our president is the champion of what is called a presidential infrastructure championing initiative only north south corridor and this morning we gave a progress report of how far we are going in implementing that but before I emphasize on this point I need to indicate that South Africa being a champion we have started a process of fast-tracking many of these projects with the assistance of the Boston Consulting Group Peace BCG and the Development Bank of Southern Africa and the presidency in order to ensure that we bring many of these projects towards bankability in terms of the scale of these and north south corridor the value of of these projects amount to about 375 billion us dollars and in terms of prioritization is the inga grand inga project to bring power to Africa is the lisutu highlands water project is the bait bridge a one-stop border facility as well as the rail rolling stock which South Africa which the heads of state in their head in their meeting last year designated South Africa to be the manufacturing hub of rail rolling stock so I'm mentioning these to highlight one point that this vision this agenda 2063 is being implemented as we speak in order to bring about this integration we have mentioned the issue of Rwanda President Kagame has been leading as part of this north south corridor of making sure that we reduce the cost of telephony in this area of East Africa by a stroke of a pen the roaming charges have been eliminated and Rwanda Kenya Uganda and Tanzania is now part of this innovation hub as the deputy president is saying and they're now moving towards this project of a connect South Africa so I thought I needed just to emphasize that that what roads started at the 10th of the century even though in South Africa this is hashtag roads must fall but one thing positive is said was that a road from Cape to Cairo we are beginning to see it happening as we speak thank you I think the deputy president covered most of the things as he said we also learn because I think we first congratulated the region and another leadership of the whole region and Rwanda in particular in the ICT what they've done in the in Rwanda was to create one network and that's what has assisted them to be able to spread this network from Gikali to the majority of the people who are staying in the rural areas 70% of them we face similar challenges those are the things we are trying to do for their broadband network is one network is not many networks duplicated all over and that's the direction we are also trying to take in Africa in South Africa but also in terms of cost that's going to telecommunication which are being reduced one of the things that we're also looking at and South African companies are leading in this at the AU level the internet exchange points in most of the countries in Africa there are internet exchange points are still somewhere in Europe and so on that increase the cost of communication quite significantly and I think we're the first one to be awarded a national internet exchange point in Jordan is back our internet service providers and we're also giving a regional index in the internet exchange point and we're also going for the for the for the continental one so the South African companies are making quite strides to help reduce the cost across Africa so I thought I should just add those at the moment that in terms of the cost and infrastructure thank you deputy president the ministers can we take a second round Hillary yourself and then just not give a lot of data back we start with the women the after the problem there Mr. Deputy president oh okay yeah Mr. Deputy President yeah um you you talk about the one-stop investment shop and I wanted to ask you number one can you give us some timelines have you set targets in terms of when it will be implemented um and number two making the comparison with Rwanda I wanted to ask you is the political will there in South Africa to um to impose such a solution if you like um in Rwanda I know that there were lots of special there were obviously vested interests which had to be taken on in setting up the I think it's called the Rwanda Development Board which is the equivalent I think that which I imagine is what what we would be aspiring to there were several ministries and departments which had to be got rid of or incorporated into the board there were many attorneys and vested interests which had to be dealt with to effect the regulatory reforms and the institutional reforms that brought about this investor friendliness that we see in Rwanda now um given you know all the vested interests and departments that are there in South Africa is the political will there to to make this happen and uh when will it happen good morning Deputy President um looking at um what we discussed on the fourth industrial revolution and in order to make sure that South Africa um I'm saying looking at the when we talk about the fourth industrial revolution and one of the most important points that we need to draw on which is development in agriculture food security um we need to look I need to ask you how far would you go to ensure that um at what stage can South Africa irrigation systems be implemented in most of the farms in South Africa um energy um energy resources alternative energy resources to meet the high demand of energy because you have had a crisis in energy in South Africa and also possible alternatives to save water because the water crisis we had the previous year we need to start looking at certain possibilities on how to restore water in South Africa to meet the demand of agriculture and developing agriculture in South Africa but you didn't introduce yourself properly I'm nailing her to say and I actually don't want to talk about okay even Hilary didn't say where she comes from yes yes it's Hilary toffy from business day into Hemsburg can I sir can I just mention and Nelia is one of our top women innovators of Africa where she won a a challenge that we had at the forum to identify the best young women innovators and she's come all the way to join us here we're very pleased to welcome her to this event thank you Oliver good morning my name is Andy from power FM deputy president my question is about policy certainty one of the things that has worked in this part of the world that's been very clear for my week here in Rwanda has been his excellency Kagame is very clear direction about where the country is going and therefore having everybody kind of focused on that particular direction sometimes we hear investors perhaps also through the media criticize our government for policy uncertainty personally I feel sometimes it's unfair sometimes it's policy we don't like it's not necessarily uncertain but sometimes it is uncertainty sometimes you do get a sense that one side of government speaks and perhaps another side is not following and the specific example I want to raise is SOEs we've had the minister of finance and both and also his deputy make some statements in parliament about two particular SOEs and the response from both SOEs whether it was from the board or the chairmans of the board is not consistent to what those ministers have been saying and if I was an investor that's not policy I don't like that's clearly people are not singing from the same hymn sheet how what kind of conversations or steps are being taken by government to make sure that we don't expose ourselves to that unnecessary criticism that I would submit is very is founded and very fair that indeed sometimes or a lot of times we don't sing from the same hymn sheet good day it's Siobhan Kassidy from the African news agency I'd like to ask minister Tuile if Cape Town Cape Town um I want to ask minister Tuile if there's any particular action points that we can that he's going home with to try and replicate the ICT successes that we see here in Rwanda thank you um hello my name is Yenka Adigoke I'm the Africa editor for Quartz digital business platform um I just wanted to follow up this that so many of the questions here were about South Africa's visa policies and it's about the visa policy towards other Africans and I'm you know you talk to you mentioned security there Mr. Deputy President I'm curious when you look at a 25 percent unemployment rates in South Africa whether is it security that's the issue or is it more about economics of your own you know your own your own country worrying about the unemployment levels there my name is Sir Sia Konjobeni I'm a journalist with business report in Chohannespec my question is directed to the deputy president um my question uh deputy president relates to the comments you made yesterday um about the improvement that that you see you see government is seen in the coordination and implementation of projects as a result of the presidential infrastructure coordinating committee um I'd like you to perhaps give us some examples of this improvement perhaps for a moment take the put the IPP program aside but other than that if you can perhaps you know um allude to some of the projects that have seen improvement in the coordination and implementation thank you thank you my name is Moses from Kenya my also is my question is also about about visa when do you hope to eliminate the restrictions especially for Kenyans and and there I mean the visa costs and maybe ease of getting them just to follow up question to minister adab you mentioned the grand inga project we've been talking about that year in year out but at the end of the day nothing really gets done and we've got significant political risk in the drc as well given the fact that we've got elections in another couple of years sorry a couple of months as well so when you say that the grand inga when you hold up grand inga as an example of the sort of infrastructure project south africa is interested in and yet for years nothing has happened there we're not seeing any real concrete progress how valid an argument is that okay I think on that note we should end this round thanks deputy president thank you uh ronnie the first question my hillary joffy the the timeline issue in terms of setting up this one-stop shop uh I'll ask minister Jeff had a bit to respond to that as he is most well placed as the minister in the presidency dealing with evaluating and monitoring performance in government so uh he has all the answers when it comes to that uh he watches all of us like a hawk to see whether we we live up to what we have to do so he may well have the the time frame in in mind is there political will and you relate what happened here and also say that they they had a number of challenges that they had to navigate around and yes the political will is there and the political will emanates from the interaction that we've had with a number of role players in our country the business community the NGO community have raised this from time and time and time and they've said if we are in need to begin to what's having more meaningful economic growth we've got to address this issue of the regulatory log gem that is in front of businesses that that want to get ahead and get moving and indeed in doing so you've got to uh iron out a number of processes that also involve various departments and when people relate the story that you know before you can get going you've got to get a water license you've got to get an escom license you've got to get a municipal license you've got to get this then you realize that there are a number of role players whose buy-in firstly whose cooperation that you've got to get and the political will being there has had to mean that all this needs to be ironed out and the one-stop shop is going to precisely present that to all and sundry and we we calibrating this uh uh hillary to to a point of knowing what it means for somebody to set up a business in bloomfonte what hurdles do they have to go through what it means for somebody to get a license in prittoria the hurdles that they have to go through and then get the various government departments to begin to align their systems to deliver this end that has been decided on through political will and i i am convinced that we are going to deliver an outcome that business people are going to find much more user-friendly uh it may not come to doing everything in three hours as they do in rwanda but certainly it is going to mean that uh the regulatory framework in terms of the ease of doing business is going to be uh made a lot better so that people can have much ease of of doing business uh in in in south africa minister had never will answer the other bit uh nail who is masquerading like a journalist though she is uh she is a highly valued uh on the move type of person recognized by the world economic forum asks the question on irrigation systems energy as well as a saving water now the issue of water as you know is a huge challenge for us in south africa we are a water scarce country and we've got to conserve water uh every hour of the day as much as we possibly can but we've also realized that uh water is a huge constraint from getting our agriculture to move at a much faster pace and to deliver the outcomes that we want particularly when it comes to uh irrigation and more especially for new emerging black farmers they often get either the land and they are able to farm but then they don't have irrigation permits they don't have water permits and that matter is being looked at very closely by the department of water and sanitation with a view of making it a lot quicker and easier for people to get water permits and they they still because of being a water scarce country have to have a huge uh focus on the utilization of water in our country and that they are doing with a great deal of focus and the energy uh reticulation system in our country is getting better and better uh we we faced headwinds a few months ago uh almost a year ago we we faced headwinds those have now receded uh power stations uh charging our head to to maintain uh the the power stations their boilers and everything and the new power stations will soon be coming on stream and other great innovation great success has been our independent power production process where we've invited a number of independent power producers to put power into the grid so there we we're doing extremely well in as far as renewable energy is concerned so energy the energy challenge much as it was a problem last year and it's still a concern it is receding we will soon be having sufficient energy to power the South African economy once again going forward and it will also be a driver for our economic growth so not so much concern over that and obviously saving water has become a huge program in a campaign in our country and that is why the Department of Water and Sanitation is training so many young people to become plumbers to stop the leaks so the stop the leaks campaign is big and many young people are finding gainful employment in becoming plumbers and uh participating in this program of of stopping our water leakage under the ask the question of what uh policy certainty uh yes this has been a concern that has been raised and we are very alive to the concerns that have been raised in this regard and what we can say with the resolve that we have now also is part of the nine point plan that we adopted to make sure that from a policy point of view we we can have more certainty so that those business people that we deal with can be assured of the fact that when the government says this is the policy indeed it results in being the policy now the examples that you were giving where a state owned enterprise uh was doing a number of things that seems to contradict say for instance what uh their shareholder the minister was saying those are operational matters they are not really policy oriented matters they're operational matters and that has been a difference of whether you sign that contract or you don't sign that contract you go ahead with this one or that one so those are matters that are in hand they're being addressed they're being handled and as we go forward uh blips like those will be something of the past as we streamline the way our state owned enterprises function and the way they are also governed because it is also a governance issue which the interministerial committee that has been set up by the president on state owned enterprises is also dealing with we're dealing precisely with how these operational matters as the impact on governance needs to be addressed and needs to be resolved uh uh shalom shippal whatever custody or i don't know whether that was the name ask the question to the minister you'll answer that one uh one of the colleagues you can raise the question when it comes to visas opening up the visa uh policy what do we look at is it security at the expense of economics or is it economics at the expense of security we are a government we we don't gamble we don't play uh you know uh bridge or whatever game that people play we are a government and when we do things we've got to have a balance we've got to balance everything take into account the interests of those who want to travel to South Africa take into account the economic benefits that we can reap from people who come to do business in South Africa and travel in South Africa be they tourists or business visitors and also take into the interest the the security of the country this is the mandate that we've got and we cannot drop one at the expense of the other we've therefore got to do things in a balanced manner look at both and work on the basis of evidence what is the evidence that we are dealing with and then take decisions so and i'm sure uh colleague we will be taking very good decisions and for those who've been concerned about visas uh we are progressing this this process to make sure that there is ease of travel of those people who want to come to South Africa but at the same time the security issues needs to be looked at uh colleague from business report asked a question uh we yesterday we spoke about coordination that coordination uh particularly when it comes to infrastructure projects at the presidential infrastructure coordinating commission have yielded has yielded a great deal of benefits yes indeed it has what it has enabled us to do is to have greater focus on all our infrastructure projects from wall to wall you know countrywide we in one place on a dashboard we know the projects that are underway how they are funded how they should be funded who funds them is it the municipality is it the central government or is it uh the the department concerned so that uh is a huge benefit and we recommend that type of process and approach to all and sundry who would want to embark on huge projects whether they are huge medium or big ticket projects it's important that they should be coordination and other than as you said other than the independent power producer projects what else can we showcase we can showcase a lot of things a lot of things i can quote a whole number you will have to have time to sit here with us this whole afternoon we know for instance in the past when we have built dams when we have built dams and this has become possible through our knowledge through the coordinating uh process as secretariat that when we have built dams we focus more on building the dams getting water into the dams making sure that the walls of the dams are strong and the concrete is up to the right mpb eyes and so on but we've lost focus in some cases of reticulating that water to the people who should get the water and also of streamlining the processes of the water authority at the district municipality level and making sure that there are pipes that will be able to take the water from the dam right to the village right to the township so that we've been able to to to to have to get attention off because of the coordinating process that much as we may celebrate that we've built a big dam uh be it a dam in in popo be it a dam wherever in the country but the reticulation has been a problem so the coordination has assisted us to then focus attention if we build a hospital we've had great joy in building a big hospital but then the coordination between the department of health uh and in terms of getting doctors and nurses in that hospital has only appeared apparent to us through the coordination process and yet if we hadn't had this coordination process we would not at the right time been able to pay attention to things like that so coordination has also been assisting us in terms of pricing the pricing has been another issue that coordination has helped us with because pricing of projects can be very very different uh bag of cement can be priced differently for various projects so coordination assists us to have line of sight of things like that so I can go on and on uh uh a colleague from Kenya wants to know when will the restrictions that were announced be lifted and what are the costs going to be well uh I can't give you dates and uh and minutes and months and so forth but having been announced and when the minister of home affairs went to Kenya to announce this uh it meant that it's going to be done with great speed and the cost is not going to be the type of cost that should make South Africa suddenly a wealthy country it is a cost that will be meeting the the processing that needs to be done so that people can travel with ease uh and not uh uh expansively the grand Inga are leave to either minister uh Khadebe or minister Koyle to address thank you very much thanks uh deputy president on the one-stop shop uh question from Hilary Jofe I just want to amplify what the deputy president has said that there is a strong political will on the part of the South African government to move with speed with the effective implementation of this one-stop facility the strong political will is demonstrated by the fact that in this one-stop shop the committee is going to is personally chaired by the president but I need to give a background briefly of this one-stop shop so this is a joint initiative of government and business and labor under the theme of invest in SA so there's been a lot of preparatory work that has happened between government and business in particular of identifying all the obstacles that stand in the way of attracting investment into South Africa so all those have been tabulated this program this project started early in 2015 so we are comfortable now that we're at a process now of implementing this one-stop facility in terms of structure it's going to be uh at a technical level be housed at the department of trade and industry but the other government department that are going to be involved including business as well at an appropriate time the president is going to be announcing all the steps that are going to be taken in order to ensure that this is effectively implemented on the issue of the Grand Inga it is a valid uh concern that it has been a long time coming but there is good progress that has happened you'll recall that about 18 months ago the president on his state visit to the democratic republic of Congo there was a a agreement between DRC and South Africa on this Grand Inga and the minister of health sorry minister of energy has also piloted the ratification of the treaty into parliament as she announced last week during his budget vote on energy at the head of state summoned that took place in January this year the president gave a report on this north south corridor and also the issue of Grand Inga also came in they were comfortable the heads of state that have moved on this project to such an extent that this year there is going to be an international finance investment conference to promote many of these projects including this Grand Inga I highlighted in my ELA response that to fast track this program this project BCG DPSA and also going to be working as well with the African Development Bank Dr. Adesina who is extremely passionate about the issue of energy in Africa with those high fives that he highlighted when he was appointed as the head of the Development Bank lastly there's also going to be a roadshow this year by the president as the champion of this PICI together with other heads of state who are regional heads of this north south corridor so I want to reassure you that Grand Inga is going to be happening thank you only one stop shop I indicated deputy president that the president chairs that committee and his house at DTI and very shortly they're going to be outlining as soon as possible but everything has been done now okay thank you from my side the lessons learned what are we taking home just three points basically first one is a roaming like home arrangement which helps also to reduce cost as Sadeq minister is responsible for ICT we took this decision and we gave a roadmap of three years where the rates should be decreased to for people to roam like home and when regulators were implementing this they met some resistance from the operators as usual and what is clear and we'll take back to the regulators and so that they can pay this problem the operators were scared that their revenues was going to drop and that's why they were very much resisting but this case study here is actually shown as that revenues increase because the volumes increase so we have got something to show now and they say give us international study where this thing has been done successfully now even the operators are reaping more revenues because people are talking to relatives across these borders we've created for ourselves and the it's also part of that integration individual who are very small as markets but collectively we've got a market of medium South Africa has a big manufacturing base who are really looking as African countries to start manufacturing some of these gadgets here in Africa so that we can lower the cost and make them more affordable on the broadband second one is on the broadband network is that all segments matter sometimes we take this thing for granted the C cables matter that's what started the project here in Rwanda to connect these landlock countries to the C cable and the backhaul network is critical if you don't have the backhaul fiber you can have as many of these base stations but you won't solve your problem in terms of speeds so investing in the broadband fiber network is critical because that's where all these things download their their information for transmission but more importantly what has been the success here is a shared mobile broadband network whenever they were raising this thing as a possibility for us coming from a divided and vastly rural areas people have been saying where did it work check what is happening in Europe we say no we're not in Europe we're in Africa so now this is a success where a shared single broadband network mobile network is viable the operators when they were given this thing for the first time here they rejected it they say it never worked anyway it's a dangerous experiment they might as well pack and go the government continue to pace with them the president they even said will give you spectrum free but they were still not enticed until it was a issue of engaging engaging for partnership entice but eventually take a decision now they are all benefiting from that decision the telco's company don't have to spend money and billions investing in duplicating their infrastructure they are joining in that one who took the decision to lead the layout of the infrastructure so they are cost all of them their costs have come down so it's a very good example we're taking home that shared mobile networks also work the last one is that our challenges as we're facing as Africans are really our opportunities for innovation and actually bring relevant innovation which talks to ourselves I think South African companies but there are small companies which were showcasing their work they were doing in our interaction they they are very much welcome and appreciated by the African countries just give two or two or three examples that were making a lot of progress as African other African countries I want to talk everyone knows about mobile money in Kenya we started there in person but in South Africa there is a gold metro it's a small app or company develop this app to give you real-time location of the public transport systems and they have grown in a very short time to 200 200 000 users why because it was in 11 languages so language matters when you're developing these apps the other one which is also proudly home South African is cellnostics a technology to help you to take blood sample put in your gadget upload it to the to the cloud so that they can access the central analyze it send it back to you so that they can issue you with the diagnosis as even if you are in a most remote area they can tell you you've got diabetes you need this type of treatment you have got malaria so it is a useful technology for countries in Africa where the access is quite difficult and lastly you all know about saving room from South Africa again waterless toilet easy to assemble it doesn't require water that's the advantage of taking your challenges and think about it so that you can provide workable solution just separated the the liquids from solid the liquids can reuse it whether it's your any liquid but the solid it desecrated through heat so it's a simple solution developed by people who are facing the challenges of sanitation in in in in those rural areas I think the message we're taking home and most of the people are speaking that in Africa was we're moving from mines to using mines for economy to mines so that's the message you are taking home thank you thank you deputy president and ministers for taking time out of their business schedules to be with us colleagues you want to thank you very much for spending time with us this afternoon thank wef for the excellent arrangement as a bc for taking this briefing to Johannesburg and the whole of the african continent thank you very much see you one day